Just in case anyone was planning a last-minute decision, Genealogy Fair 2004 has been cancelled. Just not enough interest this year. Ann

I'm confident of Sutliff in Wayne County at least - have lots of census, obituaries, cemetery inscriptions, etc., all spelled that way. Killam/Kellam is, of course, another story. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Firehair3@aol.com> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:43 AM Subject: [PAWAYNE] Brigham/ etc > In a message dated 7/7/04 8:28:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > SeeksFamily@aol.com writes: > > > > I don't have the exact date though. > > > > md 29 Aug 1824 according to Brigham family records. > > Have, in the other Brigham stuff, Sutliffe/stucliffe spellings. > > as often happens. > > We won't even go INTO > > Kellam / Killam / Kilham / Kellum / Callum/ Collum ad infinitum. > > > I have Hiram dying in IL, also. > > Sheila/Firehair > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe to PAWAYNE mailing list (list mode) Address to: PAWAYNE-L-request@rootsweb.com > type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message; nothing more. > For Digest mode: address to PAWAYNE-D-request@rootsweb.com > type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message; nothing more. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Carol, Thank you. These ARTHURS also show up in OregonTwp in 1860, then move to Dyberry in 1870 where my George D. ARTHUR shows up, and then Bethany in 1880. Parents James died 2 April 1887 and Ann HOSKIN died 19 October 1887. It looks like they had 11 children: Elizabeth, Mary, (both born in England),Susannah TOMS, James, Ruth, John H., Josephine, William H, ?Truelove, Lille THOMAS, George D., Leona BODIE, and Daniel I. I have found several cousins from these lines. Now looking for the link to Cornwall, England. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: <CMMEADOWS2@aol.com> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] ARTHUR > Hello, > > I have a James Arthur family that appeared in the 1850 Census for Oregon > Township, Wayne County, PA. > > Here is the link to the Census transcription: > > http://www.dsdata.com.au/cgi-bin/1850house.cgi?wayne0ore64 > > Carol Potter Meadows > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Wayne County, Pennsylvania web page at > www.rootsweb.com/~pawayne > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

That sounds right; their first child was born in 1825. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SeeksFamily@aol.com> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Brigham > In a message dated 7/6/2004 12:40:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Firehair3@aol.com writes: > > > Hirma md. Mary SUTCLIFF b: 9 AUG 1805 in CT -- 29 AUG 1824 in Damascus, > > Wayne, PA > > > > I have them marrying in 1824. I don't have the exact date though. > > by the 1870 census I have them both in Stephenson Co., Illinois > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to check out connecting counties when digging for those > roots. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

In a message dated 7/7/04 8:28:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SeeksFamily@aol.com writes: > I don't have the exact date though. > md 29 Aug 1824 according to Brigham family records. Have, in the other Brigham stuff, Sutliffe/stucliffe spellings. as often happens. We won't even go INTO Kellam / Killam / Kilham / Kellum / Callum/ Collum ad infinitum. I have Hiram dying in IL, also. Sheila/Firehair

In a message dated 7/6/2004 12:40:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Firehair3@aol.com writes: > Hirma md. Mary SUTCLIFF b: 9 AUG 1805 in CT -- 29 AUG 1824 in Damascus, > Wayne, PA > I have them marrying in 1824. I don't have the exact date though. by the 1870 census I have them both in Stephenson Co., Illinois

Not mine either, except that some Markses and Keeslers married Kellams, Brighams and Sutliffs. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Firehair3@aol.com> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:53 PM Subject: [PAWAYNE] Brigham// note > In a message dated 7/6/04 2:45:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, yannster@ptd.net > writes: > > > > Sorry to be nitpicky, but like to clear up errors when I can. > > Not at all. > > Except for the Kellam tie, it's not a line of mine, or my own family--but, > if it's to be included, it needs to be as accurate as one can do it, without > tearing my hair out of my scalp. > > . the Brigham desc. sent me the info on that family---I'll mail him the > corrections. > > Eleanor was Eleanor Elizabeth Kellam. > > She was not, to anyone's knowledge, md to anyone but him. > > thanks. > > sheila / firehair ---105 heat index today--- feeling like a puddle here. > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > If the county you are looking in borders state lines make sure to check the other state for records also. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

