I agree. He could be considered famous but from everything I have found, he is NOT a hero the family could be proud of. He was a very vindictive man, was not thought highly of by his peers and it wasn't until the last battle he fought in did Jeb Stuart decide he was a good soldier. Obviously, he is in our family history, but I do not support placing him in the same company as famous Pates. Maybe a new category of infamous Pates. I would like to ask if the young man who raced in the Tour de France is included on our list? Jerry Pait -------Original Message------- From: AJ Date: 5/25/2010 9:48:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate When we were compiling the list of Famous Pate's, Henry Clay Pate was discussed as a possible honoree. Though he undoubtedly displayed bravery on occasion, we felt that his overall record was rather checkered and undistinguished. His main claim to fame was leading a military unit to capture John Brown. The humiliating result was losing to John Brown's smaller ragtag "army" in two hours and having to surrender himself. Those interested can learn more about him here: http://kansasboguslegislature org/mo/pate_h_c.html This appears to be an article biased against him, but nevertheless contains enough factual information to arrive at a conclusion. A. J. Pate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message