The Social Security Death Index is still available for free at www.familysearch.org. I hope it stays free there. love Fern digging up the past for the future --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: mdicks5999@comcast.net To: pabutler@rootsweb.com; pawashin@rootsweb.com; pabeaver@rootsweb.com; palawren@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:30:18 +0000 Subject: [PAWASHIN] FYI on the Social Security Death Index For all those on the lists that use the SSDI on the Roots Web main page for free, it is no longer there. You can get it through Ancestry now for a fee. I googled it and their reasoning was due to the sensitivity of the material they were removing it from rootsweb. Just sharing.

For all those on the lists that use the SSDI on the Roots Web main page for free, it is no longer there. You can get it through Ancestry now for a fee. I googled it and their reasoning was due to the sensitivity of the material they were removing it from rootsweb. Just sharing.

Hi Art, I can help you with the Joseph Hill family connected with the Plum Run Old Side Baptist Church. I've done extensive research on that family. For a start you can go to my website www.beallsvillecemetery.org. There are more Hills buried in Beallsville Cemetery than any other surname. Also under the link to other miscellaneous cemeteries of Washington County, you will find 4 other Hill family cemeteries documented (one in Steubenville, Ohio). All of these Hills are related and come from Hillsbourough County Down Ireland. You can contact me directly at djhday@gmail.com and I'll see if I can help sort some of this out. Debbie

Hello, I am, Raymond Popp, President of the Rostraver Twp Historical Society. Joseph Hill, Jr. came to Rostraver Twp in 1754 with his slave and erected a cabin on what is called Speers Run located on Route 201 about 5 miles from the Monongahela River at present day Belle Vernon, PA. Later in the year or 1755 the Indians chased him home to Maryland. After General Forbes liberated Fort Duquesne and changed the name to Fort Pitt Jr came back to Rostraver Twp with his father and family. Two tracts of land were patented one in 1795 and one in 1796. The names on the patent were Joseph Hill and no mention if the first was Jr. or Sr.; however, the 1776 property RTHS knows for a fact that it belonged to Sr. as one of his daughters (Mary Hill) married a Phillip Shepler who migrated from Virginia (now WV, Hardy Co.). They had 8 children namely, Molly3, John3, James3, Amy3, Dibby3, Elizabeth3, Nancy3. Peter Shepler married Mary Hammond b. 1743 died in Allegheny Co, PA. Mathias Shepler(Shipley) married Margaret Houseman and they had 8 children namely John3, Phillip3, Abraham 3, Isaac3, Jacob3, Mary 3, Margaret3, Catherine Shepler3. Are buried in the Fellsburg Cemetery. I was born and raised on the farm adjacent to the Mathias Shepler Property and about 2 miles from the Joseph Hill, Sr. property. RTHS has placed a stone monument with a Granite Marker designating the original location of the Joseph Hill, Jr. Cabin. The name Isaac may have come from the knowledge of Mary Hill's line. Joseph Hill, Sr. brought along his slaves as the documents at a land sale had the list of the names of the slaves. RTHS, regrettably did not at that time have sufficient funds to purchase the items and some person from Maryland or Virginia was the beneficiary. I hope this will help you in your search. I would be interested in what you find out about the HILL genealogy. Also it was thought that Joseph Hill, Jr. bought propery across the Mononghela River in Speers Borough, Washington Co. however, RTHS cannot find proof and perhaps it can tie in with your investigation. Sincerely, Raymond Popp: President. p.s. RTHS is in the process of leasing the Historic Old Fells Methodist Church located in the Village of Fellsburg, Rostraver,Twp, Westmoreland Co. with a Belle Vernon post office address.

