Can you help me identify this man? Holmes County Advertiser Saturday 16 Dec. 1911 Volume # 20 Killed at Black, Ala. Millard Pate, a popular young man residing at Black, Ala., was shot and killed at that place Friday night of last week. Pate, Bud Jacobs and Sam Keith were at the schoolhouse acting as a committee to decide a debate and while they were deliberating over the subject in a room separated from the main auditorium, the shot was fired that sent young Pate into eternity. It has been reported that Sam Keith has been arrested and charged with the crime, but it is not known what the result was in the preliminary hearing held at Black. Max Yates xamilil@wfeca.net

----- Original Message ----- From: <P8je@aol.com> To: <JinksP@juno.com> Cc: <patej@nettally.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:20 AM Subject: 94th birthday...Marvin Pate Marvin Pate celebrates 94 th Home Folks Ruth Baker Published October 10, 2002 9:26 PM CDT We wish a happy 94th birthday to Marvin Pate of the Lupton community. He was born to James W. and Martha McCullar Pate on October 12, 1908. The family lived at Poplar Springs in Winston County. When he was two, his mother passed away leaving his father with six children to rear. Later, his father remarried Mattie Elliott and four more children were born. Marvin never knew his birth mother, but he was blessed with a stepmother who was always dear to his heart. Today, Marvin and sister, Eula Piper, are the sole survivors of the family. The Pates are noted for their longevity. James W. lived to 87, Mattie, lived to 101, two brothers reached 94 and the other one 97. Marvin attended Poplar Springs School, which was a one-room school at that time. One teacher taught grades 1-6. After school, he worked in the fields helping the family make a living. Not many children of that era were able to go to high school. Of necessity, they quit school to find work to survive. At age 16, Marvin's grandfather John Newton Pate passed away. He left his farm near Fall City to his wife Silvanie Raines Pate and his two daughters, Talitha and Mary. Since farming was their means of survival, Marvin joined them for two years and helped raise corn, cotton, hay, sugar cane, as well as large gardens and livestock/poultry. The workdays were long ones from daylight to dark. Sunday was the only day of rest as they attended church. Neighbors and friends helped them when slaughtering hogs or bringing in the crops. Marvin married Nellie Curtis, daughter of Joel and Malinda Curtis, of Black Pond. Theirs was a marriage "made in heaven" and lasted 66 years. They were blessed with a daughter, Louise, in 1934. After marriage, Marvin was employed by Milford Curtis. He hauled lumber from his sawmill in Double Springs to Bob Carr Lumber Co. in Jasper. The truck did not have a cab for protection from the weather. It had just seats and windshield and during rainstorms, you could hardly see the road. In freezing weather, conditions got rough. The winters were more severe in the 1930's. The ground would freeze and spew up and snow was common. Our vehicles had to be protected so the radiator and engine block had to be drained every night. During travel, radiators had to be partially covered to prevent freezing. At 5 a.m. in the morning, ice had to be broken to get water to fill the radiator. Mule and wagon was the principle form of travel in Walker and Winston Counties in those days. The roads were dirt or gravel and always contained large mud holes in rainy weather. A workday consisted of 12-14 hours daily. Nellie would arise at 4 a.m. to prepare breakfast after the fires were started in the wood stoves. One was for cooking, the other for heating. She made biscuits, salt pork (sow belly), redeye gravy, coffee, sorghum syrup, and butter. She packed a dinner pail for lunch with fried eggs, salt pork or sausage in biscuits. With this, butter and syrup would be mixed in a small jar. (Cholesterol was not a word to us and we didn't worry about what it did to our health.) Our dinners and suppers consisted mostly of vegetables. Our meals would not be complete without cornbread and buttermilk. On rare occasions when a hen would stop laying, we would have chicken and dumplings. That is a dish Nellie was known for in the community. Marvin's next job was driving a truck for Joseph (Jody) Lee of Thach. His brother, Marshall, was already working for Mr. Lee, who was highly respected in the community. He was praised for using local men on his farm and sawmill. Marvin could not serve in the Armed Forces during WWII due to personal injuries. He contributed to the war effort by working with DuPont Powder Company in Childersburg, Alabama, manufacturing gunpowder for the Department of Defense. After the war, Marvin worked at the sawmills and farming until he and Nellie bought land and built a house at Crossroads near Redmill. They moved from Winston County and later began another career. His brother, John, was working with Bankhead Coal Company and he joined the crew as oiler on the shovel that moved the earth from the seam of coal. He then became a bulldozer operator for the company building roads for the coal trucks and removing ground surface. He stayed on this job until retirement in 1974. Nellie started her own business sewing and installing draperies throughout the area after Marvin's retirement. They decided to sell the house at Crossroads and build a new home next to daughter Louise Pate Cook on the Lupton Road. This was a wise decision for all concerned. Nellie became ill and died two years after moving. Louise was her caregiver until she passed away. Marvin lives there in the house and under Louise's watchful eyes, continues to garden, keep house, and do some cooking. His turnip greens are growing there now. He enjoys three grandchildren: Randy and Tommy Cook, and Nancy Cook Edgil; four great-grandchildren, Jim Cook, Brittany Cook, Lindsey Gann and Chad Edgil; and three step-great-grandchild, Josh, Jamie and Kevin. He attends Edgil Grove Southern Baptist Church and often speaks of the congregation as his second family. They supported him as he made the transition following the death of his soul mate of 66 years. He still reminisces about the "Good Ole Days," but does not look at the past as being a time of just struggle and hard times. He remembers best the good things of those years. Yes, Marvin Pate has seen life from mule and wagon to televisions and computers. His life has almost spanned the entire mechanical and electronic revolution. (Information provided by nephew, James "Jim" Pate of San Antonio, Texas.) We add our congratulations and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Mr. Marvin Pate. (R.B.) Ruth Baker is a retired school teacher, an author and historian, living in Townley, . Her column appears in the Daily Mountain Eagle on Friday. You can e-mail her at hrbaker@sonet.net. COPYRIGHT ® 2002 Daily Mountain Eagle, a division of Cleveland Newspapers, Inc. All rights reserved. The information contained herein is protected by the copyright laws of the United States. The copyright laws prohibit any copying, redistributing, retransmitting, broadcasting or repurposing of any copyright-protected material. The Daily Mountain Eagle 1301 East Viking Drive Jasper, AL 35501

