Diana The standard reference for British coats of arms that contains a representation and description of the PATE arms is Burke's book on Extinct English and Irish Arms. That work indicates that the arms with the 3 Roman letters "R" was a life baronet grant that EXPIRED upon the death of the grantee. To my knowledge no embellishments, honors or motto were granted, recognized or recorded. One translation of "Pietas nunquam mor moritur" Death Never Kills Goodness (piety) Semper suspicat mal Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: <Icdrose1@aol.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:34 PM Subject: [PATE] Family Motto > The following website: > > http://regan.org/genealogy/families/pate/coat_pate.htm > > gives "Pietas nunquam mor moritur" as the Pate family motto...anyone know the > translation? > > Many thanks! Diana > >