In a message dated 7/6/04 2:45:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, yannster@ptd.net writes: > Sorry to be nitpicky, but like to clear up errors when I can. Not at all. Except for the Kellam tie, it's not a line of mine, or my own family--but, if it's to be included, it needs to be as accurate as one can do it, without tearing my hair out of my scalp. . the Brigham desc. sent me the info on that family---I'll mail him the corrections. Eleanor was Eleanor Elizabeth Kellam. She was not, to anyone's knowledge, md to anyone but him. thanks. sheila / firehair ---105 heat index today--- feeling like a puddle here.

Hello, I have a James Arthur family that appeared in the 1850 Census for Oregon Township, Wayne County, PA. Here is the link to the Census transcription: http://www.dsdata.com.au/cgi-bin/1850house.cgi?wayne0ore64 Carol Potter Meadows

A few somewhat minor but significant corrections. 1. On the actual 1880 census, the relationship to head of household column is left blank for Elinor Brigham and says "Adopted" for Truman. Since Elinor was Elinor Kellam before her marriage, was Truman her son by a first marriage? Apparently not, since she is already married to George Brigham in 1870, before Truman was born. I can't find her in 1850 before her marriage. 2. Hiram Brigham's age is illegible (at least to me) except for the "1" in 1880, but in 1850, he is 20, in 1860 he is 40 and in 1870 he also says he is 40. He only ages one year in 30. Nice. It's clear that he was 30 in 1860 and 50 in 1880. However, just to confuse things, there is a George Brigham, age 30, living with Hiram and Mary Brigham in 1860 even though George is also living with Eliza and their children. 3. George's wife in 1860 is Eliza. Could Eliza and Elinor be one and the same? Eleanor E. is 42 in 1870; Eliza is 32 in 1860; and of course Elinor is 52 in 1880. 4. Florida, NY is in Orange County and was in 1799. 5. Mary Sutliff, not Sutcliff. 6. Mary Sutliff Brigham could not have died in 1824 and been the mother of ten children born after 1825. 6. In 1850 Hiram and Mary's children are: Joseph, 25 Mary, 23 George S., 20 Amy, 17 Caroline, 9 Truman, 7 Harriot, 5 Hiram, 4/12 It's possible that there was an earlier Hiram born in 1837 who died, and Webster probably died or had moved out (he was probably named Webster Sutliff Brigham for Mary's brother). There is no Luther, however. The only time the name appears is on 1860, a notoriously unreliable census in Wayne County, especially in Damascus Twp. By 1870 the 10-year-old is again Hiram. Sorry to be nitpicky, but like to clear up errors when I can. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <Firehair3@aol.com> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: [PAWAYNE] Brigham > Cleaining up// attempting to update, next Kellam pub. here is a "bit" FYI > > George md. Eleanor Elizabeth Kellam > > Household Record 1880 United States Census > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's > Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > > George BRIGHAM Self M Male W 41 PA Farmer NY NY > Elenor BRIGHAM Other M Female W 52 PA House Keeper PA PA > Truman KELLAM Other S Male W 9 PA PA PA > > Census District 1, Damascus, Wayne, Pa > Fam Hist Lib Film 1255202 NA Film Number T9-1202 Pg 106A > ****************************************** > > contact on Brigham: califbob3@juno.com > > Hiram BRIGHAM Birth: 29 DEC 1799 Florida, Montgomery Co., NY > Death: 24 NOV 1873 Freeport, Stephenson Co., IL > > (Hiram son of: Sylvanus BRIGHAM b: 10 FEB 1771 Shrewsbury, Worcester, MA > , wife, Amy COX b: c.1777 in Florida, Montgomery Co., NY > > Hirma md. Mary SUTCLIFF b: 9 AUG 1805 in CT -- 29 AUG 1824 in Damascus, > Wayne, PA > > Their children: > > Joseph BRIGHAM b: 23 APR 1825 in Damascus, Wayne, PA > Mary A. BRIGHAM b: 21 MAY 1827 in Damascus, Wayne, PA > George S. BRIGHAM b: 24 JUN 1830 in Damascus, Wayne, PA > Amy BRIGHAM b: 15 OCT 1832 in Damascus, Wayne, PA > Webster BRIGHAM b: 18 DEC 1834 in Damascus, Wayne, PA > Hiram BRIGHAM b: 2 DEC 1837 in Damascus, Wayne, PA > Caroline C. BRIGHAM b: 15 APR 1841 > Truman C. BRIGHAM b: 17 JUL 1843 in Damascus, Wayne, PA > Hattie BRIGHAM b: 17 SEP 1845 in Damascus, Wayne, PA > Luther BRIGHAM b: 3 FEB 1850 in Damascus, Wayne, PA > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Genealogical Research Society Of Northeastern Pennsylvania > GRSNP@verizon.net www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp 210 Grant Street P.O. Box 1 Olyphant PA 18447 [570]383-7661 Fax[570]383-7466 > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Cleaining up// attempting to update, next Kellam pub. here is a "bit" FYI George md. Eleanor Elizabeth Kellam Household Record 1880 United States Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace George BRIGHAM Self M Male W 41 PA Farmer NY NY Elenor BRIGHAM Other M Female W 52 PA House Keeper PA PA Truman KELLAM Other S Male W 9 PA PA PA Census District 1, Damascus, Wayne, Pa Fam Hist Lib Film 1255202 NA Film Number T9-1202 Pg 106A ****************************************** contact on Brigham: califbob3@juno.com Hiram BRIGHAM Birth: 29 DEC 1799 Florida, Montgomery Co., NY Death: 24 NOV 1873 Freeport, Stephenson Co., IL (Hiram son of: Sylvanus BRIGHAM b: 10 FEB 1771 Shrewsbury, Worcester, MA , wife, Amy COX b: c.1777 in Florida, Montgomery Co., NY Hirma md. Mary SUTCLIFF b: 9 AUG 1805 in CT -- 29 AUG 1824 in Damascus, Wayne, PA Their children: Joseph BRIGHAM b: 23 APR 1825 in Damascus, Wayne, PA Mary A. BRIGHAM b: 21 MAY 1827 in Damascus, Wayne, PA George S. BRIGHAM b: 24 JUN 1830 in Damascus, Wayne, PA Amy BRIGHAM b: 15 OCT 1832 in Damascus, Wayne, PA Webster BRIGHAM b: 18 DEC 1834 in Damascus, Wayne, PA Hiram BRIGHAM b: 2 DEC 1837 in Damascus, Wayne, PA Caroline C. BRIGHAM b: 15 APR 1841 Truman C. BRIGHAM b: 17 JUL 1843 in Damascus, Wayne, PA Hattie BRIGHAM b: 17 SEP 1845 in Damascus, Wayne, PA Luther BRIGHAM b: 3 FEB 1850 in Damascus, Wayne, PA

