Lindy: Thanks for posting this letter: It is my belief that the writer of the letter was Mary Jane "Jincy" Moore Pate 12 Oct 1825-28 Apr 1887. She was writing to her husband James David Pate 29 Jun 1817-28 Aug 1865 She makes reference to Bennett Pate. I think this was their son William Bennett Pate 2 Oct 1842-10 Dec 1915 She also refers to a Hansel. This was probably their son James Hansel Pate b May 1862 d 1939. She makes mention of his mother. No doubt this was Temperance Parkerson Pate 30 Sep 1782-9 Aug 1865. This couple had another son, Elijah D M Pate b 24 Jan 1845-8 Oct 1860. He was dead before the letter was written 27 Oct 1864. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindy Hard" <ssautyvalleyfarm@worldnet.att.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Jeremy Utt's Pate Ancestors > 1864 Civil War Letter from wife to husband [Was on sale on Ebay 15 Oct > 2002; transcription made while item was featured on e-bay] > "Abbeville, Wilcox County Georgia, 27th October 1864... My dear Husband, I > received your kind and affectionate letter dated 17th of this instant on > Monday last and was most happy to hear from you and to learn that you were > still able to be up about I am happy to inform you that we are all well at > present and getting along as well as possible considering the times, and I > do hope and trust that these few lines may reach your safe and find you in > the enjoyment of the best of health. I was sorry to hear that you had to > leave Macon, I was sorry to hear that you could not get a furlough, but you > must keep trying perhaps you will succeed some of these days I will put up > the sugar cane as soon as I get done hauling in my corn, I have not done > gathering corn but I reckon I will get done this week. There has been no > cold here to hurt anything yet, no not enough to kill the gourd or potato > vines. I have right smart of peas picked and will pick more as I get time, > I have got up seventeen very nice meat hogs and will get more as soon as I > can. I will take care of the potatoes I have seven pigs near about raised, > and twelve more about the yard, and John saw twelve more in the woods, which > makes 31 that I know of, and I will get up more as fast as I can You may be > assured that I will take care of everything the best I know how. I will do > what you say about Davis and Rhodes places and get the rent home as soon as > I can. I reckon that Jonathan Walker will help John get those two hogs out > of the double run he saw them theres the other day. I was glad that Bennet > got to stay with you some I wish you could be together all the time. I got > a letter from Bennet at the same time I received yours and he was well at > that time. My tax is paid already. Mr. Jonathan Smith paid it for me, he > sold some of your steers and paid your tax and brought me the balance of the > money. Your tax was 392.18 the war tax is not paid yet. I have done all I > could to get you a detail, keep in good heart I will try again I want you to > get a furlough and come home and get your clothes. Write soon and let me > know where you are, if I had known that you had been in Macon all this time > I would have sent you more provisions I sent you a parcel of sugar cane, > five pounds of bacon, two chickens and a par of socks and some potatoes and > would like to know if you got them. Your Mother, Hansel and the children > all want to see you very much and send their love to you. Sam grows finely. > I remain, My dear Husband your affectionate Wife Jane Pate." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeremy Utt" <jeremy_utt@hotmail.com> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 1:11 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Jeremy Utt's Pate Ancestors > > > > Linda, > > > > NO! I did not know that such a letter exists! Yes, I am very new to > > genealogical research, where the Pate family in concerned. Please send me > > the transcription when possible (I would GREATLY appreciate it). > > > > I hope that whoever bought the letter will one day bequeath it to the > Museum > > of the Confederacy in Richmond, VA, or to a Georgia state achieves agency > so > > that "the rest of us" might have some sort of access to (or ownership of) > > it. > > > > Jeremy Utt > > Powhatan Co., VA > > > **************************************************************************** > *** > > > > >From: "Lindy Hard" <ssautyvalleyfarm@worldnet.att.net> > > >Reply-To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Jeremy Utt's Pate Ancestors > > >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 21:39:10 -0600 > > > > > >Jeremy, since you seem to be a new researcher to Pate genealogy, did you > > >see > > >the 1864 letter that went on sale on e-bay in 2002 from your ancestor > Jane > > >Moore Pate to her husband James Pate who was away at war? If not, I made > a > > >transcription of the letter and have it in my database and will send it > to > > >you. I have no idea who bought the letter. > > > > > >Lindy Hard > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Jeremy Utt" <jeremy_utt@hotmail.com> > > >To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 11:13 AM > > >Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Jeremy Utt's Pate Ancestors > > > > > > > > > >> Generation 7) JAMES PATE (B: ???) married Jane Moore > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.942 (20041207) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.nod32.com > > > > > >

