I don't know if I have posted this data in a while, so thought I had better do it. -- My primary search is for 2nd great-grandmother: *Margery/Margaret "Martha" PATE*, born 1780-1785, Washington Co. VA [*not* Marjorie EDMONDS b. 1792 TN, d. 1882 MO, who married Minter HOLLOWAY b.1788 TN, migrated to MO abt. 1843. This information does NOT apply to our subjects: John "Minter" HOLLOWAY and MARGERY PATE. - It is easy to be confused with the similar birthdates/names, however, our Margery's father is MATHEW PATE (not Edmonds); and is later confirmed by Ruth Moab's son, MATTHEW PATE SISTLER being a namesake of his maternal grandfather. Also, our Minter and Margery PATE-HOLLOWAY were born about 6 years earlier, and migrated out of TN to IL about 10 yrs. later]. - Margery was married to J. [John] "Minter" HOLLOWAY about 1845, probably in Monroe Co. TN and had 10 children in the 1830 TN Census, before they migrated with some family in early 1853 to southern IL (Pope County). Both Minter and Margery, at that time were about age 70. Ruth Moab's first child, John Minter Holloway, b. 1846 died in infancy. Also, with Minter and Margery were cousins Burton W. HOLLOWAY and his large family. Family records indicate that she: 1. is the daughter of Mathew PATE, b. 1738 and indeed - 2. named her 3rd eldest daughter Ruth Moab Holloway, b. Apr 1824 at Monroe Co, TN. Ruth Moab Holloway is my great-grandmother. - 3. Ruth Moab named her son (my grandfather) Mathew PATE SISTLER, Margery's father and brother were both named "Mathew PATE", and, Mathew named his daughter (my Aunt): Ruth Moab SISTLER. Mathew was b. June 1855 in Pope Co, IL. Ruth Moab HOLLOWAY married Thomas Wm. A. SISTLER/SITZLER, and Ruth Moab's first child, John Minter SISTLER, b. 1846-1850, died young; but she had at least 7 other Holloway-Pate children that survived her. Ruth's only daughter was named, Margery "Martha" SISTLER. - 4. Her brother John A. HOLLOWAY, married Thos. Wm.'s twin sister.... Mary Jane SITZLER, who also migrated to So. IL with other SISTLER/SITZLER, and HOLLOWAY family. - 5. In the 1860 U.S.Census, both Minter and Margery (PATE) HOLLOWAY were elderly and residing with daughter and son inlaw, both at age 77 . Their daughter, Ruth Moab, died in 1862 and Ruth's parents and Holloway-Pate relatives disappear after that time. ================= HERE IS MORE UNRELATED INFO ON PATE families in Southern IL: [my notes, excuse format] --- PATE biographies of Pope County, IL - Historical Society "History and Families 1816-1995": (Volume One) ---> So. IL - PATE search notes: Antonnett "Tony" PATE, pg 231, 305 Carl PATE, pg 231, Corrine PATE, pg 205 Corrine Ovalee PATE, pg 231 Corinne Ovalie PATE, pg 305 Golda (HUNSAKER) PATE, pg 305 Halene PATE, pg 305 Harold PATE, pg 305 Homer PATE, pg 305 Homer Ithiel PATE, pg 231, 305 James M. PATE, pg 305 James Thomas "T.J." PATE, pg 305 Karl PATE, pg. 231, 305 Kathleen (THORNSBERRY) PATE, pg. 231, 305 Lewis PATE, pg. 305 - (not adopted) Lovetta Maxine PATE, pg. 231, 305 *Margery [Margaret?] PATE, pg. 349, 351 Myra (HENDERSON) PATE, pg. 305 Nellie (HART) PATE, pg. 231 Nellie Dott (HART) PATE, pg. 231, 305 Roddie PATE, pg. 305 Suzanne PATE, pg. 231, 305 ==== [page 231] - submitted by Corinne Fulkerson Nellie (HART) married Karl PATE, she was the daughter of John Byrom HART and Mary Melissa "Molly" DIXON at Hartsville, Pope Co, IL. Nellie "Dott" HART-PATE was born Oct 12, 1889, died Oct 20, 1981. Nellie and Karl had three children: Corinne Ovalee, Homer Ithiel (d. 1949) and Lovetta Maxine. After 10 years of marriage, they divorced. Nellie was a school teacher for 29 years. ...Corrine PATE marr. Hughie FULKERSON June 6, 1926; lived near Herod, IL for 40 yrs. ...Maxine PATE marr. RENSHAW