ah ha - lesson learned - looks like rootsweb does not allow BOLD TYPE - so sorry for a confused message - (just compare my message to the one you received from Judy ) ruth

Here is the link that takes you to the page that lists all records for PA. -once you locate the info you need, click on the link and it will give you the film number. good luck, Ruth http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/rg/frameset_rg.asp?DEST=BD&Aid=882&Gid=0&Lid=345&Sid=377&Sisgid=11661&Year=733&Gloss=Death%20Record&Sub=Vital%20records&Tab=Search&Entry=3&Event=Death&Guide=US_BDT3_Government_Births_and_Deaths.asp

will answer in bold throughout Judys message - Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Florian To: Ruth Sprowls Cc: PAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [PAWASHIN] Jessie - missing child of Obadiah Sprowls - died Nov. 1880 Was he/she in a hospital? Some "patients" were so ill or no one could give care that the person was placed in the county home. County Home record book ledger WAS in the Law Library. I have this on my list of to do's for my next trip back to Washington. Was he/she visiting or living with a relative? Just for fun (lol) have you checked all the relatives you can think of? Anyone out of the area? have not found Jesse/Jessie with any local Sprowls family. Not aware of anyone out of the area. Is there a County death record? On one of my curt house visits I recorded all family deaths from the death ledger book and no Jesse. But will double check - checked all spellings? 1 L, 2 L "ou" and "ow" maybe single "o" and double "oo" (heck, at least the "sp" part will always be the same LOL) yep- checked all spellings - even did search of 1st name with no surname, got nothing. Even searched mortality schedule with no names and requesting ALL deaths for Wash. Co. with birth year 1873 < > 5 years - no Jesse or anything close. born ? Oct. 11, 1873... hmmm not much help huh? did their church do baby baptisms? Not even sure what church that would have been - have not found any records that ever mentioned a church for this family. hmmm No idea of cemetery? thought it would have been Newkirk - but not there - but will double check again. Judy THANK YOU JUDY - Ruth On 10/7/07, Ruth Sprowls <sprowls@ncweb.com> wrote: I need some guidance from my friends - I am back at work on another child of Obadiah Sprowls. I have a copy of the black funeral card for Jessie Manerod Sprowls - below name on the card it has : died Nov. 18, 1880 aged 7 yrs. 1 month 7 days NOW - 1880 census for Somerset Twp., Obadiah is listed at ancestry.com as OLE SPOLL - there is no child listed as Jessie in this census. 2nd - normal spelling of Jessie is for FEMALES - Jesse is for MALES - I was told by my husbands cousin that Jessie was a son - BUT I have proven him wrong in other instances. 3rd - MANEROD - have done many google searches and other searches for this "name" and zero results - I "think" that IF Jessie was a male, it could possibly be a misprint / mispelling of Maynard (?). And IF Jessie is female, that doesn't jive - female Jessie Maynard? 4 - Most of Obadiahs family is in Newkirk cemetery - but no Jessie / Jesse - (possibly buried on the family farm ?) 5- I checked the mortality schedule for 1880 - regular census was done in June 4, 1880 - and found nothing for Jessie - Jesse - or anythng that looks like it could be him/her. Only Sprowls was an Edith. And nothing mispelled that could be Sprowls. But if done in June and Jessie didn't die til Nov., the child SHOULD have been with the family. But knowing the secretiveness of this darn family the child could be ANYWHERE - ANY IDEAS AS TO WHERE TO LOOK OR WHAT TO DO NEXT? NOW - WHAT or where do I check next? Anyone have any records that shows a Jesse/Jessie Sprowls who died in Nov. 1880???? Thanks everyone for any leads or suggestions. Ruth Sprowls

I saw on this web site http://www.chartiers.com/pages-new/vital.html#deaths where LDS had microfilmed the death records and could be rented. In order to rent this microfilm I must provided a microfilm number. I couldn't locate that number or film name on LDS's web site. Have any of ya'll rented this microfilm and if so could you tell me how you found the microfilm? Thank you. Lona Laughlin Boudreaux Monroe, La

So sorry, these obits came from the January 26, 1917 McDonald PA Record. The correct spelling is BERMEN, not BERMAN as I put in the heading.

Cecil Township is experiencing at the present time a great boom in building. Twenty-five new houses are being built at Bishop, twenty-five at Pitco, fifty at Henderson and a large number at East Canonsburg. Since the explosion at Henderson, a great many families have moved from that place; however others are coming to take their place.