I was thinking also that "John" who is mentioned as finding the pigs is John Thomas Pate, Jeremy's stated ancestor, since she mentions Jonothan Walker & Jonathan Smith using full names, but speaks of John in the same manner as she does Bennet & Hansel. I have a birth date for John Thomas Pate as 22 Jan 1847, but no death date. I liked the letter, because it so well describes what our Southern women were going through when the men were away at war. Lindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Jeremy Utt's Pate Ancestors > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lindy Hard" <ssautyvalleyfarm@worldnet.att.net> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Jeremy Utt's Pate Ancestors > > > > 1864 Civil War Letter from wife to husband [Was on sale on Ebay 15 Oct > > 2002; transcription made while item was featured on e-bay] > > "Abbeville, Wilcox County Georgia, 27th October 1864...

Joel, I think we may have discussed these TPP dates in the past. I had changed mine in my database to reflect the toombstone records of Friendship Baptist Church, Wilcox Co Ga. Temperance Pate dates are given as b 11 Mar 1788-d 3 Oct 1865 in the cemetery records. There's quite a bit of difference between those & the ones of John Ben Pate in his booklet, but I have no idea which are correct. A few weeks ago, I looked up the Friendship Baptist church records on microfilm at the GA archives. Drawer/Roll 232/4 Friendship Baptist Church, Dooly, later Pulaski, now Wilcox Co. The church was organized in 1843 (no Pates listed as organizing or early members.) The church membership increases about the time James Holt received his land grant in the nearby area (late 1840's,) but new members are not specifically named. Records for 13 Sept 1856 show the following Pate related Baptisms-- James Holt Temta Holt Jane Holt Mary Holt Pheba an Holt Included with the church minutes is a Deed 5 June 1857, GA, Dooly Co, Harmon Knight to Levi Harrell, Reuben Runnels for the church at Friendship in said county.... witnesses were James (his x mark) Holt and Allen Barton Lindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Jeremy Utt's Pate Ancestors > She makes mention of his mother. No doubt this was Temperance Parkerson > Pate 30 Sep 1782-9 Aug 1865.

Lindy: I have both sets of dates- 30 Sep 1782-9 Aug 1865 (JBP) 11 Mar 1788-3 Oct 1865 for TPP in my database. The only "agreement" between the two is the year of death, 1865 There is one census record that is more supportive of the 1782 birth date. In the 1860 census she was living with her son and DNL in Wilcox Co (page 756-7, site 202/202). Her age and POB were given as 77 NC. That indicates a DOB of 1783. I can't find a Friendship Bapt Church in Wilcox Co in the modern GNIS. Was this church also known as Bohanon Church? I think James D Pate owned land in the SW tip of Pulaski Co that was given up to form Wilcox Co in 1857. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindy Hard" <ssautyvalleyfarm@worldnet.att.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Temperance Parkerson Pate > Joel, > I think we may have discussed these TPP dates in the past. I had changed > mine in my database to reflect the toombstone records of Friendship Baptist > Church, Wilcox Co Ga. > Temperance Pate dates are given as b 11 Mar 1788-d 3 Oct 1865 in the > cemetery records. > > There's quite a bit of difference between those & the ones of John Ben Pate > in his booklet, but I have no idea which are correct. > > A few weeks ago, I looked up the Friendship Baptist church records on > microfilm at the GA archives. > Drawer/Roll 232/4 Friendship Baptist Church, Dooly, later Pulaski, now > Wilcox Co. The church was organized in 1843 (no Pates listed as organizing > or early members.) The church membership increases about the time James > Holt received his land grant in the nearby area (late 1840's,) but new > members are not specifically named. > Records for 13 Sept 1856 show the following Pate related Baptisms-- > James Holt > Temta Holt > Jane Holt > Mary Holt > Pheba an Holt > > Included with the church minutes is a Deed 5 June 1857, GA, Dooly Co, Harmon > Knight to Levi Harrell, Reuben Runnels for the church at Friendship in said > county.... > witnesses were James (his x mark) Holt and Allen Barton > > Lindy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Jeremy Utt's Pate Ancestors > > > > She makes mention of his mother. No doubt this was Temperance Parkerson > > Pate 30 Sep 1782-9 Aug 1865. > > >