Hi Karen, Didn't Lucinda Pate remarry to Jacob J. Richards in Coosa Co, AL after Jeremiah's death? Jacob J. Richards had several real estate deals with my ancestor, John Lindsey and his brother Hugh H. Lindsey in Coosa Co, AL and their mother was Nancy Pate who married James Lindsey in Jefferson Co, TN. James Lindsey's family was spread thru Sevier and Jefferson Co's, TN. I still do not know how Nancy Pate and Lucinda or Jeremiah Pate were connected but it would appear they were closely connected in some fashion. I also have a letter from a James H. Pate to John Lindsey that refers to John as his dear cousin. It was written from a Civil War Hospital in Cleveland, Ohio March 12, 1865. There are also church records in Jefferson Co, TN with my James Lindsey's father and brother, John Sr. and Jr. and a Samuel Pate...who is probably related in some fashion..still do not know how though. Best regards, Diana In a message dated 5/30/2006 9:42:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, karenborden@sbcglobal.net writes: Margaret, Unfortunately, we only know his name and a little from some recollections by a family member of stories he was told by his mother, Telita Jane Abbott-Pate, wife of Thomas Pate, the grandson of this Jeremiah. I have verified the data in the history of the places where his grand dad lived with census records and it appears to be very accurate. Here is an extract of the first page of the manuscript titled, "The Pate Family and the Abbott Family, Recollections of Ricahrd Pate": I. "Around the turn of the nineteenth (19th) century, seven (7) Pate brothers left England on a voyage to America. Each of these seven (7) brothers had seven (7) sons." "The town and the date they left England is knot know to me. Some of those Pates settled in and around Sevierville, Tennessee. One of those Pates was my "great grandfather". He was a very rich man. Besides owning a large farm, he owned several "slaves". Also he owned a freight line from Knoxville, Tennessee to Montomery, Alabama. I will mention something about the freight line later." "Now, back to the slave subject - great grand dad was mighty good to his slaves. He fed them same as he had to eat; he made all their clothes - the males - he even made their shoes...also housed them good. I was told that great grand dad only whipped "one" of his slaves. When plowing, she would run the plow-point deep in the ground to stop the team, instead of saying "woah". After being told many times, she still didn't heed what was said, so great grand dad layed the whip to her." II. "As a rich man - income from freight line - great grand dad must have seen the "Civil War" coming. Not trusting the banks, he got all gold, took it home, got his shovel and went to the woods to bury it - not having the forethought to mark the tree. As he was dying, he said to his wife - "I buried it under a chesnut tree." When his wife went to get the gold, she found that the woods was full of chestnut trees. The gold was never found. All the gold that he put in six (6) pack saddles - lost." "After great grand dad's death, his wife, with grandpa at age six (6), moved back home, close to Montgomery, Alabama. Since her home was in Alabama, Great grand dad must have met her on one of his trips to Montgomery, Alabama. Bringing her to Tennessee, they made their home near Sevierville." On the last page is this: "Foregoing was handwritten by Ricahrd Pate during the early months of 1983 in response to a special request from members of his family. It is remembrances of mostly of stories told him by his mother, Telitha Jane Pate." This is the lineage: "Jeremiah Pate" married "Lucinda Pate", his cousin Emmanuel C. Pate b. ca 1821/22 Sevierville, TN md. 1. Permelia Atchley, 2.Elizabeth Jane Roberson/Robinson Thomas Pate b. 1870 Robinson Springs, AL md. Telitha Jane Abbott James Madison Pate b. 1890 Sumiton, AL md. 1. Unknown, 2.Annie Smith Telitha Josephine Pate b. Ellis Co. TX 1914, md Walter Lee Barnes Joyce Faye Barnes b. 1835 Ellis Co TX md Stanley R. Borden So that is really all we know of this great grand dad Richard Pate called "Jeremiah" Pate and his wife Lucinda (his cousin by birth). If anyone has any connections to this family I would enjoy sharing and learning more. Karen Borden in California