Carol Some of the Pate families in Harrison Co IA came out of the Caesar Creek Township, Dearborn Co, IN. They also were in Clinton Co IA Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Tolley" <ctolley1@earthlink.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: [PATE] Pates in Harrison Co, IA > Since Anster seems like such an unusual name, I thought this might be of > interest to someone? > > RAGLAN TOWNSHIP excerpts from the 1891 Harrison County History Raglan > Township was constituted in 1857. > "Anster PATE settled on section 23, in 1854. He died after the Civil War > closed. Jacob PATE came at the same time and finally moved to "Sandy > Point," where he died in the '80s." > > Harrison Co, IA is on the western border of IA and NB. This was taken > from rootsweb.com/~iaharris/twp/twpragla.htm > > Carol > >

I am looking for info on Charlie/Charles Calder/Caulder NC/SC area who may have been a cousin of Robert Everette Pate-1877. Charlie Calder married Sarah Bessie Therrell. They moved to VA with Robert E. Pate...Judie Henry, P. O. Box 1375, Chesterfield, VA 23832

Since Anster seems like such an unusual name, I thought this might be of interest to someone? RAGLAN TOWNSHIP excerpts from the 1891 Harrison County History Raglan Township was constituted in 1857. "Anster PATE settled on section 23, in 1854. He died after the Civil War closed. Jacob PATE came at the same time and finally moved to "Sandy Point," where he died in the '80s." Harrison Co, IA is on the western border of IA and NB. This was taken from rootsweb.com/~iaharris/twp/twpragla.htm Carol

----- Original Message ----- From: <cearle@joink.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: [PATE] Help > I hope you can help me. Back about two months ago I had contact with one of > my PATE relatives. His name is Bob. After a really bad car wreck which put > me in the hospital for almost a month, I am finally back on line. Due to a > pc crash, thanks to my kid :) and linux mandrake. I lost everything > including all my addresses. I need to find this kind gentleman whom I met > at the Bloomfield Indiana Library a matter of hours before the accident. If > he subscribes to this list, will he please contact me at my joink. com > address? My best to all. Remember, when you stop at a stop sign, don't > always assume that the person coming the other way will also stop. Drive > safe. > cj > >

Jinks Was Johnson Pate perhaps a son of Cordy Pate of NC and Oglethorpe Co GA? The orphans of Cordy Pate won a land lot in Early Co in the 1820 Georgia Lottery. Cloey Pate, widow of a RS (Cordy) was eligible to draw in the 1821 Lottery and the orphans of Cordy did draw in the 1821 Lottery and won a land lot in Henry Co. The 1820 land was lot 144, District 6, Early Co. The 1821 land was lot 220, District 9, Henry Co. Ownership of these two pieces of land (440 acres net) would be recorded when the winners took possession or when it was sold the first time. If Johnson Pate's name or his guardian's name appears on any of those old deeds, it would go a long way toward substantiating his parents' names. Joel

Not an answer to your question, but a little more Pate data, Coweta Co GA... Coweta Co GA Tax Digests 1845-1848, 1854-1857, 1861 [GDAH microfilm 169/74] 1845 Capt Smith's Dist (Cedar Creek) Pate, Johnson 1855 691 Militia Dist, 1st District Pate, James M, 1 poll, 100a, #247 1st Dist Coweta There may have been more Pate entries & more information on the above entries. I just happened to notice these two while looking for my Adam Rish family & made brief notes. Lindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jinks Lee" <jinksp@juno.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: [PATE] Brick Walls: Johnson Pate (AL39) > Johnson Pate, b. 4 May 1801 GA, d. 11 Oct 1873 Fayette Co, GA > md (1) 26 Jan 1822 to Rebecca Hurt > (2) 3 Mar 1857 to Martha Elizabeth Fountain > > This family was in 1830 Hall Co, GA; 1840 Meriweather Co, GA; > 1850 Coweta Co, GA; 1860 & 1870 Fayette Co, GA > > Who were Johnson's parents?? > Jinks > >

Beverly This William H Pate is, no doubt, the man who married Lucinda Canady 26 Nov 1846. One source suggests they married in Itawamba Co MS (Book 2, Page 130, by John Wylie, JP). Another source suggests that they married in Tishomingo Co. I go with Itawamba Co. This William H Pate was born in Mississippi not Michigan. He also was enumerated in the 1860 census of Tishomingo Co Page 114, Carrollville, site 763/763 William H Pate 39 MS Lucinda Pate 37 TN Almeda Pate 12 AL Mary Pate 8 MS Given two facts, i.e., 1) other Pate-Canady marriages in the Tuscaloosa-Pickens Co AL area 2) some of their children being born in AL, I would conclude that this William H Pate was from the Tuscaloosa Pate lines. They also were enumerated in the 1870 census of MS, but the were in Prentiss Co. Page 372, Boonville, site 203/204. There was another William H Pate who appeared in the 1860 census of Tishomingo Co MS. Page 452, Burnsville, site 3045/3045. William H Pate 23 AL Rebecca Pate 21 MS Mary J Pate 1 MS This man is probably James William Henderson Pate who married Rebecca Washburn 28 Sep 1858 in Tishomingo Co MS. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Aytes-Bowhall" <ay8tes2@highland.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: [PATE] Pate's in MS and AL > I found this on the MS 1850 census for Tishomingo Co MS. > > Wm H. Pate age 29 bn in MI ( don't make sense) > Lucinda age 25 bn AL > Almeda A. age 1 bn AL > Frances J. age 2/12 mo's bn MI > >

