There was a posting on the Pate Forum on this James Robert Pate - however, I found some different dates than were posted - can anyone verify them one way or the other? James Robert Pate was b. 12 Jan --1870-- this from the book "Our Dead, Shelby Co, TX" by J B Sanders; Pleasant Grove Cemetery Records and Mangum Funeral Home Records. Mary Elizabeth Dockens was b. --20-- Jul --1874-- (Same references as James Robert Pate) The marriage record of Jesse Osby Pate is from Shelby Co, TX, Marr Bk 14, p 177; --11-- Apr 1934; J O Pate & Evilla Jarry As we all know, printed sources are sometimes wrong, and the errors are carried on down. Jinks