Thanks Joel - shall do! Jan Roberg'e (nee Pate) -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate [mailto:patej@nettally.com] Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2004 8:41 PM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Australian Cousins Jan and Laurie; Jan, thanks for hanging in with PATE-L and Laurie, welcome Please, to the extent possible, share your exchanges with PATE-L. Most of us can learn more about Australian genealogy. The search techniques are the same, but the available resources are unknown to most of us. We all have one unifying love - the PATE surname. I've already learned one lesson - For you the WA Gen Society is not in the state of Washington in the US, but in Western Australia. Laurie, starting with passenger lists may yield some clues. Also, your John Pate was an Engineer. Often in records there will be hidden clues and even clear cut data. If you find a passenger list and there are several mine workers travelling with John Pate, he perhaps was a mining engineer. How does his arrival in Australia fit in with the history of gold mining? You might see a clear note that he was a marine engineer, a steam engineer or a stationary engineer. Stationary engineers were guys who stood still and ran steam engines, not on railroads or ships, but at fixed points such as sawmills, mines and manufacturing plants. Good luck and keeps us informed. Joel