This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------ED76BA4B4D6662178AD9725F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harald, Thanks for pointing that out. You're absolutely correct. By the way, do you know who provided the names of Robert's (ca. 1727-1791) of Craven/York brothers? i.e., William, Peter, and Joseph? Thanks. Wes Harald Reksten wrote: > Wes, > > Actually Robert's will from York County, SC does not mention Augusta > County, VA (it only mentions Virginia). As far as I know there is no > known proof that Robert of York County was from Augusta Co, VA but it > is certainly possible. > > Harald > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wpatersn@wfubmc.edu > To: Debra Clark > Cc: Patterson Rootsweb List ; PattersonGenealogyNC > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:52 PM > Subject: [PattersonGenealogyNC] Re: Robert and Mary/Margaret > Patterson family > > > Debra, > > Yes, I have that same record from John of Great Bridge, Va. I don't > have it with > me (at work) so I wasn't able to refer to that earlier when I > replied to you. > There are other accounts of these same families though that do > confuse the > issue, as you mentioned. > > I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU: > > 1. Do you know which 8 children grew to maturity, as stated in those > notes? > > 2. Do you know anything about the Robert (son of Robert of > Lancaster) who was > four years old in the account below? I'm trying to determine if he > was four in > 1730 when they reached PA or when they first started on that two > year excursion > across the state. In either case, that would make him being born > about 1724 or > 1726. Do you know if he stayed in the PA area or if he left and went > south? > > I'm specifically trying to see if there is a link between him and > the Robert > Patterson who died in York Co., SC in 1791. This latter Robert was > born about > 1727 give or take a year. It is known that owned land in Augusta > Co., Va which > covered most of the western region of Va in the 1740s and 1750s (WV > also). It is > believed that his family was from PA and that he was either born in > PA or in N. > Ireland. His 1775 will (he died in 1791 though) states that he owned > land in > both Augusta Co., Va and also in Craven/York Co., SC. > > His oldest son was named Thomas (and I see where the Robert son of > Robert of > Lancaster was about two years older than his brother Thomas making > them close, > no doubt). Robert of Va/SC also had children named Robert, Peter, > Elizabeth, > Lydia, Sarah, and William (and I see where the PA Robert also had a > brother > named William, too). > > The Va/SC Robert's son Thomas was born ca. 1748. This same Thomas > and his > younger brothers Robert and Peter may have been born in Augusta Co., > Va, but it > is believed that the four youngest siblings were all born in the old > Craven Co., > SC between 1755 and 1762. So it looks like this Va/SC Robert > acquired land in > Augusta Co., Va in the 1740s perhaps, and then moved to SC in the > mid 1750s, > holding onto the land in both states. According to the account on > the PA > Pattersons, the Thomas Patterson there was killed in 1756 (mid > 1750s) by > Indians. If he WAS the brother of the Va/SC Robert Patterson, > perhaps THAT is > why Robert moved to SC, to get away from the dangerous open lands. I > DO know > that is why thousands did move south during the 1750s. > > I am 95% sure that my gggg-gf John Patterson (b. ca. 1766 in SC; d. > 1840s in > Union Co., Ga) was the son of Thomas Patterson (ca. 1748), who was > the son of > the Va/SC Robert Patterson(ca. 1727). I am extremely interested in > finding out > more about this "four year old" Robert Patterson, son of Robert of > Lancaster. If > these two Roberts (PA Robert and Va/SC Robert) were not the same > person, I > suspect there may still be a connection somewhere. > > I would greatly appreciate any insight you may have. > > Thanks, Debra. > Wes > > http://wespatterson.com/patterson.html > > > Debra Clark wrote: > > > Hello Wes, > > Thanks for the names of the boys. Some sources say that John > Patterson m. to > > Phebe ___ was the brother of Col. Robert Patterson of Dayton, OH > and some > > say 1st cousin. The Patterson Papers in Dayton say that Francis's > brother > > John was the father of John Patterson m. Phoebe/Phebe. So we are > leaning > > toward 1st cousin. Also there is a John Patterson buried in > Woodland Cem. > > with all of Col. Robert and his family and that John Patterson b. > 1754 d. 09 > > Jun 1829 was married to Sarah __ and had two children, William and > a > > daughter Sarah that married a Mr. Roads. I have his will, I > thought he was > > my John Patterson but mine died 26 Dec 1821 Union Villiage, Warren > Co., OH. > > No will or estate as far as I know. Here is some information I > recieved from > > John Patterson from Great Bridge, VA > > Notes: Concerning the Forefathers: The first of the Pattersons who > came over > > had settled in the northeast part of the state. The father > (emigrant John), > > and son Robert (afterwards of Lancaster), decided to go farther > south. It > > took them, according to the family records, two years to cross the > state. > > They settled on the way, raised a crop of corn and then moved on > farther > > west and south. The family party in wagons were as follows: the > emigrant > > ancestor, John Patterson, and his middle-aged single daughter, > whose name > > has not been preserved; Robert (of Lancaster), his son, Robert's > wife, > > Margaret, and their children: John; aged thirteen (ancestor of the > Shaker > > Pattersons); Mary, eleven, Francis (of Bedford), nine (afterwards > father of > > Robert Patterson of Lexington); William, seven; Robert, four; and > Thomas, a > > baby. Another daughter, whose name isnot known, was next older > than William. > > Several more children were born to Robert and Margaret after they > came to > > Amercia; Ann was born in NJ in 1732. > > > > ... After the death of John Patterson, his spinster daughter left > the family > > party for a home of her own in a cabin near the Patterson farm and > lived > > alone until her death, some years later. The next move of the > family was > > into Pennsylvania. They spent several years in Bucks and Lancaster > Counties, > > the in 1738 crossed the Susquehanna into York County and lived > near Hanover; > > then, returning to Lancaster County, Robert purchased land on > Sweet Arrow > > Creek; and "Sweet Arrow Farm" as the Patterson home, became widely > known as > > is the "Rubicon Farm" near Dayton (Ohio), 160 years later. The > names of > > John, Farncis and William, sons of Robert of Lancaster, will be > found > > enrolled for military services in the fort companies of troopers > of York and > > Lancaster counties. Eight of these children of Robert and Margaret > Patterson > > lived to maturity, and most of them acquired homes in > Pennsylvania. William > > married a Virginia girl and they joined her people south of the > Potomac in > > Berkeley County; some records say Frederick County. This William, > as a > > "minuteman" took part in the Battle of Cowpens, his brothers > Francis and > > Robert marching in reinforcements when halted by the news of > Colonel > > Morgan's glorious victory. One of Robert's daughters married and > lived in > > Maryland. Mary married and moved to the Pennsylvania frontier with > her > > brothers, Francis (father of Robert, of Lexington) and Thomas, > leaving the > > Sweet Arrow Farm in order to make their home together in the Cove > Mountain > > neighborhood. > > > > ...For five years, 1758 to 1763, Francis and his brother Robert > (Uncle of > > Colonel Robert) of Lancaster County were in almost constant > mounterd service > > of the frontier. > > > > I don't know if my John and Phebe were in KY for sure or if it was > the other > > John Patterson m. to Sarah. I think my John and Phebe were in VA > near the > > Patomac(k) River. Here is a note from "The Chronicles of the > Scoth Irish in > > Virginia", by Chalkey, Vol 1, Patterson vs. Gamwell.--John > Patterson, son of > > John Patterson, Middle River, 14th. June, 1770, but I have found > another > > John mentioned as the son and heir of Robert Patterson around the > same > > period. If my John was from Lancaster as mentioned in the above > paragraph > > then he didn't stay long but lived mostly in VA then KY then > Dayton, OH. > > It is going to take lots of digging to find out who is who. So > for now I am > > unsure of when and where he was exactly before Dayton,OH. > > Sincerely, > > Debra Clark > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wes Patterson" <wpatersn@wfubmc.edu> > > To: "Debra Clark" <debradclark@worldnet.att.net> > > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:14 AM > > Subject: Re: Robert and Mary/Margaret Patterson family > > > > > Debra, > > > > > > Thanks for writing. I have seen a couple of different lists and > am trying > > to > > > sort through them myself. It sounds like the information you > have is on > > their > > > son Francis Patterson (married Jane). I see where you have your > John as > > the > > > nephew of this Francis. Do you know who your John's father was? > > > > > > According to the info I have Robert was born ca. 1675 and > married > > Mary/Margaret. > > > They had 9 or 10 sons and at least a couple of daughters. I'm > still trying > > to > > > piece together the dates for the children, but it seems their > sons' names > > were > > > William, Hugh, James, Robert, Matthew, Thomas, John, Leonard, > Francis, and > > one > > > other possibly. These are not in any kind of order here. > > > > > > I'd love to know anything more that you do on this family. > Thanks. > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > Debra Clark wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Wes, > > > > I too descend from Robert b. 1700 Ireland and Margaret/Mary > Patterson. > > I > > > > recieved some information from Wight State Univ. Library in > Dayton, OH. > > My > > > > ancestor John Patterson m. Phebe were 1st cousins to Col. > Robert > > Patterson > > > > co-founder of Lexington, KY and Dayton, OH. John and Phebe > became > > Shakers. > > > > That is another story. Any way Col. Robert's family documents > were > > preserved > > > > in Dayton. His son Jefferson was also a Col. and grandson John > Henry > > > > Patterson was founder and CEO of National Cash Registar. So > they were > > very > > > > important to Dayton. Mine were run out of town because they > were > > Shakers. > > > > At any rate, one of the genealogical charts for Col. Robert > Patterson > > shows > > > > Robert's parents as Francis and Jane Patterson. The children > were: > > Francis > > > > Patterson, b. 1721 Ireland d. 09 Jul 1801 Lexington, KY, John > Patterson > > b. > > > > 1717 d. prob. Lancaster, Lancaster Co.,PA, William Patterson > ca 1730, I > > > > think he is the one m. Sarah Douglas, Robert Patterson b. > 1724, Thomas > > > > Patterson b. 1726 d. Killed by Indians in 1756, Arthur > Patterson b. > > 1728, > > > > Ann Patterson b. 1732, and the last one I have is Mary > Patterson b. > > 1719. > > > > If you have a list of children and info on Robert and > Margaret/Mary's > > > > children. I would really appreicate a list. Also, if you have > any info > > or > > > > know anyone who might know more about John Patterson b. 1717 > Ireland I > > would > > > > really appreciate the help. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Debra Clark > > > > > > Yahoo! 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