MCCLAIN, BROCKMAN, QUINN, YATES, NICHOLS, WILSON, ANDREWS, MCCOY, BERMAN Mrs. Margaret MCCLAIN died at five o'clock Tuesday morning, January 23, 1917, at the home of her son, Daniel MCCLAIN, at Reissing, of dropsy. She was in her 79th year. She is survived by four sons: Daniel of Reissing, Robert of McDonald, James of Venice and George of Canonsburg. Funeral services were held Wednesday evening at the home of her son, Robert MCCLAIN, 229 Arabella street, McDonald. Interment took place Thursday at Kittanning. Frank BROCKMAN, aged 2 months and 25 days, son of Mr. and Mrs. Charles C. BROCKMAN of Saxonburg, Pa., died on Wednesday, January 17, 1917. The child was in good health on Tuesday but was found dead on Wednesday morning, having died between one and six o'clock that morning. When first discovered it was thought the child had smothered. Dr. W. W. LASHIER of Saxonburg was called and Coroner J. Charles DENGLER was notified. The investigation conducted showed that the child had died from pneumonia contracted during the night. Besides the parents he is survived by two brothers, James and William. Interment was made in the Summit cemetery. Mr. and Mrs. BROCKMAN were formerly of Midway. Administrator's Notice: Estate of Mrs. Annie QUINN, deceased of Cherry Valley, Pa. Thomas MULLIGAN, Administrator, McDonald, Pa. *No obit found Card of Thanks: Charles YATES thanks friends and neighbors for their help at the death of his wife, Margaret. They lived in Sturgeon, Pa. It is dated January 24, 1917. Mr. and Mrs. Robert FENWICK, Mr. and Mrs. Claude MCGEE and Mrs. John T. PATTERSON attended the funeral of their nephew, Andrew NICHOLS, at Brownsville on Wednesday. *Sturgeon column Samuel WILSON, son of Mr. and Mrs. James C. WILSON, died at his home at 4:50 o'clock Friday evening, January 19, 1917, after an illness of pneumonia. He was 9 years and 3 months old. He is survived by his parents, three sisters and three brothers: Mrs. Glen BLACKWOOD and Mrs. Edward MELLOR of Monongahela, Ronald, James, Martha and Warren at home. Funeral services were held at the home Monday afternoon. Interment was in the Center cemetery. *Midway column Those from here who attended the funeral of Mr. Edward ANDREWS, Sr., of New England, were Mr. and Mrs. Edward ANDREWS and family, Mrs. Harriet DUNKS and son Bennie, Mrs. Annie FELTON and daughter Bertha, and Miss Martha Ann KENDALL. *Midway column Mrs. Martha MCCOY and family, Mrs. Annie FELTON, and Mrs. Lizzie FERRIS attended the funeral of Mrs. George MCCOY at Steubenville, Ohio, on Tuesday. Mrs. MCCOY died Saturday morning, January 20, 1917, of appendicitis. She leaves her husband and two children, a boy of ten and a girl of four. *Midway column One of the BERMEN twins died on Monday morning, January 22, 1917, at nine o'clock. The child was four weeks old. It had been ill for a few days. *Midway column

Was he/she in a hospital? Some "patients" were so ill or no one could give care that the person was placed in the county home. County Home record book ledger WAS in the Law Library. Was he/she visiting or living with a relative? Just for fun (lol) have you checked all the relatives you can think of? Anyone out of the area? Is there a County death record? checked all spellings? 1 L, 2 L "ou" and "ow" maybe single "o" and double "oo" (heck, at least the "sp" part will always be the same LOL) born ? Oct. 11, 1873... hmmm not much help huh? did their church do baby baptisms? No idea of cemetery? Judy On 10/7/07, Ruth Sprowls <sprowls@ncweb.com> wrote: > > I need some guidance from my friends - > I am back at work on another child of Obadiah Sprowls. I have a copy of > the black funeral card for Jessie Manerod Sprowls - below name on the card > it has : died Nov. 18, 1880 aged 7 yrs. 1 month 7 days > > NOW - 1880 census for Somerset Twp., Obadiah is listed at ancestry.com > as OLE SPOLL - there is no child listed as Jessie in this census. > > 2nd - normal spelling of Jessie is for FEMALES - Jesse is for MALES - I > was told by my husbands cousin that Jessie was a son - BUT I have proven > him wrong in other instances. > > 3rd - MANEROD - have done many google searches and other searches for > this "name" and zero results - I "think" that IF Jessie was a male, > it could possibly be a misprint / mispelling of Maynard (?). > And IF Jessie is female, that doesn't jive - female Jessie Maynard? > > 4 - Most of Obadiahs family is in Newkirk cemetery - but no Jessie / > Jesse - (possibly buried on the family farm ?) > > 5- I checked the mortality schedule for 1880 - regular census was > done in June 4, 1880 - and found nothing for Jessie - Jesse - or > anythng that looks like it could be him/her. Only Sprowls was an > Edith. And nothing mispelled that could be Sprowls. But if done in > June and Jessie didn't die til Nov., the child SHOULD have been with > the family. > > But knowing the secretiveness of this darn family the child could be > ANYWHERE - > > ANY IDEAS AS TO WHERE TO LOOK OR WHAT TO DO NEXT? > > NOW - WHAT or where do I check next? Anyone have any records that > shows a Jesse/Jessie Sprowls who died in Nov. 1880???? > > Thanks everyone for any leads or suggestions. > Ruth Sprowls >

