Joel, concerning the message that mentions Pates and Pemiscot County, Missouri, I thought I would just say that I was born and raised in Pemiscot County. I married a Pate, Marilyn Mae, as you know, but I also went to high school in Caruthersville, Missouri, which is in Pemiscot, with a Kenneth Pate. We graduated from C'ville in 1951. The last I heard of Kenneth Pate was in 2001. Then. he was said to be living at Rt. # 1, P.O. box 87, Fredericktown Missouri 63645. I have no idea if Kenneth is related to the mentioned Pates or not, or for that matter to my wife. Kenneth would have been born ca 1933. Joe Hazel