Sac and Fox Nation >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Sac and Fox Nation is the modern political entity encompassing the historical Sac and Fox nations of Native Americans. The tribes were always closely allied and speak very similar Algonquian languages, sometimes considered two dialects, instead of two languages. The Sac call themselves Asakiwaki (or Osakiwug) which means "people of the yellow earth" while the Fox call themselves Meshkwahkihawi meaning "people of the red earth". The tribe has multiple separate groups and reservations. The main group, the Sac and Fox of the Mississippi in Oklahoma moved to near Stroud, Oklahoma in 1869 where they have about 2500 members and an 800 acre (3.2 km²) reservation. A smaller group (called the Sac and Fox of the Mississippi in Iowa or the Meskwaki) returned to their Iowa lands where they now have about 700 members and 4,165 acres (16.854 km² / 6.507 sq mi) in Tama County, Iowa near the city of Tama. There was a resident population of 761 persons on the Sac and Fox/Meskwaki Indian Reservation at the 2000 census. The Sac and Fox Tribe of Missouri separated from the main band in the 1830's and has 360 members and a 61.226 km² (23.639 sq mi) tract in southeastern Richardson County, Nebraska and northeastern Brown County, Kansas, near Falls City, Nebraska. The Sac and Fox Indian Reservation had a resident population of 217 persons at the 2000 census. -----Original Message----- From: pagreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pagreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LJSLumpy@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:52 PM To: fox@rootsweb.com; PAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com; PAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAGRE] [FOX] FOX - INDIAN PRINCESS Hi There, No, I do not think there is not an Indian tribe called SAC in Pennsylvania? JOSEPH FOX (descendant of : JOHANNES PIETER FOX / FUCHS ) wife: was an INDIAN PRINCESS of the DELAWARE INDIANS, who called themselves LENI-LENAPE or simple called LENAPE, "THE PEOPLE" Unless of course the writer of: DULANY - FURLONG & KINDRED FAMILIES by the Geneologist: Roland Dulaney - Furlong, has mis-information on this ancestry. CARPE DIEM, Lori ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi Fuchs / Fox Clan, Someone had asked about an Indian married to a Fox? Thanks for that information, Lori. You know my interest in the Indian Princess, since it is in my line. I wonder if anyone out there is familiar with early PA history. In the introduction to the book History of Greene County, PA by Rev. William Hannah, there is a description of the early and purchases by Wm Penn in the creation of the original colony. While the famous "Elm Tree" treaty with the local Indians, the Leni-Lenapi (of the Delaware nation, is mentioned, this book says that Penn confirmed his contract with the Sachems and their tribe under the "Elm Tree" at Sackamaxon" now Kensington (Philadelphia). It seems odd that an Indian princess in the 1700s would have a surname, and I wonder if Emily Sac, who is listed as Joseph Fox’s first wife may be a shortened name for Sachem--does anyone know the origin of that word, or if that may indeed be correct? Karen-----Original Message----- From: pagreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pagreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LJSLumpy@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:22 PM To: pifox@earthlink.net; fox@rootsweb.com; PAGREENE-D@rootsweb.com; PAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PAGRE] FOX - INDIAN PRINCESSInformation from the DULANY - FURLONG & KINDRED FAMILIES by; Roland Dulany-Furlong BS, MG 1975 Years ago I had my Library get it for me on loan, can't remember what State they had to get it from? Having to return it I copied about 90 pages and returned book to Library. Wish I had a copy of the book to keep. This Book is primarily concerned with the genealogy of descendants of DENNIS DULANY, the s/o THOMAS DULANY, the immigrant, and his wife SARAH. Dennis Dulany was the progenitor of this surname in Western Pennsylvania and near by West Virginia. The Dulany's intermarried with the families of FOX, HAINES, HEADLEE, JOHN, LEMLEY, PITCOCK, SHRIVER & Others. Dennis Dulany knew all four grandparents and 2 great-grandparents, also many aunt, uncles, cousins and "in-laws". They gave him the facts and information which he recorded with the thought of writing a family history.. This information lay dormant until 20 January 1969, the day his first grandson was born that bore the name of FURLONG. On page 201 is the name: , JOSEPH FOX's & his first wife was an Indian Princess, EMILY SAC, of the Delaware's, who called themselves LENI-LENAPE or simply, " the people." WILLIAM PENN, in a treaty based on mutual trust, established good relations with the LENAPE Indians in his "Great Treaty" at Shackamaxon. CARPE DIEM, Lori ; ) in Arizona formally from Washington, PA. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