These Pate's are from Bedford Co, VA-1850 William H. Pate age 26, bn in VA, Merchant (in home of James Cauper) ````````````````` Cornelius Pate age ?2 bn in VA, Merchant ( unable to read age) Mary ?? age 25 bn in VA Eliza age11 bn in VA Mary S. age 1 bn in VA

Parsilla Pate age 73 bn SC Ruthy Ann age 11 bn AL

I found this on the MS 1850 census for Tishomingo Co MS. Wm H. Pate age 29 bn in MI ( don't make sense) Lucinda age 25 bn AL Almeda A. age 1 bn AL Frances J. age 2/12 mo's bn MI

Johnson Pate, b. 4 May 1801 GA, d. 11 Oct 1873 Fayette Co, GA md (1) 26 Jan 1822 to Rebecca Hurt (2) 3 Mar 1857 to Martha Elizabeth Fountain Children: Richard M Pate, b. 25 Jan 1825 Jasper Co, GA, d. 13 Jan 1906 md Nancy Mobley Zachariah Pate, b. 1829 GA, d. 5 Oct 1862 md Lou Agnes -- Henry Mitchell Pate b. c 1834 GA md Emily Jane Pyron Letha Pate b. 1835 GA md Aaron Deshashiers Milly Pate b. 1837 GA md Joseph F Hayse Samuel Pate, b. 1838 GA, d. 13 May 1907 md Delila Haase Nancy Pate, b. 1842 md William T Knoles Josephine Pate, b. 1857 Margaret A Pate, b. 1860 GA Virginia M Pate, b. 1862 Fayette Co, GA Sarah E Pate, b. 1866 Fayette Co, GA This family was in 1830 Hall Co, GA; 1840 Meriweather Co, GA; 1850 Coweta Co, GA; 1860 & 1870 Fayette Co, GA Who were Johnson's parents?? Jinks

Joshua W Pate b. Oct 1869 AL/TN?, d. 1937 md (1) Irene Clark (2) Mary Florence Underwood Children: Ira J Pate b. 1906 Virgil Angus Pate b. c 1908 There are said to be 3 other children, evidently born after the 1920 census: Martha Jane Pate, b. Jan 1920 Mary Pate Rilda Pate, b. Dec 1927 The family was in 1900 and 1910 Tunica Co, MS. Does anyone have info on this family? Jinks

Jeremiah Elijah Pate b. 6 Nov 1852 Miller Co, GA; d. 28 Oct 1912 md (1) Sarah D Winters (2) Martha Rebecca Thomasson, b. 30 Dec 1858, d. 3 Apr 1930 Children: Mary Lula Pate, b. 25 Oct 1878, d. 13 Jun 1909 md Crocket E Powers Lola Evaline Pate, b. 19 Oct 1880 md Warren W Everett Georgia Idonia Pate, b. 10 Dec 1882 md Elbert G Pierce Sarah Lucy Pate, b. 29 Mar 1885, d. 3 Aug 1955 md Wes Everett William Washington Pate, b. 30 Jan 1887, d. 1890 Bertha Paralee Pate, b. 30 Dec 1890 md John Hart Minnie Lea Pate, b. 8 Feb 1895, d. 20 Jul 1920 md Reed Randolph Jeremiah E's death certificate shows he was b. 6 Nov 1852 in Miller Co, GA; was murdered 28 Oct 1912; His Father was William Pate, b. GA and Mother, unnamed, b. Fayette Co, TX The family was in 1880 Lavaca Co, TX and from 1900-1920 in Callahan Co, TX. Can anyone connect Jeremiah to a William Pate from GA??? Jinks

