Joel!  Pls get well soon!  We miss and need you! Bickering!  Q:  How do you know if a Pate is related?  A:  They bicker about anything!   That's what we do all to much; however, that's among us!  Don't let anyone not in the Pate bloodline get involved because they will be crucified with extreme prejudice.  It that a good thing?  NO! But discourse and discussion is, so let's be as civil as we can be but yet let's not drop the discourse because that's how we correct errors and find out just "who is who"! ________________________________ "we's in trouble. We must carry our glorious philosophy through to its glorious culmination! So that in the end, with enterprise and determination, the world and everything in it will belong to one individual Me! And that will be the ultimate! The absolute ultimate!" so sez The Imperial Me