Judith R. Hahn, age 71, of Chesterfield, passed away November 9, 2012. She was a member and active in church activities at St. Michael Episcopal Church, Grosse Pointe Woods and formerly at St. Marks in Detroit. Judith enjoyed taking care of her family,playing cards, games and Yahtze. Beloved wife of Norman, loving mother of Kevin ( Geralyn), Lisa Sparks and Kurt (Julia). Dear grandmother of Denise, Stacey, Courtney, Collin, and Angela. Dear great-grandmother of Madison, Isabelle, Jordan and Landon. Dear sister of Sheryl (Mike) Youngblood and sister-in-law of Carolyn (Richard) Hutchins, Janet (David) Pate, Kenneth (Frances) Hahn and Cynthia (Keith) Van Houzen. Visitation Sunday, November 11, 2-8 p.m. at Gendernalik Funeral Home, 35259 23 Mile Road, New Baltimore. Instate Monday 10:30 a.m. until 11 a.m. service at St. Michael Episcopal Church, 20475 Sunningdale Park, Grosse Pointe Woods. Memorials may be made to the American Cancer Society .

Virginia Warner Pate, 82, of Williamsburg passed away November 2, 2012. She was preceded in death by two husbands, Arthur Cayley Davis Jr. and Walter Thurston Pate. She was an active member of Bruton Parish Episcopal Church. Virginia was a native of Washington, D.C. She graduated from National Cathedral School and then received a BA in English from Bryn Mawr College. She and her husband retired to Williamsburg in 1993. Virginia is survived by her son, John Dern (Erin); daughter, Lisa Davis Wuthrich (Paul); grandchildren, Jeremy, Graham, Annalie, Davis and Ashley. A funeral service will be held at 1:00 p.m. on Saturday, November 10 at Bruton Episcopal Parish Church, 331 W. Duke of Gloucester Street, Williamsburg, VA 23185. Interment will follow at Peninsula Memorial Park. In lieu of flowers, donations can be made to Bruton Parish, P.O. Box 3520, Williamsburg, VA 23187. Online condolences may be offered at www.bucktroutfuneralhome.net Published in Virginia Gazette from November 6 to December 5, 2012 Picture available at http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/vagazette/obituary.aspx?n=virginia-warner-pate&pid=160903736&fhid=13608#fbLoggedOut.

DEBARDELABEN, MAE CALHOUN Age 73, passed away November 6 after a prolonged illness. Born in Piney Woods, Alabama just outside of Northport, Mae was the youngest of five sisters and one brother. She attended Tuscaloosa County High School before moving on to the University of Alabama, where she graduated with a BS in Education and a Masters of Science in Home Economics. She worked as a teacher in various school systems and later was named Assistant Dean of the School of Home Economics at the University of Alabama. She and her family later moved to Birmingham where she was Director of Development at UAB before retiring in 1995. A devoted wife and mother of three, she is survived by her husband, W.D. 'Dil' DeBardelaben, Jr., her three children Lisa Benfield, Warren DeBardelaben and David DeBardelaben. She also leaves behind five grandchildren: Tyler Benfield, Chris Benfield, Ren DeBardelaben, Ryan DeBardelaben and Lauren DeBardelaben. She was predeceased by her brother Jim Calhoun and is survived by her sisters Dorothy Farmer, Betty Pate, Beatrice Watson and Shandry Dorroh. Mae was a person of strong character and faith. Fun loving and incredibly bright, she rarely lost a game of cards or Scrabble. She inspired everyone she met to succeed, but still laughed at the inevitable setbacks. A memorial service will be held at St. Stephens Episcopal Church at 2:00 pm November 9. In lieu of flowers, the family would appreciate donations be made to the St. Stephens Memorial Fund. Published in The Birmingham News from November 7 to November 9, 2012

