Edmund Carter Pate, b. c 1818 VA md Charity Ann (??)-Trainham Children: Maria E Ptae, b. 1850 VA John J Pate, b. Dec 1853 VA md Mildred A -- Mary S Pate, b. 1854 VA Charity A Pate, b. 1860 VA This family was in Louisa Co, VA from 1860 to 1880 and poor old Charity Ann Trainham Pate ended up in 1900 Augusta Co, VA in the Western State Hospital for Insane Jinks