In a message dated 7/19/2004 9:25:16 AM Central Daylight Time, yannster@ptd.net writes: Incidentally, Carol, I also found in 1840 a "Carmi" Gaylord, 70-80, living with two younger males. A grandfather? I spotted that also, have no idea who he is, but will bet the farm he is related either direct or as an uncle... But that far enough back I can't pick it family connections on census work and I am finding NOTHING online about Carmie Galord of any generation. That will have to be left up to a serious Gaylord searcher, or someone with way too much time on their hands to check deed records and such... Iris