Grady Edwin Averett Mr. Grady Edwin Averett of Geneva, Alabama passed away Monday, November 5, 2012 at Flowers Hospital. He was 88. Funeral services will be at 3:00 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012 in the chapel at Sorrells Funeral Home in Enterprise with Elder Fred Averett and Rev. Gene Hauser officiating. Burial will follow in the Meadowlawn Cemetery with Sorrells Funeral Home directing. The family will receive friends at the funeral home on Thursday from 1:30 pm until service time. Flowers will be accepted or donations may be made to Friendship Baptist Church, c/o Angelyn Bowdoin, 444 RC Collins Rd., Chancellor, AL 36316. Mr. Averett was born September 5, 1924 in Dale County, AL to the late Henry Grady and Evie Love Byrd Averett and was raised in the Haw Ridge Community in what is now the Ft. Rucker Reservation. He started farming in Level Plains in the mid 1940's and married Sarah Jeanette Auston on February 1, 1944. They bought a farm in Enterprise in 1953, where they resided until 1967. During this time he became known as an excellent peanut farmer, winning numerous production awards, including the 1967 Alabama Peanut Farmer of the Year. In 1968 he and his family moved to Geneva, AL where he continued to farm row crops in Geneva and Coffee counties. Ed's farming, and particularly peanut farming practices, continued to be a standard that his peers strived to attain up until his retirement in 1989. After retirement he was able to let his love of farming wane and enjoy his love of dove hunting and tend to his prolific gardening. In addition to his parents, Mr. Averett was preceded in death by a brother, Dolan Averett and two sisters, Ennis Byrd and Bessie Merle Cain. Survivors include his wife of 68 years, Sarah Jeanette Auston Averett, Geneva, AL; one son and daughter-in-law, Edwin Lamar "Eddie" and Dawn Averett, Chancellor, AL; three grandchildren: Ashley Nicole Powell (Robin), Chancellor, Mallory Kay Mixon (Phillip), Geneva, Warren Tate Sutherland, Auburn, AL; five great-grandchildren: Auston Lane Walden, Chancellor, Ava Caroline Mixon, Geneva, Ethan Drake Powell, Ashley Nichole Powell, and Emily Grace Powell, all of Chancellor; two sisters: Edna Earl Byrd (Roscoe), Enterprise, AL, Elizabeth Pate (Wayne), Birmingham, AL; several nieces and nephews. Serving as pall bearer will be Jerry Byrd, Gary Bryan, Ronnie Moore, Robin Powell, Phillip Mixon and Tate Sutherland. Sorrells Funeral Home of Enterprise, (334) 347-9598, is in charge of arrangements. To sign a guest register, please visit www.sorrellsfuneralhomes.com. Sign the guest book at www.dothaneagle.com Picture available at http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dothaneagle/obituary.aspx?n=grady-edwin-averett&pid=160911917&fhid=6324#fbLoggedOut.

Evelyn Joan Shaw 90 of 1008 Sequoia Drive, Strasburg, Ohio passed away after suffering from a heart attack and stroke on Nov. 6, 2012 at Community Hospice in New Philadelphia surrounded by her loving family and friends. She was born Nov. 8, 1922 in Stone Creek, Ohio to the late Isidor and Florence Miller Hanni. Evelyn married Harry Shaw, her husband of 66 years, on Dec. 22, 1945. They have six children, Raynola (Paul) Little of Wainwright, Ohio, Sarah (Morris) Pate of Douglasville, Ga., Phillip (Gale) Shaw of Port Charlotte, Fla., Harry Jr. (Nancy) Shaw of Strasburg, Ohio, Leonard (Tammy) Shaw of Powder Springs, Ga., Lloyd Shaw of Dallas, Ga.; and daughter-in-law, Barbara Shaw of Dover, Ohio; 14 grandchildren, Alicia Weaver, Molly (Ben) Watkins of New York, Melinda (Greg) Garmon, Doug (Brandi) Shaw, Drew (Natalie) Shaw, Danielle Shaw, Phillip Shaw of Georgia, Stacy (Joe) Niewohner of Colorado, Wayland (Amber) West, Drexel (Tabitha) West, Rusty West, Jeremy Shaw, Aaron (Valerie) Shaw and Jonathan Shaw of Ohio; 15 great-grandchildren. She is survived by two sisters, Marilyn (Ben) Shaw and Martyne McPherson; a brother, David (Mary) Hanni. She is preceded in death by five brothers, Richard Hanni, Melvin Hanni, Alfred Hanni, Wayne Hanni and Wade Hanni; as well as several brothers and sisters-in-law. Evelyn had a strong faith in God and an unconditional love for her family. Her life was an influence to all those she came in contact with. She loved reading her Bible, traveling and spending time with her grandchildren. Services will be held in the chapel at Toland-Herzig Funeral Home & Crematory in Dover on Saturday, Nov. 10 at 11 a.m., officiated by Greg Swenson, Carlton Schooley and Irving Ross. Calling hours will be held on Friday from 6-8 p.m. and one-hour prior to services on Saturday. Burial will be at St. Jacob's Cemetery, Stone Creek with a reception to follow at the Masonic Temple, next to the funeral home, in Dover. In lieu of flowers, the family requests donations be made to Community Hospice, in memory of Evelyn Shaw, 716 Commercial Avenue SW, New Philadelphia, OH 44663 or St. Jacob's Cemetery Association, c/o Raynola Little, 1918 Wainwright Road SE, New Philadelphia, OH 44663. Those unable to attend or wishing to share a fond memory of Evelyn may sign the online register book by visiting the "Obituaries & Flowers" link on the funeral home's website.   Published in The Times Reporter on November 8, 2012 Picture available at http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/timesreporter/obituary.aspx?n=evelyn-joan-shaw&pid=160928214#fbLoggedOut.

Danna Mann Death Notice   A son was born to Mildred Lee Mann (Ford) and the late Ray Cecil Mann on May 20, 1950.They named him Dana Ray Mann. He grew up and received his early education in Houston, Texas. He accepted Christ at an early age and was Baptized at Progressive New Hope Baptist Church in Houston Texas. He later moved to Odessa Texas and completed his High School education. He graduated from Ector High School in 1968. He attended College in Denver Colorado and Midland Texas, pursuing Business Administration. He married young, his first wife Audrea Faye Rand .To this Union was born one child, Dana Charlanese Mann. Later he chose his Life Mate, May Francis Carr. Unto this union was born three sons, Ray Alexander Mann, Christopher Melvin Mann and Damien Mann. Dana was preceded in death by his son Damien Mann and his Grandmother Bertha Mae Pate. He leaves to Cherish his memory one daughter, two sons, seven grandchildren, His loving wife May Mann, His Mother Mildred Ford, his sister Regina Cole, his nephew Trevor Cole and a host of relatives and friends. A visitation is set for Thursday November 8, 2012 from 6:00 - 8:00 P.M. at Thomas Funeral Home Chapel. Funeral Service is set for Friday November 9, 2012 at 11:00 A.M. at Thomas Funeral Home with Rev. Julius Jones Officiating. I nterment will follow at Fairview Cemetery. Services are under the direction of Thomas Funeral Home.

BIRMINGHAM Mae Calhoun DeBardelaben, age 73, passed away November 6, 2012, after a prolonged illness. Born in Piney Woods, Alabama, just outside of Northport, Mae was the youngest of five sisters and one brother. She attended Tuscaloosa County High School before moving on to the University of Alabama, where she graduated with a B.S. in Education and a Master of Science in Home Economics. She worked as a teacher in various school systems and later was named Assistant Dean of the School of Home Economics at the University of Alabama. She and her family later moved to Birmingham where she was Director of Development at UAB before retiring in 1995. A devoted wife and mother of three, she is survived by her husband, W.D. “Dil” DeBardelaben Jr., and her three children, Lisa Benfield, Warren DeBardelaben, and David DeBardelaben. She also leaves behind five grandchildren, Tyler Benfield, Chris Benfield, Ren DeBardelaben, Ryan DeBardelaben, and Lauren DeBardelaben. She was preceded in death by her brother, Jim Calhoun, and is survived by her sisters, Dorothy Farmer, Betty Pate, Beatrice Watson, and Shandry Dorroh. Mae was a person of strong character and faith. Fun-loving and incredibly bright, she rarely lost a game of cards or Scrabble. She inspired everyone she met to succeed, but still laughed at the inevitable setbacks. A memorial service will be held 2 p.m. Friday, November 9, 2012, at St. Stephens Episcopal Church. In lieu of flowers, the family would appreciate donations to the St. Stephens Memorial Fund. Published in Tuscaloosa News on November 8, 2012

GRIFTON - Lillian Taylor Conner Pate, 93, of 5217 Tick Bite Road, died Monday, Nov. 5, 2012, at Glendale Forest Nursing Home in Snow Hill. Graveside services will be at 1 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 8, at Pinelawn Memorial Park. Survivors include daughters Ann Smith of Grifton, Margaret Price of Kinston; three grandchildren; five great-grandchildren; and one great-great-grandchild. The family will received friends following the service and other times at the home. Arrangements are by Edwards Funeral Home. Published in Free Press from November 7 to November 10, 2012

