Trying to find any family for Isaac TURNER b 1788 Paris, FR came to US 1792 (re a news article by his daughter in 1937) d 1867 Wayne Co., PA. Isaac served in the War of 1812, enlisting in Westchester Co., NY. I have found an Isaac Turner in the census there, but from other info do not believe it is the same person. Cannot find Isaac's parentage or siblings. The family name was TOURNEUR - var. sp. Family lore says Isaac came from 'the middle West' and stopped in South Canaan and worked on Nancy Kelley's farm since she lived there alone. They married and had 8 children - Isaac was 34 years older than Nancy. Children were: Mathilda John Milton m Mahitable (Mattie) DEPEW Franklyn Varney m Carolena Augusta MEYER Mary Angeline; Rosilla Correll m ? HAUSER Elma Martha (twin) m Saul BIRD 2 other children died young 1850 census Salem Twp., Wayne Co. PA. shows John TURNER living next door to Isaac. John was born c 1810 NJ and among others, had a son named Milton. He also has 2 sets of twins. John must be a son of Isaac from a previous marriage. With all the children in this extended family, is anyone out there missing a grandpa??? Any help greatly appreciated - Diane * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/

Hi Todd, In my database I have a living female Minckler married to a William Kenneth Case, who is my 6C2R . I also have several Mary Woods. Could you send me more specific information on these people if you have it? Thanks, Carol Potter Meadows

I n PA,All death and marriage records from 1893 to 1905 are at the County seat. After that they are at New Castle. All marriage records from 1885 to date are at the county seat. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Lewis" <jndlewis@worldnet.att.net> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Death Records > Dear Teddy, > > So nice to hear from you! Thank you for sending the reference. Though > the person I was thinking about when I wrote the original query won't > qualify, I do have one elusive ancestor that might be in those records. > > Donna > > Theodora Cole wrote: > > Donna, I hoped someone with better information would answer your query about death > > records. I've searched the WPA inventory of court house records microfilmed by > > the LDS Library, and all I found was records for 1903-1905 (p.109, entry #260, > > Vital Statistics, Registration of Births and Deaths) Presumably subsequent records > > were sent to the State Bureau of Vital Statistics. > > > > Film title is "Inventory of the county archives of Pennsylvania, #64, Wayne County > > (Honesdale)," Film #1035741 Item 12. > > > > I'd be pleased if someone knowledgeable about Wayne County death records could > > fill me in on where records prior to 1903 can be found. > > > > Teddy > > > > Donna Lewis wrote: > > > > > >>Annie, > >> > >>Your site refers to "burial records" in the Wayne County Courthouse. Can > >>-- or anyone -- tell me how complete such records are, and what years > >>they cover. > >> > >>Thanks. > >> > >>Donna Lewis > >> > >>Palmer's wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I created a web site from the information PP&L sent me when I requested > >>>information. It was known as the Purdytown Cemetery and the web site is > >>>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mjwanc/purdy.htm > >>> > >>>Annie Palmer > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Diane [mailto:pandreasen@stny.rr.com] > >>>Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:41 PM > >>>To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > >>>Subject: [PAWAYNE] LAKE WALLENPAUPACK CEME. > >>> > >>> > >>>Does anyone know if the cemetery that was moved when Lake Wallenpaupack was > >>>made, had the records (in their entirety) placed anywhere? Is the Paupack > >>>Ceme. site on-line that cemetery and, if so, is it complete? > >>> > >>>Thanks - > >>> > >>> * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * > >>>* > >>>http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > >>>If you change your email address; be sure to SUBSCRIBE your NEW address and > >>>UNSUBSCRIBE your OLD address > >>> > >>>============================== > >>>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >>>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > >>> Wayne County Historical Society website: > >>> www.waynehistorypa.org > >>> > >>>============================== > >>>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >>>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >>> > >>> > >> > >>==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > >> Wayne County Historical Society website: > >> www.waynehistorypa.org > >> > >>============================== > >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > If you change your email address; be sure to SUBSCRIBE your NEW address and UNSUBSCRIBE your OLD address > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Wayne County Historical Society website: > www.waynehistorypa.org > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.637 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 3/20/2004

