In a message dated 3/17/04 8:53:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, yannster@ptd.net writes: > he never worked under Social Security Lots of railroad folks in the area, which means they may have had a number, (SS began i8n the mid 30s approx) but, under the BRT (Brotherhood of Railraod Trainmen) didn't draw from SS, but from RR pension. Often, their death dates are not reported. No burial or mo benefits, no reason to tell SS My dad was with the D & H, he's been dead 10 yrs, my mthr died young, her pension would've been under RR---neither of their numbers pop up. BUT--Ihave both their cards. and several of the Adams and Kellams et al also were RR men---it's been the sameproblem--or so familythought--until they learned, apply for their forms---and see--sure enuf---several came back. Sheila // Firehair