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This is yet another attempt to see why the text of my messages to the list are being deleted.

Anyone on this list connect to a John W. Kuhn? Family bible says born January 25, 1878, killed January 9, 1924. John was brother to my direct ancestor Anna Clairisse Kuhn Brewer. Mickey [email protected]

I am searching for information for a Mary Ellen Byerly who was married to Samuel R. Dillon. I have Mary Ellen's birth at about 1844 and he about 1837. Can anyone help? Shelley Pueblo, CO

The message is still missing. Maybe the list director can help you. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

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Frostburg University has a coal miner archives, they are very helpful Pat On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Sherry Shondelmyer < [email protected]> wrote: > I looking for where these men are buried also if anyone comes acoss any > articles on them I'd appreciate it > all of these men died in a coal mining accident > > Thank you > > Sherry > Clyde Tobin 9-12-1903 > Mike Baleek 9-30-1905 > Granville W. Morris 12-2-1905 > Charles Zerash 4-14-1906 > Frank Lubliski 2-23-1907 > Michael Miller 8-12 -1908 > Andy Norwalk 5-28 -1908 > Wilbur Wilhelm 6-25 -1908 > Dayton Ringler 11-13-1908 > Vedict Dudop 11-17-1909 > Metro Doinski 9-19-1910 > Steve Kai 8-2-1911 > George Pante 6-14-1911 > John Kubish 3-6-1912 > John Cuspin 3-8 -1912 > Ulabo Kasteloe 7-24-1912 > Mike Rush 11-30-1913 > Frank Sewensky 11- 4-1913 > Louis Cornesky 3-21-1914 > Lewis Rickie 3-21-1914 > James Hall 6-10-1918 > Adam Sopek 10-24-1939 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Shirley, Did you get all that material I sent to you okay? Ellen (ETHS)

Listers, If any one is researching the Wright Family from Brownsville Area, who were early tombstone carvers, we recently had a contribution of a photo of Thomas Wright standing in front of his shop. The photo can be found at http://www.usgwarchives.net/pa/1pa/tscarvers/wright-mts/wright-mts.htm Ellis Michaels Coordinator, Clearfield County PAGenWeb Project CoCoordinator, PAGenWeb Tombstone Project File Manager, Allegheny County PAGenWeb Archives File Manager, Clearfield County PAGenWeb Archives [email protected] "If you would not be forgotten, as soon as you are dead and rotten, either write things worth reading, or do things worth the writing" (Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)

Found Smithdale on the 1920 census. It is in Allegheny Co., Elizabeth Twp., Precinct 7 and images 1 to and including 11. Now I'm going to search for 1910 and 1900. Then I'll begin to extract the miners' information (and make guesses on some of the names) from all the censuses for the miners' museum. By doing all of them, the extractions will be more scholarly and I'll have a better chance of making out some of the names. It will take more than a few weeks, but will be a better presentation. What fun. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

In a message dated 8/22/2008 10:58:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Happily he eventually passed the State Mine Foreman's test (with the help of my grandmother who went to school until 8th grade) and quit the mines in 1935 because he didn't want his sons to be coal miners. That is a great success story. My grandpap eventually did the same thing. He studied electrictiy at home from a book and worked his way into being an electrician in a steel mill. He purchased a large home in West Newton on Water Street, still with a fine view of the Yough River and close access for me to daydream on its bank. It's a shame the memorial site doesn't have a place for memories of those of us who were not miners but shared their lives. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Hi, Shirley. I enjoyed reading your experiences visiting a coal mining patch. When I was growing up and for years after, it seemed like a normal childhood, and in many ways it was. Grandparents, parents, uncles and aunts, cousins, friends. We went to school and church and if anyone gave us a penny, we went to the post office to buy candy and if it was a whole nickel, we went to the company store and bought ice cream. We kids ran through town (there was a place we weren't allowed to go for some reason) and visited people. Some of the men routinely got drunk on Saturday night and beat their wives and children. Most did not. By law, grandpap said the mine owners had to leave 1 dollar in their pay check after deducting the company store bill. Even if it didn't pay off the bill. So he saved that dollar and placed it in the offering plate when a preacher came to town, usually once a month. That was in normal times. During strikes, everything changed. A man told me about 20 years ago that his father was a steel worker in Johnstown and they were hard men, but coal miners on strike scared the <stuff> out of all of them. They were wise. I do remember a peaceful KKK parade during one strike. Strike breakers had been imported to work the mines and the strikers were angry. But the men individually became different. Frustration, anger, fear, hunger, alcohol. And then add World War II and the young men disappearing to fight the enemy -- the Germans and Japanese bayonetted babies and we kids had to hide if they came to town--and the air raid siren sent us hiding under our desks, or at home, pulling the black out curtains closed. I learned so many years later of the fear the imported miners (scabs) felt. They were so desperate for work they faced the wrath of coal miners with weapons. And then had to face the fear of a KKK parade. Oh my. Memories, memories. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA My father died at age 95 with a mild case of black lung. He said his grandfather did, as well. His grandfather was so ill he couldn't even talk. Dad had cancer and when we took him to an oncologist, the doctor said his father was a coal miner in West Virginia and he would do everything he could. But at 95, dad was tired. My uncle died of black lung a few years ago. He was tired, too. Thank you for dedicating your life's work to miners. I never noticed the odor of the slag heap, just the smoke and threat of falling through if we were foolish kids. But the blackness in the air, oh my. We couldn't blow our noses without black coal dust filling our hankies...no paper hankies at that time...and we would rush, children and adults, to take the laundry off the line when we knew a train was due. When my lung began collapsing for no apparent reason in the 1970's, the doctor said it was possible black lung was the root problem...not just the miners were exposed and we children had more tender, more susceptible lungs. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Your story is very similar to what happened to my grandfather - only it happened here in PA around the Everson/Scottdale are. My ggrandfather was a coal miner around the Everson/Scottdale area during the 1880s. My grandfather was born in 1882. My ggrandfather became a union organizer in the area and was eventually blackballed by the mine owners. That meant they had to move out of the company housing and spent the winter of 1890 in a half-tent - father, mother and 7 children. As a result my grandfather quit school at the age of 8 (3rd grade) and went into the mines as a trapper boy making seventy-five cents a week. Happily he eventually passed the State Mine Foreman's test (with the help of my grandmother who went to school until 8th grade) and quit the mines in 1935 because he didn't want his sons to be coal miners. Pat -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 216 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Friendship, Love, & Truth Mark */ /**/Joan of Arcadia/* */The Ripples Continue! <http://mshaffer.livejournal.com/767.html> /* [email protected] wrote: > I was at a cemetery this week and found a couple of flag holders like > this one http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~paerie/cemeteries/pics/FLT-IOOF-424.jpg > What does F L T stand for? > Linda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The information on the coal mines and the cemeteries has been very interesting. I am a graduate of Washington Hospital School of Nursing, Washington, PA. I grew up in the flat lands of Erie County, PA. My uncle took me on a tour one Sunday to show me "a Coal Mining Patch." I was amazed. It was like another world. He was a Railroad Engineer. I think he wanted me to understand the world of the people I would be meeting in my nursing program at the School of Nursing. My first note of difference, besides the terrain, was this horrible odor that never went away. I kept complaining and my class mates could not figure out what I was complaining about. It was always worse on a rainy day. It turned out to be the huge slag heap outside of town. They had all grown up with one nearby. It was not an unusual smell to them! Many of my fellow classmates were from the Coal mining communities. We would get word there had been a mining accident. Every one became agitated, inquiring what mine? The hospital had a nine bed nursing unit that was only for injured or sick miners. One of my classmate's father was very active in the Coal Miners' Union. I wonder if any of you have thought of consulting the United Mine Workers Union in regards to the various mines? Seeing a victim of a mining accident is a memory burned in your brain. I remember the grime, then you realized it was a human being! I immediately concluded it was a job no man should have to do. In this day of equal opportunity, no woman should have to do it either. I cared for many victims of Black Lung. One gentleman went in to the mines when he was 9 yrs. old. He told me that men got paid by the car load of coal. They took their children in to the mines with them. The father, (in this case, uncle) would use a pick ax and loosen the coal, then the children picked up the pieces and threw the coal in to the car. The more "pickers," the faster a car was loaded. They worked 12 hour shifts. The tragedy of Black Lung is that once the operation became automated with equipment, the miners got Black Lung at a speeded up rate. It was knowing this gentleman that motivated me to become an Occupational Health Nurse, and to go on to get a degree in Industrial Hygiene Technology. The other item of interest in the mining article was the founding dates of the mines. It never occurred to me they only came in to being in the late 1800's. Shirley