Dear Teddy, So nice to hear from you! Thank you for sending the reference. Though the person I was thinking about when I wrote the original query won't qualify, I do have one elusive ancestor that might be in those records. Donna Theodora Cole wrote: > Donna, I hoped someone with better information would answer your query about death > records. I've searched the WPA inventory of court house records microfilmed by > the LDS Library, and all I found was records for 1903-1905 (p.109, entry #260, > Vital Statistics, Registration of Births and Deaths) Presumably subsequent records > were sent to the State Bureau of Vital Statistics. > > Film title is "Inventory of the county archives of Pennsylvania, #64, Wayne County > (Honesdale)," Film #1035741 Item 12. > > I'd be pleased if someone knowledgeable about Wayne County death records could > fill me in on where records prior to 1903 can be found. > > Teddy > > Donna Lewis wrote: > > >>Annie, >> >>Your site refers to "burial records" in the Wayne County Courthouse. Can >>-- or anyone -- tell me how complete such records are, and what years >>they cover. >> >>Thanks. >> >>Donna Lewis >> >>Palmer's wrote: >> >> >>>I created a web site from the information PP&L sent me when I requested >>>information. It was known as the Purdytown Cemetery and the web site is >>>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mjwanc/purdy.htm >>> >>>Annie Palmer >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Diane [mailto:pandreasen@stny.rr.com] >>>Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:41 PM >>>To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: [PAWAYNE] LAKE WALLENPAUPACK CEME. >>> >>> >>>Does anyone know if the cemetery that was moved when Lake Wallenpaupack was >>>made, had the records (in their entirety) placed anywhere? Is the Paupack >>>Ceme. site on-line that cemetery and, if so, is it complete? >>> >>>Thanks - >>> >>> * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * >>>* >>>http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== >>>If you change your email address; be sure to SUBSCRIBE your NEW address and >>>UNSUBSCRIBE your OLD address >>> >>>============================== >>>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >>> >>>==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== >>> Wayne County Historical Society website: >>> www.waynehistorypa.org >>> >>>============================== >>>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >> >>==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== >> Wayne County Historical Society website: >> www.waynehistorypa.org >> >>============================== >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > If you change your email address; be sure to SUBSCRIBE your NEW address and UNSUBSCRIBE your OLD address > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 3/22/04 9:50:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, Firehair3@aol.com writes: > When one of them (Roscoe?) seems to be banging on our heads like > this--there is a story/ reason/ lesson--- > > S/F

In a message dated 3/22/04 10:08:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, Wendelllee@aol.com writes: > reason that the Board exists. I was > only making a philosophical (?) point about the way Roscoe was apparently > peddled around as a kid. > > yes, and now think, everyone is interested and feeling sad, etc--- Which for one who believes as I do, is finally validating him, understanding? He knew who would listen, and care. Pushed our buttons--or is it keys? Sheila // Firehair In cold and windy, but sunny, eastern NC Hazelnut coffee, coming up!

Is it just me, or does it seem that there are more people interested in Roscoe Tyler in 2003 than there were in 1904? Lee Woodmansee Just to make sure I was not misunderstood, I have no problems with the recent exchange, I think it is an example of the reason that the Board exists. I was only making a philosophical (?) point about the way Roscoe was apparently peddled around as a kid. Lee Woodmansee

In a message dated 3/22/04 9:10:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, Wendelllee@aol.com writes: > > Is it just me, or does it seem that there are more people interested in > Roscoe Tyler in 2003 than there were in 1904? > > Don't you love it? Folks think they are just there, then gone, no mark on history--and here we are, all agog and trying to sort out, figure out. As Indian People, we believe the Ancestors "talk" and guide--you just have to listen. When one of them seems to be banging on our heads like this--there is a story/reason/lesson--- so, go with it, folks!!! (( Gerald Parsons, FASG // renowned genealogist, former head, Syracuse Pub Lib Genie and Hist Dept, recently passed, used to introduce me/tell folks "she talks to the dead, you know." )) <G> Sheila / Firehair

Is it just me, or does it seem that there are more people interested in Roscoe Tyler in 2003 than there were in 1904? Lee Woodmansee