I hope you can help me. Back about two months ago I had contact with one of my PATE relatives. His name is Bob. After a really bad car wreck which put me in the hospital for almost a month, I am finally back on line. Due to a pc crash, thanks to my kid :) and linux mandrake. I lost everything including all my addresses. I need to find this kind gentleman whom I met at the Bloomfield Indiana Library a matter of hours before the accident. If he subscribes to this list, will he please contact me at my joink. com address? My best to all. Remember, when you stop at a stop sign, don't always assume that the person coming the other way will also stop. Drive safe. cj

Joseph Pate b. c 1815 IN/IA md (1) Catherine Bentley b. 1828 IA (2) Elizabeth (-- Jones?) b. 1825 OH Children: William C Pate b. 1845 IA Mary Jane Pate b. 1847 IA Martha Ann Pate b. 1848 IA Sarah E Pate b. 1850 IA Caroline Pate b. 1854 IA Emily Pate b. 1858 IA John Pate b. 1860 IA Elizabeth (1825) was possibly the widow -Jones, there were 2 children in the 1860 census - Mary Jones b. 1843 and Julien Jones b. 1850. This family was in 1850 and 1860 Dubuque Co, IA Jinks

John Pate b. c 1817 NC md Mary -- b. c 1823 NC Childen: Benjamin Lee Pate, b 9 May 1843 TN, d. 30 Nov 1916 Mary E Pate b. 1845 TN Martha Pate b. 1846 TN John H Pate b. 1848 MS Nancy Pate b. 1851 MS James A Pate b. 1852 John & Mary Pate were in 1850 Marshall Co, MS Benjamin Lee Pate moved to Pulaski Co, AR by 1880 Jinks

Dear Joel, The only differences that we found were, Shekel, Shakel. But as you can see we have a bit of indifference about exactly who was Mary Shikle Pate. The soundex code is S240. I think we are all one step away from yanking our hair out about this one. Thanks for helping us!!! Tina

Jinks Thanks for all the info on Jacob PATE. I am not convinced that Jacob PATE is Jesse's father, but it is possible. Just haven't convinced myself of it yet. Jacob says in the census's that he was born in VA. Jesse says he was born in Buncumbe, NC. The road from VA to NC is one other names in my family have made, so that is still okay. You have Jacob listed in the IA census in 1840-1850. He is also there in 1860, in Raglan, Harrison, IA, pg 780. He states his age as 70. In the 1870 IA census, Jacob is listed as 81 yrs, Emily is 58, and there are still children at home. Other Pates, who seem to be his children are living nearby. In 1870, the township boundaries may have changed or he moved to Clay Twp, Harrison, IA (pg 25). Jacob gives his age over the census years so that appears he must have been born between 1789-1792, or thereabout. Jesse was born in 1814. So Jacob was probably between 22-25 yrs when Jesse was born. If you look in Sagamon Co, IL after 1820, Jesse, Riley, Wm, and Redding PATE are all their voting. I don't know what happened to Redding PATE. You don't have any info on these PATEs do you? As for Jesse PATE...he is in JoDavies Co, IL (The Territory) mining until 1836 and moved to Jackson Co, IA not far from JoDavies Co. His two children George Washington PATE was born in 1837 and is considered to be if not the first white child born there, then as close as you can get to it. There was a daughter, Lorinda, b. 1839. She is my gr gr grandmother. I am not sure when Jesse died, but it was before Apr 1846 when Lorinda married Harrison Huling. This was the census you couldn't quite make out. His last name somestimes is listed as Hulin. Other PATE researchers have tried to steer me to a Wm PATE who was from TN as Jesse, Redding, Wm and Riley's father. There are a lot of PATEs in southern IL in the 1820's-1830's. Thanks for the wedding date of Emily and Jacob. Let me know what you think or if you have any other ideas. Carol