Hi list, Would like to discuss the Matthew PATE (1785-1849) and Lewis PATE (1791-1870's) families of Washington Co., IL. They are of an age to be brothers, but no connection found so far. Specifically, I'm trying to determine to which family two girls belong. Cyrena S. PATE was born about 1824 IL and married William A. PENTER 16 Apr 1843 in Washington Co., IL. They left the area between 1848-1850 and were in Franklin Co., MO for the 1850 census. In 1870, they were in Greene Co., MO. Cyrena died 18 Oct 1887 in Christian Co., MO. All of the above information was given to me by a descendant who recently contacted me. My Lewis PATE did have a daughter age 10-15 in the 1840 census of Washington Co., IL, making her born bet. 1824-1830. Up until now, I had assumed that daughter was probably Elizabeth PATE who married William TINDELL 14 Jun 1847 in Greene Co., MO (no age given), because In 1850, Lewis and his children were in Greene Co., Benton twp. (later part of Webster Co.). I can't remember whether I have looked for the TINDELLs in 1850. I did search Greene Co. marriage records for TINDELL, and William appears to have remarried in 1856 and 1870, so they were probably a young couple and Elizabeth probably died young. Would appreciate any help from Jinks or anyone else. If anyone has a connection to the TINDELLs or PENTERs, maybe they can find something. Chandra Dawson Martin