couldn't have said this better Clovis. we need Joel----many of us would not have the links we have without Joel's help, and many others too---we ARE family, so let's all forgive any we think has offended us, and not let the enemy of our lives divide us! deborah --- [email protected] wrote: From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Joel and Family Bickering Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:02:34 -0400 (EDT) ?We do miss Joel and need him. Now to address the bickering. We can make statements about what we think or feel but we can do it without bickering. Pates are capable of being polite, well spoken, and having a discussion without getting mad. Of course we need to make documented corrections and put ideas and thoughts out so others can give their opinion. I don't carry the Pate name. But I do have Pate blood in my veins. Many people that don't carry the Pate name are Pate's and do research. So, I don't expect that anyone that is on this listserve is here just because it's fun. They are here to meet, share and help each other find their roots. We can do that with thoughtful unoffensive words. Why don't we put this one to bed now. Let's just forget it and concentrate on helping each other the best we can until our Hero Joel gets back on his feet. Please & Thank You Clovis -----Original Message----- From: DMPate <[email protected]> To: pate <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 11:43 am Subject: Re: [PATE] Joel and Family Bickering Joel!  Pls get well soon!  We miss and need you! Bickering!  Q:  How do you know if a Pate is related?  A:  They bicker about anything!   That's what we do all to much; however, that's among us!  Don't let anyone not in the Pate bloodline get involved because they will be crucified with extreme prejudice.  It that a good thing?  NO! But discourse and discussion is, so let's be as civil as we can be but yet let's not drop the discourse because that's how we correct errors and find out just "who is who"! ________________________________ "we's in trouble. We must carry our glorious philosophy through to its glorious culmination! So that in the end, with enterprise and determination, the world and everything in it will belong to one individual Me! And that will be the ultimate! The absolute ultimate!" so sez The Imperial Me ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I quite agree. Just a thought from some materials in training for mediation: Instead of implying or saying: "You're unreasonable!", "I don't quite get it, is this what you mean? "........." or I may be wrong, but I wonder . . . . Can you help me?" On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:04 PM, "" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: > > couldn't have said this better Clovis. we need Joel----many of us > would not have the links we have without Joel's help, and many > others too---we ARE family, so let's all forgive any we think has > offended us, and not let the enemy of our lives divide us! > > > > deborah > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PATE] Joel and Family Bickering > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:02:34 -0400 (EDT) > > ?We do miss Joel and need him. > > Now to address the bickering. We can make statements about what we > think or feel but we can do it without bickering. Pates are > capable of > being polite, well spoken, and having a discussion without getting > mad. > Of course we need to make documented corrections and put ideas and > thoughts out so others can give their opinion. I don't carry the Pate > name. But I do have Pate blood in my veins. Many people that don't > carry the Pate name are Pate's and do research. So, I don't expect > that anyone that is on this listserve is here just because it's fun. > They are here to meet, share and help each other find their roots. We > can do that with thoughtful unoffensive words. Why don't we put this > one to bed now. Let's just forget it and concentrate on helping each > other the best we can until our Hero Joel gets back on his feet. > Please & Thank You > Clovis > -----Original Message----- > From: DMPate <[email protected]> > To: pate <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 11:43 am > Subject: Re: [PATE] Joel and Family Bickering > > Joel! Pls get well soon! We miss and need you! > > Bickering! Q: How do you know if a Pate is related? A: They bicker > about > anything! > That's what we do all to much; however, that's among us! Don't let > anyone not > in the Pate bloodline get involved because they will be crucified with > extreme > prejudice. It that a good thing? NO! But discourse and discussion > is, > so let's > be as civil as we can be but yet let's not drop the discourse because > that's how > we correct errors and find out just "who is who"! > > ________________________________ > > "we's in trouble. We must carry our glorious philosophy through to its > glorious > culmination! So that in the end, with enterprise and determination, > the > world > and everything in it will belong to one individual Me! And that > will be > the > ultimate! The absolute ultimate!" so sez The Imperial Me > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PATE- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PATE- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message