In a message dated 08/14/2004 7:00:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hjagger@pronetisp.net writes: > This Eunice Buckingham to whom you refer, would she be the daughter of > Ambrose Buckingham and E. Mahala Kelley, with a birthdate of about 1842? > No, Holly. The Eunice F Buckingham that I mentioned was born in Connecticut on 6 Aug 1795. She married Daniel H Swingle on 26 Sep 1824. She died on 5 Dec 1875 in South Canaan, Wayne County. Her husband, Daniel H Swingle (my Great Great Grandfather) was born 12 Jun 1798 and died 21 Dec 1878 in South Canaan, Wayne County. The parents of Eunice F Buckingham were Ambrose W Buckingham, born 1772, died 15 Sep 1826 and Eunice Griffing, born 1775, died 1842. My notes show that Ambrose W Buckingham and Eunice Griffing had ten children. John Buckingham, born 1794 married Mary Abby Eunice F Buckingham, born 1795 married Daniel H Swingle Nancy Buckingham, born 1797 married Harvey Miller Lucina Buckingham, born 1800 married Asa Jones Betsey Buckingham, born 1803 married James Carr Ambrose Buckingham, born 1805 married Mahala Kellee Stephen Buckingham born 1807 died 1817 Susan Buckingham born 1810 married Mordecai Brink Cornelius Buckingham born 1813 married Martha Kellee Thomas W Buckingham born 1816 died 1817 I defer to Diane Andreasen for information on Mahala Kellee (Kelley) and her husband Ambrose Buckingham. Best Regards, Carl Smith

Actually, Lincoln was shot in 1865. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > Ann > My mother, Zena, is still living and she says that her father was born the > year Lincoln was shot. She will be 93 this wednesday and is the last of of > his children. She is old but her mind is still good. If you look on the > 1920 cenasus you will see an 8year old daughter named Ruth. They had no > daughter named Ruth but if you trace back the years that would be my > mother. > > ---------- > > From: Ann O'Hara <yannster@ptd.net> > > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > Date: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:13 PM > > > > He may well have forgotten the year he was born (he wouldn't be the > first), > > but he does say on the 1900 census that he was born in October 1862. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> > > To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > > > > > Ann > > > Thank you for your response to my inquary. First let me say that my > grand > > > father was always known as Elmer E very few people knew he was actually > > > Elsworth Elmer. > > > Next, I have him born October 11, 1863in Wayne county. His father was > > > Francis Lightfoot Lee born in 1836 also in Wayne county and I beleive > the > > > same farm that was sold when ELMER moved into town. Francis was married > to > > > Elizabeth Woolheater of Delaware county NY. As to the idea that he was > > > actually from NY,I had not considered that but will look into it. > Thanks > > > again. > > > > > > ---------- > > > > From: Ann O'Hara <yannster@ptd.net> > > > > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > > Date: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:44 PM > > > > > > > > The reason you didn't find him before 1920 is that the farm was > located > > > in > > > > Preston Township, not Starrucca Borough. If you do a search for > > > Starrucca > > > > on Mapquest, you'll see that the borough is roughly rectangular in > > shape. > > > > Although Shehawken does not show on the map, you'll see Tallmansville > to > > > the > > > > southeast of Starrucca. Shehawken is north of Tallmansville and > almost > > > > directly east of Starrucca. The distance betrween them is only about > > > five > > > > miles, and the road is mostly in Preston. Based on their neighbors on > > the > > > > census, I'd place them in Preston Township closer to Starrucca than > > > > Shehawken. > > > > > > > > As for the census, working backward from 1920 - > > > > > > > > 1920. Elmer Lee and family in Starrucca Borough. Reel T625, Page > 263. > > > > > > > > 1910. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He and Martha have > > been > > > > married 23 years. Reel T624-1426, page 242. > > > > > > > > 1900. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He was born October > > > 1862 > > > > in NEW YORK. In other years he says he was born in Pennsylvania. > > > However, > > > > I could find no Elmer Lees in Wayne County in 1880 and 1870. > > > > Reel T623-1495, page 203. > > > > > > > > 1880. There were two Elmer Lees of the right age in New York in > areas > > > not > > > > too far from Wayne County: > > > > > > > > Elmer Lee, son of Wallace and Percilla Lee in Hurley, Ulster County, > NY. > > > > Reel T-9-939, page 111B. > > > > > > > > Elmer Lee, son of Frank Lee, in Newark Valley, Tioga County, NY. > Reel > > > > T9-937, page 138B. > > > > > > > > 1870. Elmore Lee, son of Wallace & Percilla, in Hurley. Reel > > M593-1105, > > > > page 116. > > > > > > > > You don't tell us the names of Elmer's parents, so the New York > Elmers > > > are > > > > highly speculative. I didn't find any Lees in the Ancestry.com index > > for > > > > Starrucca (which was then called Wayne) Borough in 1850 or 1860. > > > > > > > > Ann > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> > > > > To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:53 PM > > > > Subject: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to find out as much as I can about the Lee > family > > of > > > > > Starrucca. Can anyone out there tell me where the boundry lines of > > > > > Starrucca are? My grand father Elmer Lee owned a farm outside > > Starrucca > > > on > > > > > the road to Shehaukin. > > > > > ( spelled wrong ). My mother tells me they sold the farm and moved > to > > > town > > > > > when she was 14. However, the Starrucca Borough census of 1920is > the > > > first > > > > > I can find him and my other relitaves listed. This would have made > my > > > > > mother 8 years old . What would be the area they lived in when they > > > were > > > > on > > > > > the farm? My gg grand father and g grand father are listed in the > 1860 > > > > > Wayne borough - Starrucca census but there is no sign of Elmer > until > > > 1920. > > > > > He was born in 1863 so by this time, 1920, he would have been 57. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > > > Genealogical Research Society Of Northeastern Pennsylvania > > > > > GRSNP@verizon.net www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp 210 Grant Street > P.O. > > > Box > > > > 1 Olyphant PA 18447 [570]383-7661 Fax[570]383-7466 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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A little more info on Eunice - she was born 17 March 842 and married George B. CHAPMAN b 1843, son of Ralph and Laura (Taylor) Chapman. * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ -----Original Message----- From: Holly Jagger [mailto:hjagger@pronetisp.net] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:57 PM To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAWAYNE] Buckingham Carl, This Eunice Buckingham to whom you refer, would she be the daughter of Ambrose Buckingham and E. Mahala Kelley, with a birthdate of about 1842? Holly ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe to PAWAYNE mailing list (list mode) Address to: PAWAYNE-L-request@rootsweb.com type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message; nothing more. For Digest mode: address to PAWAYNE-D-request@rootsweb.com type UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message; nothing more. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Carl, This Eunice Buckingham to whom you refer, would she be the daughter of Ambrose Buckingham and E. Mahala Kelley, with a birthdate of about 1842? Holly

Ann My mother, Zena, is still living and she says that her father was born the year Lincoln was shot. She will be 93 this wednesday and is the last of of his children. She is old but her mind is still good. If you look on the 1920 cenasus you will see an 8year old daughter named Ruth. They had no daughter named Ruth but if you trace back the years that would be my mother. ---------- > From: Ann O'Hara <yannster@ptd.net> > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > Date: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:13 PM > > He may well have forgotten the year he was born (he wouldn't be the first), > but he does say on the 1900 census that he was born in October 1862. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> > To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > > Ann > > Thank you for your response to my inquary. First let me say that my grand > > father was always known as Elmer E very few people knew he was actually > > Elsworth Elmer. > > Next, I have him born October 11, 1863in Wayne county. His father was > > Francis Lightfoot Lee born in 1836 also in Wayne county and I beleive the > > same farm that was sold when ELMER moved into town. Francis was married to > > Elizabeth Woolheater of Delaware county NY. As to the idea that he was > > actually from NY,I had not considered that but will look into it. Thanks > > again. > > > > ---------- > > > From: Ann O'Hara <yannster@ptd.net> > > > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > Date: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:44 PM > > > > > > The reason you didn't find him before 1920 is that the farm was located > > in > > > Preston Township, not Starrucca Borough. If you do a search for > > Starrucca > > > on Mapquest, you'll see that the borough is roughly rectangular in > shape. > > > Although Shehawken does not show on the map, you'll see Tallmansville to > > the > > > southeast of Starrucca. Shehawken is north of Tallmansville and almost > > > directly east of Starrucca. The distance betrween them is only about > > five > > > miles, and the road is mostly in Preston. Based on their neighbors on > the > > > census, I'd place them in Preston Township closer to Starrucca than > > > Shehawken. > > > > > > As for the census, working backward from 1920 - > > > > > > 1920. Elmer Lee and family in Starrucca Borough. Reel T625, Page 263. > > > > > > 1910. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He and Martha have > been > > > married 23 years. Reel T624-1426, page 242. > > > > > > 1900. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He was born October > > 1862 > > > in NEW YORK. In other years he says he was born in Pennsylvania. > > However, > > > I could find no Elmer Lees in Wayne County in 1880 and 1870. > > > Reel T623-1495, page 203. > > > > > > 1880. There were two Elmer Lees of the right age in New York in areas > > not > > > too far from Wayne County: > > > > > > Elmer Lee, son of Wallace and Percilla Lee in Hurley, Ulster County, NY. > > > Reel T-9-939, page 111B. > > > > > > Elmer Lee, son of Frank Lee, in Newark Valley, Tioga County, NY. Reel > > > T9-937, page 138B. > > > > > > 1870. Elmore Lee, son of Wallace & Percilla, in Hurley. Reel > M593-1105, > > > page 116. > > > > > > You don't tell us the names of Elmer's parents, so the New York Elmers > > are > > > highly speculative. I didn't find any Lees in the Ancestry.com index > for > > > Starrucca (which was then called Wayne) Borough in 1850 or 1860. > > > > > > Ann > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> > > > To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:53 PM > > > Subject: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to find out as much as I can about the Lee family > of > > > > Starrucca. Can anyone out there tell me where the boundry lines of > > > > Starrucca are? My grand father Elmer Lee owned a farm outside > Starrucca > > on > > > > the road to Shehaukin. > > > > ( spelled wrong ). My mother tells me they sold the farm and moved to > > town > > > > when she was 14. However, the Starrucca Borough census of 1920is the > > first > > > > I can find him and my other relitaves listed. This would have made my > > > > mother 8 years old . What would be the area they lived in when they > > were > > > on > > > > the farm? My gg grand father and g grand father are listed in the 1860 > > > > Wayne borough - Starrucca census but there is no sign of Elmer until > > 1920. > > > > He was born in 1863 so by this time, 1920, he would have been 57. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > > Genealogical Research Society Of Northeastern Pennsylvania > > > > GRSNP@verizon.net www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp 210 Grant Street P.O. > > Box > > > 1 Olyphant PA 18447 [570]383-7661 Fax[570]383-7466 > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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He may well have forgotten the year he was born (he wouldn't be the first), but he does say on the 1900 census that he was born in October 1862. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > Ann > Thank you for your response to my inquary. First let me say that my grand > father was always known as Elmer E very few people knew he was actually > Elsworth Elmer. > Next, I have him born October 11, 1863in Wayne county. His father was > Francis Lightfoot Lee born in 1836 also in Wayne county and I beleive the > same farm that was sold when ELMER moved into town. Francis was married to > Elizabeth Woolheater of Delaware county NY. As to the idea that he was > actually from NY,I had not considered that but will look into it. Thanks > again. > > ---------- > > From: Ann O'Hara <yannster@ptd.net> > > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > Date: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:44 PM > > > > The reason you didn't find him before 1920 is that the farm was located > in > > Preston Township, not Starrucca Borough. If you do a search for > Starrucca > > on Mapquest, you'll see that the borough is roughly rectangular in shape. > > Although Shehawken does not show on the map, you'll see Tallmansville to > the > > southeast of Starrucca. Shehawken is north of Tallmansville and almost > > directly east of Starrucca. The distance betrween them is only about > five > > miles, and the road is mostly in Preston. Based on their neighbors on the > > census, I'd place them in Preston Township closer to Starrucca than > > Shehawken. > > > > As for the census, working backward from 1920 - > > > > 1920. Elmer Lee and family in Starrucca Borough. Reel T625, Page 263. > > > > 1910. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He and Martha have been > > married 23 years. Reel T624-1426, page 242. > > > > 1900. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He was born October > 1862 > > in NEW YORK. In other years he says he was born in Pennsylvania. > However, > > I could find no Elmer Lees in Wayne County in 1880 and 1870. > > Reel T623-1495, page 203. > > > > 1880. There were two Elmer Lees of the right age in New York in areas > not > > too far from Wayne County: > > > > Elmer Lee, son of Wallace and Percilla Lee in Hurley, Ulster County, NY. > > Reel T-9-939, page 111B. > > > > Elmer Lee, son of Frank Lee, in Newark Valley, Tioga County, NY. Reel > > T9-937, page 138B. > > > > 1870. Elmore Lee, son of Wallace & Percilla, in Hurley. Reel M593-1105, > > page 116. > > > > You don't tell us the names of Elmer's parents, so the New York Elmers > are > > highly speculative. I didn't find any Lees in the Ancestry.com index for > > Starrucca (which was then called Wayne) Borough in 1850 or 1860. > > > > Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> > > To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:53 PM > > Subject: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > > > > > I have been trying to find out as much as I can about the Lee family of > > > Starrucca. Can anyone out there tell me where the boundry lines of > > > Starrucca are? My grand father Elmer Lee owned a farm outside Starrucca > on > > > the road to Shehaukin. > > > ( spelled wrong ). My mother tells me they sold the farm and moved to > town > > > when she was 14. However, the Starrucca Borough census of 1920is the > first > > > I can find him and my other relitaves listed. This would have made my > > > mother 8 years old . What would be the area they lived in when they > were > > on > > > the farm? My gg grand father and g grand father are listed in the 1860 > > > Wayne borough - Starrucca census but there is no sign of Elmer until > 1920. > > > He was born in 1863 so by this time, 1920, he would have been 57. > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > Genealogical Research Society Of Northeastern Pennsylvania > > > GRSNP@verizon.net www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp 210 Grant Street P.O. > Box > > 1 Olyphant PA 18447 [570]383-7661 Fax[570]383-7466 > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogical Research Society Of Northeastern Pennsylvania > > GRSNP@verizon.net www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp 210 Grant Street P.O. 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Holly, Not that I know of. Of course Susquehanna was once part of Luzerne County. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Jagger" <hjagger@pronetisp.net> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: [PAWAYNE] Wayne/Susq. county borders > Ann, > Thanks for the information. Was there any change over the years in the > border b/n Wayne and Susquehanna Counties? > Holly > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to check out connecting counties when digging for those > roots. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

In a message dated 08/13/2004 10:03:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, carey@advsolutions.com writes: > here and still hunting for Miner Cary's grave or Rosanna Swartz Cobb > Cary Swingle's grave. > When you locate those grave sites, Lisa, look at the ones on either side. Hopefully your graves are right next to the graves of Great Great Grandpa Daniel H Swingle and his wife, Eunice F Buckingham. Best Regards, Carl Smith

Ann Thank you for your response to my inquary. First let me say that my grand father was always known as Elmer E very few people knew he was actually Elsworth Elmer. Next, I have him born October 11, 1863in Wayne county. His father was Francis Lightfoot Lee born in 1836 also in Wayne county and I beleive the same farm that was sold when ELMER moved into town. Francis was married to Elizabeth Woolheater of Delaware county NY. As to the idea that he was actually from NY,I had not considered that but will look into it. Thanks again. ---------- > From: Ann O'Hara <yannster@ptd.net> > To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > Date: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:44 PM > > The reason you didn't find him before 1920 is that the farm was located in > Preston Township, not Starrucca Borough. If you do a search for Starrucca > on Mapquest, you'll see that the borough is roughly rectangular in shape. > Although Shehawken does not show on the map, you'll see Tallmansville to the > southeast of Starrucca. Shehawken is north of Tallmansville and almost > directly east of Starrucca. The distance betrween them is only about five > miles, and the road is mostly in Preston. Based on their neighbors on the > census, I'd place them in Preston Township closer to Starrucca than > Shehawken. > > As for the census, working backward from 1920 - > > 1920. Elmer Lee and family in Starrucca Borough. Reel T625, Page 263. > > 1910. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He and Martha have been > married 23 years. Reel T624-1426, page 242. > > 1900. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He was born October 1862 > in NEW YORK. In other years he says he was born in Pennsylvania. However, > I could find no Elmer Lees in Wayne County in 1880 and 1870. > Reel T623-1495, page 203. > > 1880. There were two Elmer Lees of the right age in New York in areas not > too far from Wayne County: > > Elmer Lee, son of Wallace and Percilla Lee in Hurley, Ulster County, NY. > Reel T-9-939, page 111B. > > Elmer Lee, son of Frank Lee, in Newark Valley, Tioga County, NY. Reel > T9-937, page 138B. > > 1870. Elmore Lee, son of Wallace & Percilla, in Hurley. Reel M593-1105, > page 116. > > You don't tell us the names of Elmer's parents, so the New York Elmers are > highly speculative. I didn't find any Lees in the Ancestry.com index for > Starrucca (which was then called Wayne) Borough in 1850 or 1860. > > Ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> > To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:53 PM > Subject: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > > > > I have been trying to find out as much as I can about the Lee family of > > Starrucca. Can anyone out there tell me where the boundry lines of > > Starrucca are? My grand father Elmer Lee owned a farm outside Starrucca on > > the road to Shehaukin. > > ( spelled wrong ). My mother tells me they sold the farm and moved to town > > when she was 14. However, the Starrucca Borough census of 1920is the first > > I can find him and my other relitaves listed. This would have made my > > mother 8 years old . What would be the area they lived in when they were > on > > the farm? My gg grand father and g grand father are listed in the 1860 > > Wayne borough - Starrucca census but there is no sign of Elmer until 1920. > > He was born in 1863 so by this time, 1920, he would have been 57. > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogical Research Society Of Northeastern Pennsylvania > > GRSNP@verizon.net www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp 210 Grant Street P.O. Box > 1 Olyphant PA 18447 [570]383-7661 Fax[570]383-7466 > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Genealogical Research Society Of Northeastern Pennsylvania > GRSNP@verizon.net www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp 210 Grant Street P.O. Box 1 Olyphant PA 18447 [570]383-7661 Fax[570]383-7466 > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Ann, Thanks for the information. Was there any change over the years in the border b/n Wayne and Susquehanna Counties? Holly

The reason you didn't find him before 1920 is that the farm was located in Preston Township, not Starrucca Borough. If you do a search for Starrucca on Mapquest, you'll see that the borough is roughly rectangular in shape. Although Shehawken does not show on the map, you'll see Tallmansville to the southeast of Starrucca. Shehawken is north of Tallmansville and almost directly east of Starrucca. The distance betrween them is only about five miles, and the road is mostly in Preston. Based on their neighbors on the census, I'd place them in Preston Township closer to Starrucca than Shehawken. As for the census, working backward from 1920 - 1920. Elmer Lee and family in Starrucca Borough. Reel T625, Page 263. 1910. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He and Martha have been married 23 years. Reel T624-1426, page 242. 1900. Elmer Lee and family in Preston Township. He was born October 1862 in NEW YORK. In other years he says he was born in Pennsylvania. However, I could find no Elmer Lees in Wayne County in 1880 and 1870. Reel T623-1495, page 203. 1880. There were two Elmer Lees of the right age in New York in areas not too far from Wayne County: Elmer Lee, son of Wallace and Percilla Lee in Hurley, Ulster County, NY. Reel T-9-939, page 111B. Elmer Lee, son of Frank Lee, in Newark Valley, Tioga County, NY. Reel T9-937, page 138B. 1870. Elmore Lee, son of Wallace & Percilla, in Hurley. Reel M593-1105, page 116. You don't tell us the names of Elmer's parents, so the New York Elmers are highly speculative. I didn't find any Lees in the Ancestry.com index for Starrucca (which was then called Wayne) Borough in 1850 or 1860. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Richard" <rick@classicsouth.net> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:53 PM Subject: [PAWAYNE] Boundries > I have been trying to find out as much as I can about the Lee family of > Starrucca. Can anyone out there tell me where the boundry lines of > Starrucca are? My grand father Elmer Lee owned a farm outside Starrucca on > the road to Shehaukin. > ( spelled wrong ). My mother tells me they sold the farm and moved to town > when she was 14. However, the Starrucca Borough census of 1920is the first > I can find him and my other relitaves listed. This would have made my > mother 8 years old . What would be the area they lived in when they were on > the farm? My gg grand father and g grand father are listed in the 1860 > Wayne borough - Starrucca census but there is no sign of Elmer until 1920. > He was born in 1863 so by this time, 1920, he would have been 57. > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Genealogical Research Society Of Northeastern Pennsylvania > GRSNP@verizon.net www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp 210 Grant Street P.O. Box 1 Olyphant PA 18447 [570]383-7661 Fax[570]383-7466 > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Holly, I'm not an expert but did write an article for the Wayne County Historical Society Newsletter on the subject. Starrucca was never part of Susquehanna County but is right on the border. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Jagger" <hjagger@pronetisp.net> To: <PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:10 PM Subject: [PAWAYNE] Starrucca's history > I have wondered for some time, wasn't Starrucca in Susquehanna County for a > time, then in Wayne? > > My grgr grandfather William Harris, Jr., moved from Lakeville "to > Starrucca," Wayne PA in 1874, then his wife died. (And by 1880 census he is > listed in Herrick township, Susquehanna County, PA.) Somewhere I saw > Starrucca listed as in Susquehanna County. Looking at a map, I can see how > changes could be made there--it is right on the boundary, i think. > > Is anyone out there an expert on Starrucca's history? > Holly > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Genealogical Research Society Of Northeastern Pennsylvania > GRSNP@verizon.net www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp 210 Grant Street P.O. Box 1 Olyphant PA 18447 [570]383-7661 Fax[570]383-7466 > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

I have wondered for some time, wasn't Starrucca in Susquehanna County for a time, then in Wayne? My grgr grandfather William Harris, Jr., moved from Lakeville "to Starrucca," Wayne PA in 1874, then his wife died. (And by 1880 census he is listed in Herrick township, Susquehanna County, PA.) Somewhere I saw Starrucca listed as in Susquehanna County. Looking at a map, I can see how changes could be made there--it is right on the boundary, i think. Is anyone out there an expert on Starrucca's history? Holly

I have been trying to find out as much as I can about the Lee family of Starrucca. Can anyone out there tell me where the boundry lines of Starrucca are? My grand father Elmer Lee owned a farm outside Starrucca on the road to Shehaukin. ( spelled wrong ). My mother tells me they sold the farm and moved to town when she was 14. However, the Starrucca Borough census of 1920is the first I can find him and my other relitaves listed. This would have made my mother 8 years old . What would be the area they lived in when they were on the farm? My gg grand father and g grand father are listed in the 1860 Wayne borough - Starrucca census but there is no sign of Elmer until 1920. He was born in 1863 so by this time, 1920, he would have been 57.

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Yes ... we are out here. I have just be in hot pursuit of ancestors in Wisconsin... Must be vacation for everyone else, that isn't fleeing Hurricane Charlie.

This list always slows in the summer. Folks are on vacation. Will be back in Sept. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erik A Samson To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:43 AM Subject: [PAWAYNE] Anyone out there I resubscribed to this list after being off the list for several years. I have subscribed for two or three days and their has been no postings. Has this list become very small. Erik A Samson easamson@echoes.net ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== If you change your email address; be sure to SUBSCRIBE your NEW address and UNSUBSCRIBE your OLD address ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Yes, here and still hunting for Miner Cary's grave or Rosanna Swartz Cobb Cary Swingle's grave. Lisa Carey Larchevesque -----Original Message----- From: IrisLillie@aol.com [mailto:IrisLillie@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:13 AM To: PAWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE] Anyone out there Yes ... we are out here. I have just be in hot pursuit of ancestors in Wisconsin... Must be vacation for everyone else, that isn't fleeing Hurricane Charlie. ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== If the county you are looking in borders state lines make sure to check the other state for records also. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I resubscribed to this list after being off the list for several years. I have subscribed for two or three days and their has been no postings. Has this list become very small. Erik A Samson easamson@echoes.net