Ruth, I found a Cyrus Sproul who was discharged from the 85th Pa. Infantry on surgical certificate, April 11, 1863 and died April 14, 1863. Company E was muster in Nov.12, 1861 and muster out Nov.22, 1864. I don't know if he was related even though the name is spelled differently. Crumrine, Boyd. "History of Washington County, Pennsylvania". Note: I don't have the date for this book, but it is available on line. Rosalie

sorry - found this in my "saved messages" after my previous posting -Ruth Per Gretchen' tree Ruth, it looks like Carl was an illigitimate child. Her parents are listed as Cornelius and Mary Younken Dorsey. I think Connie would the ther person to ask from the Plants family tree list as that was her husband's grandfather and maybe even her mother in law Wilda would know and she is still living. Midge -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Carl Hird Dorsey b. Jan. 10, 1899 d. June 7, 1975 married Alva Irene Sprowls Feb. 17, 1921 mother of Carl was Lydia Myrtle Dorsey b. 1876 Marshall Co.,WV. Does anyone know who the father of Carl was and the mothers maiden name? tx, Ruth

Cherie asked: <Can anyone tell me who the husband of Mrs Montgomery's daughter listed above as "Mrs. Gladys Clutter, of Washington, RD 4"? In my database, I have a Ross T. Clutter (son of George B. McClellen Clutter and Nancy E. Ewing) who was married to "Gladys P." whose maiden name is unknown to me. She lived from 1895-1987 according to her gravestone at Prosperity Cemetery in Washington County. A photo of their grave can be seen at: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Clutter&GSmid=46796100&G Rid=11427289& Thanks! -- Cherie Atkinson Clark chersfmly@aol.com> CHERIE - did you get an answer to your question? Ruth

I need some guidance from my friends - I am back at work on another child of Obadiah Sprowls. I have a copy of the black funeral card for Jessie Manerod Sprowls - below name on the card it has : died Nov. 18, 1880 aged 7 yrs. 1 month 7 days NOW - 1880 census for Somerset Twp., Obadiah is listed at ancestry.com as OLE SPOLL - there is no child listed as Jessie in this census. 2nd - normal spelling of Jessie is for FEMALES - Jesse is for MALES - I was told by my husbands cousin that Jessie was a son - BUT I have proven him wrong in other instances. 3rd - MANEROD - have done many google searches and other searches for this "name" and zero results - I "think" that IF Jessie was a male, it could possibly be a misprint / mispelling of Maynard (?). And IF Jessie is female, that doesn't jive - female Jessie Maynard? 4 - Most of Obadiahs family is in Newkirk cemetery - but no Jessie / Jesse - (possibly buried on the family farm ?) 5- I checked the mortality schedule for 1880 - regular census was done in June 4, 1880 - and found nothing for Jessie - Jesse - or anythng that looks like it could be him/her. Only Sprowls was an Edith. And nothing mispelled that could be Sprowls. But if done in June and Jessie didn't die til Nov., the child SHOULD have been with the family. But knowing the secretiveness of this darn family the child could be ANYWHERE - ANY IDEAS AS TO WHERE TO LOOK OR WHAT TO DO NEXT? NOW - WHAT or where do I check next? Anyone have any records that shows a Jesse/Jessie Sprowls who died in Nov. 1880???? Thanks everyone for any leads or suggestions. Ruth Sprowls