Does anyone know who holds the records for the Presbyterian Church in Burgettstown? Years ago, a phone call to the church told me that they no longer held the old records, but the obvious place (Presbyterian Historical Society in Philadelphia) doesn't seem to have them either. Thanks Bonz

Dear At, I don't know much about the families you mention, but are your aware of any your HILLs and MILLERs ending up in Monroe or Tuscarawas Counties Ohio? I have a William Hill born about 1770/1780 in most likely PA. I don't know where he lived in PA but suspect SW Pennsylvania. He left PA around 1810 coming to Tuscarawas County, OH. His son, also named William Hill, moved to Monroe County OH in 1830 where one of his children married the daughter of Abraham LOPER and Elizabeth MILLER and another married the son of Isaac BOOTH and Mary MILLER. Mary and Elizabeth MILLER were the children of John MILLER and Mary Eckenrote. I don't know much more but thought I would throw this out there in case anything was familiar. Rick Wilson In a message dated 12/9/2011 3:23:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pawashin-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 11:09:50 -0500 From: "Art Miller" <amiller44@bellsouth.net> Subject: [PAWASHIN] Hill and Miller families in Md., Pa. and Ky. To: "ZZ-Brethren Roots" <Brethren@rootsweb.com>, "ZZ-Frederick Co., Md." <MDFREDER@rootsweb.com>, "ZZ-Nelson Co., Ky." <Kynelson-l@rootsweb.com>, "ZZ-Marion Co., Ky." <Kymarion-l@rootsweb.com>, "ZZ-Washington Co., Pa." <Pawashin-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <FFD768F4DA4A42A48B758E435081A488@ArtPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I could use some help in sorting out various people named Joseph Hill noted in Pa., Md. and Ky. Also, I am trying to determine their possible relationship to my David Miller of Fayette/Washington Co., Pa. (noted here c1780-1793) and Nelson/Marion Cos., Ky. (here by 1796 and died here 1848). Specifically: >Joseph Hill born 1727 in Md. reportedly was the son of Isaac Hill who came to US in 1724. In 1767, Joseph settled near Prosperity in Washington Co., Pa. In 1788, he obtained a warrant for 353 acres on Ten Mile Creek. In 1803, the Plum Run Old Side Baptist Church (COB) was founded at home of Joseph Hill (Jr.?). These Hills appeared to be closely associated with William Miller who died 1802 in West Bethlehem Twp. ( I believe this William was related to my David Miller). Other Hills in West Bethlehem Twp. at that time were James, Thomas and William. >Joseph and John Hill were on 1795 tax list on Beech Creek in Nelson Co., Ky. and Atkinson Hill was there by 1800. These Hills could well have been sons of the Joseph Hill of Washington Co., Pa. This is supported by the interaction of this Joseph Hill with Jacob Miller (married Elizabeth Hill) who was son of William Miller who died 1802 in Washington Co., Pa. >A Joseph Hill was on 1772 and 1773 tax lists for Rostraver Twp. of Westmoreland Co., Pa. A Joseph Hill died 1807 in Rostraver Twp. >There was a Joseph Isaac Hill who in 1749 purchased 87 acres "Mountain Pass" in Frederick Co., Md. He reportedly was son of Henry Hill who apparently lived previously in Anne Arundel Co., Md. This Joseph Hill was in Mason Co., Ky. by 1790 and died there 1798. His sons Nathan and Thomas were also in Mason Co. My questions are: >To what extent are these various Joseph Hills related? >Did the connected Miller families migrate from Md. to Pa. to Ky. with these Hill families? >What other connections between the Hill and Miller families, especially in Md.? >Where was Joseph Isaac Hill located in Frederick Co., Md.? >Where was Isaac Hill in Md.? Was he related to Henry Hill? Any help with these issues would be greatly appreciated. Art Miller, Louisville

Great news in reference to getting better access to older Pennsylvania state birth and death certificates: Vital Records Bill SB-361 was unanimously passed by the Pennsylvania State General Assembly on December 6th and now goes to Governor Corbett's desk where he has 10 days to either sign or veto the bill. We cannot assume that he will sign it. Visits, phone calls, letters to his office are the most effective, but even a one paragraph email is better than nothing. Hearing from organizations and individuals (including out of state residents) could prove important in making sure Governor Corbett not only signs SB-361 into law but does all he can to see that the records are made available online. This is discussed in detail in the December 6th, 2011 article under The Latest News section of our website: http://users.rcn.com/timarg/PaHR-Access.htm (includes contact information and a sample letter for this bill to the Governor). As a reminder Vital Records Bill SB-361 is simple in that it just makes death certificates over 50 years old and birth certificates over 105 years old in Pennsylvania open records. It also requires the records be handed over to the Pennsylvania State Archives. This will cost the Commonwealth nothing to implement. Once the bill becomes law it would be then possible to have the records online. Without this change in the law the records will remain very restricted forever. Thank you for all your help.

I could use some help in sorting out various people named Joseph Hill noted in Pa., Md. and Ky. Also, I am trying to determine their possible relationship to my David Miller of Fayette/Washington Co., Pa. (noted here c1780-1793) and Nelson/Marion Cos., Ky. (here by 1796 and died here 1848). Specifically: >Joseph Hill born 1727 in Md. reportedly was the son of Isaac Hill who came to US in 1724. In 1767, Joseph settled near Prosperity in Washington Co., Pa. In 1788, he obtained a warrant for 353 acres on Ten Mile Creek. In 1803, the Plum Run Old Side Baptist Church (COB) was founded at home of Joseph Hill (Jr.?). These Hills appeared to be closely associated with William Miller who died 1802 in West Bethlehem Twp. ( I believe this William was related to my David Miller). Other Hills in West Bethlehem Twp. at that time were James, Thomas and William. >Joseph and John Hill were on 1795 tax list on Beech Creek in Nelson Co., Ky. and Atkinson Hill was there by 1800. These Hills could well have been sons of the Joseph Hill of Washington Co., Pa. This is supported by the interaction of this Joseph Hill with Jacob Miller (married Elizabeth Hill) who was son of William Miller who died 1802 in Washington Co., Pa. >A Joseph Hill was on 1772 and 1773 tax lists for Rostraver Twp. of Westmoreland Co., Pa. A Joseph Hill died 1807 in Rostraver Twp. >There was a Joseph Isaac Hill who in 1749 purchased 87 acres "Mountain Pass" in Frederick Co., Md. He reportedly was son of Henry Hill who apparently lived previously in Anne Arundel Co., Md. This Joseph Hill was in Mason Co., Ky. by 1790 and died there 1798. His sons Nathan and Thomas were also in Mason Co. My questions are: >To what extent are these various Joseph Hills related? >Did the connected Miller families migrate from Md. to Pa. to Ky. with these Hill families? >What other connections between the Hill and Miller families, especially in Md.? >Where was Joseph Isaac Hill located in Frederick Co., Md.? >Where was Isaac Hill in Md.? Was he related to Henry Hill? Any help with these issues would be greatly appreciated. Art Miller, Louisville

List,   The link below is for the Wash Reporter Newspaper, April 21, 1893.  Page 4, Cols 4 and 5, contain a Roster and Record of Company E, along with a brief chronicle of the soldier life of each volunteer!     http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=f1xuXVtw34IC&dat=18930421&printsec=frontpage&hl=en   Carole

Fellow Genealogists, As per "People for Better Pennsylvania Historical Records Access," SB-361 has one last important hurdle to pass before it becomes law, namely the signature of Governor Corbett. Here is what SB-361 would do: "make death certificates over 50 years old and birth certificates over 105 years old open records. It also transfers the certificates once they become open records to the Pennsylvania State Archives." This would make them available to be digitized and put online. Please contact Governor Corbett and express your support for this important bill. It would be awesome to even have an INDEX. We've all had the frustrastion of not being able to access/find records past 1905. http://users.rcn.com/timarg/PaHR-Access-ThisWeeksNews.htm#Nov%2017,%202011 Thanks, Bonnie Malmat Pennyslvania native, now living in Florida.

Looking for information on the Cemeteries in Marianna, Pa. Specifically the Russian Old Believers. Is their a listing on line of individuals buried and location of cemeteries.

Looking for POWEL/POWELL ancestors that might have died in Dickinson Township. Dickinson became Mifflin around 1789. What are the cemetery names that are known to have existed during that time period? TIA Mary Fran

My family is part ruthenian, but we are not Russian. It is an area in the Carpathian Mountains. Look it up on Wikipedia. it gives you more explanation. Virginianne@cox.net Virginia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cozmo71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.washington/3554.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am waiting on a name of the cemetery they are in. I know his one son Donald E. Jones and Hilda are buried in Horn Cemetery in Marianna pa. James T. Jones and Katherine Stillwagon Jones are in Lafayette cemetery in Brownsville pa. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Hello List, Snow on the ground and more falling so this is a perfect time for me to open up my family tree files and look for the "cold cases"! Hoping someone out there can help, and I am willing to share back. Looking for more on James Atcheson and wife Susan Hudson Atcheson. Found in 1850-1860-1870 census records in Union Twp., Washington county (living in or near Coal Center. Children: Mariah, married Henry ROBSON(his 2nd wife) John, married Eliza RIDDLE Hester/Esther, married Henry ROBSON Sarah, married George ROBSON [my direct line of descent] Samuel, married Martha CHESTER Anne, James, Emily, married unknown NEAL Malisa, Jane, Karen Souhrada karensouhrada@gmail.com http://souhrada.com/ Researching: Pennsylvania:..HAGERTY, ROBSON, ATCHESON,MC ALISTER, GEHO, WILLIAMS, BLANEY, MCCLUGAGE, HUDSON, JOBES Illinois.......HAMMANG/SOUHRADA; VALTA/KOUDELKA/ LIDINSKY; SORGMANN/KORDT; SOUHRADA/VOPICKA

