Actually, Lincoln was shot in 1865. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > Ann > My mother, Zena, is still living and she says that her father was born the > year Lincoln was shot. She will be 93 this wednesday and is the last of of > his children. She is old but her mind is still good. If you look on the > 1920 cenasus you will see an 8year old daughter named Ruth. They had no > daughter named Ruth but if you trace back the years that would be my > mother. > > ---------- > > From: Ann O'Hara <yannster@ptd.net> > > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > Date: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:13 PM > > > > He may well have forgotten the year he was born (he wouldn't be the > first), > > but he does say on the 1900 census that he was born in October 1862. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> > > To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > > > > > Ann > > > Thank you for your response to my inquary. First let me say that my > grand > > > father was always known as Elmer E very few people knew he was actually > > > Elsworth Elmer. > > > Next, I have him born October 11, 1863in Wayne county. His father was > > > Francis Lightfoot Lee born in 1836 also in Wayne county and I beleive > the > > > same farm that was sold when ELMER moved into town. Francis was married > to > > > Elizabeth Woolheater of Delaware county NY. As to the idea that he was > > > actually from NY,I had not considered that but will look into it. > Thanks > > > again. > > > > > > ---------- > > > > From: Ann O'Hara <yannster@ptd.net> > > > > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > > Date: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:44 PM > > > > > > > > The reason you didn't find him before 1920 is that the farm was > located > > > in > > > > Preston Township, not Starrucca Borough. If you do a search for > > > Starrucca > > > > on Mapquest, you'll see that the borough is roughly rectangular in > > shape. > > > > Although Shehawken does not show on the map, you'll see Tallmansville > to > > > the > > > > southeast of Starrucca. Shehawken is north of Tallmansville and > almost > > > > directly east of Starrucca. The distance betrween them is only about > > > five > > > > miles, and the road is mostly in Preston. Based on their neighbors on > > the > > > > census, I'd place them in Preston Township closer to Starrucca than > > > > Shehawken. > > > > > > > > As for the census, working backward from 1920 - > > > > > > > > 1920. Elmer Lee and family in Starrucca Borough. Reel T625, Page > 263. > > > > > > > > 1910. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He and Martha have > > been > > > > married 23 years. Reel T624-1426, page 242. > > > > > > > > 1900. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He was born October > > > 1862 > > > > in NEW YORK. In other years he says he was born in Pennsylvania. > > > However, > > > > I could find no Elmer Lees in Wayne County in 1880 and 1870. > > > > Reel T623-1495, page 203. > > > > > > > > 1880. There were two Elmer Lees of the right age in New York in > areas > > > not > > > > too far from Wayne County: > > > > > > > > Elmer Lee, son of Wallace and Percilla Lee in Hurley, Ulster County, > NY. > > > > Reel T-9-939, page 111B. > > > > > > > > Elmer Lee, son of Frank Lee, in Newark Valley, Tioga County, NY. > Reel > > > > T9-937, page 138B. > > > > > > > > 1870. Elmore Lee, son of Wallace & Percilla, in Hurley. Reel > > M593-1105, > > > > page 116. > > > > > > > > You don't tell us the names of Elmer's parents, so the New York > Elmers > > > are > > > > highly speculative. I didn't find any Lees in the Ancestry.com index > > for > > > > Starrucca (which was then called Wayne) Borough in 1850 or 1860. > > > > > > > > Ann > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> > > > > To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:53 PM > > > > Subject: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to find out as much as I can about the Lee > family > > of > > > > > Starrucca. Can anyone out there tell me where the boundry lines of > > > > > Starrucca are? My grand father Elmer Lee owned a farm outside > > Starrucca > > > on > > > > > the road to Shehaukin. > > > > > ( spelled wrong ). My mother tells me they sold the farm and moved > to > > > town > > > > > when she was 14. However, the Starrucca Borough census of 1920is > the > > > first > > > > > I can find him and my other relitaves listed. This would have made > my > > > > > mother 8 years old . What would be the area they lived in when they > > > were > > > > on > > > > > the farm? My gg grand father and g grand father are listed in the > 1860 > > > > > Wayne borough - Starrucca census but there is no sign of Elmer > until > > > 1920. > > > > > He was born in 1863 so by this time, 1920, he would have been 57. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > > > Genealogical Research Society Of Northeastern Pennsylvania > > > > > GRSNP@verizon.net www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp 210 Grant Street > P.O. > > > Box > > > > 1 Olyphant PA 18447 [570]383-7661 Fax[570]383-7466 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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