Friends, Thanks soooo much for all of you who sent information to help Patricia Romain Halliburton. I have been forwarding all of your messages to her as she is not a member of the list. She earlier gave me permission to pass along her query and you all came through with information as I knew you would. You guys and gals are GREAT ! ! Thanks much, Carol Mounts ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia McWreath" <bartleby749@verizon.net> To: <PAWASHIN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:08 PM Subject: [PAWASHIN] Romaine/Verner > Patricia, I have ROMAINEs in my family tree. The daughter of Gustave and > Clementine (Rose ROMAINE) married my grand uncle, James STEVENSON of > McDonald, PA, Washington County. I have a copy of Clementine's obit from > the McDonald paper if you are interested. Perhaps I may be able to assist > you in some way. By the way, in the obit for Rose Romaine's husband, > James > STEVENSON, her surname is spelled as ROMAN, which seems to me to be a > typo. > Rose is buried in Robinson's Run Cemetery in South Fayette Township, > Allegheny County, outside of McDonald. Please contact me off-list, and I > will be more than happy to share what I have, which isn't all that much, > but > it's something. I also have a copy of an obit for a Charles ROMAINE who > was > killed in an accident. According to this obituary, Rose ROMAINE STEVENSON > was his daughter. The name "Gustave" was not used. > > Cindy > > > **** > Please visit http://www.chartiers.com/pages-new/pawashin.html for list > information, particularly the bottom of the page. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1051 - Release Date: 10/5/2007 > 12:27 PM > >

Patricia, I have ROMAINEs in my family tree. The daughter of Gustave and Clementine (Rose ROMAINE) married my grand uncle, James STEVENSON of McDonald, PA, Washington County. I have a copy of Clementine's obit from the McDonald paper if you are interested. Perhaps I may be able to assist you in some way. By the way, in the obit for Rose Romaine's husband, James STEVENSON, her surname is spelled as ROMAN, which seems to me to be a typo. Rose is buried in Robinson's Run Cemetery in South Fayette Township, Allegheny County, outside of McDonald. Please contact me off-list, and I will be more than happy to share what I have, which isn't all that much, but it's something. I also have a copy of an obit for a Charles ROMAINE who was killed in an accident. According to this obituary, Rose ROMAINE STEVENSON was his daughter. The name "Gustave" was not used. Cindy

In a message dated 10/6/2007 1:13:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, camounts@comcast.net writes: some of my family was buried in center cemetery at midway. cant find anything on it. i know my gg grandmother's name was clementine romaine vermer. she died nov. 12, 1917 at her daughters home on valley street in mcdonald pa. her first husband died in 1895. ( maybe in primrose or mcdonald pa) his name was gustave romaine. i found the old article about my gg grandmother. cant find anything after that. any ideas? i sure would like some help. this is a part of the family we are just learning about. my fathers's mother died when he was 8 and his father disappeared about that time also. i know he (william Romain) was born in pleasant city ohio. if you cant help i appreciate your time. and maybe could you point me in the right direction. i live in tennessee, ( originally form chicago il.) so it is hard for me to travel there. also family name of fred demyon. once again thank you. patricia romain halliburton ================================================= 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Clemens Verner Mount Pleasant, Washington, Pennsylvania Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Birthplace: Belgium Relationship to head-of-house: Wife Spouse's name: Batista Race: White HOUSEHOLD: Note: all b. Belgium (including parents) unless otherwise noted. Batista Verner 29 b. July 1861 Clemens Verner 48 b. May 1858 mar. 5 yrs. ch: 5 (4 living) Rose Verner dau age 16 b. Jan 1884 Ida Verner dau age 13 b. Oct 1886 Manuel Verner son age 11 b. Oct 1888 b. PA Victor Verner son age 8 b. Jan 1892 b. PA ======================================= 1910 United States Federal Census Name: Clementine Vermer Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Birthplace: Belgium Relation to Head of House: Wife Father's Birth Place: Belgium Mother's Birth Place: Belgium Spouse's name: John B MT Pleasant, Washington, Pennsylvania Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Female Year of Immigration: 1887 HOUSEHOLD: both parents b. French Belgium John B Vermer head age 39 Emigrated 1893 father b. Flemish Belgium occ: Miner - Coal Miner Clementine Vermer wife age 54 mar. 13 yrs. ch: 4 (all living) parents b. French Belgium Emigrated 1887 Rosa Romaine stepdau age 26 b. French Belgium parents b. French Belgium Victor Romaine stepson age 18 b. PA parents b. French Belgium occ: Loader - Coal Mine ======================================================= World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Victor Romain City: County: Washington State: Pennsylvania Birthplace: Pennsylvania (Primrose?) Birth Date: 10 Jan 1892 Race: Caucasian (White) Roll: 1926883 DraftBoard: 2 Age: 25 Occupation: Coal Miner Nearest Relative: single Height/Build: med/med Color of Eyes/Hair: brown/dark ====================================== Jacqueline Sleeper Russell Website: _http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surn ame=A_ (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=jacquelinesr&surname=A) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Does anyone have information that would help this lady (Patricia Romain Halliburton) who is looking for help finding info on her ancestors. Her query first came to the Claysville United Presbyterian Church. I can find no record of this family in any of my Claysville PA records.Thanks in advance. Carol Mounts ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Halliburton To: CLAY-PRESBY-admin@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 5:27 PM Subject: vermer and romaine some of my family was buried in center cemetery at midway. cant find anything on it. i know my gg grandmother's name was clementine romaine vermer. she died nov. 12, 1917 at her daughters home on valley street in mcdonald pa. her first husband died in 1895. ( maybe in primrose or mcdonald pa) his name was gustave romaine. i found the old article about my gg grandmother. cant find anything after that. any ideas? i sure would like some help. this is a part of the family we are just learning about. my fathers's mother died when he was 8 and his father disappeared about that time also. i know he (william Romain) was born in pleasant city ohio. if you cant help i appreciate your time. and maybe could you point me in the right direction. i live in tennessee, ( originally form chicago il.) so it is hard for me to travel there. also family name of fred demyon. once again thank you. patricia romain halliburton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1050 - Release Date: 10/4/2007 5:03 PM