Teddy, The records from 1893 through 1905 are on microfilm at the Wayne County Historical Society. They may also be at the courthouse. After that, from 1906, they are at the Pennsylvania Bureau of Vital Records at New Castle. Unfortunately, not all deaths were reported in those early years, but the ones that were are on the microfilm. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodora Cole" <teddy@gorge.net> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Death Records > Donna, I hoped someone with better information would answer your query about death > records. I've searched the WPA inventory of court house records microfilmed by > the LDS Library, and all I found was records for 1903-1905 (p.109, entry #260, > Vital Statistics, Registration of Births and Deaths) Presumably subsequent records > were sent to the State Bureau of Vital Statistics. > > Film title is "Inventory of the county archives of Pennsylvania, #64, Wayne County > (Honesdale)," Film #1035741 Item 12. > > I'd be pleased if someone knowledgeable about Wayne County death records could > fill me in on where records prior to 1903 can be found. > > Teddy > > Donna Lewis wrote: > > > Annie, > > > > Your site refers to "burial records" in the Wayne County Courthouse. Can > > -- or anyone -- tell me how complete such records are, and what years > > they cover. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Donna Lewis > > > > Palmer's wrote: > > > > > I created a web site from the information PP&L sent me when I requested > > > information. It was known as the Purdytown Cemetery and the web site is > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mjwanc/purdy.htm > > > > > > Annie Palmer > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Diane [mailto:pandreasen@stny.rr.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:41 PM > > > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [PAWAYNE] LAKE WALLENPAUPACK CEME. > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if the cemetery that was moved when Lake Wallenpaupack was > > > made, had the records (in their entirety) placed anywhere? Is the Paupack > > > Ceme. site on-line that cemetery and, if so, is it complete? > > > > > > Thanks - > > > > > > * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * > > > * > > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > If you change your email address; be sure to SUBSCRIBE your NEW address and > > > UNSUBSCRIBE your OLD address > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > Wayne County Historical Society website: > > > www.waynehistorypa.org > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Wayne County Historical Society website: > > www.waynehistorypa.org > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > If you change your email address; be sure to SUBSCRIBE your NEW address and UNSUBSCRIBE your OLD address > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Probably Bramans. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Case" <ToddCase@rocketmail.com> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: [PAWAYNE] Robert Tyler/Minckler connection > I wonder if Robert Tyler is living with the James Henry Minckler, son > of Abraham Minckler and Claracilla Ferguson, b.4/14/1863 m. Mary Jane > Wood. I have at least two children for them: > James Leroy and George. > > I believe they lived in the Sullivan Co., NY area. James Leroy was > born at "Barmans, PA" wherever that is/was. > > > ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 > > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 06:59:12 EST > > From: CMMEADOWS2@aol.com > > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] ROSCOE TYLER > > > > Hi Ann, > > > > And yet another Tyler child boarded out. This one Robert Tyler, born > > Sep > > 1880. He is boarding with James H. and Mary J. Minckler and their 6 > > children. > > > > Carol > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Wayne County, Pennsylvania web page at > www.rootsweb.com/~pawayne > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Sheila, I had tried all those things too...to no avail. I even tried it with the letter C instead of a first name. She certainly avoided the Census Taker well. I even tried all the Shelden/Sheldon families in 1870 that had a father born in England, which is what was indicated in the 1910 census as her father's birthplace. Absolutely nothing!! I hate loose ends too. Carol

In a message dated 3/21/04 5:43:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, CMMEADOWS2@aol.com writes: > > Thanks for the information on Jefferson Tyler and ruling him out as the > possible Dad...legally of these children. > No problem---eliminating and tying down the folks leaves fewer to look for. we say---with fingers crossed. I do find it odd, No Clara, Clarisse b. c1862-1864, or 2 yrs etiehr side, in 1870 NY or PA. There was a match, of a 17 yr old, in 1880, out in Wisconsin, and guess what, she was b. in NY. I tried a scan for Clara Sheldon, Clara Tyler, Clara Cole, --- Also Clarissa, or Clarice---in 1880 on all the subscription lists, and my cousin has a couple I don't---she is no where to be found. ditto 1900. NY, PA, NJ, or the US of A. Aspointed out, she should have shown 1880, pregnant (which wouldn't be mentioned) with her hsuband, bywhatever name. I did a Tyler name only for Wayne Co. PA 1880------saw no likely looking candidates, yet the kids say they were born in Bramen. Tried the same for Delaware Co., NY--those Tylers, and Coles, did like to flip flop----------- no could be-s there, either. She was somewhere getting pregnant a lot. slight grin. Sheila / Firehair (I hate loose ends, orphan folks!!!)