Diana, Yes, Lucinda married Jacob J. Richards. I didn't check much in Jefferson Co TN since all the evidence pointed to Sevier and Knox County. Seems like we corresponded some time ago about the Lindseys, did we not? I think I promised to ask about them for you because my husband's mother's aunt told us of a Lindsay that was a preacher friend of theirs or something. I'm sorry I don't think I ever got back to you. Okay I'll try again. I can't do it tomorrow, but the next day or two I'll phone our aunt in TX and see what she can tell me. We have a Samuel Pate who was the son of Thomas Pate and elder brother of our James Madison Pate. This Samuel Pate married Mary Light. He was, as some folks call, a "hardshell Baptist Preacher". I have a pic of him and his wife. I work the polls here in our town at every election. There is a family who lives in my district with the last name of Light. I asked them once where their family was from and they replied AL. I'm pretty sure they're related, but they don't seem too interested in talking much to me about it. Oh well, sad for them. Thanks for the tidbits. Karen in California Icdrose1@aol.com wrote: Hi Karen, Didn't Lucinda Pate remarry to Jacob J. Richards in Coosa Co, AL after Jeremiah's death? Jacob J. Richards had several real estate deals with my ancestor, John Lindsey and his brother Hugh H. Lindsey in Coosa Co, AL and their mother was Nancy Pate who married James Lindsey in Jefferson Co, TN. James Lindsey's family was spread thru Sevier and Jefferson Co's, TN. I still do not know how Nancy Pate and Lucinda or Jeremiah Pate were connected but it would appear they were closely connected in some fashion. I also have a letter from a James H. Pate to John Lindsey that refers to John as his dear cousin. It was written from a Civil War Hospital in Cleveland, Ohio March 12, 1865. There are also church records in Jefferson Co, TN with my James Lindsey's father and brother, John Sr. and Jr. and a Samuel Pate...who is probably related in some fashion..still do not know how though. Best regards, Diana In a message dated 5/30/2006 9:42:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, karenborden@sbcglobal.net writes: Margaret, Unfortunately, we only know his name and a little from some recollections by a family member of stories he was told by his mother, Telita Jane Abbott-Pate, wife of Thomas Pate, the grandson of this Jeremiah. I have verified the data in the history of the places where his grand dad lived with census records and it appears to be very accurate. Here is an extract of the first page of the manuscript titled, "The Pate Family and the Abbott Family, Recollections of Ricahrd Pate": I. "Around the turn of the nineteenth (19th) century, seven (7) Pate brothers left England on a voyage to America. Each of these seven (7) brothers had seven (7) sons." "The town and the date they left England is knot know to me. Some of those Pates settled in and around Sevierville, Tennessee. One of those Pates was my "great grandfather". He was a very rich man. Besides owning a large farm, he owned several "slaves". Also he owned a freight line from Knoxville, Tennessee to Montomery, Alabama. I will mention something about the freight line later." "Now, back to the slave subject - great grand dad was mighty good to his slaves. He fed them same as he had to eat; he made all their clothes - the males - he even made their shoes...also housed them good. I was told that great grand dad only whipped "one" of his slaves. When plowing, she would run the plow-point deep in the ground to stop the team, instead of saying "woah". After being told many times, she still didn't heed what was said, so great grand dad layed the whip to her." II. "As a rich man - income from freight line - great grand dad must have seen the "Civil War" coming. Not trusting the banks, he got all gold, took it home, got his shovel and went to the woods to bury it - not having the forethought to mark the tree. As he was dying, he said to his wife - "I buried it under a chesnut tree." When his wife went to get the gold, she found that the woods was full of chestnut trees. The gold was never found. All the gold that he put in six (6) pack saddles - lost." "After great grand dad's death, his wife, with grandpa at age six (6), moved back home, close to Montgomery, Alabama. Since her home was in Alabama, Great grand dad must have met her on one of his trips to Montgomery, Alabama. Bringing her to Tennessee, they made their home near Sevierville." On the last page is this: "Foregoing was handwritten by Ricahrd Pate during the early months of 1983 in response to a special request from members of his family. It is remembrances of mostly of stories told him by his mother, Telitha Jane Pate." This is the lineage: "Jeremiah Pate" married "Lucinda Pate", his cousin Emmanuel C. Pate b. ca 1821/22 Sevierville, TN md. 1. Permelia Atchley, 2.Elizabeth Jane Roberson/Robinson Thomas Pate b. 1870 Robinson Springs, AL md. Telitha Jane Abbott James Madison Pate b. 1890 Sumiton, AL md. 1. Unknown, 2.Annie Smith Telitha Josephine Pate b. Ellis Co. TX 1914, md Walter Lee Barnes Joyce Faye Barnes b. 1835 Ellis Co TX md Stanley R. Borden So that is really all we know of this great grand dad Richard Pate called "Jeremiah" Pate and his wife Lucinda (his cousin by birth). If anyone has any connections to this family I would enjoy sharing and learning more. Karen Borden in California