Just in case there are any other folks in the world searching the OSENCUP/OSINCUP (and other variations) surname, here is a little info on my line (at least I hope it is!): Jacob OSENCOPE d aft 1820 prob. Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne Co.., PA; Ch. Betsey m Stephen Gilbert BARNES b 1782, Henry, Sarah m BARNES and Nancy b c 1800 m John LaFRANCE (my line). 'History of Broome Co., NY' by H. P. Smith, 1885: Vestal, Tracy Creek - 'Gilbert Osincup is a native of Vestal, where he was born in 1828, near the farm on which he now lives. He is a son of Henry (above mentioned) who came here from Kingston Valley in 1812. Henry's father was Jacob Osincup, a Hessian soldier, who was taken prisoner at Valley Forge by Washington's troops.' 'History of Broome Co., NY' by H. P. Smith, 1885: Vestal, Tracy Creek - 'Gilbert Osincup is a native of Vestal, where he was born in 1828, near the farm on which he now lives. He is a son of Henry (above mentioned) who came here from Kingston Valley in 1812. Henry's father was Jacob Osincup, a Hessian soldier, who was taken prisoner at Valley Forge by Washington's troops.' Trying to discover if the Jacob in Luzerne Co., may be the father of Henry mentioned above. Anyone??? * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/

