I, too, have been very concerned about these disagreements. We all have them, but they need to be 'disagreed' in private emails. Today even, I have seen names of people( giving their regards to Joel) I didn't know were on this list (lurkers as some referred to themselves as I am most of the time). I enjoy the emails, no matter what branch, and I enjoy the tidbits of history or sentiments of even people I don't know. But I do NOT enjoy these arguments. Disagreeing because information doesn't jive is one thing,( and discussing them to find correct answers) but arguing against someone's feelings and privacy is disgusting when it is continued over & over for all to be involved. I am embarrassed as a part of this Pate list for people who are too sensitive and wants to air it in public, what should be done, if done at all, in private. The end of this 'grandma's life lesson. Now I choose to forget the past and start anew! This group of Pates help bring joy into my life, and takes me places. Since 1991, I have driven by car, all over the USA, to NC ocean shores to Oregon shores and one trip into Mexico. I live in South Georgia. I just had my 63 birthday. I've not made it to New York but I've gotten close and plan to fly to Canada for my sons wedding ( I'm planning or hoping)and I'm going to try to see New York as I fly over!. Some of this was for research, most of it pleasure done before I started all my branches of reseaching. My mom and I, and my youngest son in 1992 or '93), drove up to Missouri and followed the Oregon trail ( we were on our own, not on a tour). This was when my mom told me that I was related to one of the Lewis/& Clark explorers. Now when I learn where YOU Pates are located, I can feel it if I've been to their area ! I can't drive on adventures any more, not much farther than over the county line,& some days my aches & pains want let me out of the house, so on this Pate Listserve, I'm still traveling !!!!!!!!! Lets keep it enjoyable so all will want to take the ride! Johnette Pate McDuffie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:49 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Genealogical Inquiries on the Pate Listserve A. J. I agree with you whole heartedly. While I am so glad Joel is making good progress I am very sad about some the things that have been happening on the Listserve. I just got a private email from Elsie Sikes and she said I could share this on the List. She said she could not stand all the bickering and was unsubscribing to the Pate List serve. I hope no one else feels this way. We could lose a lot of knowledgeable Pate researchers if this continues. So I am asking again that we should think before we post on the the List. Let's concentrate on helping each other all we can while Joel is out of commission. Please and Thank you. Covis -----Original Message----- From: AJ <[email protected]> To: Pate-L <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 9:43 am Subject: [PATE] Genealogical Inquiries on the Pate Listserve In Joel's absence, everyone who can contribute should make an effort to answer inquiries or questions that may be posted. Just be conscientious in making clear whether your information is documented or not. You have likely noted how thorough Joel is on making these distinctions. Please include the sources of your information where you can. Most of the burden may fall to Clovis Herring. I will attempt to help where/when I can, but I am not even in the same league as Joel and Clovis. I acquired an interest in genealogy very late in the game, and most of my efforts have been directed to my own family line, and recently expanded to the whole Thoroughgood Pate family line which I belong to. I can answer most questions relating to the Pate DNA Project and genetic (DNA) genealogy. I will help as much as I can with questions on the Thoroughgood family line. Before posting inquiries on the Listserve, I suggest that you do the following: -- Search the archives of this Listserve to see if your question has already been answered -- Search the home page of the late Jinks Pate-Lee at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~patefamily/index.htm -- For the Thoroughgood Pate line, search "The Descendants of Thoroughgood Pate [d. 1713]" maintained by Joe Scarborough at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=thoroughgoodpate&i d=I2 -- Search the "Pate Pioneers", available on CDs (as I just posted) A. 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