Dear Jinks, The only document is the one from the Dyer Co records which seems to be an extraction from another co.Then the Dyer Minutes 1852-1856 pg 163 Mar 3, 1851 say that Stephen D. Pate is deceased leaving no will. The administrators are Wm Miller (husband of Polly), Thos J Connell and William A. Dawson (son in law of my Elizabeth Pate Clarke and my direct line) security offered $8,000. I asked the other county to do a search but they were thrown off by the line that said the late Stephen D. Pate of Dyer. They said that there was no such document. I checked all the land documents in Dyer and in the library and the quote in the records was the one that said that Mathew (who brought the suit) was one and the wife of Wm Miller (that would be Mary Ann Pate) the other, two of eight children of deceased Stephen Pate of Dyer. (Remember that Polly Pate Miller was living with James Pate in 1850.) We need someone to go into the surrounding counties to check land entries and divisions and see what portions were divided between Mathew, Mary Ann (Polly) and other heirs. (Portions of Dyer Co are now in the other counties.) It will most likely be January before I can even consider that. I think we need to consider the children living with Jane Pate in one household in 1830. Also look at the family with Mathew Pate in another home and then the third household with James Pate. The histories say 3 children are connected with Jane. Andrew Jackson Pate bn 1815, Mathew D. and E. Cain 1831. Your friend had believed that Mathew was married before he married his brother's widow and that might account for some of the children in the Jane home but why are Mathew and Jane living apart in 1830. I have been gone or had houseguests since Aug. 1. I will try to post the 1830 census and see if we can jog someone's mind. Do we know anyone who could go into the surrounding counties? Especially Gibson. Meredith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jinks Lee" <jinksp@juno.com> To: <dsheridan1@ec.rr.com> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [PATE] Elizabeth Pate 1800 Tn and Henderson Clark 1797 > Meredith - do you have a copy of the "Court documents in 1851 showing > Mary Ann Pate & Matthew Pate are two of the eight children of Stephen > Pate, dec'd" ?? The few partial references I've seen on it could be > interpreted in different ways - I would love to see the entire doc. Where > is it recorded? > Thanks > Jinks >