and McKUNE. [page 305] - submitted by Corinne Fulkerson (*following the adopted PATE surname...) Re: James M. PATE b. May 1853(adopted son of Mr. and Mrs. Lewis PATE, of Danville, IL) birth-mother, married WILSON, of Hardin Co, IL.; James PATE marr. Myra HENDERSON Dec 1876 (he was age 22, Myra age 16). They had 3 children: Roddie PATE, male/b. 1877; Homer PATE b. 1880; Karl PATE b. 1886. James went to live in Hardin Co, IL after adopted father, Lewis Pate, died. Homer married and had 2 sons before his death in Feb. 1908...James Thomas "J.T." PATE (later moved to Pontiac, Michigan) and Harold who died in Jan. 1908. Roddie settled in Seattle, Washington. Karl PATE marr. Nellie Dott HART and had 3 children: Corinne O. PATE. b. 1910; Homer b. 1915, and Lovetta Maxine PATE b. 1917. After their divorce, he married Golda Hunsaker. =============== 1900 U. S. Federal Census, Pope County, IL (Golconda) Grand Pier Precinct: PATE, James b. May 1854 KY, 46 yrs, marr 23 yrs, par. born IN (farmer) Myra (3 children/3 living), b. Nov. 1861 IL, age 38, marr. 23 yrs. Homer G., b. Nov 1880 IL, age 19, (farm laborer)/no marr. date entered Karl, b. Aug 1886 IL, age 13, (farm laborer) Adda, (DILaw), b. Mar, 1878 IL, age 22, marr. 2 yrs (2 children/1 living) Halean L. (GDau), b. Oct 1899 IL, age 7mos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >SEEKING JAMES PATE'S BIRTH MOTHER< 1860 Hardin Co, IL (no results for "WILSON") ---- *1870* Hardin Co, IL, Monroe - wife, Julia would have been age 41 ----------at James' birth/NO FIT! WILSON, Byron - age 66 - b. abt 1804 IL (Elizabethtown Post Ofc) (only male born before 1838 - subject James b. 1853) wife, Julia, age 58 [abt 1812] VA; children: William, 29 IL; Elizabeth 24 IL; Ann 20 IL; Alexander 12 IL. [ born 5 yrs after James born] ---- *1880* Census Hardin Co, IL, Roseclaire (June, 1879-May, 1880) >Byron WILSON, not listed >William WILSON, listed, b. 1868 HH #302/314 - NANCY POSSIBLY JAMES' birth-mother.... WILSON, Nancy J. - age 35 IL (widowed) b. abt 1845 f. b. IN, m. b. TN WAGNER, Joseph - age 15 IL [1864] (nephew/laborer) parents b. IL Muriel? - age 13 KY [1866] (dau) f. b. KY, m. b. IL Alexander - age 10 IL [1869] (son) f. b. VA, m. b. IL Albert C. - age 5 or 6? [1874] IL (son) f.b. VA, m.b. IL Williams Bristol - age 9 mos IL [b. Sept. 1879] (dau) f.b. PA?, m.b.IL ILLINOIS MARRIAGE INDEX: (Pope County, IL) WILSON, ALPHENS----WAGONER, NANCY J 08/07/1866 00C/0022 POPE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *1860* Vermillion Co, IL , Danville Post Ofc./ - HH #709-709 PATE, Davis - age 37 - IL / farmer Aguine (male) - age 15 - IL *Lewis* - age 13 - IL <abt 1847> Indiana (female) - age 11 - IL Agnes - age 8 - IL Bird (male) - age 7 - IL Scott - age 3 - IL HH# ? MOREHOUSE, Lewis - age 25 IN Elizabeth - age 23 IN PATE, N. L. (male) - age 38 IN PATE, Rebecca, age 27 IN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *1880* Livingston Co, IL, Indian Grove - HH#43/44 PATE, John I. - age 76 - England Mary A. - age 57 - PA Charles - age 24 - PA *Lewis* - age 21 - (school teacher) - PA Clara A. - age 19 - IL William - age 17 - IL Harvey W. - age 13 - IL - HH# 44/45 PATE, Thomas J. - age 39 PA (farmer) Nancy E. - age 31 IL (wife) Otto O. - age 3 IL Myrtle - age 1 IL CAREY, Michael - age 17 Ireland (laborer) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ILLINOIS STATEWIDE MARRIAGE INDEX: - PATE, LEWIS ----FERRELL, MARTHA A (MRS) 01/12/1897 I /46 WILLIAMSON CO. PATE, LEWIS-----ROBERTS, EVELINE 05/09/1851 002/0210 JEFFERSON CO. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- «:::P:::» «:::E:::» «:::A:::» «:::C:::» «:::E:::» Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you. Carol Walter-Robinson, Northwest CA Pacific Coast