Looking for the parentage of Liddy RIDDLE ATCHESON, who married John Atcheson the son of James and Susan HUDSON Atcheson. In census records, Liddy responds that she and parents were born Ohio, but from pension papers, it appears that she and future husband John Atcheson had been schoolmates together (in PA; presumably Washington County.) I am working my way through her husband's pension papers to find out more on her RIDDLE line. I see that a witness to her Washington Co. marriage was a David Riddell (? Brother) and Martha BOYD. Later when she is a widow (1920 Census: Arona Borough, Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania ) brother in law James Atcheson is living with her. Pension papers for service in Co. E 22nd PA Cavalry as Private; from mi 9/19/1862 in Monongahela, PA, to muster out at New Creek, W. Virginia on 7/19/1865 with company. PA Civil War File; Card # 5-188 for Atcheson, John; E-22 C (3 year ) [Co. E, 22nd Cavalry] Military Pension # 476402. The following information is for JOHN ATCHESON, as extracted from his pension records file, and subsequent widow's pension records, for his Union service during the Civil War. Name: JOHN ATCHESON Born: May 9, 1839 in Allegheny County, PA; Died: April 28, 1909 at Arona, Westmoreland Co., PA Enlistment: Monongahela City on the 19th day of September, 1862, as a private in Company 'D' 22nd Regiment Pennsylvania Cavalry; for term of 3 years; transferred to company 'E' of the 22nd PA Cavalry. Discharge: Honorably on 19th day of July 1865 at New Creek, W. Virginia. Physical Description At Time Of Enlistment: 5'9" tall, medium complexion, blue eyes, brown hair, and occupation listed as laborer. Wife's Name: ELIZA (LIDY) RIDDLE ATCHESON Marriage: at Columbia, Washington county, PA on January 1, 1867 by the Rev. R. R. Sutton; neither previously having been married, hence no impediment to the marriage. Marriage Witnessed by: DAVID RIDDLE and MARTHA BOYD RIDDLE. [In 1909 these marriage witnesses are again used as legal witness for LIDY ATCHESON for the pension request. The RIDDLE address is shown as Monesson, PA.] Other Pension Witnesses: GEORGE ROBSON, brother-in law; SARAH CLARINDA ATCHESON ROBSON, sister of JOHN; both residents in 1909 of Carrick, Allegheny County, PA [GEORGE ROBSON served with JOHN, as 1st Sergeant, Co. E, 22nd PA Cavalry during their service in the Civil War] Children of Marriage: [Eleven: ten living, one deceased] WILLIAM, b. 10/26/1867; IDA, b. 4/19/1870; LIZZIE, b. 4/13/1872; THOMAS, b. 5/2/1874 - deceased; JOHN, b. 4/11/1877; EVA, b. 2/14/1879; E-------(? Spelling), b. 3/15/1881; ALBERT, b. 5/24/1883; HOMER, b. 11/2/1885; VATIE, b. 7/26/1887; CURTIS, b. 5/24/1891 Also included was a report of his "roll call" status and locations, from the time of enlistment in 1862 to discharge in 1865. ------------------------------------- According to pension records, the marriage of 1.1.1867 was entered in the family bible, and certified by sight on August/1909. Married by R. R. Sutton, minister; witnessed by: David Riddell and Martha Boyd. Pension Records: Lidy Riddle Atcheson attests that neither she nor husband John had been previously married. This she knew personally as each had been friends since being schoolmates together. Affidavit witnessed by other ancestors (Sarah C. Atcheson Robson, and George Robson). [Pension file for veteran John Atcheson and his later widow Lidy Atcheson, shows actions on: 1888- invalid status for John (file# 677152) 1909- widow status for Lidy (file #919454)] --------------------------------------- Census Trail: 1860 Federal Census page 982, Union Twp., Washington county, PA Living with the FLENIGEN (?) family Atchison,John; as Atchison, 21 years of age, born in PA;, Farmer-Laborer [name appears to be John C.] ------------------ 1880 census:Source: Census Place Penn, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania ; Family History Library Film 1255203; NA Film Number T9-1203; Page Number 281D Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace John ATCHESON Self M Male W 38 PA Coal Miner PA PA Lida ATCHESON Wife M Female W 33 OH Keeping House OH OH William ATCHESON Son S Male W 12 PA PA OH Ida May ATCHESON Dau S Female W 10 MO PA OH Mary E. ATCHESON Dau S Female W 8 OH PA OH Thomas ATCHESON Son S Male W 6 PA PA OH John ATCHESON Son S Male W 4 PA PA OH Eva Jane ATCHESON Dau S Female W 1 PA PA OH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 1900 Census: Hempfield Twp., Westmoreland Co., PA entry # 6/6 Atcheson, John; head; born May 1838; age 62; married for 33 years; parents and self born PA; nocc. shown Atcheson, Sidar(Liddy?); wife; born (?) Mar. 1847; age 53; married for 33 years; mother of 11 children with 3 still living; parents and self born Ohio Atcheson, John S.; son, born April 1877; age 23, single, born PA; coal miner Atcheson, Eva J.; daughter, born Aoril 1879; age 21, single, born PA Atcheson, Alvin; son, born March 1881; age 19, single, coal miner, born PA Atcheson, Albertus; son, born May 1883, age 17, single, coal miner, born PA Atcheson, Joseph Homer; son; born Nov. 1885; age 14; coal miner, born PA Atcheson, Sidar N.; daughter; born July 1887; age 12, single, born PA Atcheson, David C.; son; born May 1891; age 9, born PA ------ 1920 Census: Arona Borough, Westmoreland Co., Pennsylvania Series: T625 Roll: 1665 Page: 203 Address: Mt. Pleasant-Clay Pipe (? street) [ Lidy Atcheson is now a widow] Atcheson, Mrs. Lidy; head of house; age 72; widow, born in PA Atcheson, Homer; age 35, son; Riddle, James; brother, age 77, widow Civil War Pension Information: John ATCHESON Served from Pennsylvania E Co. 22nd Cav Reg. PA Application Date: 30 October 1888 Relationship: Self Number: 677152 State: PA (Survivor information:) 06 May 1909 Relationship: Widow Name: Lidy Atcheson Number: 919484 State: PA ---------------------- 1910 census: Arnold Borough, Westmoreland Co., PA entry #83/86 Atcheson, Lidy; head;age 63; widow, mother of 11 children with 4 still living; parents and self born Ohio Atcheson, Homer; son; age 20, single, born PA; miner-coal mine ----- Census record: 1920 Arona Borough., Westmoreland Co., PA Series: T625 Roll: 1665 Page: 203 Address: Mt. Pleasant-Clay Pipe (? street); Arona Borough, Westmoreland Co., PA Atcheson, Mrs. Lidy; head of house; age 72; widow, born in PA Atcheson, Homer; age 35, son; Riddle, James; brother, age 77, widow

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: annwidmer Surnames: Goben/Gobin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.washington/1931.10.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for providing this information. Could you please look up the Gobin/Goben family? They lived in this area pre-revolution, and moved to Jefferson County/Kentucky by 1789. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cozmo71 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.washington/3554.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I will ask my Father Wesley L. Jones and if he does not know, his older sister might. will get back to you. Just out of curiosity, how are you in relation to Wesley and Iva Jones? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.