Hi, Has there been any activity here lately? I haven't seen a message in about 5 days! Thanks. Sue

I finally found my GGGgrandpa!!! Lemuel DANIELS born April 1, 1786 in Bolton, Tolland Co., Connecticut died April 28th, 1858 and is buried in Peek Cemetery, Florence Township, St. Joseph, Michigan. He was married to Anna CHAPMAN in Wayne County, Pennsylvania. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~cemphoto/mi/stjoseph/florence/peek/peek.html Christina & Eunice Daniels, children of Cortlin Daniels and Roxanna Bartleson, are also named on the headstone with their grandfather, Lemuel Daniels. Melda Reed Delamater

I am very familure with FV. Have lived here since 69 when I returned from Viet Nam. Was born in Starrucca and will be burried there some day.( not to soon I hope )Thanks for answering. ---------- > From: Firehair3@aol.com > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAWAYNE] TEST----ing posts//and GA > Date: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:35 AM > > In a message dated 6/23/04 9:14:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > rick@classicsouth.net writes: > > > > > > > > My cousin livesin cataula, outside Columbus? And my daughter, Sarah, is > interviewing at Fort Valley today---she grad with her AA in May, intends to be a > Vet Tech, FV has one of the best programs in the country, plus they are a > minority college//she's American Indian.--"looks it"--which was a problem at the > woman's college she attended. Had we known--well. > > it was HUMID down there in your home state---almost made me rethink my going > to poker straight hair---after umpteen years of those little kits from the > drug store!!! > > had the BEST peach tea. > > Firehair > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe to PAWAYNE mailing list (list mode) Address to: PAWAYNE-L-request@rootsweb.com > type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message; nothing more. > For Digest mode: address to PAWAYNE-D-request@rootsweb.com > type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message; nothing more. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 6/23/04 9:14:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rick@classicsouth.net writes: > > My cousin livesin cataula, outside Columbus? And my daughter, Sarah, is interviewing at Fort Valley today---she grad with her AA in May, intends to be a Vet Tech, FV has one of the best programs in the country, plus they are a minority college//she's American Indian.--"looks it"--which was a problem at the woman's college she attended. Had we known--well. it was HUMID down there in your home state---almost made me rethink my going to poker straight hair---after umpteen years of those little kits from the drug store!!! had the BEST peach tea. Firehair

I am from Thomson Ga. Just off I20 about 30 miles from Augusta. ---------- > From: Firehair3@aol.com > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PAWAYNE] TEST----ing posts > Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 11:42 AM > > I came back after beng gone 10 days to GA---and got all the "test" messages. > > Guess my server works, whether I'm here or not. <G> > > Sheila / Firehair > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > If you change your email address; be sure to SUBSCRIBE your NEW address and UNSUBSCRIBE your OLD address > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Time period? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Adler-Farnach" <dadlerfa@twcny.rr.com> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] TEST----ing posts > I'm still looking for James ARTHUR family from outside of Honesdale. > Diane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <IrisLillie@aol.com> > To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 11:57 AM > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] TEST----ing posts > > > > we missed you and were bored???? > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical Society > > 810 Main Street P.O. Box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 [570] 253-3240 > > wchspa@ptd.net www.waynehistorypa.org > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical Society > 810 Main Street P.O. Box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 [570] 253-3240 > wchspa@ptd.net www.waynehistorypa.org > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

I'm still looking for James ARTHUR family from outside of Honesdale. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: <IrisLillie@aol.com> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] TEST----ing posts > we missed you and were bored???? > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical Society > 810 Main Street P.O. Box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 [570] 253-3240 > wchspa@ptd.net www.waynehistorypa.org > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 6/23/04 12:00:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, IrisLillie@aol.com writes: > we missed you and were bored???? awwwwwwwwwwww, that's so nice--- fresh peach shortcake, and ab--so -- lutely the most wonderful iced tea recipe ever----made up for you ---come on over!!! (down??) S/F