In a message dated 6/16/2005 8:49:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I believe his siblings were Bill, Bert, Charlie, Merle, Vern, and Jenny, but I don’t know their parents’ names, anyone's birthdate or birthplace, or have any other information. Am also posting this to the Butler County Board as Mangel seems to be a common name in that area There is a tree on line that seems to be the right family it is rather bare but suggests a maiden name for the grandmother Eliz Frank MANGEL Given Name: Frank Surname: MANGEL Sex: M Birth: Abt. 1844 in 1 Note: Ancestral File Number: DWT0-VB REFN: 4130 [.GED.FTW] From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Marriage 1 Maggie WINGER b: Abt. 1848 in Note: REFN29562 Children Harriet Levine MANGEL b: 22 Mar 1870 in PA Sources: Title: .GED.FTW Repository: