I have a record of a Bird Pate b: 1784, Montgomery,,VA; d:15 Jul 1843, Independence, AR; md: 16 Sep 1881; to Rebecca Hankins b: 1802, N. ?; d: abt 1858; children: Jacob Pate b: 18 Mar 1822 Bird's father: Jacob Pate b: 15 Oct 1755; d: 8 Aug 1831 TN; mother: Katherine Fracis "Fanny" b: 1758, VA; d: Bef Dec 1813, TN Just wondering if there is any relationships here. Donna ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 2:00:54 AM Subject: PATE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 196 Today's Topics: 1. Obit - John Robert Pate - b. 1880, d. 1948 and commentary ([email protected]) 2. Obituary for Marvin Pate b. 1908, d. 1950 ([email protected]) 3. Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 ([email protected]) 4. Obituary of Melvin Odell Pate b. 1904, d. 1947 ([email protected]) 5. Re: Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 (Joel Pate) 6. Re: Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 ([email protected]) 7. Re: Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 ([email protected]) 8. Re: Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 ([email protected]) 9. Re: Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 (Gerald Pait) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:52:35 -0400 From: [email protected] Subject: [PATE] Obit - John Robert Pate - b. 1880, d. 1948 and commentary To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" John Robert Pate Pioneer Citizen Passes Away J. R. Pate, who came to Weleetka community in 1900, died at the family home in this city Sunday after being in ill health for several months. Funeral services were conducted by Rev. C. O. Bigbie at the First Baptist church Tuesday afternoon and the internment was made in the Hillcrest cemetery, the Weleetka Funeral Home in charge. John Robert Pate was the son of Bird and Susan Pate of Jamestown, Ark, and was born July 4th, 1880. He married Virginia Cullens in 1899. The family came to Indian Territory in 1900. He had been a member of the Baptist church since a youth. When Mr. Pate came to Weleetka community, he farmed for a number of years, moving to town in 1916. He served as custodian of the Weleetka school property for a number of years until his health failed. Survivors are the wife, Mrs. Virginia Pate; one son, Marvin Pate of Edmond; two sisters, Mrs. J. W. Lassiter of Dallas, Texas, and Mrs. Jennie Barnes of Desha, Ark. and one brother, Bill Pate of Okmulgee. Nita's Notes: I have repeatedly mistakenly stated that J. R. Pate lived and died in Edmond, OK. This obituary states his son Marvin Pate was the one who lived in Edmond, OK. Each of this family's obituaries states Mollie Pate's name as Mrs. J. W. Lassiter. Wonder if she was still married to Mr. Lassiter whereas Jennie Pate is listed as Jennie Barnes, perhaps Jennie's husband had died or she was divorced. Jennie Pate Barnes apparently did not migrate to OK with the others. John Robert Pate, his wife, Virginia (Virgie/Vergie), Marvin and Melvin Pate are buried together in a dedicated plot in the Hillcrest Cemetery. Bird, Susan Hankins Pate, son, Wm. D. (Bill/Willie) and an unnamed baby, buried at Susan Pate's feet, who apparently was born and died in 1931, are buried together in another plot in a separate area of Hillcrest Cemetery. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:03:51 -0400 From: [email protected] Subject: [PATE] Obituary for Marvin Pate b. 1908, d. 1950 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Funeral Rites Held For Marvin Pate Marvin Pate, 42, residing the past years in Edmond, Okla, was born at Hobson, south of Weleetka, April 12, 1908, and died April 24, 1950, suddenly of a heart attack. Mr. Pate's parents, Mr. and Mrs. J. R. Pate moved from Hobson to Weleetka where he graduated from the Weleetka High School. In March 26, 1930, Marvin Pate married the former Miss Madeline Capart, at Weleetka. Funeral Rites for Marvin Pate were held Wednesday, 2:30 o'clock, at the First Baptist Church. Service were under the direction of the Weleetka Funeral Home, with Rev. H. D. Stephens, officiating. Internment was made at the Weleetka Cemetery. Survivors are his wife, Madeline, daughter Phyllis Jean, son, R. T. Pate and mother, Mrs. J. R. Pate. Nita's notes: Wm. D. Pate, brother of J. R. Pate, uncle of Marvin and Melvin Pate, is not noted as a survivor in this obituary also although he didn't die until 1951. The family may not have known where he was and presumed him deceased. Wm. D.'s death certificate states he was living in the Ardmore, OK, Veterans Home for 3 years prior to his death September 14, 1951 at the Veterans Hospital at McKinney, Texas. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:08:13 -0400 From: [email protected] Subject: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pioneer Weleetka Woman, Mrs. Virgie Pate, Dies Tuesday A pioneer resident of Weleetka for 50 years died Tuesday in the Okfuskee Memorial hospital. She was Mrs. Virgie Viola Pate, 76, who died following a heart attack and stroke. Services were Wednesday at 10 a.m. in the Free Will Baptist church with Rev. E. A. Spiller officiating. Mrs. Pate was a member of the First Baptist church. She was born in January, 1881, in Jamestown, Ark. Survivors include only a grandson, Robert Pate, and a granddaughter Mrs. Bill Kale of Edmond and two brothers, Elms (Elmo?) Cullins of Newport, Ark, and John of Bateville, Ark. Burial was in the Weleetka cemetery under the direction of the Spiller funeral home. Nita's note: Mrs. Bill Kale apparently was Phyllis. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:05:38 -0400 From: [email protected] Subject: [PATE] Obituary of Melvin Odell Pate b. 1904, d. 1947 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Former Weleetka Man Passes Away in Texas Melvin Odell Pate, of Snyder, Texas, died at his home Saturday after a brief illness with pneumonia. He was the oldest son of Mr. and Mrs. J. R. Pate of this city. He was born in Weleetka, August 12, 1904. He grew to manhood here at Weleetka, and married Miss Lillian Ellison November 11, 1927. They made their home here until 1929, when they moved to Lucky, Okla., and then in 1938 moved to Eunice, New Mexico. In 1946, they moved to Snyder, Texas. He had been employed in the oil fields for a good many years. Survivors are the parents, Mr. and Mrs. J. R. Pate;, the wife, Mrs. Lillian Pate; and one brother, Marvin Pate of Edmond, and a neice (sic) and nephew. Funeral services were conducted by Rev. C. O. Bigabie (sic), pastor of the First Baptist church, Monday afternoon at 2;30 p.m., and the internment was made in the Hillcrest cemetery, Weleetka Funeral Home in charge. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:12:57 -0400 From: Joel Pate <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Nita Perhaps she was Virginia Viola Cullins "Virgie" Pate b Jan 1881, wife of John Robert Pate who was b 4 July 1880. Her name shows on 12 Sep, 1918 WWI draft card. Joel On 8/16/2010 1:08 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Pioneer Weleetka Woman, Mrs. Virgie Pate, Dies Tuesday > > A pioneer resident of Weleetka for 50 years died Tuesday in the Okfuskee >Memorial hospital. She was Mrs. Virgie Viola Pate, 76, who died following a >heart attack and stroke. > > Services were Wednesday at 10 a.m. in the Free Will Baptist church with Rev. E. >A. Spiller officiating. Mrs. Pate was a member of the First Baptist church. > > She was born in January, 1881, in Jamestown, Ark. > > Survivors include only a grandson, Robert Pate, and a granddaughter Mrs. Bill >Kale of Edmond and two brothers, Elms (Elmo?) Cullins of Newport, Ark, and John >of Bateville, Ark. > > Burial was in the Weleetka cemetery under the direction of the Spiller funeral >home. > > Nita's note: Mrs. Bill Kale apparently was Phyllis. > > > > > -------------------------------P > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >the message > > > -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:00:05 -0400 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Joel, Good to see you back with us. Yes, Virginia "Virgie" Viola Cullins Pate was wife of John Robert Pate, who was son of Bird and Susan Hankins Pate. Several years ago, I obtained these obituaries on the Bird and Susan Hankins Pate's family from Mr. McGarr in Weleetka. For years, Mr. McGarr and his wife scoured newspaper archives both locally and in Oklahoma City, OK, for obituaries of Okfuskee Co., OK, residents and probably for others, also. He was kind enough to share obituaries of both sides of Bill's birth family. At the time I thought Mr. McGarr was being coy with me since what I really wanted was an obituary on Wm. D. Pate, giving us a death date. Apparently there is no obituary for him. When he died in 1951 there may have been no one still alive in the family close enough to him to care. His death certificate, which we recently obtained, states he was shipped back to Weleetka for burial and he is listed as "Bill Pate" in the cemetery records. The one really surprising statement was in Susan Hankins Pate's obituary stating she had 3 sons and 2 daughters. Even Jinks didn't know about the 3rd son. Perhaps it was a still-born or died young. Bird Pate was still living and perhaps gave the obituary information. Thanks for the comments. Sometimes the obits don't give enough information. Sometimes obituaries are a goldmine of information and sometimes they are wrong. I made several vital errors in my own mother's obituary. Once out, difficult to correct. Hope you are recovering well and taking it slow. We need your insight and input. Nita -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 1:12 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 Nita Perhaps she was Virginia Viola Cullins "Virgie" Pate b Jan 1881, wife of John Robert Pate who was b 4 July 1880. Her name shows on 12 Sep, 1918 WWI draft card. Joel On 8/16/2010 1:08 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Pioneer Weleetka Woman, Mrs. Virgie Pate, Dies Tuesday > > A pioneer resident of Weleetka for 50 years died Tuesday in the Okfuskee Memorial hospital. She was Mrs. Virgie Viola Pate, 76, who died following a heart attack and stroke. > > Services were Wednesday at 10 a.m. in the Free Will Baptist church with Rev. E. A. Spiller officiating. Mrs. Pate was a member of the First Baptist church. > > She was born in January, 1881, in Jamestown, Ark. > > Survivors include only a grandson, Robert Pate, and a granddaughter Mrs. Bill Kale of Edmond and two brothers, Elms (Elmo?) Cullins of Newport, Ark, and John of Bateville, Ark. > > Burial was in the Weleetka cemetery under the direction of the Spiller funeral home. > > Nita's note: Mrs. Bill Kale apparently was Phyllis. > > > > > -------------------------------P > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:14:56 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Joel, is that really you?? I sent Linda an email yesterday asking about you.l? If this is really you I am delighted.? You should have given us a warning that you were almost back to normal? Clovis -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate <[email protected]> To: pate <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 Nita Perhaps she was Virginia Viola Cullins "Virgie" Pate b Jan 1881, wife of John Robert Pate who was b 4 July 1880. Her name shows on 12 Sep, 1918 WWI draft card. Joel On 8/16/2010 1:08 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Pioneer Weleetka Woman, Mrs. Virgie Pate, Dies Tuesday > > A pioneer resident of Weleetka for 50 years died Tuesday in the Okfuskee Memorial hospital. She was Mrs. Virgie Viola Pate, 76, who died following a heart attack and stroke. > > Services were Wednesday at 10 a.m. in the Free Will Baptist church with Rev. E. A. Spiller officiating. Mrs. Pate was a member of the First Baptist church. > > She was born in January, 1881, in Jamestown, Ark. > > Survivors include only a grandson, Robert Pate, and a granddaughter Mrs. Bill Kale of Edmond and two brothers, Elms (Elmo?) Cullins of Newport, Ark, and John of Bateville, Ark. > > Burial was in the Weleetka cemetery under the direction of the Spiller funeral home. > > Nita's note: Mrs. Bill Kale apparently was Phyllis. > > > > > -------------------------------P > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:16:49 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Amen Nita.? We do need him.? He just don't know how much. -----Original Message----- From: n5bry <[email protected]> To: pate <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 Hi Joel, Good to see you back with us. Yes, Virginia "Virgie" Viola Cullins Pate was wife of John Robert Pate, who was son of Bird and Susan Hankins Pate. Several years ago, I obtained these obituaries on the Bird and Susan Hankins Pate's family from Mr. McGarr in Weleetka. For years, Mr. McGarr and his wife scoured newspaper archives both locally and in Oklahoma City, OK, for obituaries of Okfuskee Co., OK, residents and probably for others, also. He was kind enough to share obituaries of both sides of Bill's birth family. At the time I thought Mr. McGarr was being coy with me since what I really wanted was an obituary on Wm. D. Pate, giving us a death date. Apparently there is no obituary for him. When he died in 1951 there may have been no one still alive in the family close enough to him to care. His death certificate, which we recently obtained, states he was shipped back to Weleetka for burial and he is listed as "Bill Pate" in the cemetery records. The one really surprising statement was in Susan Hankins Pate's obituary stating she had 3 sons and 2 daughters. Even Jinks didn't know about the 3rd son. Perhaps it was a still-born or died young. Bird Pate was still living and perhaps gave the obituary information. Thanks for the comments. Sometimes the obits don't give enough information. Sometimes obituaries are a goldmine of information and sometimes they are wrong. I made several vital errors in my own mother's obituary. Once out, difficult to correct. Hope you are recovering well and taking it slow. We need your insight and input. Nita -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 1:12 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 Nita Perhaps she was Virginia Viola Cullins "Virgie" Pate b Jan 1881, wife of John Robert Pate who was b 4 July 1880. Her name shows on 12 Sep, 1918 WWI draft card. Joel On 8/16/2010 1:08 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Pioneer Weleetka Woman, Mrs. Virgie Pate, Dies Tuesday > > A pioneer resident of Weleetka for 50 years died Tuesday in the Okfuskee Memorial hospital. She was Mrs. Virgie Viola Pate, 76, who died following a heart attack and stroke. > > Services were Wednesday at 10 a.m. in the Free Will Baptist church with Rev. E. A. Spiller officiating. Mrs. Pate was a member of the First Baptist church. > > She was born in January, 1881, in Jamestown, Ark. > > Survivors include only a grandson, Robert Pate, and a granddaughter Mrs. Bill Kale of Edmond and two brothers, Elms (Elmo?) Cullins of Newport, Ark, and John of Bateville, Ark. > > Burial was in the Weleetka cemetery under the direction of the Spiller funeral home. > > Nita's note: Mrs. Bill Kale apparently was Phyllis. > > > > > -------------------------------P > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:02:44 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Gerald Pait" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 To: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" When it comes to Joel, back to normal is a relative term. "one who can't spell his last name" -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 8/16/2010 4:15:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 Joel, is that really you?? I sent Linda an email yesterday asking about you l? If this is really you I am delighted.? You should have given us a warning that you were almost back to normal? Clovis -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate &lt;[email protected]> To: pate &lt;[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] Obituary - Virgie Viola Pate b. 1881, d. 1957 Nita Perhaps she was Virginia Viola Cullins "Virgie" Pate b Jan 1881, wife of John Robert Pate who was b 4 July 1880. Her name shows on 12 Sep, 1918 WWI draft card. Joel On 8/16/2010 1:08 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Pioneer Weleetka Woman, Mrs. Virgie Pate, Dies Tuesday > > A pioneer resident of Weleetka for 50 years died Tuesday in the Okfuskee Memorial hospital. She was Mrs. Virgie Viola Pate, 76, who died following a heart attack and stroke. > > Services were Wednesday at 10 a.m. in the Free Will Baptist church with Rev. E. A. Spiller officiating. Mrs. Pate was a member of the First Baptist church. > > She was born in January, 1881, in Jamestown, Ark. > > Survivors include only a grandson, Robert Pate, and a granddaughter Mrs Bill Kale of Edmond and two brothers, Elms (Elmo?) Cullins of Newport, Ark, and John of Bateville, Ark. > > Burial was in the Weleetka cemetery under the direction of the Spiller funeral home. > > Nita's note: Mrs. Bill Kale apparently was Phyllis. > > > > > -------------------------------P > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the PATE list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the PATE mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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