Hello, I'm new to this mailing list and i was wondering if anyone has any information on the Fives? Since all Fives are related, anything will help. Also any info and the Gill and Haggerty, who are related to the Fives, will help? thanks Susan

Ann O'Hara wrote: > > Small correction. Bethany is a borough situated within Dyberry Township. > It's always wise to check both for ancestors who lived in that area. And, > of course, Wayne Borough later became Starrucca Borough. Alas I can only read what is written on the records I have - being rather further removed from the research archives than most :-) to quote from the top of the census page 816 the "" secions being handwritten Free inhabitants in "Wayne Borough" in the County of "Wayne" State of "Penn" enumerated by me, on the "16th" day of "June" 1860. "Wm H Ham" Ass't Marshall Post Office "Starucca PA" At least now I understand why there was a bit of movement between Bethany and Dyberry. And why there was no linkages between the 1860 Starucca and the later (1910) entries. Thanks Anne Fred PS the link on Starucca will now actually show Starucca Thanks Lee -- _-_|\ Frederick W. Myers [email protected] / \ 187 Mondurup St Mt Barker WA 6324 Australia \*.-._/ Perhaps your most distant relative :-) v http://www.dsdata.com.au/genealogy/nepa/

Hi Ann and all, I don't have a lot on the Woodmansee line yet. I only recently discovered it. Here is what I have: Descendants of Gideon Woodmansee 1 Gideon Woodmansee 1757 - 1851 ..+Amy Carter .....2 Azuba Woodmansee 1795 - 1864 .......+Rufus Geer 1777 - 1870 .........3 Amy Geer 1813 - 1880 ...........+Stephen Potter London 1806 - 1907 .............4 Rufus Geer London 1847 - 1907 ................+Henrietta Marie Wainwright 1860 - 1929 .................5 Sarah Amy London 1882 - 1960 ...................+ Arthur Willard Fredenberg 1882 -1903 ..................... 6 Rufus London Fredenberg 1903 - 1978 ........................+ Rilla Florence Fisher 1902 -1984 ......................... 7 Florence Amy Fredenberg ............................+ John Donnelly Lauer ............................. 8 Carol Jean Lauer (me) Here is my genealogy website: http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Opry/3666/index.html --- Ann O'Hara <[email protected]> wrote: > Carol, > > Lake Como is a very small town in Buckingham > Township, Wayne County. Any > genealogical information would come from census, > tax records, , wills, > deeds, etc. These are available either at the Wayne > County Historical > Society or the Wayne County Court House, both in > Honesdale. > > What Woodmansees are you researching? There are > several Woodmansee > researchers on this list, including myself. > > Ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:09 PM > Subject: [PAWAYNE-L] Lake Como > > > > Hi, > > > > I am new to this list. I have a question. My > > grandfather was born in Lake Como, Wayne, PA. I > can > > find this on a map but I have not been able to > find > > any listings in genealogy information for this > > location. Is this the actual name of a town/city? > > Should I be looking at Lake? > > > > Thanks > > Carol Lauer Spoor > > > > Researching Lauer, Fredenberg, London, Helms, > Geer, > > Woodmansee > > > http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Opry/3666/index.html > > > > > > ===== > > You can reach me on ICQ #39463757. Check out my > website at > http://home.talkcity.com/RomanceRd/curiouscat43/ > > > > Also check out this website, it's really cool: > > http://www.etour.com/default.asp?associd=aff14962 > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for > all of > > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical > Society > > 810 Main Street P.O. box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 > (570)253-3240 > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical > Society > 810 Main Street P.O. box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 > (570)253-3240 > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ===== You can reach me on ICQ #39463757. Check out my website at http://home.talkcity.com/RomanceRd/curiouscat43/ Also check out this website, it's really cool: http://www.etour.com/default.asp?associd=aff14962 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Hello all Thanks to Joan Francis in creating a new site with the cemetery data for Pike county and adjoining New York. A link now appears on my general NEPA genealogy page (see below) The added data is from the 1860 census for Wayne County. Bethany Township and Wayne Boro - Starucca PO (smile Elaine) are the start. With this entry, Bethany data is included for the 1850/1860 and 1870 censuses and the migration of some families can be followed in the census information. I have included this connection where I have found them. However the matching process does not pick up the matching of names with initials only for the Christian names. So any pointers were families can be matched from one census to another is appreciated. I will continue working on finishing the 1850 Pike County census and am open to suggestions as to the next 1860 township(s) that people would like to see. Have a joyous and safe holiday season. Fred -- _-_|\ Frederick W. Myers [email protected] / \ 187 Mondurup St Mt Barker WA 6324 Australia \*.-._/ Perhaps your most distant relative :-) v http://www.dsdata.com.au/genealogy/nepa/

