Bob I would suggest that you go to the US GenWeb site for Wyandotte County Kansas (Kansas City, KS) and Jackson County Missouri (Kansas City, MO). There is a Kansas, IL in Edgar County. Check the sites for "Lookup volunteers". These folks may be able to point you to some records or even look them up for you. Start here: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks.html You may want to explore the State Archives and Libraries of IL- http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/library/home.html or better http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/archives.html MO- http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/Default.asp/ or http://www.sos.mo.gov/library/ KS- http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/ Click: "Genealogy Resources" link Most states have a Death Index (really an index of death certificates) and many have marriage and divorce indexes. These are usually on some type of micro image format and in printed book form. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:45 AM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Re: [PATE] My Grandfather > Hi Joel - Concerning your reply of Nov. 2003. There have been so many if's > in finding my grandfather Robert H. Pate. If anyone could check records for > Kansas City Missouri, and/or Kansas City Illinois after 1930 either marriage > or death or any other type record it would really help me eliminate that > area. As to his work I just don't know what he could do since my father was > so young when he left. I do know that my father W.B. Pate and his brother > Raymond did some railroad work as laborers when they were in their teens. > Thank You for having this venue for all of us looking into our past. > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> > To: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net>; <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE] My Grandfather > > > > Bob: > > Robert H Pate age 54 and family were enumerated in Curry, Putnam Co West > > Virginia in the 1930 census. The enumeration was made 19 Apr 1930. > > Citation: Enumeration District 40-5, sheet 7B, Curry Twsp, site 128/128. > > I'd say that he was in Curry, WV for at least the first quarter of 1930. > > His occupation was listed as Farmer, apparently self employed on a truck > > farm. > > > > Here is a wild lead for you- > > The English and Canadians had decennial censuses, BUT they made them, not > on > > the decade year, e.g., 1850, but on the first year, e.g., 1851. I think > > that the pattern has continued. So there MAY be a Canadian census for > 1931. > > IF so and IF it is available and IF Robert H Pate was in Canada and IF he > > was enumerated, you MAY be able to trace him. > > > > Do you know if he continued working at farming or related work? > > > > Joel > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net> > > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:55 PM > > Subject: [PATE] My Grandfather > > > > > > > I posted this information a couple of years ago and have exhausted most > of > > the ways to locate him. Jinks has looked a few times and thought it > would > > be good to re-visit, maybe someone can help now. > > > > > > My grandfather Robert Harvey Pate was b.12-22-1876 in Wv. He married > > Gillie Paul, his father was Jabe B.L. Pate b. 3-3-1847, in Va., his > mother > > was Martha Perkins b. 1848-1850. > > > Robert and Gillie had 11 children. About 1930 he left his family and > his > > farm to find work. Some older aunts and uncles indicated that he might > have > > called from Kansas or Missouri (Kansas City). There was also a rumor that > > he had called from Canada. > > > If anyone has found a Pate about that age and cannot connect him to a > > family or if their family started about 1930 or later please contact me. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > Bob Pate + rpate@bellsouth.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >