You are so right, Clovis... My sincere apologies to Joe Neal and to the group. I may not have been tactful when pointing out Joe's assumption that what we are doing will cost anyone any money! IT WILL NOT. Also, I apologize if no one else understood this from the git-go, too. I understood it when John posted about it, so I apologize to the group if no one else understood it - and I assumed they should have since I did. Oh - and I also apologize for whatever else there is to apologize for! :) We are all really "family" here - linked by some ancestor(s) somewhere - and families have squabbles within them sometimes. I never mean to offend anyone on purpose, as I am sure no one ever really means to offend me on purpose! Let's *please* get back on topic with this now. . . John asked for suggestions for a photo-sharing place where we could share our photos and documents that cannot be shared as attachments via this mailing list. John is taking these suggestions and uploading pics and docs to the suggested places and asking me to check and download and report what I find. We are JUST TESTING at present. NOTHING is going to cost anyone any money unless they OPT IN for an upgrade to a premium acct.! We are looking for FREE VENUES only - and that is all we are testing. If any of you have not read the FAQ for the places we are testing and you ASSUME it is going to cost you money - then that is your fault for not reading the FAQ and you should not be scaring the group into thinking it will cost them money when it will not - not unless someone decides to opt into the premium subscription and this would be their personal choice, not for the whole group! So if you have any suggestions for any other FREE photo-sharing places, please feel free to suggest them and we will test them! Thanks to all who are in favor of this endeavor, too. :) Much appreciated! Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test Sometime something written sounds different when spoken. I am hoping that each of us takes this into account when reading something on the List serve. We all need to be a little bit more thoughtful when responding to each other. There is no need to write harshly and offend each other and make others think we can't all work together in an polite way. We will not get very far if we get mad at each other and people leave the group. I hope there will be an apology forthcoming from Laynie to Joe Neal and from Joe Neal to Laynie. Come on guys. We are all working toward finding our ancestors. Let's not spoil it by saying things that are not necessary. Clovis -----Original Message----- From: JoeandCarolPate <[email protected]> To: pate <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 2:32 pm Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test Laynie You don't wish to discuss the issue privately but thru an open forum only. Proceed without me and no further input will be forthcoming. Now everyone on the net work knows. Joe Neal In a message dated 7/27/2010 3:18:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: No, Joe Neal - what I don't understand is the logic behind you adamantly stating that something we suggest costs money when it is FREE and when John is merely (right now) testing places for us to use that are FREE. If you don't want to join in with those of us who DO want to be able to share our pictures and scanned docs with other researchers in this way, then please - just stop putting everything down as it costing money. We are looking and testing FREE venues only - not anything that will cost anyone a dime without them OPTING IN for some type of premium account! Thanks, Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test Laynie, Apparently you do not comprehend the logic of reasons for not publishing may data the way you would like. Suggest you contact me on my direct e-mail at: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) in lieu airing your complaint with the entire Pate network. Joe Neal In a message dated 7/26/2010 9:05:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: OK, great - nice to hear that more personally and less commercially is your reasoning for not wanting to share your research photos or old family photos, Joe Neal. That's fine - each to their own, but it seems rather selfish [to me] for any of us to keep old photos and research a secret from anyone else searching who may not know HOW to contact and ask you or any of us for information or photos! They just might be the party that has something to offer us that we might be looking for! If I may ask - less commercially than WHAT exactly? Less commercially than this site with a photo and Pait/Pate family history that is publicly/commercially accessible and COSTS A FEE? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~patepaitfamily/pait.html Just wondering... Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test I have never taken the time to count my photo copies of people, places, tombstones, documents (with a good digital camera you can copy just about anything). A good scanner, if not in memory, can accomplish a specific request for those in my family line. Plus a specific request is handled more personally and less commercially. Joe Neal In a message dated 7/26/2010 2:59:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Not free? Good grief! It's FREE up to 500 photos - how many photos do you need to share for heaven sake??? This list allows NO attachments! Surely you would not expect someone to mail all their photos to you and everyone else on this list in private email when there is something they want to share with everyone! So your 'thanks but no thanks' was you just saying you don't care to use Dropshots or see anyone else's photo shares on there, either - which is so very sad. There are a LOT of microfilms and captures of old documents that some of us have which can be shared on there - which cannot be shared on this list - yet might be of HELP to some on this list! Nobody is trying to replace this list - NO WAY!! We are just trying to FIND A PLACE to share pictures since this list doesn't allow HTML or any attachments! Pick your own place to share - I just SUGGESTED DropShopts to John - there are many other places like that. Picasa is free and run by Google - use that if you don;t like DropShots. Just Google for FREE PHOTO SHARING and there are all kinds of places to be sharing from - each person can pick their own place to share what they want and post the link to the list! Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [PATE] DropShots Test DropShots isn't free and is just another way to run your monthly fees with very little return. Thanks but no thanks! In a message dated 7/26/2010 9:41:20 A.M. 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