Carol, Lake Como is a very small town in Buckingham Township, Wayne County. Any genealogical information would come from census, tax records, , wills, deeds, etc. These are available either at the Wayne County Historical Society or the Wayne County Court House, both in Honesdale. What Woodmansees are you researching? There are several Woodmansee researchers on this list, including myself. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: [PAWAYNE-L] Lake Como > Hi, > > I am new to this list. I have a question. My > grandfather was born in Lake Como, Wayne, PA. I can > find this on a map but I have not been able to find > any listings in genealogy information for this > location. Is this the actual name of a town/city? > Should I be looking at Lake? > > Thanks > Carol Lauer Spoor > > Researching Lauer, Fredenberg, London, Helms, Geer, > Woodmansee > http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Opry/3666/index.html > > > ===== > You can reach me on ICQ #39463757. Check out my website at http://home.talkcity.com/RomanceRd/curiouscat43/ > > Also check out this website, it's really cool: > http://www.etour.com/default.asp?associd=aff14962 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical Society > 810 Main Street P.O. box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 (570)253-3240 > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Holly, According to the Bicentennial history book, Wayne Borough was established (from parts of Preston and Scott townships) in 1853, and the name was changed to Starrucca Borough (actually it was Starucca in its earlier days - the second "r" was added later) in 1873. Neither borough existed in the 1850 census or before. It's very important in doing Wayne County research to know stuff like this - that is, the dates that townships were formed and what entities they were formed from. It's very common for families to live in the same house their entire lives but be in different geographical entities every time the census enumerator came around. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Jagger" <[email protected]> To: "Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: wayne became starrucca? > Ann, > In what year did Wayne Borough turn into Starrucca? that is > interesting; wonder before which date the census records say "Wayne"... > thanks for the info > Holly Jagger > Binghamton NY > > >

Hi, I am new to this list. I have a question. My grandfather was born in Lake Como, Wayne, PA. I can find this on a map but I have not been able to find any listings in genealogy information for this location. Is this the actual name of a town/city? Should I be looking at Lake? Thanks Carol Lauer Spoor Researching Lauer, Fredenberg, London, Helms, Geer, Woodmansee http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Opry/3666/index.html ===== You can reach me on ICQ #39463757. Check out my website at http://home.talkcity.com/RomanceRd/curiouscat43/ Also check out this website, it's really cool: http://www.etour.com/default.asp?associd=aff14962 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Fred: My vote for your next work is to build on the 1860 Starrucca information with Preston, Buckingham and Scott Townships. People moved back and forth across those areas. Lee Woodmansee

Small correction. Bethany is a borough situated within Dyberry Township. It's always wise to check both for ancestors who lived in that area. And, of course, Wayne Borough later became Starrucca Borough. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick Myers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:02 AM Subject: [PAWAYNE-L] New NEPA census data

The Historical Society doesn't have the Times Herald Record. They have some very early papers and then the Citizen, the Herald, the Republic, the Democrat, the Independent, the Almanac, the Hancock Herald and a couple of years each of the Hawley Times and the Narrowsburg paper. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE-L] Times Herald Record > The historical society in Honesdale would have it, > C.Furtaw > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical Society > 810 Main Street P.O. box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 (570)253-3240 > [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > >

Thank you to everyone who posted links and made suggestions about the obit!! I was able to fiond the info I needed!! Sarah __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Sarah wrote: >> I need an obituary from this October that was >> published in the Times Herald Record. Which historic >> societies and/or libraries have this newspaper? >Elaine wrote: > The Times-Herald Record is online and has obituaries archived for >over a year. You can try http://www.recordonline.com/archive/ (hope that >works, if not try a search engine) and hopefully you will find it. As the above link produces a "place holder" the following covers the adjacent New York / Hudson valley area. http://www.th-record.com/services/archives.html Fred -- _-_|\ Frederick W. Myers [email protected] / \ 187 Mondurup St Mt Barker WA 6324 Australia \*.-._/ Perhaps your most distant relative :-) v http://www.dsdata.com.au/genealogy/nepa/

Thanks Fred for correcting my link address for the Times Herald Record. I also want to thank you for all the census info. you have put on the internet. Because of your information, I found my g. g. grandparents (John & Mary Law) in Honesdale. For years, I assumed they were in Texas Twp. since John owned land there. When I couldn't locate them, I decided the census taker either missed them or they had temporarily moved away. That find was a big thrill. :o) Sincerely, Elaine Frederick Myers wrote: > Sarah wrote: > >> I need an obituary from this October that was > >> published in the Times Herald Record. Which historic > >> societies and/or libraries have this newspaper? > >Elaine wrote: > > The Times-Herald Record is online and has obituaries archived for > >over a year. You can try http://www.recordonline.com/archive/ (hope that > >works, if not try a search engine) and hopefully you will find it. > > As the above link produces a "place holder" > the following covers the adjacent New York / Hudson valley area. > > http://www.th-record.com/services/archives.html > > Fred > > -- > _-_|\ Frederick W. Myers [email protected] > / \ 187 Mondurup St Mt Barker WA 6324 Australia > \*.-._/ Perhaps your most distant relative :-) > v http://www.dsdata.com.au/genealogy/nepa/ > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Genealogical Research Society of Northeastern Pa., Inc. > 210 Grant Street Olyphant, PA. 18447 (570) 383-7661 > [email protected] http://www.cfrobbins.com/grsnp > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

