In a message dated 6/27/00 4:29:02 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << In a message dated 6/27/00 1:35:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Some fool writes about something I do care to know.. how can this be stopped.. how do I unsubscribe to the and others of no meaning or need to know nonsense? : Thanks, Seano >> Not sure, but I think we may have just been insulted.... but when I unsubscribe from a list I actually know how to do it with out leaving a nasty message for those that still enjoy the list... all one needs to do is send a letter to the address..... << [email protected] >> put the word unsubscribe in the the Subject line nothing needs to be writen in the body of the letter, and no one needs to be told that you find their conversation meaningless... Of course you can still send a rude letter if you are that type of person.

In a message dated 6/27/00 1:35:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Some fool writes about something I do care to know.. how can this be stopped.. how do I unsubscribe to the and others of no meaning or need to know nonsense? : Thanks, Seano << [email protected] >>

Iris, As far as I know, our Wayne County snakes are relatively benign, although there are still rattlesnakes along the river (I hear - you won't catch me crawling around over there). Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE-L] cemetary indexes > In a message dated 6/27/00 3:22:22 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] > writes: >

In a message dated 6/27/00 3:22:22 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << snakes and poison ivy is welcome. >> Just a passing question, what snakes do you have up there, I kind of thought it might be too cold for too long during the winter to have very many... Of course that is coming from a Missouri gal whose state has the most poisonous snakes of any state in the union.... Followed by poison Oak and Sumac along with Ivy...... Now that I think about it... why do I live here??? Iris

Now that the cemetery issue is resolved, let's start spelling it "cemetery." Ann

It has been an unusual day on this list, and we all did really well minding our manners until: >"From: [email protected] >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:12:13 EDT >Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE-L] SPELLING >In a message dated 6/27/00 1:35:57 PM >Pacific Daylight Time, >Some fool writes >about something I do care to know.. how >can this be stopped.. how do I >unsubscribe to the and others of no >meaning or need to know nonsense? : >Thanks, Seano" This is the PAWAYNE list, and what you read today was about Wayne Co. PA; we are not the DAPIXMAN list. Because we use this list to communicate, some of us feel the topics of spelling and grammar are relevant and appropriate. If you find the topics on this list intolerable, remove yourself. The instructions are in the letter you received when you joined. The responsibility is yours, not ours. RE: Spelling Since the topic was opened, I, too have a request. The borough we're most closely associated with is spelled Starrucca. I know many people in the area do not pronounce it that way, which is fine, but when written, it should be spelled correctly. When I was being taught manners (in the Dark Ages), this was considered common courtesy. Thanks! Elaine DICKEY/CUMBO [email protected] ====================== . Free greeting cards, invitations and reliable Web based email at The Migration Route Post Office http://freeyellow.com/members8/rivercountry/aypo.html ------------------------------------------------------------ Email Provided By http://www.draac.com/ Free Graphics http://gifs123.tripod.com/

My point exactly. Anyone who is willing to brave the bugs, snakes and poison ivy is welcome. Ann O'Hara ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Reed <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE-L] cemetary indexes

Lisa, Thank you for understanding. On those terms, I for one will be happy to participate. Ann O'Hara ----- Original Message ----- From: Lisa Carey Larchevesque <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:03 AM Subject: RE: [PAWAYNE-L] cemetary indexes

Iris, That's the point exactly. Ann O'Hara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE-L] cemetary indexes

In a message dated 6/27/00 11:15:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << y wife checked with a lawyer (albeit informally, but still valid, I guess) and he said if anyone can walk into the place and get the same information there is no infringement of copyright or other legal problems. It is considered public information and therefore permissable to put on the internet to facilitate other researchers. >> Made a fast call to a copyright atty at the Law School we often check with. What was told your wife is correct, and vital stats are public domain, cannot be copyrighted, only your format, family bios, etc. are. If someone did the work, listing gravestones, etc., it is courtesy, professionally ethical, to cite/credit, the source. I always figure, not everyone is going to want my line, but, want the other brother, sister, Aunt, whatever-- and who knows, finding distant kin sometimes finds photos, letters, answers, and on, on,on. I talked to Equinunk Hist. Soc, abt donating the two Kellam Bibles I've owned for years. Jacob, Hannah Pierce, and Jeptha, Elvira Beda Parsons. These folks had huge families, and their descendnats --all cousins to me--- are as entitled as I am to see, touch, and copy. Isn't the bottom line --putting these families back together??? Sheila // Firehair ---- headed for fresh pot of coffee, last one is cold and more than 15 min old (my one wasteful vice) "What one accepts, one teaches." This is a subcribed/requested mailing by the participants, not spam mail under AOL TOS. If you wish to be added /removed notify [email protected], you'll be deleted/added immediately. Requests for mailings /terminations are kept on file. I'm in no way responsible for the forwarding of email I send to others not subscribers/requesters. Under Bill s.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th U.S. Congress this letter can not be considered spam as long as a Remove Link is included.

Lisa, My wife checked with a lawyer (albeit informally, but still valid, I guess) and he said if anyone can walk into the place and get the same information there is no infringement of copyright or other legal problems. It is considered public information and therefore permissable to put on the internet to facilitate other researchers. Maybe others have a more definitive answer with references. Ed Reed Edward11 REED (William10, William9, Richard8, Egbert7, Charles6, Josiah5, Josiah4, John3, Thomas2, John1) ( http://www.mindspring.com/~dabbler ) Researching REED, COMSTOCK, HETTES, JONES (MD, PA, CT, RI)

In a message dated 6/27/00 9:40:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Tombstone Project that is on the web, perhaps you can get with the local Boy Scout Troops and get them interested in doing the cemeteries as an Eagle Scout project. >> Great idea, and they can cope with snakes!!! Delaware Co. NY has many transcriptions of cemeteries on their site, Sullivan is doing the same. Broome Co. is super This list has more info than the Wayne and Pike sites, unless I'm doing a dumb, dumber, job of accessing??? Sheila // Firehair "What one accepts, one teaches." This is a subcribed/requested mailing by the participants, not spam mail under AOL TOS. If you wish to be added /removed notify [email protected], you'll be deleted/added immediately. Requests for mailings /terminations are kept on file. I'm in no way responsible for the forwarding of email I send to others not subscribers/requesters. Under Bill s.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th U.S. Congress this letter can not be considered spam as long as a Remove Link is included.

You may not be able to post a listing of the dead coping it from an already published source, but one thing you can do is start a page where all of us can add to your list. If you list your families, and maybe the "neighbors" to each of the graves, and each of us do just that, we can cover a lot.. not as precise, but it is something, The other thing is the Tombstone Project that is on the web, perhaps you can get with the local Boy Scout Troops and get them interested in doing the cemeteries as an Eagle Scout project. That is working well in a lot of areas. And again, if there really is several sources (the only one I have seen is by the Historian in the Wayne County Historic Society) and they seem to want to keep that within the society... but if there is really more than one, write each author and ask for permission... you never know, they just might say yes..... Iris

In a message dated 6/27/00 8:06:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << RootsWeb's rules - material cannot be posted without the permission of the author >> Too bad they don't enforce it. I have NO problem with my stuff being quoted, used to help, fill in lines, whatever. What I have gotten really fed to the teeth with is those who use, enter in data bases, take credit for---even alter to suit themselves--- work I've done, has my stamp and my $$$ all over it. I'm getting into the last stretch of publishing a book on Southern Tier, Wayne Co., etc., and you can bet, anyone gave me info, data, if I used a book someone else did, you will see it cited, and where I have permission, an address to contact those (live) folks. (can't do anything about the dead ones, guys) I'm no oracle, and, doing so much "on my own" kind of, am more than likely to be fallible. Which is why I'm going to separate volumes, can add corrections as we go along. Copyright attorneys told us at a meeting, as long as we quote source, author, etc. without alteration, giving full credit, we're on safe ground. Isn't an author alive doesn't want their work thought good enuf to be used as a good source by another. Now, if our work ends up a mini series and then an epic movie, earning you bucks and residuals, you may well have to cut them a check---or at least give them a small part-----LOLOLOLOL--don't we wish--we DO play to a limited audience, unfortunately. Firehair ( the comment "you have my vote" is only an expression meaning go for it, do it, whatever, doesn't carry weight that is legal, or binding in this context) "What one accepts, one teaches." This is a subcribed/requested mailing by the participants, not spam mail under AOL TOS. If you wish to be added /removed notify [email protected], you'll be deleted/added immediately. Requests for mailings /terminations are kept on file. I'm in no way responsible for the forwarding of email I send to others not subscribers/requesters. Under Bill s.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th U.S. Congress this letter can not be considered spam as long as a Remove Link is included.

Iris, Thank you. That is exactly what I intended. I will hotlink a page from each of the cemeteries listed and put in the people that I have researched. If others do the same then eventually we have a data base. I am not trying to offend or infringe, only help people who don't live in Wayne County, PA find their dead relatives. I was just there for a week visit and visited over 12 cemeteries in two days. It was a whirlwind tour and I got a lot of info - for myself- then when I got back to Colorado I felt terrible that I did not have more time to get more info for everyone else. If anyone would like to add to the database let me know. I refer each of the numerous requests I get to the WCHS. I would like to additionally help people without always sending them somewhere else and to one more email address. All the best, Lisa Carey Larchevesque http://www.advsolutions.com/carey http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/l/a/r/Lisa-A-Larchevesque http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawayne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 7:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE-L] cemetary indexes You may not be able to post a listing of the dead coping it from an already published source, but one thing you can do is start a page where all of us can add to your list. If you list your families, and maybe the "neighbors" to each of the graves, and each of us do just that, we can cover a lot.. not as precise, but it is something, The other thing is the Tombstone Project that is on the web, perhaps you can get with the local Boy Scout Troops and get them interested in doing the cemeteries as an Eagle Scout project. That is working well in a lot of areas. And again, if there really is several sources (the only one I have seen is by the Historian in the Wayne County Historic Society) and they seem to want to keep that within the society... but if there is really more than one, write each author and ask for permission... you never know, they just might say yes..... Iris ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical Society 810 Main Street P.O. box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 (570)253-3240 [email protected] ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

This is not a voting issue but a matter of copyright law. The person who does the work (and that means crawling among snakes, poison ivy, etc.) and typing up the result owns the copyright. It's also a matter of RootsWeb's rules - material cannot be posted without the permission of the author. If anyone else is willing to do the work and then donate the result, that's their privilege. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 10:35 PM Subject: [PAWAYNE-L] cemetary indexes

I second that. Pat Searching: Roberts, Allen, Turner, Bates, Matthews, Bonham, Heath, Monington, Stalker and many more - mostly from Wayne County, PA

Don't see why not, have, around the US, seen duplicate books, different authors, on many a cemetery and wow, would that be a huge help. You have my vote!!!!! Firehair "What one accepts, one teaches." This is a subcribed/requested mailing by the participants, not spam mail under AOL TOS. If you wish to be added /removed notify [email protected], you'll be deleted/added immediately. Requests for mailings /terminations are kept on file. I'm in no way responsible for the forwarding of email I send to others not subscribers/requesters. Under Bill s.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th U.S. Congress this letter can not be considered spam as long as a Remove Link is included.

Hi everyone, Does anyone know if I would be able to publish lists of people/tombstone listings of the dead for each of the Wayne Cemetaries on the Wayne Page? All the best, Lisa Carey Larchevesque http://www.advsolutions.com/carey http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/l/a/r/Lisa-A-Larchevesque http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawayne

>Fred Myers from dsdata please email me. >I've been unable to get to your site and can't find you email address! >cuzzin Cindy in FL > During a transfer of the site it has been temporarily "gone down" I have been assured it will be "up" in 12-18 hours Apologies for those of you wanting to use the census pages (or other bits) Fred Myers