>From the1878 Cedar co History bk pg 726. Owen Wise farmer sec 7 Rochester twp. Born in Crawford co Ohio in 1839. His father, Henry Wise, was among the early settlers of Cedar co., came to Iowa in 1839. Married Catherine Barnard in 1862 she was born in Indiana in 1840. Have 6 children- Martin W, James E, Wilbur H, Hubert H, Lenora B, and Juliet. ****************************************************************************** ********************* Hello Wise Family, I also research the WISE FAMILY, I have JAMES WISE, b. abt. 1829, PA. f/o JACOB H. WISE, b. abt. 1855 in Amwell, Washington Co./, PA. m. LAURA BELL WIRT f/o NANNIE WIRT WISE, b. abt. 1884 in PA. m. ROBERT HOLLINGSWORTH ISEMAN (oil well driller) m/o IRENE BLANCE ISEMAN - MOUNTS b. 12 July 1906 in Claysville, PA. d. 14 Mar.1986 in Sun City ,AZ at the Boswell Memorial Hospital, Sun City, AZ. and buried @ Phoenix Memorial Cemetery, with same headstone of husband: WALTER ADAM MOUNTS. Parents of: ROBERT JAMES MOUNTS, RICHARD AND ALBERTA. 1860 census: Amwell, Washington Co., PA JAMES H. WISE (day laborer) Amwell, Washington Co. PA 30 yrs. old b. 1829 in PA. wife: SUSANNA, b. 1831in PA. 28 yrs. old son: SAMUEL WISE , b. 1853 in PA. 6 yrs. old son: JACOB WISE, b. 1855 in PA. 4 yrs. old. ( He was a farmer in the 1920 census, and in grocery sales & Real Estate Agent) son: WILLIAM, b. 1857 in PA. 2 yrs. old I'm looking for the father pf this JAMES WISE ? This blood line is also related to the SPROWLS through WALTER ADAM MOUNTS Some one out there can you help me find his father? CARPE DIEM, Lori ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

On 9/26/07, R. Carroll <jrc@bentcom.net> wrote: Rosalie, Could you check page 2 and tell me where the C.M.E. falls on this one? BUSH MARA, wf. Isiah d. 4-1869 66 C.M.E. Is C.M.E. a 2nd BUSH name, or is it at the end of Mara BUSH's line? I'm done with page 2 except for the above question. Judy

Hello, I am trying to find confirmation of a marriage date of 19 Jun 1792 for James ANDERSON & Mary STEWART. James Anderson was born in Chester Co., PA about 1762. Both James and Mary (Stewart) Anderson died in Washington Co., PA. I do not know where any of their children are born until the last child, Rebecca, was born in 1808 in Canton twp., Washington Co., PA. Since Washington Co. had been settled for a time before this marriage date (1792) I think it is possible they were married there. I'd like to know if it *might* be possible to find a confirmation of this date, either in Chester or Washington county. I have a date of marriage as 17 April 1823 for John (or another first name, possibly James or William) COWEN & Elizabeth ANDERSON. Elizabeth was the daughter of James Anderson & Mary Stewart. I think this marriage should be in Washington Co., but again no proof yet. I would appreciate any suggestions where else I might look for these. I have already done some checking in Washington county. I'm sorry I can't be more specific on where I looked. I didn't make a good note of that. But when I was there this summer I looked for Elizabeth Anderson Cowen's obit in Washington Co. with no success. She died or was buried 21 Mar 1875. I found a William COWEN & wife Elizabeth in Cross Creek twp, Washington Co., PA in the 1850 U.S. Census but I am not even sure this is my Elizabeth Anderson. I am including Chester Co. in my query because that is where James Anderson was from. Even if he had land in Washington County, he may have gone home to Chester to marry. Thanks, Laura

It appears to be the same book? I searched for Thomas McGary (my direct line, on maternal grandfather's side). He is listed under # 7 AND #8 here http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_dcresults.aspx?LastName=McGary&FirstName=&County=All&Year=All&PlusMinus=Exact&Search=Exact&NumRec=25 (2 line URL) On 9/27/07, myancestry@rogers.com <myancestry@rogers.com> wrote: > > Many WV deaths are recorded twice, in a death certificate and also in a > county ledger. Is this the duplication you mean? > > Deaths were reported to the county clerks beginning various dates > depending > on the county. Some go as far back as 1853. In 1917 the state of West > Virginia began issuing death certificates but for many years the deaths > were > still recorded in the county ledgers. The WV vital records site has both > (but not all records have been posted yet). >