Sorry about that. I wrote to the Town Clerk. the records may have been moved since the??

Hi Sheila, Thanks for the information on Jefferson Tyler and ruling him out as the possible Dad...legally of these children. Carol

I never did meet Ida Mae, but she certainly supplied me with more than I thought I'd ever find, and that was just the beginning. * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ -----Original Message----- From: Firehair3@aol.com [mailto:Firehair3@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:17 PM To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAWAYNE] LAKE WALLENPAUPACK CEME. In a message dated 3/21/04 3:43:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, pandreasen@stny.rr.com writes: > Ida Mae Roe Lordy---was thinking aobut her this morning---way back in the 70s when I was still oblivious and innocent--just write--ask it will all turn up----------(do I hear hysterical laughing?) she did pages of research for me--alltyped and nice--- course, she knew my elderly cousins, all her life, some of the families are still there--in Rileyville, Kellams, Beach Lake, Honesdale--etc . S/F ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical Society 810 Main Street P.O. box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 (570)253-3240 wchspa@ptd.net ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Seeking any info regarding Clarence STEVENSON who married Clyde/Clyda LESTER

In a message dated 3/21/04 3:43:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, pandreasen@stny.rr.com writes: > Ida Mae Roe Lordy---was thinking aobut her this morning---way back in the 70s when I was still oblivious and innocent--just write--ask it will all turn up----------(do I hear hysterical laughing?) she did pages of research for me--alltyped and nice--- course, she knew my elderly cousins, all her life, some of the families are still there--in Rileyville, Kellams, Beach Lake, Honesdale--etc . S/F

In a message dated 3/21/04 3:41:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, teddy@gorge.net writes: > I'd be pleased if someone knowledgeable about Wayne Co death records could > fill me in on where records prior to 1903 can be found. I rec'd info/certificates on a few deaths in the 1890s from Wayne Co. --fairly informative/complete they were, also. S/F

In a message dated 3/21/04 11:56:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, CMMEADOWS2@aol.com writes: > Hi Ann, > > I was wondering where Clara was too. Maybe she was married to yet another > man or I thought of the possibility that she was confined somewhere...jail > or > asylum. If these are all her children that we have found, she sure didn't > have > time for much else. Oddly Clara Sheldon, Clarisse Sheldon, does not show up anywhere in 1870 she states she was b. in NY--no one there, not even close to the supposed yr. of her birth. Tried PA--and no families again statewide with someone in the right brackets. the ONLY Jefferson/ Jeff., J.C. C. Tyler to show in the eastern sector of the US is the one b. 4 Oct 1841 Dimmock, Susq. PA, who md. Louisa Carlin, she b. c 1845, and her family also from Susq. Co., PA Jefferson C. Tyler was the son of Sylvanus Tyler, his wife, Mary Quick. Jefferson and Louisa had 4 children, all of whom lived. #1. Morton S., the eldest son, b. c 1864 md Leona ?, they had, in 1910, Clarence, Ray O., Royal, Harry A., and Ralph. #2. Nancy, at home in 1880, gone by 1900--one can assume married. #3. Cyrus B. b. 1869. He md. Alpha M., moved to Carbon Co., they were md 6 yrs in 1910, had -0- children. #4. Alphretta was at home in 1910, still single. This eliminates this Jefferson Tyler, and his sons from the probable Dads unless he has a double life we know nothing about. <G> happens. Clara's 2nd husband, Frank Cole is in my data base as son of Peter and Rebecca of Honesdale. It seems he was married, lost wife and child(children?) in the 1890s. In 1930, Wilbur Tyler, age 42, is boarding with Will Branning in Wayne Co. 1930, Verne L., (33), (b. September 26, 1896- Bramen- died Jan 1981Equinunk, SSDI rec) md. Frances, (24) lived buckingham Twnp., Wayne Co., with daughter Beverly 1 yr old He was listed right after the Matthew Billings Family, whose f-in-law, Wallace Cole living with them, houses before that, cple of Lord families---all of whom are tied to my varying lines, by blood, marriage, or both. These families all criss cross, tie in,out and around---s solving one solves another usually. Sheila // Firehair