Well, that was speedy! I appreciate your responses. My father didn't know his paternal grandparents and my cousin says our grandfather didn't talk much at all let alone about his family. Their father died in the Civil War and they had a very hard time as 7 children were left. My grandfather was 3 yrs old and then there was a baby, Martha (Mattie) Crow Plants. Crow/e, Stollar, Plants, Sprowls, Moore, Ealy, Noble is our "roll call". By DNA we are supposedly the German species of Crow so there might be a language problem, also. There were Irish, English and German Crow families in Washington Co in the late 1700s. We have eliminated the Jacob Gro/Crow Richhill Twn, Greene Co PA line by DNA so that narrows the field considerably. I was just feeling that maybe there aren't any records before the 1850 Washington Co census which lists the family members and then the earlier census' that don't. Another question : ) What would you make of this "Supposed White" and "Native" on Phillip Crow. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=3363855&Type=Death Maybe we are of the "original" Crows!! Doris My cousin in PA is 94 and WISHES she had ask more questions as she knew all our cousins. I live in California so do my looking online. --- Ed Bickham <bick333@msn.com> wrote: > Why don't you post the info you are looking for on > this forum. may be someone with the information! > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doris > Greaves<mailto:doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> > To: > PAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:PAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:51 PM > Subject: Re: [PAWASHIN] Hypothetical Question > > > I have a hypothetical question for anyone or > everyone, > please! > I've been searching for my Paternal GGGrandparents > forever....I'm wondering if all the heads of > households of my ancestors were tenant farmers and > never owned any land would they have any records > anywhere. Would they be on tax lists and would > they > even have wills? Then, if they had no money, would > they even have had tombstones. > One knows they lived, I'm here! > I'm just frustrated...this must be the proverbial > "brick wall"! > Thanks, > Doris > **** > Please visit > http://www.chartiers.com/pages-new/pawashin.html<http://www.chartiers.com/pages-new/pawashin.html> > for list information, particularly the bottom of the > page. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > PAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Okay, back to the original question-- what are the earliest names you know? Do you have dates on them? Where did the CW vet live? Name? dates? There ***are*** records before 1850. First, if a person had no land, they still might be on Tax under married men -- if they owned a horse or cow. They were taxed on personal property-- animals were property. Second, if a person had no Will (intestate), they had an Adminstrator and an Account. Someone had to be paid for coffin and burial and even if nothing else is in it, these at least would be in an Account. If the person who died had youngins - minors - they probably had an Orphan's Court record and possibly a Guardian. Even with a widow alive, the court may have appointed a (male) guardian/relative. If the family was hard up, the kids could have been farmed out to relatives / close neighbors. Kind of poor kids slavery- you clean and do chores for bed and board. These are just some ideas. Judy On 11/8/07, Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Well, that was speedy! I appreciate your responses. > > My father didn't know his paternal grandparents and my > cousin says our grandfather didn't talk much at all > let alone about his family. Their father died in the > Civil War and they had a very hard time as 7 children > were left. My grandfather was 3 yrs old and then there > was a baby, Martha (Mattie) Crow Plants. Crow/e, > Stollar, Plants, Sprowls, Moore, Ealy, Noble is our > "roll call". > > By DNA we are supposedly the German species of Crow so > there might be a language problem, also. There were > Irish, English and German Crow families in Washington > Co in the late 1700s. We have eliminated the Jacob > Gro/Crow Richhill Twn, Greene Co PA line by DNA so > that narrows the field considerably. > > I was just feeling that maybe there aren't any records > before the 1850 Washington Co census which lists the > family members and then the earlier census' that > don't. > > Another question : ) What would you make of this > "Supposed White" and "Native" on Phillip Crow. > http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=3363855&Type=Death > > Maybe we are of the "original" Crows!! > Doris > > My cousin in PA is 94 and WISHES she had ask more > questions as she knew all our cousins. I live in > California so do my looking online.