On 28 Jun 2004 in message 2723 on the Pate venue at Genforum George Thomas Menees wrote I am seeking information regarding Charles Wesley Pate born 1868 in Tenn. Died Dec.10 1947.Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Tom Menees ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On 29 Jun 2004 I posted the following reply. Joel ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Your Charles Wesley Pate 1868-1947 PERHAPS was the son of William Nathan Pate and Mary Selvidge of Trenton PO, Gibson Co TN. William Nathan Pate and Mary F Selvidge married 9 Oct 1867 in Gibson Co TN You may wish to scan the 1870 census of Gibson Co TN, page 267, Trenton PO, site 23/23. W N Pate 34 TN 1836 Mary Pate 27 TN 1843 Charles Pate 2 TN 1868 William Nathan Pate PROBABLY died before the 1880 census was taken. His widow and children appear to have been enumerated in the 1880 census. You may wish to scan the 1880 census Gibson Co TN, page 478, Enumeration district 47, sheet 3, Hickory Grove Twsp, site 19/19 Mary Pate 36 Head WD b TN Charles Pate 11 Son SGL TN Bertha Pate 9 Dau SGL TN The 1890 census burned. In my OPINION Charles Wesley Pate, between 1880 and 1900, relocated to Davidson Co TN and married about 1897. You may wish to scan the 1900 census Davidson Co TN, page 227A, Enumeration district 83, sheet 2, Nashville, site 20/23, 305 North High Street. Enumerated in the household were Thomas MENCES 76 W/M Head MD Physician b TN Jun 1823 Mary MENCES 65 W/F Wife MD b TN Jun 1834 (Married 34y 1/1 children) Three boarders Charles W PATE 32 W/M MD Commission Agent b TN Apr 1868 Mary E PATE 27 W/F MD b TN Dec 1873 (Married 3y 1/1 children) Mary M Pate 1 W/F SGL b TN Jul 1898 Two domestics (record is almost illegible) Sallie Walters Housekeeper Rachel McGown Servant This household was indexed as MENCES, however a closer examination of the microfilm record reflects that the name PERHAPS was MENEES Notes: 1/1 children indicates that the women had one live birth and that child was alive at the time of the census. Charles W Pate APPARENTLY married about 1897 in Nashville, Davidson Co, TN. An Examination of the marriage records of Davidson Co for that time period would be useful. ALSO Another researcher proffers that Charles W Pate was born 17 Apr 1868 to Bolen Green Pate and his wife Mary A Williams of Gibson and later Dyer Co TN You may wish to go to the World Connect Site- http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ and search for Pate, Charles b 1868. The several returns will include Charles Wesley Pate b 17 Apr 1868. You may also use the search screen at World Connect to "jump" directly to the data base. Use the database name -- dyeralsups. You may wish to examine the 1870 census of Gibson Co TN page 256, Quincy PO, site 22/22, household of Bowling Pate. There was not a Charles Pate enumerated in this household. Also you may wish to examine the 1880 census of Dyer Co TN, page 22, Enumeration district 5, sheet 19, Civil district 19, site 176/176, household of B G Pate. There was a Charles Pate age 13 enumerated in this household. I, of course, THINK that my analysis is correct, BUT it may not be. Perhaps the researcher who posted the -dyeralsups- database has a bible or other record that I am not aware of. If you develop further information on this, please share it. end