WILLIAMSBURG - Virginia Warner Pate, 82, of Williamsburg, Va., passed away on Nov. 2, 2012. She was preceded in death by two husbands, Arthur Cayley Davis Jr. and Walter Thurston Pate. She was an active member of Bruton Parish Episcopal Church. Virginia was a native of Washington, D.C. She graduated from National Cathedral School and then received a BA in English from Bryn Mawr College. She and her husband retired to Williamsburg in 1993. Virginia is survived by her son, John Dern (Erin); daughter, Lisa Davis Wuthrich (Paul); grandchildren, Jeremy, Graham, Annalie, Davis and Ashley. A funeral service will be held at 1 p.m. Saturday, Nov. 10, at Bruton Episcopal Parish Church, 331 W. Duke of Gloucester Street, Williamsburg, VA 23185. Interment will follow in Peninsula Memorial Park. In lieu of flowers, donations can be made to Bruton Parish, P.O. Box 3520, Williamsburg, VA 23187. Online condolences may be offered at www.bucktroutfuneralhome.net View and post condolences on our online guestbook at dailypress.com/guestbooks. Published in Daily Press from November 7 to November 8, 2012 Picture available at http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailypress/obituary.aspx?n=virginia-w-pate&pid=160913490&fhid=13608#fbLoggedOut. Also Published in Virginia Gazette from November 6 to December 5, 2012. Picture available at http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/vagazette/obituary.aspx?n=virginia-warner-pate&pid=160903736&fhid=13608#fbLoggedOut.

Roger "Half Pint" Pate Chandler, Ind. Roger "Half Pint" Pate,60, passed away Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2012 at Deaconess Gateway Hospital. Roger was a drummer for the Renegades Country Band for most of his adult life. He was an avid pool player and active in many benevolent organizations and liked Karaoke. Surviving Roger is his companion, Donna Williams of Chandler, Ind. mother, Shirley Burton (Don) of Evansville, Ind. daughter, Heather Kaiser of Chandler, Ind. and son, Joshua Pate of Evansville, Ind., step daughter, Michelle (Doug) of Evansville, Ind., five grandchildren; Tyler & Christian and Kayla, Nathaniel and Brittny, two great grandchildren, Drake and Nevaeh, one sister, Katherine Mattingly (Paul) of Evansville, Ind., one brother, Bruce Pate (Jill) of Evansville, Ind. Visitation was held at Koehler Funeral Home-Perigo Chapel, 7022 Heim Road, Chandler, Ind. A Celebration of life Service will be held at a later date. Condolences and any special remembrance may be made online at www.koehlerfuneralhome.com. Published in Courier Press from November 7 to November 9, 2012 Picture available at http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/courierpress/obituary.aspx?n=roger-pate&pid=160909699#fbLoggedOut. 

Thanks for the reply, Johnette. I don't know if you (or others) are aware of Bill Love's post on Jinks' Guest Book here: http://books.dreambook.com/jinks1/main.html He apparently has DNA matches with the Thoroughgood Group. You have to scroll down quite a bit because the post was made on 15 Feb 2011. Best, April -----Original Message----- From: pate-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pate-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jpmcduffie03@mediacombb.net Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:20 AM To: pate@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PATE] J H Pate and Nancy I Love 27 Oct 1885 Vol F, page 301 - Brazos Co., TX There were also Pate - Love marriages in Rev William Pate's line. Johnette Pate McDuffie ----- Original Message ----- From: "April Johnson" <aprilwho@windstream.net> To: pate@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:15:34 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [PATE] J H Pate and Nancy I Love 27 Oct 1885 Vol F, page 301 - Brazos Co., TX Thanks, Joel. The Pate-Love marriages piqued my interest. So far, I've found three different Pate lines with a Love connection--Edward, Thoroughgood, and now John 1787 SC. Also, there was some kind of Pate-Love connection with the Matthew Pate who died in 1809 in Greene Co., Tennessee. Best regards, April

PATE, LAURENCE H. "Larry"; of Bloomfield Hills; died October 6, 2012; age 87. He is survived by his wife, Joan (Jo); children, Steven (Teresa Wojciechowski), Michael (Marcia Heronemus), and Judi (Carlos Rodriguez); grandsons, James (Meagan Anderson), and Andrew; and sister, Mary E. Keiser. He served in the U.S. AAF from March 1943 through February 1946. He graduated from Michigan State College in 1950 with a degree in Civil Engineering. He was President of Pate, Hirn and Bogue, Consulting Engineers until his retirement in 1995. There will be no public services. A.J. Desmond & Sons. -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE Pate@RootsWeb.com A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers

There were also Pate - Love marriages in Rev William Pate's line. Johnette Pate McDuffie ----- Original Message ----- From: "April Johnson" <aprilwho@windstream.net> To: pate@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:15:34 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [PATE] J H Pate and Nancy I Love  27 Oct 1885  Vol F, page 301 - Brazos Co., TX Thanks, Joel.   The Pate-Love marriages piqued my interest.  So far, I've found three different Pate lines with a Love connection--Edward, Thoroughgood, and now John 1787 SC.  Also, there was some kind of Pate-Love connection with the Matthew Pate who died in 1809 in Greene Co., Tennessee. Best regards, April                 -----Original Message----- From: pate-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pate-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joel Pate Sent: Thursday, To: PATE-L@rootsweb. com Subject: [PATE] J H Pate and Nancy I Love 27 Oct 1885 Vol F, page 301 - Brazos Co., TX For April Johnson, Dan Franklin and Green Hall I have not been able to identify and place the J H Pate who married Nancy I Love  in Brazos Co.,  TX in 1885. ............................................ April:  You are correct.  Joshua Pate was a son of John Pate and Susannah Allen, who married 19 Jun 1813 in Morgan Co., GA You are also correct in your observation in another aspect of this Pate family.  Joshua Pate had an older brother, Isham Polk Pate 1822-1895. Isham Polk Pate was the progenitor of the Pate DNA Project participant with the unique Haplogroup E1b1b1. Joel -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE Pate@RootsWeb.com A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

DAN i think the John Pate age abt 8 in the 1870 Grimes Co., TX is an excellent candidate to be the J H Pate who married Nancy I Pate 1885 in Brazos Co.,TX I think that Nancy I Love appears (age3 ) in the 1870 census of Madisonville, Madison Co., TX and the 1880 census of Brazos Co., TX, (age 13). She seems to be the daughter of James M Love and Caroline Banks. I think the "I" in her name is for "Ida", but that is more guess than documented fact. Brazos and Grimes are contigous and share a county line of several miles. If Nancy Love was a Brazos girl, it makes sense that she would marry a local lad from an adjoining county. Where was he in 1880? What happened to them? Joel -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE Pate@RootsWeb.com A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers

I have not been able to locate John Pate b.1862, TX and his family in the 1880 census.   Dan ________________________________ From: Joel Pate <patej@nettally.com> To: "PATE-L@rootsweb. com" <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:03 AM Subject: [PATE] J H Pate and Nancy I Love 27 Oct 1885 Vol F, page, 301 - Brazos Co., TX - 10/26/2012 DAN i think the John Pate age abt 8 in the 1870 Grimes Co., TX is an excellent candidate to be the J H Pate who married Nancy I Pate 1885 in Brazos Co.,TX I think that Nancy I Love appears (age3 ) in the 1870 census of Madisonville, Madison Co., TX and the 1880 census of Brazos Co., TX, (age 13).  She seems to be the daughter of James M Love and Caroline Banks.  I think the "I" in her name is for "Ida", but that is more guess than documented fact. Brazos and Grimes are contigous and share a county line of several miles.  If Nancy Love was a Brazos girl, it makes sense that she would marry a local lad from an adjoining county. Where was he in 1880?  What happened to them? Joel -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE Pate@RootsWeb.com A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Joel. The Pate-Love marriages piqued my interest. So far, I've found three different Pate lines with a Love connection--Edward, Thoroughgood, and now John 1787 SC. Also, there was some kind of Pate-Love connection with the Matthew Pate who died in 1809 in Greene Co., Tennessee. Best regards, April -----Original Message----- From: pate-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pate-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joel Pate Sent: Thursday, To: PATE-L@rootsweb. com Subject: [PATE] J H Pate and Nancy I Love 27 Oct 1885 Vol F, page 301 - Brazos Co., TX For April Johnson, Dan Franklin and Green Hall I have not been able to identify and place the J H Pate who married Nancy I Love in Brazos Co., TX in 1885. ............................................ April: You are correct. Joshua Pate was a son of John Pate and Susannah Allen, who married 19 Jun 1813 in Morgan Co., GA You are also correct in your observation in another aspect of this Pate family. Joshua Pate had an older brother, Isham Polk Pate 1822-1895. Isham Polk Pate was the progenitor of the Pate DNA Project participant with the unique Haplogroup E1b1b1. Joel -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE Pate@RootsWeb.com A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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The marriage in Brazos County did not have any bondsmen.  I did not write down the name of the minister conducting the wedding.   I've wondered if J H Pate might be the same person as the John Pate, who died on 1 Apr 1894 in Brazos County.   I also found in the 1870 census of Grimes County (which is adjacent to Brazos County):   William Pate  b. abt 1836, GA Mary   b. abt 1840, AL John  b. abt 1862, TX Andy  b. abt 1864, TX Susan  b. abt 1866, TX   I do not know anything else on this family.  Could the John in 1870 Grimes County be J H Pate and the John, who died in 1894?   Dan ________________________________ From: Joel Pate <patej@nettally.com> To: "PATE-L@rootsweb. com" <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:35 PM Subject: [PATE] J H Pate and Nancy I Love 27 Oct 1885 Vol F, page 301 - Brazos Co., TX For April Johnson, Dan Franklin and Green Hall I have not been able to identify and place the J H Pate who married Nancy I Love  in Brazos Co.,  TX in 1885. Dan: Perhaps the marriage license has additional clues.  Who were the bondsmen, who was the officiant? I feel certain that this couple are not the Joshua Pate who married Nancy Jane Love in Tuscaloosa Co., AL about 1856. Nancy Jane Love Pate was enumerated: 1860 Tuscaloosa Co., AL Joshuway and Nancy 1870 Tuscaloosa Co,, AL Nancy Pate apparent widow 1880 San Jacinto Co., TX Nancy Pate. widow Her individual summary, from file AL57 Individual Summary 25 October 2012 Name: Nancy Jane Love Sex: Female Individual Facts Birth 10 Feb 1830 Pickens Co, AL Misc 10 Feb 1830 (age 0) daughter of John O'neill Love and Eliza Jane McDowell of Spartanburg, SC Census 1860 (about age 30) Tuscaloosa Co., AL Census 1870 (about age 40) Tuscaloosa Co., AL Census 1880 (about age 50) San Jacinto Co., TX Death 19 Jan 1895 (age 64) Marriages/Children 1. Joshua Pate (1830-1870) Marriage abt 1856 (about age 26) AL Children Emily Pate (1857- ) Alexander Pate (1859- ) did not marry of have issue Lucinda Pate (1861- ) Notes Notes: Nancy Jane Love Census (1860): Page 646, Bell's, site 428/403 Census (1870): Page 273, Sipsey, site 36/38 Census (1880): Enum Dist 149, sheet 3B, site 39/39 April:  You are correct.  Joshua Pate was a son of John Pate and Susannah Allen, who married 19 Jun 1813 in Morgan Co., GA You are also correct in your observation in another aspect of this Pate family.  Joshua Pate had an older brother, Isham Polk Pate 1822-1895. Isham Polk Pate was the progenitor of the Pate DNA Project participant with the unique Haplogroup E1b1b1. Joel -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE Pate@RootsWeb.com A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PATE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For April Johnson, Dan Franklin and Green Hall I have not been able to identify and place the J H Pate who married Nancy I Love in Brazos Co., TX in 1885. Dan: Perhaps the marriage license has additional clues. Who were the bondsmen, who was the officiant? I feel certain that this couple are not the Joshua Pate who married Nancy Jane Love in Tuscaloosa Co., AL about 1856. Nancy Jane Love Pate was enumerated: 1860 Tuscaloosa Co., AL Joshuway and Nancy 1870 Tuscaloosa Co,, AL Nancy Pate apparent widow 1880 San Jacinto Co., TX Nancy Pate. widow Her individual summary, from file AL57 Individual Summary 25 October 2012 Name: Nancy Jane Love Sex: Female Individual Facts Birth 10 Feb 1830 Pickens Co, AL Misc 10 Feb 1830 (age 0) daughter of John O'neill Love and Eliza Jane McDowell of Spartanburg, SC Census 1860 (about age 30) Tuscaloosa Co., AL Census 1870 (about age 40) Tuscaloosa Co., AL Census 1880 (about age 50) San Jacinto Co., TX Death 19 Jan 1895 (age 64) Marriages/Children 1. Joshua Pate (1830-1870) Marriage abt 1856 (about age 26) AL Children Emily Pate (1857- ) Alexander Pate (1859- ) did not marry of have issue Lucinda Pate (1861- ) Notes Notes: Nancy Jane Love Census (1860): Page 646, Bell's, site 428/403 Census (1870): Page 273, Sipsey, site 36/38 Census (1880): Enum Dist 149, sheet 3B, site 39/39 April: You are correct. Joshua Pate was a son of John Pate and Susannah Allen, who married 19 Jun 1813 in Morgan Co., GA You are also correct in your observation in another aspect of this Pate family. Joshua Pate had an older brother, Isham Polk Pate 1822-1895. Isham Polk Pate was the progenitor of the Pate DNA Project participant with the unique Haplogroup E1b1b1. Joel -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE Pate@RootsWeb.com A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers