This issue comes up from time to time and I provide the link to the British College of Arms. This is the government website that governs Arms. http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/ Arms are not granted to Families, but to individuals. As such, there is NO Pate Family Coat of Arms. There are many websites that display Arms, which are associated with surnames. This is one: http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/pate-family-crest.htm I do not recommend this site, just included it as an example. If you're feeling Scottish, there is a Scottish Clan, MacLabhruinn or MacLaren, that includes the Pate or Patrick surname: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_clans/clan_maclaren/ Again, I'm not recommending this website, but I find it an interesting read. I joined Clan Gunn, based upon my parents surnames. Both Robinson and Wilson are seps of Clan Gunn. Any Pate or Pate descendant would be considered for membership in Clan MacLabhruinn. It would also be proper to wear the clan badge and tartan. This is the Clan MacLaren Society of North America: http://www.clanmaclarenna.org/ I would rather be a Scottish Warrior than a British Lord. Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Either peace or war)

Very interesting, John, thanks for the lesson! There are many cross-references in my own Pate (maternal side) of the family with the name 'McLauren' - so could that also be part of that same Scottish Clan? Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Robinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:30 AM Subject: [PATE] British Coat of Arms This issue comes up from time to time and I provide the link to the British College of Arms. This is the government website that governs Arms. http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/ Arms are not granted to Families, but to individuals. As such, there is NO Pate Family Coat of Arms. There are many websites that display Arms, which are associated with surnames. This is one: http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/pate-family-crest.htm I do not recommend this site, just included it as an example. If you're feeling Scottish, there is a Scottish Clan, MacLabhruinn or MacLaren, that includes the Pate or Patrick surname: http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_clans/clan_maclaren/ Again, I'm not recommending this website, but I find it an interesting read. I joined Clan Gunn, based upon my parents surnames. Both Robinson and Wilson are seps of Clan Gunn. Any Pate or Pate descendant would be considered for membership in Clan MacLabhruinn. It would also be proper to wear the clan badge and tartan. This is the Clan MacLaren Society of North America: http://www.clanmaclarenna.org/ I would rather be a Scottish Warrior than a British Lord. Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Either peace or war) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Am I right in understanding that any person with the Pate surname could apply for membership in the Clan MacLaren? That is what I thought I read. Please let me know. Also, would membership be available to people descended from a Pate family line? My mother was a Pate by birth. Unfortunately, at this point I do not know whether my Pate line was Scottish, English, Welsh, or French (or any other origin). Perhaps a fellow member of the Thoroughgood Pate DNA group could enlighten me. Jeremy Utt > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:02:05 -0400 > Subject: Re: [PATE] British Coat of Arms > > Very interesting, John, thanks for the lesson! > > There are many cross-references in my own Pate (maternal side) of the family > with the name 'McLauren' - so could that also be part of that same Scottish > Clan? > > Laynie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Robinson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:30 AM > Subject: [PATE] British Coat of Arms > > > This issue comes up from time to time and I provide the link to the British > College of Arms. This is the government website that governs Arms. > > http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/ > > Arms are not granted to Families, but to individuals. As such, there is NO > Pate Family Coat of Arms. > > There are many websites that display Arms, which are associated with > surnames. This is one: > > http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/pate-family-crest.htm > > I do not recommend this site, just included it as an example. > > If you're feeling Scottish, there is a Scottish Clan, MacLabhruinn or > MacLaren, that includes the Pate or Patrick surname: > > http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_clans/clan_maclaren/ > > Again, I'm not recommending this website, but I find it an interesting read. > I joined Clan Gunn, based upon my parents surnames. Both Robinson and Wilson > are seps of Clan Gunn. > > Any Pate or Pate descendant would be considered for membership in Clan > MacLabhruinn. It would also be proper to wear the clan badge and tartan. > This is the Clan MacLaren Society of North America: > > http://www.clanmaclarenna.org/ > > I would rather be a Scottish Warrior than a British Lord. > Aut Pax Aut Bellum > (Either peace or war) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4