Meredith - think I told you I had corresponded with Ernestine Collins on this family years ago - she evidently knew several of the descendants and had some information from them -- Dyer Co, TN - Pate family - she says There was an old family cemetery at Bonicord, TN (said to be Susan & Jack's homeplace) that was ploughed up and markers thrown into the river, so it seems that Joe Calvin Pate, who compiled what records this family have, stopped there, having depended on the tombstone data to show him who the ancesters were. She goes on to say - One dau of Jack (Andrew Jackson) & Susan Pate, was Helen, who married a Dunlap and after the Civil War moved to AR - she had located a granddaughter, who had a Dunlap Bible with Pate data -- Ernestine also says she had a note from Linna Browder Jones (desc of Jack & Susan Thurmond Pate) -" the old home of Uncle Matt Pate had a family cemetery across the road from the house, John York Pate used to care for it. Uncle Matt had a son, called "Little Matt" and a dau, Annie by the lst wife who died when Annie was born; Annie died in childhood. Little Matt was a dentist, died a few years ago, had no children--" This part is confusing to me -- I have been to this cemetery on a visit to TN, and where I got some family records from Betty Nash -- and am not sure which one is "Uncle Matt" I did find "Little Matt" in a census recently -- 1910 Sebastian Co, AR Matthew W Pate age 46 - Dentist, b. TN/ father b. KY, mother b. TN Emma age 40, b. MS, father b. SC, mother b. GA They have been married 15 yrs Notice he says his father was born KY - and in the 1850 Dyer Co, TN census: C P Clark (Male) age 28 b. AL G F Rucker (Male) age 26, b. AL Mary Rucker age 21, b. NC M Pate (Male) age 25 - b. KY - is this Matthew??? E Pierce (Male) age 21, b. GA So who is this M/Matthew's parents??? More questions! Jinks