Hi Rosalie, Even though the columns didn't line up, I was able to copy & paste it. If the List doesn't want the jumbled ones, maybe you could send the pages off-list and I'll put the info onto the website this weekend. I already have page 1 done. How many pages total, so I can make the webpages? Judy On 9/27/07, R. Carroll <jrc@bentcom.net> wrote: > > Judy, > When I looked at the material received by you through e-mail the columns > were all jumbled together. It is not the way I sent it. Computers are not > always accurate when using Outlook Express. If I wrote it out in sentence > form it would probably make more sense, but I tried to type it exactly the > way it was written. The column results via computer were not the same. If > you would like me to continue, I'll be glad to. However, it will probably > come through jumbled again. If this presents too much of a problem, please > let me know .Perhaps someone may find another copy at the Library and be > able to submit it with a better computer (and mail system). Sorry. > Rosalie > **** >

Many WV deaths are recorded twice, in a death certificate and also in a county ledger. Is this the duplication you mean? Deaths were reported to the county clerks beginning various dates depending on the county. Some go as far back as 1853. In 1917 the state of West Virginia began issuing death certificates but for many years the deaths were still recorded in the county ledgers. The WV vital records site has both (but not all records have been posted yet). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Florian" <cageycat@gmail.com> To: <Attitudeannie@aol.com> Cc: <pawashin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [PAWASHIN] WVA Death Certificates >I just wondered why 2 entries. Maybe the 2nd one from the Dr. was made > because the cause of death on the 1st one was wrong? strange. > > Judy > .html for list information, particularly the bottom of the page. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Judy and List, I am resending page 1. If this comes through jumbled again and difficult to understand, I'll have to discontinue with the rest of the five pages because of computer and e-mail delivery problems. Please let me know if it is not in column form and easy to understand. I do agree that the numbers at the end are probably ages and not sections. Rosalie .. Newkirk Cemetery I have a very poor copy of some of the census for Newkirk Cemetery located at the exit of Rt.70 to Bentleyville. The census was copied by Virginia Naser and Almetta Jones in July, 1965. I don't know either women so I can't provide any other info.. than what I send. Judy said this format would be fine; also, since the copy is bad, there may be a lot of spelling errors. However, if you see any correction, name or date, please send it. I'm not certain what the numbers are at the end of the line maybe some sections, maybe some ages. Thanks, Rosalie NEWKIRK CEMETERY.....EXIT 70 /BENTLEYVILLE ....................................... CRAWFORD JAMES B. 4-13-1897 D. 1897 BABY ALPHEUS B. 1839 D. 1911 PVT.140 REG. PA. VOL. GRABLE CHARLES B. D. 12-19-1871 17.11.15 ABEL B. 1802 D. 9-28-1888 86. MOTHER, SISTER, AND FATHER HEADSTONES HERE. JONES JOHN LINCOLN B. 2-8-1861 D, 3-3-1892 JAMES B. 7-15-1819 D. 8-23-1886 MARIA B.11-10-1827 D. 11-18-1864 SAMUEL B. 1831 D. 7-16-1841 40. PVT. CO.F. 18 REG.PA.CAL. JOHN B. 1790 D. 7-16-1875 85.2.13 MCELHINNEY LIZZIE M. D. 10-28-1883 31.1.20 (Stone next to John L. Jones) Last name very difficult to read. BUFFINGTON MARY REBECCA DAU. OF A.J. -E.T. D. 3-29-1880 19. NEWKIRK CYRUS D. 11-17-1850 52. SARAH B. 3-29-1803 D. 5-9-1898 EMILY D. 6-30-1876 33. RHODA D. 1-29-1860 eroded HOWDEN HARRIET JANE (A.T.) D. 2-28-1870 20. LITTLE QUIPPY 4 years ALLAZUIPPA B. 8-16-1861 D. 5-25-1889 WEST MARY, WF. OF EDWARD D. 11-121873 64.5.8 EDWARD B. 2-28-1804 D. 1-1-1883 NEWKIRK HARVEY OF GM-SM D. 5-181822 5 YRS. MARIA, WF. OF GEO.W. 1797 D. 3-28-1879 82 GEORGE W. B. 1796 D. 6-18-1846 50 JAMES OF JS-L D. 3-12-1875 3 YRS. LUELIA B. OF JS-L D. 3...1863 21 DOROTHEA D. 4-13-1863 21 NANCY HOPKINS NEWKIRK B. 1829 D. 1922 CHARLES OF ..A- D. 2-12-1854 0.3-20 CROUCH NESBIT D. 4-2-1870 22 CONRAD JOHN B. 1797 D. 5-28-1868 71 CATHERINE B. 1800 D. 7-28-1869 (9.) wife of John Submitted by: Rosalie Carroll **** Please visit http://www.chartiers.com/pages-new/pawashin.html for list information, particularly the bottom of the page. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Washington County PA Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 09/25/2007 8:02 AM

Judy, When I looked at the material received by you through e-mail the columns were all jumbled together. It is not the way I sent it. Computers are not always accurate when using Outlook Express. If I wrote it out in sentence form it would probably make more sense, but I tried to type it exactly the way it was written. The column results via computer were not the same. If you would like me to continue, I'll be glad to. However, it will probably come through jumbled again. If this presents too much of a problem, please let me know .Perhaps someone may find another copy at the Library and be able to submit it with a better computer (and mail system). Sorry. Rosalie

I just wondered why 2 entries. Maybe the 2nd one from the Dr. was made because the cause of death on the 1st one was wrong? strange. Judy On 9/26/07, Attitudeannie@aol.com <Attitudeannie@aol.com> wrote: > > Judy, > > One of the first lessons taught to me by my genealogy mentor was A death > certificate is only as accurate as the memory and/or knowledge of > the person > supplying the information. It is a good reference but it doesn't always > contain true data. > > Leana > >

So true Laura, unfortunately, but true. Judy On 9/26/07, LNMallett@aol.com <LNMallett@aol.com> wrote: > > Judy, > > One of the first lessons taught to me by my genealogy > mentor was A death > certificate is only as accurate as the memory and/or knowledge of the > person > supplying the information. It is a good reference but it doesn't always > contain true data. > > Leana > > Boy did I get a laugh when I read this one. Not only memory and knowledge > are things to be aware of but TRUTH is another thing. People do lie about > facts. > They will say they are the parent on a birth certificates, knowing they > are > not blood kin. I had to live in this situation and there wasn't anything > that > could be done about the situation. An attorney told me when my > grandfather > died, that if a person puts his name on a birth certificate, that child > is > his. All the children that are actually blood kin children have to share > everything with that child, if there is a death. Genealogy is what you > make of it. > No one knows for sure "except for the parents." Hopefully you have a > family > that tells the truth. I personally feel that every baby should have a > mandatory > DNA test to show proof who they truly are. Never knowing who you are is > horrible. Just the thought that a life could be saved by the truth means > everything to me. If a blood parent has heart problems in their family, > or other > health problems and that child is never told about these conditions and > could > have corrected their health problems by this knowledge, how would you > feel if > you were in that situation. I'd be very upset. My life is more > important to > me. I think I know who I am, but there are some that find out later > in life > that the truth wasn't told and they never got the opportunity to find > their > blood kin. Some people fear the truth, some just can't tell the truth, > some > people are threatened and are afraid to tell the truth. Some people are > just mean. > Don't mean to be saying all people lie. Some families are so close, caring > and loving that they just can't imagine how people can be so dishonest for > any > reason. Believe me, it happens. > Now I know there are babies that are adopted every day. DNA hasn't always > been around. I know there are bad people out there that should never be > parents. > Just keep an open mind when you do your tree. Just when you think you know > everything about your family this is when someone says, Oh, didn't you > know > that the baby was conceived while the father was at war...Oops...no wonder > the > baby has brown eyes. In our family we all have blue eyes. > I love genealogy. I love sharing my finds. It is great hobby. I've met > some > wonderful cousins thru my Pa. sharing. Through all the troubles I had as a > child, I learned early in life to have an open mind. I hope I've helped > someone > along the way to find their roots. > > > Laura N. Mallett, GRI > _www.lauramallett.net_ (http://www.lauramallett.net/) and > _www.lauramallett.com_ (http://www.lauramallett.com/) > These sites are continually changing > Updated for Aug. 2007 > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > **** > Please visit http://www.chartiers.com/pages-new/pawashin.html for list > information, particularly the bottom of the page. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Washington County PA Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

Hi Rosalie and List, First Rosalie, thank you. The list will be on the website before the weekend. A couple comments, to help people who see this list in the archives.... and for anyone transcribing a cemetery... First, using capital letters for born (B.) and died (D.) makes it soooooo confusing. Is the entry Smith, Mary B. or is it Smith, Mary (Born). So I got those all figured out. But, it's always clearer to write out the words born and died. Second, I'm pretty sure the numbers at the end are a shorthand for AGES. Again, a confusing shorthand, and too many people could think it is GPS or something nowadays. It's always better to use standard abbreviations for "mo. da. yr. -- or yr. mo. da." Here are the numbers with dots at the end or between. Other AGES had no dots so those were more clearly ages. I did not list those here. These are the ones that might be confusing:: Someone tell me if these agree with birth and death years 17.11.15 = age 17 yrs 11 mos 15 days 40. == 40 yrs. 85.2.13 = age 85 yrs, 2 mos, 11 days 31.1.20 = age 31 yrs, 1 mo., 20 days (Stone next to John L. Jones) 19. = age 19 52. = age 52 33. = age 33 20. = age 20 64.5.8 = 64 yrs, 5 mos, 8 days 0.3-20 = zero yrs, 3 months, 20 days. (9.) [Note: Looking at dates, did transcriber mean aged 69, maybe the '6' was illegible? Is this why it is in paranthesis? ( ).] Birth 1800, deth 1869 Judy Florian On 9/26/07, R. Carroll <jrc@bentcom.net> wrote: > > Newkirk Cemetery > I have a very poor copy of some of the census for Newkirk Cemetery located > at the exit of Rt.70 to Bentleyville. > The census was copied by Virginia Naser and Almetta Jones in July, > 1965. I don't know either women so I can't provide any other info.. than > what I send. Judy said this format would be fine; also, since the copy is > bad, there may be a lot of spelling errors. However, if you see any > correction, name or date, please send it. > I'm not certain what the numbers are at the end of the line maybe some > sections, maybe some ages. > > Thanks, > Rosalie > > NEWKIRK CEMETERY.....EXIT 70 /BENTLEYVILLE > ....................................... > CRAWFORD JAMES B. > 4-13-1897 D. 1897 BABY > > ALPHEUS B. 1839 D. 1911 > PVT.140 REG. PA. VOL. > > GRABLE > CHARLES B. D. 12-19-1871 > 17.11.15 > > ABEL B. 1802 D. > 9-28-1888 86. > MOTHER, SISTER, AND FATHER > HEADSTONES HERE. > > JONES JOHN LINCOLN B. > 2-8-1861 D, 3-3-1892 > JAMES B. > 7-15-1819 D. 8-23-1886 > MARIA > B.11-10-1827 D. 11-18-1864 > SAMUEL > B. 1831 D. 7-16-1841 40. > PVT. CO.F. 18 REG.PA.CAL. > JOHN > B. 1790 D. 7-16-1875 85.2.13 > > MCELHINNEY LIZZIE > M. D. > 10-28-1883 31.1.20 > (Stone next to John L. > Jones) Last name very difficult to read. > > BUFFINGTON MARY REBECCA DAU. OF A.J. -E.T. D. > 3-29-1880 19. > > NEWKIRK CYRUS > D. 11-17-1850 52. > SARAH B. > 3-29-1803 D. 5-9-1898 > > EMILY D. > 6-30-1876 33. > > RHODA D. > 1-29-1860 eroded > > HOWDEN HARRIET JANE (A.T.) > D. 2-28-1870 20. > LITTLE > QUIPPY 4 years > ALLAZUIPPA B. > 8-16-1861 D. 5-25-1889 > > WEST MARY, WF. OF > EDWARD D. 11-12-1873 64.5.8 > EDWARD B. > 2-28-1804 D. 1-1-1883 > > NEWKIRK HARVEY OF > GM-SM D. 5-18-1822 > 5 YRS. > MARIA, WF. OF GEO.W. > 1797 D. 3-28-1879 82 > GEORGE W. B. > 1796 D. 6-18-1846 50 > JAMES OF > JS-L D. > 3-12-1875 3 YRS. > LUELIA B. OF > JS-L D. > 3...1863 21 > > DOROTHEA D. > 4-13-1863 21 > NANCY HOPKINS NEWKIRK B. > 1829 D. 1922 > CHARLES OF > ..A- > D. 2-12-1854 0.3-20 > > CROUCH NESBIT D. > 4-2-1870 22 > > CONRAD JOHN > B. 1797 D. 5-28-1868 71 > > CATHERINE B. 1800 D. > 7-28-1869 (9.) > wife of John > > Submitted by: > Rosalie Carroll > **** > Please visit http://www.chartiers.com/pages-new/pawashin.html for list > information, particularly the bottom of the page. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Washington County PA Websites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

Judy, One of the first lessons taught to me by my genealogy mentor was A death certificate is only as accurate as the memory and/or knowledge of the person supplying the information. It is a good reference but it doesn't always contain true data. Leana Boy did I get a laugh when I read this one. Not only memory and knowledge are things to be aware of but TRUTH is another thing. People do lie about facts. They will say they are the parent on a birth certificates, knowing they are not blood kin. I had to live in this situation and there wasn't anything that could be done about the situation. An attorney told me when my grandfather died, that if a person puts his name on a birth certificate, that child is his. All the children that are actually blood kin children have to share everything with that child, if there is a death. Genealogy is what you make of it. No one knows for sure "except for the parents." Hopefully you have a family that tells the truth. I personally feel that every baby should have a mandatory DNA test to show proof who they truly are. Never knowing who you are is horrible. Just the thought that a life could be saved by the truth means everything to me. If a blood parent has heart problems in their family, or other health problems and that child is never told about these conditions and could have corrected their health problems by this knowledge, how would you feel if you were in that situation. I'd be very upset. My life is more important to me. I think I know who I am, but there are some that find out later in life that the truth wasn't told and they never got the opportunity to find their blood kin. Some people fear the truth, some just can't tell the truth, some people are threatened and are afraid to tell the truth. Some people are just mean. Don't mean to be saying all people lie. Some families are so close, caring and loving that they just can't imagine how people can be so dishonest for any reason. Believe me, it happens. Now I know there are babies that are adopted every day. DNA hasn't always been around. I know there are bad people out there that should never be parents. Just keep an open mind when you do your tree. Just when you think you know everything about your family this is when someone says, Oh, didn't you know that the baby was conceived while the father was at war...Oops...no wonder the baby has brown eyes. In our family we all have blue eyes. I love genealogy. I love sharing my finds. It is great hobby. I've met some wonderful cousins thru my Pa. sharing. Through all the troubles I had as a child, I learned early in life to have an open mind. I hope I've helped someone along the way to find their roots. Laura N. Mallett, GRI _www.lauramallett.net_ (http://www.lauramallett.net/) and _www.lauramallett.com_ (http://www.lauramallett.com/) These sites are continually changing Updated for Aug. 2007 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Newkirk Cemetery census transcribed by Virginia Naser and Almetta Jones, July 1965. Located Rt. 70 Exit -Bentleyville, Wash. Co. Difficult to read, please send corrections if noted. Rosalie NEWKIRK CEMETERY CARRELL MINA, da.F & R (?) d. 1831 7.3.0 MOSS MARTHA d. 1862 30.2.0 VANEMON OF MF -ME (?) JANETTIO or Jonettio? d. 2-12-1865 5.4.5. CLARK d. 3-2-1860 0.1.9 SPROWLS HIRAM OF L. & M. (?) d. 11-30-1854 2 yrs. EAGYE ALMANO, DAU. D. 1851 49 SIMON D. 1861 eroded BUSH MARA, wf. Isiah d. 4-1869 66 C.M.E. NEWKIRK CYRUS OF S& C B. 1848 D. 1859 BERGER JAMES eroded CLARK W. eroded MCMILLIAN ELIZABETH w/f Robert d. 5-9-1863 58 LEANDER D. 6-28-1875 57. 4. 13 WITHROW REBECCA , w/f B. 1791 D. 6-21-1878 87 SAMUEL B. 1795 D. 2-27-1870 85.5.0 MCCLAREN* not sure of name THOMAS B. 1842 D. 1916 civil war marker MCMILLAN ELIZABETH B. 1813 D. 1865 wife of Robert ROBERT B. 1833 D. 1896 JOHNSON DORA D. 1885 HETHERINGTON SARAH B. 5-23-1819 D. 7-26-1894 ELIZABETH B. 1842 D. 1918 EVALINE D. 1855 18. MARGARET ................................. Submitted by: Rosalie Carroll

Newkirk Cemetery I have a very poor copy of some of the census for Newkirk Cemetery located at the exit of Rt.70 to Bentleyville. The census was copied by Virginia Naser and Almetta Jones in July, 1965. I don't know either women so I can't provide any other info.. than what I send. Judy said this format would be fine; also, since the copy is bad, there may be a lot of spelling errors. However, if you see any correction, name or date, please send it. I'm not certain what the numbers are at the end of the line maybe some sections, maybe some ages. Thanks, Rosalie NEWKIRK CEMETERY.....EXIT 70 /BENTLEYVILLE ....................................... CRAWFORD JAMES B. 4-13-1897 D. 1897 BABY ALPHEUS B. 1839 D. 1911 PVT.140 REG. PA. VOL. GRABLE CHARLES B. D. 12-19-1871 17.11.15 ABEL B. 1802 D. 9-28-1888 86. MOTHER, SISTER, AND FATHER HEADSTONES HERE. JONES JOHN LINCOLN B. 2-8-1861 D, 3-3-1892 JAMES B. 7-15-1819 D. 8-23-1886 MARIA B.11-10-1827 D. 11-18-1864 SAMUEL B. 1831 D. 7-16-1841 40. PVT. CO.F. 18 REG.PA.CAL. JOHN B. 1790 D. 7-16-1875 85.2.13 MCELHINNEY LIZZIE M. D. 10-28-1883 31.1.20 (Stone next to John L. Jones) Last name very difficult to read. BUFFINGTON MARY REBECCA DAU. OF A.J. -E.T. D. 3-29-1880 19. NEWKIRK CYRUS D. 11-17-1850 52. SARAH B. 3-29-1803 D. 5-9-1898 EMILY D. 6-30-1876 33. RHODA D. 1-29-1860 eroded HOWDEN HARRIET JANE (A.T.) D. 2-28-1870 20. LITTLE QUIPPY 4 years ALLAZUIPPA B. 8-16-1861 D. 5-25-1889 WEST MARY, WF. OF EDWARD D. 11-12-1873 64.5.8 EDWARD B. 2-28-1804 D. 1-1-1883 NEWKIRK HARVEY OF GM-SM D. 5-18-1822 5 YRS. MARIA, WF. OF GEO.W. 1797 D. 3-28-1879 82 GEORGE W. B. 1796 D. 6-18-1846 50 JAMES OF JS-L D. 3-12-1875 3 YRS. LUELIA B. OF JS-L D. 3...1863 21 DOROTHEA D. 4-13-1863 21 NANCY HOPKINS NEWKIRK B. 1829 D. 1922 CHARLES OF ..A- D. 2-12-1854 0.3-20 CROUCH NESBIT D. 4-2-1870 22 CONRAD JOHN B. 1797 D. 5-28-1868 71 CATHERINE B. 1800 D. 7-28-1869 (9.) wife of John Submitted by: Rosalie Carroll

Hi there, Virginia Naser has been deceased for many years & I'm sure Almetta Gay has also. Virginia was a member of the Daughters of American Colonists when I first joined back about 1970/71. I would think a good copy of this should be in the Citizen's Library & I would not suggest anyone go to Newkirk to copy it now because so many of the stones would be in much worse shape or gone by now. I have passed there often myself in recent times.

Judy, One of the first lessons taught to me by my genealogy mentor was A death certificate is only as accurate as the memory and/or knowledge of the person supplying the information. It is a good reference but it doesn't always contain true data. Leana ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

In case anyone collects Fox obits, I added one for *1949 Elder Franklin Clay FOX Obituary, Minister 50 years at Beaver Dam German Baptist (Dunkard) Church, Beaver Dam Frederick Co Maryland * Can find it from this page also: http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.com/~florian/church-of-the-brethren/index.htm I keep the Fox emails, hoping I'll better understand my Fox connection. Judy On 9/26/07, Karen Hoy <kbhoy@comcast.net> wrote: > > I have some information on Joseph Fox, mentioned below, b. 1758, d. 1847 > in > Perry, Greene County, which may be helpful. There's some discrepancy > about > the number of marriages. Some say that there was an "Indian" wife, and > that > there were children from that marriage. Others say Joseph's first wife > was > Jenny or Jane Wilson. Jenny died in 1834. Their children were Martin, b. > 1790; Isaac, b. 1793; Mary, Rebecca, Elizabeth, John, b. 1800, James > Wilson, > b. 1803 and Charity. Joseph married a woman named Elsey Haines in 1837, > and > this is recorded in his Revolutionary War pension. Joseph and Elsey are > recorded in the 1840 census in Greene County, PA. Joseph died in 1847, > and > Elsey received pension benefits from Joseph's service. She applied for > bounty land from his service in 1855 > > ["Declaration of Joseph Fox," Joseph Fox Pension No. W7292, U. S. > Revolutionary > War Service, War Department Collection of Revolutionary War Records > (Record > Group 93), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C > .]. > > I am not certain of Joseph's parents, (with all the Fuchs/Foxes) and > Joseph's son John b. 1800 married a Catherine Fox b. 1801. Does anyone > know > which Fox family Catherine was a member of? > > Karen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pagreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pagreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of LJSLumpy@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:35 PM > To: EEP1041@aol.com; FOX@rootsweb.com; PAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com; > PAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com; PENNSYLVANIA@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PAGRE] JOHANNES PIETER FUCHS FAMILY LINE Sept. 24. 2007 > >

I have some information on Joseph Fox, mentioned below, b. 1758, d. 1847 in Perry, Greene County, which may be helpful. There's some discrepancy about the number of marriages. Some say that there was an "Indian" wife, and that there were children from that marriage. Others say Joseph's first wife was Jenny or Jane Wilson. Jenny died in 1834. Their children were Martin, b. 1790; Isaac, b. 1793; Mary, Rebecca, Elizabeth, John, b. 1800, James Wilson, b. 1803 and Charity. Joseph married a woman named Elsey Haines in 1837, and this is recorded in his Revolutionary War pension. Joseph and Elsey are recorded in the 1840 census in Greene County, PA. Joseph died in 1847, and Elsey received pension benefits from Joseph's service. She applied for bounty land from his service in 1855 ["Declaration of Joseph Fox," Joseph Fox Pension No. W7292, U. S. Revolutionary War Service, War Department Collection of Revolutionary War Records (Record Group 93), National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.]. I am not certain of Joseph's parents, (with all the Fuchs/Foxes) and Joseph's son John b. 1800 married a Catherine Fox b. 1801. Does anyone know which Fox family Catherine was a member of? Karen -----Original Message----- From: pagreene-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pagreene-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LJSLumpy@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:35 PM To: EEP1041@aol.com; FOX@rootsweb.com; PAGREENE-L@rootsweb.com; PAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com; PENNSYLVANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PAGRE] JOHANNES PIETER FUCHS FAMILY LINE Sept. 24. 2007 Hi Cuz, Thanks for all that additional information, I didn't know the maiden name of our ANNA MARGARETHA (JAEGER) wife of JOHANES PIETER FUCHS. Yes, I agree there does seem to be 2 men sailing to America (possibly 3) ? in the same year by the name of JOHN / JOHAN / JOHANES PIETER FUCHS. And good possibility there were many other family members accompanying them, and one's children could have been listed as another family members child? I'm please that you mentioned the names of JOSEPH, GEORGE & JARRETT FUCHS / FOX. For there have been many requests for these names over the years, seeking information. CARPE DIEM, Lori.....................and thanks again for the valuable information. From: EEP1041@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:28:27 -0400 Subject: Fwd: JOHANNES PIETER FUCHS FAMILY LINE Sept. 24. 2007 To: EJ1041@hotmail.com Hi again, Cuz, Thanks for the data. Seems I'm learning so much more about our folks. There seemed to be two men by the name of John Peter Fox, who arrived at NY in 1710. One of them had with him a wife, Anna Maria Salbach, and two children: Johann Jacob and Johann Nicolas. Our John's wife was, of course, Anna Margaretha (Jaeger)The report I found for him doesn't show any children, and I can't figure why unless they accompanied some other family member. Anyway, John Peter Fox II was born in New Jersey in 1720, and he married Elsie Tate, b. abt. 1720 also. Joseph Newton Fox was born in Morris, NJ in 1758 and was a soldier in the Revolutionary War; d. in 1834, and is buried in Greene Co. Pa. Our line goes on from there to Martin Peter Fox I, b. 1790 in Greene Co. Pa. A son of his, Martin Peter Fox II went to Monongahela Co, Va and settled there. So, there were several children for Joseph, and I guess they branched out to other places. Do you have any info on Johann Phillip Fuchs, b. around 1650 in Germany? I found in one source that he could be the dad to our John Peter Fox I, since Christoffel was John Phillip's dad, and they emigrated at the same time. Thanks and God Bless you and yours. Carolyn Perry