The historical society in Honesdale would have it, C.Furtaw

Grace Connell wrote: > > I had some relatives from the Damascus, PA area and I know they were > Lutheran. Maybe you can help. Their names are August Leonard Hermanni b. > 8/29/1831 and possibly from Germany and his wife Eleanora Pender b. > 11/15/1837. The only PENDER in the 1850 Wayne census is Wm born 1830 in Ireland Texas Twp household 33 - which I believe is a boarding house. A good bet is that Elenaore arrived from Ireland after 1850. The only HERMAN family is Fred et al in Canaan Twp household 308 The HARTMAN clan seems to be in Oregon Twp household 13/14/15 but there is no Karl/Carl They had 7 children and their names were August, Ferdinand, > Caroline, Eleanore, Johanna, Louis, and Edwin. One of their daughters > Eleanore married Karl Hartmann and he was from Damascus. Karl's parents > were Jacob and Helen (Herzog) Hartmann. August and Eleanora went to NE to > homestead around 1882. If you have any information on the Hermanni's that > would be great. I can't get back any farther than August and Eleanore so > far. Hope that helps Fred -- _-_|\ Frederick W. Myers [email protected] / \ 187 Mondurup St Mt Barker WA 6324 Australia \*.-._/ Perhaps your most distant relative :-) v http://www.dsdata.com.au/genealogy/nepa/

http://www.recordonline.com/neighbors/obituaries.html

Hi Sarah, The Times-Herald Record is online and has obituaries archived for over a year. You can try http://www.recordonline.com/archive/ (hope that works, if not try a search engine) and hopefully you will find it. Elaine Sarah wrote: > Hi all, > > I need an obituary from this October that was > published in the Times Herald Record. Which historic > societies and/or libraries have this newspaper? > > Thanks! > Sarah > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Wayne County, Pennsylvania web page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawayne/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

----- Original Message ----- From: "Grace Connell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE-L] German Church near Aldenville/Rosner > I had some relatives from the Damascus, PA area and I know they were > Lutheran. Maybe you can help. Their names are August Leonard Hermanni b. > 8/29/1831 and possibly from Germany and his wife Eleanora Pender b. > 11/15/1837. They had 7 children and their names were August, Ferdinand, > Caroline, Eleanore, Johanna, Louis, and Edwin. One of their daughters > Eleanore married Karl Hartmann and he was from Damascus. Karl's parents > were Jacob and Helen (Herzog) Hartmann. August and Eleanora went to NE to > homestead around 1882. If you have any information on the Hermanni's that > would be great. I can't get back any farther than August and Eleanore so > far. Thank you for your help. Also could you please tell me if there is a > town named Bath or is it Bath County in PA. Grace > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann O'Hara" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 8:04 AM > Subject: Re: [PAWAYNE-L] German Church near Aldenville/Rosner > > > > Janet, > > > > The cemetery where the Roseners (not Rosners) are buried is the Riverdale > or > > Riverview (I never can remember which it is) Cemetery in Mt. Pleasant > > Township. Since you didn't give us the names of your ancestors I couldn't > > look them up. Although there were churches in Pleasant Mount, Aldenville > > and elsewhere, to the best of my knowledge there was no church associated > > with that cemetery. Rural church records for that period are virtually > > non-existent, but if you tell us what names you are researching, perhaps > > someone has the information you're looking for. > > > > German immigrants came to Wayne County for many reasons and worked at many > > occupations. Some Germans worked at the very early glass factory in > Bethany > > or the later ones in Aldenville (this might be a clue), Honesdale, White > > Mills, etc. Others were butchers, merchants or canal and Gravity RR > > workers. And of course the major occupation in Wayne County was farming. > A > > look at the census will answer that question for your particular ancestor > > and his neighbors (although many men worked at other occupations - like > > lumbering, tanning, etc. and farmed at the same time but were enumerated > as > > simply "farmer"). > > > > There were German Lutheran and Catholic churches in Honesdale, but it > > appears from the names listed for this cemetery that it was mixed - that > is, > > while there are many German names there are also non-Germans buried there. > > > > Ann > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "janetthomas" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 1:39 AM > > Subject: [PAWAYNE-L] German Church near Aldenville/Rosner > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical Society > > 810 Main Street P.O. box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 (570)253-3240 > > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PAWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to visit the Wayne County Historical Society > 810 Main Street P.O. box 446 Honesdale, PA 18431 (570)253-3240 > [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 >

Grace: Bath is in Northamton County, just west of Allentown, PA. Lee Woodmansee