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PAGE 3 Newkirk Cemetery I have a very poor copy of some of the census for Newkirk Cemetery located at the exit of Rt.70 to Bentleyville, 917. Census was copied by Virginia Naser and Almetta Jones in July, 1965. I don't know either women so I can't provide any other info. than what I send. Since the copy is bad, there may be a lot of spelling errors. However, if you see any correction, name or date, please send it to the list. PAGE 3 CARROLL, RACHEL, wife of Tunius, born 2-17-1824, died 12-7-1878 CARROLL, TUNIUS born 1822, died 3-12-1888 (age 66) KNOX , PRISCILLA MITCHELL born 1790 died 8-20-1847 (age 57) ? (last name not given) MARTHA N. died 1862 BLACK, MARIA born 1779 died 12-30-1860 (age 81) CRAFT, JOSIE OF H. & E died 3-22-1861 (age 2.2.11) note: last name hard to read, probably Craft) CREIGHTON, SIR EDWARD died 1848 (age 23) CREIGHTON, FLORINDA died 7-24-1866 (age 10) CREIGHTON, LOUISA died 3-29-1866 CREIGHTON, BABY died 9-12-1862 NEELICA ,ELIZABETH (wife of Wm.) died 12-27-1857 (eroded, last name hard to read) PADEN, PAMELIA, (wife of Jno.) died 5-18-1868 (age 74.8.20_ WHITE, DAVID died 5-5-1872 (age 97.11.9.) SPROWL, JULIA ANN born 1827 died 1912 SPROWL, EDWARD born 6-3-1829 died 5-31-1904 SPROWL, ISIAH born 7-15-1817 died 4-30-1902 SPROWL, GEORGE born 6-9-1825 died 2-6-1899 SPROWL, JANE born 6-18-1820 died 5-15-1837 INFANT OF ASHER & ELIZABETH......died 1873 SPROWL, SARAH born 1794 died 5-7-1881 (age 87) SPROWL, WILLIAM born 12-12-1821 died 2-17-1897 SPROWL, MARGARET (wife of William) born 6-18-1818 died 11-8-1898 SPROWL, HIRAM N. (son) born 9-25-1849 died 11-30-1851 SPROWL, SARAH born 7-10-1845 died 4-18-1924 SPROWL, JENNIE born 1877 died 1881 DUNLAP, ELIZABETH born 1861 died 1919 DUNLAP, DEWEY born 1898 died 1917 DUNLAP, JOHN born 1860 died 1905 BEHANNAH, ....no first name. Last name may not be spelled correctly. Private 140th. Pa. Vol. Civil War Marker ALLEN, JOHN.........information cut off of my copy, or none provided. Note: If you see an error, or have a more legible copy, please send to the list so we can make corrections. SUBMITTED BY: Rosalie Carroll

Hello All, I have added another 30 pages to the book "Pennsylvania The Keystone" and is from 1914. It is available at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com You can click on the link on the index page to jump to the start of the most recently added section. Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Abernathy and related families No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1051 - Release Date: 10/5/2007 12:27 PM