This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JayneKnew Surnames: Deike Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6397/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for info on Frederick Deike. He had two wives, Ottilia with whom he had a son Albert in Dec 1887 in Oil City. By Mar 1889 he was in Cleveland purchasing land, no wife was listed. He had a daughter in 1892 in Cleveland with wife Augusta Bauer. I don't know where they were married either, but chances are it was Cleveland. Any info would be helpful. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JayneKnew Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6388.15.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frederick and Ottilia's son Albert was born in Dec of 1887 and Frederick was in Cleveland, Oh purchasing land in Mar 1889, no wife was listed. By 1892 he was married to Augusta and had a child, but there is no marriage listed in Cleveland. So I assume 1888 would be a good year to look for since I assume she was available for the baptism in Jan of 1888. thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Many of the Russells and McGinnis' are buried in the Brick Church Cemetery in Lamartine. Are you aware of this? I have photos of many of the headstones. Carol-Jeanne Turk ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <PAVENANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [PAVENANG] Charles W. Russell - Cherrytree Twp. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: wpleger > Surnames: Russell, McAfee, McGinnis, Harper > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/2553.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Do you have James Russell's parents names? I am decendent from both Sargent Samuel Russell,US(b:1778, Scotland and d: 1871 PA) who married Elizabeth McAfee (b: 1794, Phillidelphia,PA and d: 1850) and John Russell (b:1787, Scotland and d:1872 PA) who married Martha McGinnis (b: 1790, d:1872 PA). Samuel was the son of David Russell (b:1743, Scotland, d: 1820 PA) and Isabelle Harper (b: 1745, d: 1833). John Russell became an orphan and was raised by David Russell who was John's distant kin. So James and John where raised as brothers. Their decendents settled in southern Venango County. There is a book of the Russell Family in the Venango County Historical Society genealogy room. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAVENANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1300 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 7:50 PM > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kteifer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6388.15.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It didn't surprise me that there were no hits. The earlier papers are available but the images were lightened so much you cannot read them. If you have a date of death I will add your request to my list. I will have to go through microfilms and mid 1880's is not specific enough. Kristina Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, My husband is the 2nd great grandson of William L Perry through William's son Thomas Lincoln Perry. I am trying to verify what William's middle name is, his father's name and a positive tie to Ozias Perry. In your first post this week you stated that you had some lineage on this. I have some information on the Stanley's. Thomas Lincoln Perry's wife was Emma Jeannetta Stanley. Hope to hear from you. Adina Roberts wife of William Roberts > [Original Message] > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > To: <PAVENANG-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/26/2008 4:57:47 AM > Subject: Re: [PAVENANG] Perry, Karns (Karnes), Stanley (Standley), Fox,Heckathorn, Allison, Layton, Stroup, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: wpleger > Surnames: Karns, Perry > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counti es.venango/6394.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > This is so great to find another cousin! I am related through James and Mary's daughter Eliza (Elizabeth) who married William L. Perry. Good luck on your search as well. :) > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PAVENANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1299 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 9:08 AM

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wpleger Surnames: Karns, Perry Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6394.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is so great to find another cousin! I am related through James and Mary's daughter Eliza (Elizabeth) who married William L. Perry. Good luck on your search as well. :) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am confused! Is B. C., Fox Barbara Catherine Fox who was married to John Standley? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <PAVENANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: [PAVENANG] Perry, Karns (Karnes), Stanley (Standley), Fox,Heckathorn, Allison, Layton, Stroup, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: wpleger > Surnames: Perry, Karns, Karnes, Stanley, Standley, Fox, Heckathorn, > Allison, Layton, Stroup, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6394/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > The following where in Venango County of the same generation. William L. > Perry (b. 1823, d:1919), son of Marvin Perry and Mary Layton, married > Eliza (Elizabeth)Karns (Karnes) (burried:Heckathorn Church,Venango), > daughter of James Karnes and Mary Stoup. Sadie (Sarah)Stanley daughter of > John Standley (b.1826 d.1901) married B.C. Fox. John and his brother > Andrew owned Stanley's corners (now called Stanley Rd.) going east on RT > 157 on Perry flats. George W. Fox (b:1822 d. 1902), son of Michael Fox and > Elizabeth Harpst, married Rachel Heckathorn (b. 1821), daughter of George > Heckathorn and Mary Shaffer. George settled to farm in President Twp. > Reuben Heckathorn, Jr. (b. 1873 d. 1950), son of Reuben Heckathorn, Sr and > Anna Stewart, married Frances Allison. I do have lineages further back on > Perry, Fox, and Heckathorn. Looking for more information on Layton, > Karnes, Stroup, Standley, B.C. Fox, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart, Allison. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAVENANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am confused! B. C. Fox is this Barbara Catherine Fox who was married to John Standley? ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <PAVENANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: [PAVENANG] Perry, Karns (Karnes), Stanley (Standley), Fox,Heckathorn, Allison, Layton, Stroup, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: wpleger > Surnames: Perry, Karns, Karnes, Stanley, Standley, Fox, Heckathorn, > Allison, Layton, Stroup, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6394/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > The following where in Venango County of the same generation. William L. > Perry (b. 1823, d:1919), son of Marvin Perry and Mary Layton, married > Eliza (Elizabeth)Karns (Karnes) (burried:Heckathorn Church,Venango), > daughter of James Karnes and Mary Stoup. Sadie (Sarah)Stanley daughter of > John Standley (b.1826 d.1901) married B.C. Fox. John and his brother > Andrew owned Stanley's corners (now called Stanley Rd.) going east on RT > 157 on Perry flats. George W. Fox (b:1822 d. 1902), son of Michael Fox and > Elizabeth Harpst, married Rachel Heckathorn (b. 1821), daughter of George > Heckathorn and Mary Shaffer. George settled to farm in President Twp. > Reuben Heckathorn, Jr. (b. 1873 d. 1950), son of Reuben Heckathorn, Sr and > Anna Stewart, married Frances Allison. I do have lineages further back on > Perry, Fox, and Heckathorn. Looking for more information on Layton, > Karnes, Stroup, Standley, B.C. Fox, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart, Allison. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAVENANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nem0216 Surnames: Karns Stroup Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6394.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: James and Mary are my GGG Grandparents, so we are related - distant cousins! I am descended from their son Adam. Which of their children are you related to? Good to hear from a cousin! I have somethings about the Karns and Stroup families, but am trying to confirm everything. Best of luck on your search! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wpleger Surnames: Karns, Karnes, Stoup, Straub Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6394.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello. I did not have the parents of James Karns and Mary Stoup. I saw on this Venango Co. forum that someone posted that Mary's parents where Adam and Eva Stoup(Straub), Adam's parents where Johan Peter Straub, Jr and Catharina Elizabeth, Johan Jr.'s parents where Johan Peter Straub and Anna Maria Barbara. Have you tried tracing Johan Peter Straub's children/decendents to find your Adam? That was where I was going to start my search. Sorry, I do not have more to help. James Karns and Mary Stroup where my fourth Great Grandparents. So if your Adam was Mary's brother, we are related. :) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nem0216 Surnames: Karns Stroup (Straub) Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6394.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello! I am descendent of James and Mary Stroup Karns through their son Adam. Do you have information about James or Mary's parents? I am trying to definitely trace Adam Karns through Mary and link him to her and her parents Adam and Eve Stroup. Do you have anything that my help? I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Nancy McGuire Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wpleger Surnames: Karns, Karnes, Stroup, Straub Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/297.354.797/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Eliza (Elizabeth)Karns (Karnes), who was born in early 1800's, was the daughter of James Karnes and Mary Stroup. I am looking for the parents and genealogy of Mary Stroup. Any information would be helpful if this matches with your information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wpleger Surnames: Porter, Lowrie, Stephen, Stephens, Cameron, Slater, Schlehdorn, Storye, Gold, Gould Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6396/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following are of the same generation in Venango County. John Lowrie Porter (b. 1795, d. 1882), son of Captain or General Andrew Porter,US and Anna Lowrie, married Nancy Lowrie Stephens (b. 1806, d. 1887), daughter of Corporal John Stephen(s),US and Betsy (Elizabeth)Lowrie. Anna and Betsy Lowrie where sisters and where the daughters of Private John Lowrie,US and Catherine Cameron. John and Catherine Lowrie, from Scotland, settled in the quad county corner of southern Venango County. Christian (Christopher) Slater (b. 1796, d. 1876), son of John (Johannes) Slater (Schlehdorn) and Catherine Storye, married Mary Matilda "Polly" Gold (Gould), daughter of Joseph D. Gold (Gould) (b. Ireland) and a Native American woman. John and Catherine Slater where from Alsace, France. I have lineages further back for Lowrie and Slater (Schlehdorn). Looking for Porter, Stephen(s), Storye, Gold (Gould), and name of Native American woman who was married to Joseph Gold (Gould). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Would someone please look up the 1840 or 1850 census record for Robert Crawford, possibly Robert J. Crawford of Scrub Grass Township, Venango County? It seems that he and his family took over the land of his father, Robert Crawford, after his father's death 1830 - 1835. Robert Crawford Sr. and his wife Eleanor Smith Crawford may be buried on the original farm/home place. Eleanor Smith Crawford died between 1820 - 1824. Anything on Robert Crawford Jr. his brother George Crawford, two or three unknown sisters, and a younger brother, possibly named William, much appreciated. Robert Crawford Jr. born between 1790 - 1800. Thank you Judy Smith/Colorado

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wpleger Surnames: Gibbons, Miller, Kocher, Dey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6395/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John Burton Miller (b. 1861, d. 1918 Venango), son of Isaac Christ (Christian) Miller and Susan (Susanna)Melvina Kocher, married Sarah Etta Gibbons (b. 1868, d. 1935), daughter of John Henry Gibbons and Caroline M. Dey. I have information further back on Miller, Kocher, and Dey. Looking for futher information on Gibbons. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wpleger Surnames: Perry, Karns, Karnes, Stanley, Standley, Fox, Heckathorn, Allison, Layton, Stroup, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6394/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following where in Venango County of the same generation. William L. Perry (b. 1823, d:1919), son of Marvin Perry and Mary Layton, married Eliza (Elizabeth)Karns (Karnes) (burried:Heckathorn Church,Venango), daughter of James Karnes and Mary Stoup. Sadie (Sarah)Stanley daughter of John Standley (b.1826 d.1901) married B.C. Fox. John and his brother Andrew owned Stanley's corners (now called Stanley Rd.) going east on RT 157 on Perry flats. George W. Fox (b:1822 d. 1902), son of Michael Fox and Elizabeth Harpst, married Rachel Heckathorn (b. 1821), daughter of George Heckathorn and Mary Shaffer. George settled to farm in President Twp. Reuben Heckathorn, Jr. (b. 1873 d. 1950), son of Reuben Heckathorn, Sr and Anna Stewart, married Frances Allison. I do have lineages further back on Perry, Fox, and Heckathorn. Looking for more information on Layton, Karnes, Stroup, Standley, B.C. Fox, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart, Allison. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wpleger Surnames: Russell, McAfee, McGinnis, Harper Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/2553.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have James Russell's parents names? I am decendent from both Sargent Samuel Russell,US(b:1778, Scotland and d: 1871 PA) who married Elizabeth McAfee (b: 1794, Phillidelphia,PA and d: 1850) and John Russell (b:1787, Scotland and d:1872 PA) who married Martha McGinnis (b: 1790, d:1872 PA). Samuel was the son of David Russell (b:1743, Scotland, d: 1820 PA) and Isabelle Harper (b: 1745, d: 1833). John Russell became an orphan and was raised by David Russell who was John's distant kin. So James and John where raised as brothers. Their decendents settled in southern Venango County. There is a book of the Russell Family in the Venango County Historical Society genealogy room. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wpleger Surnames: Pleger, Radig, Radick Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/1542.2321.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are documents in the Venango County Courthouse that provide the information. Not much information but some. On Karle (Charles) Pleger and Julia Radig's marriage application, it lists the parents of both Karle and Julia. Karle's parents where John and Eliz. Pleger. There is not a country of orgin for either of them. At the time of their marriage, Prussia was part of the German Empire and was listed as such. So I looked to naturalization records for a more accurate country of origin. Frederick (Sr.) is listed as from Prussia, since he naturalized before the merger. Frederick (Jr., son of Frederick) and Charles (Karle) naturalized after the merger and are listed as from German Empire. There is a Pleger book that Shirly Biechner made in the 1970's, that has the story of the Pleger family as told by either Florence or Frederick while in old age in a nursing home. My Great Grandma Rose Pleger told me that Karle (Charles) told here once that the Pleger family came from east o! f Danzig and the land was flat. Also that Ed and Rose's homestead reminded Karle (Charles) of his homeland and what he left behind. Also if you are interested, I have the names of the parents of Julia Radig. One of the facts that was interesting to find out was that the Pleger and Radig families where friends in the old country. I found that little tidbit while researching the Radig side of the family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

A lot of earlier information on some of these families can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~pavenang/ . I have Stroup and Karnes connection in Venango county but none of your names came up in my files. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <PAVENANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: [PAVENANG] Perry, Karns (Karnes), Stanley (Standley), Fox,Heckathorn, Allison, Layton, Stroup, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: wpleger > Surnames: Perry, Karns, Karnes, Stanley, Standley, Fox, Heckathorn, > Allison, Layton, Stroup, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/6394/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > The following where in Venango County of the same generation. William L. > Perry (b. 1823, d:1919), son of Marvin Perry and Mary Layton, married > Eliza (Elizabeth)Karns (Karnes) (burried:Heckathorn Church,Venango), > daughter of James Karnes and Mary Stoup. Sadie (Sarah)Stanley daughter of > John Standley (b.1826 d.1901) married B.C. Fox. John and his brother > Andrew owned Stanley's corners (now called Stanley Rd.) going east on RT > 157 on Perry flats. George W. Fox (b:1822 d. 1902), son of Michael Fox and > Elizabeth Harpst, married Rachel Heckathorn (b. 1821), daughter of George > Heckathorn and Mary Shaffer. George settled to farm in President Twp. > Reuben Heckathorn, Jr. (b. 1873 d. 1950), son of Reuben Heckathorn, Sr and > Anna Stewart, married Frances Allison. I do have lineages further back on > Perry, Fox, and Heckathorn. Looking for more information on Layton, > Karnes, Stroup, Standley, B.C. Fox, Harpst, Shaffer, Stewart, Allison. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PAVENANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rkentsmith Surnames: Bell, Peters, Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.venango/1473.1505.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I also am interested in what photos you have. I have a photo of the Peter's schoolhouse with 19 children and their teacher, Jennie Bell, standing in front. I estimate that it dates from about 1896 based on the fact that my grandfather, who is in the picture, looks about age 13. The photo was taken by Empire View Co. of Cochranton, Pa. Kent Smith rksmith@tampabay.rr.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.