Jinks: I think the middle initial is N or even Ne but not M. compare it to the Mary about 6 lines up. This guy started his M letters low (for the most part) The character here is started high. I see the 5 years I see what you mean about marital status. It seems like was M and then overwritten with S and came out, on quick glance as Wd. If he was single, it would given credence to a divorce. There is an Eunice Pate age 24 in Leavenworth, a single nurse at Evergreen Hospital, Delaware Twsp. She MAY be the Eunice Willoughby Pate I'm trying to find. I found the 1910 Sheridan Co WY enumeration after I had sent the message. George Newton Pate had at least two brothers- William Henry Pate who shows up in Weston Co WY in 1900 John Leonard Pate in the 1910 Sheridan WY (twice) not to far from his parents. The lock is the birth place of his mother. Where was George Newton Pate in 1920? Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jinks Lee" <jinksp@juno.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [PATE] George Newton Pate 1872-1944 > Joel - in re-checking the 1900 Geary Co, KS census > it COULD read that George M Pate, age 28, was > married 5 yrs - and does not show any children - > lives alone. Looks like they either wrote the "S" > , single, over "M" , married, or vice versa, but the > 5 yrs is there > George N Pate is in the 1910 Sheridan Co, WY > census, ED 105/p 8A, HH 16/17 and is living > with his parents - don't have the 1920 WY but > he is possibly still there > Jinks > >

Joel - in re-checking the 1900 Geary Co, KS census it COULD read that George M Pate, age 28, was married 5 yrs - and does not show any children - lives alone. Looks like they either wrote the "S" , single, over "M" , married, or vice versa, but the 5 yrs is there George N Pate is in the 1910 Sheridan Co, WY census, ED 105/p 8A, HH 16/17 and is living with his parents - don't have the 1920 WY but he is possibly still there Jinks

Here is what I know: George Newton Pate 6 Oct 1872-14 Apr 1944 Son of: John McAllister Pate and Anna Charlotte Pearson Appears on 1880 census Davis Co KS with parents. Page 250, Enum Dist 54, sheet 38 Junction City, site 313/343 Allegedly married Eunice Willoughby and allegedly divorced her. Appears on 1900 census Geary Co KS a 28 year old widower. Enum Dist 52, sheet 1B, Ft Riley, site 28/28. Allegedly married Elizabeth Elsie Crabtree. Who b 18 Aug 1877 Scioto Co OH and perhaps d 11 Apr 1971 Dundy Co NE George and Elizabeth Pate appear in 1930 census of Seward Co NE. The enumeration indicates tat they married 1928 or 1929. Enum Dist 80-29/5B, Seward Twsp, site 139/145. What I want to learn: Confirmation, dates, location and disposition of marriage to Eunice Willoughby. Also seeking location of George Newton Pate in 1910 and 1920. Joel

Joel & Joe - yes, William Pate md Nancy Compton are the parents of Minor Exle Pate -- William Pate's will recorded 28 Mar 1853 in Hancock Co, KY names wife, Nancy; Son, Minor E Pate; Daus Rhoda A Wagoner and Virginia Ann May. Minor Exle Pate md 8 Mar 1834 in Daviess Co, KY to Rebecca H May - they are parents of Rev Eldred E Pate who md (1) Sallie B Morton (they divorced) and (2) Emma T Thomas. You can find William Pate (md Nancy Compton) on my Pate webpage - son of Jeremiah Pate & wife Mary "Polly" which carries you on back to my Edward Pate who md Martha (?Tinsley) Jinks

Rev Eldred T Pate b. 21 Oct 1841 Hancock Co, KY d. 12 May 1917 was no doubt the son of Minor E Pate and Rebecca H May of Hancock Co KY. See 1850 census of Hancock Co KY page 300, site 486/503. He was listed as Elred E Pate age 9 b ca 1841. Minor E Pate and Rebecca H May were md 8 Mar 1834 in Daviess Co KY Minor E Pate was enumerated in the 1840 census of Hancock Co KY (page 012), however, there are no names in the 1840 census other than the head of house. Minor Pate appears in several early censuses, including slaves schedules, in Hancock Co KY. Nearby there was an older man named William Pate also enumerated. In the 1850 census we see this man again as William Pate b VA ca 1775 and his wife Nancy b VA ca 1780. There was a William Pate who married a Nancy Compton 2 Sep 1797 in Montgomery Co VA. Question: Were William Pate and Nancy Compton the parents of Minor E Pate b KY ca 1809? Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: <JoePaleo@aol.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:27 PM Subject: [PATE] JAMES ELDRED PATE > I am just starting to look at the Pate family. My wife's maiden name is > Marilyn Mae Pate (b. 2 Mar 1934). Her father was James Eldred Pate. He was born > June 1903 in Slaughters, Webster County, Kentucky. He died 5 Mar 1975 in St. > Louis, Missouri. > > Joseph E. (Joe) Hazel > >

Joe: I looked at Webster Co KY marriage records and found one very promising one. Eldred T Pate md Elizabeth Bailey 19 Feb 1901, see Book 19-20, Page 315 Webster Co KY Found these notes; 19 Feb 1901 Eldred T. Pate, of Slaughtersville, age 23, 1st marriage, groom and his parents born in Kentucky to: Elizabeth Bailey, of Slaughtersville, age 24, 1st marriage, bride and her parents born in Kentucky. Married at Slaughtersville by Eldred E. Pate M.E.C.G. Witnesses: William Toombs and Walter M. Pate Date of Bond: 18 Feb 1901: surety: T.F. Reynolds 1900 Webster Co KY census Enum Dist 92, sheet 21, Slaughtersville, site 3984/396 ELDRED E PATE 59 W/M HEAD MD PREACHER KY/KY/KY OCT 1840 EMMER PATE 55 W/F WIFE MD 26y 4/4 KY/KY/KY MAY 1845 ELDRED T PATE 22 W/M SON SGL DRY GDS SLS KY/KY/KY MAR 1878 WALTER M 19 W/M SON SGL KY/KY/KY AUG 1880 MARVIN C PATE 18 W/M SON SGL KY/KY/KY NOV 1881 CARL S PATE 16 W/M SON SGL KY/KY/KY DEC 1883 1920 St Louis Co MO census Enum Dist 487, sheet 4b, St Louis IC, site 73/89 ELDRED PATE 44 W/M HEAD MD RR INSP KY/KY/KY 1876 ELIZABETH PATE 44 W/F WIFE MD KY/KY/KY 1876 JAMES PATE 17 W/F SON SGL KY/KY.KY 1903 MARY PATE 10 W/F DAU SGL KY/KY/KY 1910 KATHERINE PATE 6 W/F DAU SGL MO/KY/KY 1918 JAMES BUSBY 40 W/M BDR WD MO/MO/MO 1880 1930 St Louis Co MO census Enum Dist 96-39/23A, St Louis IC, site 87/240 James E Pate 26 W/M HEAD MD @25 SERV MGR KY/KY/KY 1904 Mae L Pate 22 W/F WIFE MD @21 BKKPR MO/MO/MO 1908 4232 Blaine Ave St Louis This couple had been married about 1 year He seems to have been a service manager for an electrical appliance co and she was a book keeper for a tobacco company. Across the street at 4231 Blaine Ave- Eldred T Pate Elizabeth Pate Mary Pate Katherine Pate The Social Security record for James E Pate shows a date of birth of 27 Jun 1902 not 1903 Mae Pate b 28 Apr 1907 d Jul 1984 Anne Arundel Co MD, SSN issued MO This, plus the excellent information Jinks posted, will give you a very good picture of you wife's family Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: <JoePaleo@aol.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:27 PM Subject: [PATE] JAMES ELDRED PATE > I am just starting to look at the Pate family. My wife's maiden name is > Marilyn Mae Pate (b. 2 Mar 1934). Her father was James Eldred Pate. He was born > June 1903 in Slaughters, Webster County, Kentucky. He died 5 Mar 1975 in St. > Louis, Missouri. > > Joseph E. (Joe) Hazel > >

Hi Joseph - your James Eldred Pate is the sone of Eldred T Pate b. Mar 1878 and ElizabethBailey. This family was in 1910 Shannon Co, MO - Md 9 yrs, had 2 children and 2 living and 1920 St Louis Co, MO. Eldred T Pate & Elizabeth Bailey md 19 Feb 1901 in Webster Co, KY. Rev Eldred T Pate b. 21 Oct 1841 Hancock Co, KY d. 12 May 1917, md (1) Sallie B Morton and (2) Emma T Thomas 19 Feb 1877. Eldred T Pate and family were in 1870 Hancock Co, KY; 1880 Livingston Co, KY; 1900 Webster Co, KY and 1910 Daviess Co, KY - he a widower. Eldred & Emma had 4 known children - Eldred T Pate b. Mar 1878, Walter M Pate, b. Aug 1880, Marvin Erles Pate b. 20 Nov 1881 and Carl S Pate, b. 12 Dec 1883. I have found no children from the first marriage. Hope this is of help. Jinks Pate Lee

I am just starting to look at the Pate family. My wife's maiden name is Marilyn Mae Pate (b. 2 Mar 1934). Her father was James Eldred Pate. He was born June 1903 in Slaughters, Webster County, Kentucky. He died 5 Mar 1975 in St. Louis, Missouri. Joseph E. (Joe) Hazel

Anyone researching Willoughby Pate and allied families of McRae, Jackson, Allen and Alford? Joel

I have known about the 2 published books of indexes to Southern Christian Advocate (Methodist) newspaper for many years; however, I did not know about the following indexing source for other years: http://www.wofford.edu/sandorteszlerlibrary/search.htm A search of the Pate surname yields 35 Pate obituaries or deaths 1841-1964. Lindy

On a recent trip to Grovehill, Alabama and the Courthouse , I found documents that relate to someone I believe to be my gggreat-grandfather, John Pate. As nearly as I can determine, looking at the 1830 Clarke CO, AL census, he would have been 60-70 years of age, making him born between 1760 -70. I have documents showing that Thomas Moore, my ggreatgrandfather, married Winneford Pate in 1832 and he is buying up River land from the Heirs of John Pate dec'd on 3/5/1836: Mason Tyson and Elizabeth his wife, Thomas C. Johnson and wife Rebecca Tyson. It is my belief that these persons are sisters to Winneford Pate because in 1850 census, after Thomas Moore dies, Winneford is living in Marengo CO. next door to Thomas & Rebecca Johnson with two of the Tyson children in her household. Their father having passed away in 1837. That is not all, Thomas Franklin married a Mary Pate in 1819 in Clarke CO, AL and the Moores and the Franklins are very close families, showing as neighbors on at least two or more census.' I know that her marriage certificate says her father is Asa pate. But I believe that there is some relation between ASA and JOHN Pate. Either they are the same person or perhaps brothers. (My Great-grandmother Catherine C. Franklin was the daughter of Thomas B. Franklin and his second wife Mary McCorquodale and she married Thomas & Winneford Moore's son William L Moore.) Can anyone add to this information. Erlyne Moore Sherrill

In June 2003 I sent out a warning about a genealogy scam being operated out of Cedar Rapids, IA. The Internet scam was being run under several different names. genealogydevelopments.com familydiscovery.com genealogyfinders.com genealogyfinders.net aboent.com (perhaps Abodeely Enterprises) genlocator.com genseeker.com genseekers.com genealogy-express.com family-express.com GenealogyExperts.com Family genseekers Genealogygiants.com This news item was good news! August 1, 2003 Man Arrested for Internet Genealogy Scams! Elias Abodeely II of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, the man behind several genealogy Web site scams, has been arrested and charged with 1st degree theft, identity theft, money laundering, and ongoing criminal conduct according to local NBC affiliate KWWL. Over the past three years, Elias Abodeely has taken advantage of hundreds of unsuspecting genealogists with Web sites such as FamilyDiscovery.com, Genseekers.com, and GenealogyGiants.com. His Web sites not only tried to make money by charging for links to information that had been freely posted on the Web by magnanimous volunteers on sites such as Rootsweb.com, but also billed people's credit cards after not allowing them to cancel their free trial memberships. Investigators claim that Abodeely's three-year genealogy scam netted at least $14,000, according to an article by Christoph Trappe in the Cedar Rapids Gazette. PLEASE: 1) Be very cautious about giving out financial or personal information and credit card numbers on the internet. 2) Obtain, install, activate and update virus screen software for your computer. Joel

Barbara: There was one dau of Henry Brown Pate and Nancy A Weir who was born after the 1860 census but who was not in the household in 1880 Katheryne Pate b 22 Jul 1864 ( Itawamba Co no doubt) I' sure that you have thought of these items before, but in case you had not, I'd suggest looking in Itawamba and Tishomingo counties for deeds, marriages records, graves, voter rolls, jury duty rolls, wills and estate administration and newspapers. Also check church and Sunday school records as well as pension files. While Henry Brown Pate may not appear as the principal party in some of these records, he may appear as a witness or bondsman. If he owned property in Itawamba before he relocated to Tishomingo, he would have, no doubt, sold it. He would also acquired property in Tishomingo. Unless these records have been destroyed, you should get some idea as to where he was and when. Joel Joel

Descendants of Henry Brown Pate 1 [1] Henry Brown Pate b: January 28, 1826 in Tuscaloosa Co., AL d: April 29, 1911 in Tishomingo Co., MS Burial: Burgress Cemetery, Tishomingo Co., MS Age at death: 85 . +Nancy A Wier b: July 11, 1822 in Alabama m: October 27, 1846 in Itawamba Co., MS d: January 27, 1881 in Tishomingo Co., MS Burial: Burgress Cemetery, Tishomingo Co., MS Age at death: 58 ........ 2 Christenberry Lee Pate b: September 04, 1847 in Itawamba Co., MS d: June 25, 1930 in Red Bay, Franklin Co., AL Burial: Burgress Cemetery, Tishomingo Co., MS Age at death: 82 ............ +Penelope Sarah Gillentine b: April 13, 1850 in Itawamba Co., MS m: December 25, 1867 in Itawamba Co., MS d: August 17, 1918 in Tishomingo Co., MS Father: William Throckmorton Gillentine Mother: Mary Rhyne Burial: Burgress Cemetery, Tishomingo Co., MS Age at death: 68 ........ 2 Olive M Pate b: 1848 in Itawamba Co., MS d: Unknown Age at death: ? ........ 2 Lewis R Pate b: 1851 in Itawamba Co., MS d: Unknown Age at death: ? ........ 2 Tirena O Pate b: 1854 d: 1931 Burial: Ozark Cemetery, Itawamba Co., MS Social Security Number: SS #: None Age at death: 77 est. ............ +Francis Marion Grammer, Jr. b: 1862 m: Abt. 1882 d: 1933 Father: Francis Marion Grammer, Sr. Mother: Elizabeth Gillentine Burial: Ozark Cemetery, Itawamba Co., MS Social Security Number: SS #: None Age at death: 71 est. ........ 2 Samantha Elizabeth Pate b: March 11, 1855 in Itawamba Co., MS d: February 01, 1921 in Tishomingo Co., MS Burial: Ridge Cemetery, Itawamba Co., MS Age at death: 65 ............ +Alexander W Patterson b: July 18, 1858 m: Abt. 1875 d: March 08, 1936 in Tishomingo Co., MS Father: Harrison Patterson Mother: Nancy Epps Burial: Ridge Cemetery, Itawamba Co., MS Age at death: 77 ........ 2 Telitha G Pate b: 1857 in Itawamba Co., MS d: Unknown Age at death: ? ........ 2 Catherine Pate b: July 22, 1864 in Itawamba Co., MS d: January 24, 1937 in Itawamba Co., MS Burial: Fairview Cemetery, Itawamba Co., MS Age at death: 72 ............ +John Nathaniel Ewing b: March 21, 1851 m: Abt. 1877 d: September 19, 1924 in Itawamba Co., MS Burial: Fairview Cemetery, Itawamba Co., MS Age at death: 73 *2nd Wife of [1] Henry Brown Pate: . +Mary C Maxcy b: Abt. 1866 m: February 04, 1886 in Itawamba Co., MS d: Unknown Age at death: ?

Barbara: I suspect that Henry Brown Pate was not enumerated in the 1870 census. He was in Itawamba Co in the 1860 census and in Tishomingo Co in the 1880. It would appear that some time after the 1860 census and before the 1880 Henry Brown Pate and his family moved south into Tishomingo Co, which adjoins Itawamba to the south. Two items MAY give you some clues. 1st His son Christianberry Pate married Penelope Gillentin 26 Dec 1867 in Itawamba Co 2nd In the 1880 census of Tishomingo Co Henry b Pate was enumerated at Enumeration Dist 199, sheet 18, page 92, dist 92, site 141/141. His son Christianberry was at site 142/142 My GUESS - they moved down to Tishomingo Co after 1867, but before 1880. There were no county boundary changes between Itawamba and Tishomingo during that time period so they physically moved from one county to another. Henry B Pate age 72 was enumerated in the 1900 census of Tishomingo Co. Apparently with a second wife - Mary I think you may have information on the grave sites of Henry and Christianberry Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Goree" <goree@tstar.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: [PATE] Henry Brown Pate > Can not find Henry Brown Pate in 1870 census in either Itawamba Co. or > Tishomingo Co., Miss. > Does anybody know where he was in 1870. > > Thanks, > Barbara > > >

Can not find Henry Brown Pate in 1870 census in either Itawamba Co. or Tishomingo Co., Miss. Does anybody know where he was in 1870. Thanks, Barbara

Hello follow researchers, I was doing some research on another family line this morning and came across a mention of Sarah Pate in a will. I thought that it might be of interest ....the gentleman that died was named Frances Beckwith and he died abt 1822 in Marion Co., SC....this information was taken from.... http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/i/d/Brian-P-Ridgell/GENE261-0001.html I am hoping that perhaps this will help us identify a maiden name for one of the Pate wives.... Notes for FRANCES BECKWITH: Last Will and Testament of Henry BECKWITH IV Probate Record 1803-1845 Marion Co., SC, pp 141-142, 1822, LW&T of Henry Beckwith Henry Beckwith of the same State and District having been taken dangerously ill and not having a favorable opportunity to commist his will in writing did call in John Hamilton, Martha Hamilton, and Thomas Harlee as witnesses to his nuncupative will which was devised in the following manner. First to his belovd wife Mourning Beckwith, he gave and bequeathed on feather bed and furniture and four cows and calves to be chosen by herself out of his stock. One young sorrell mare and to live on the plantation as long as she chose and to be supported out of his property next year. He also loaned to his said wife Mourning, during her natural life, one Negro woman Dinah and at her death he gave the said Dinah to his daughter Martha Jane. Secondly to his beloved son Hansel Beckwith, he gave and bequeathed a Negro child wich his Negro woman Bede is now pregnant with if it hsould live to him and his heirs and apagres forever. Thirdly to his daughter Francis Ridgell, one Negro woman named Bede but not her child which she is pregnant with which is previously disposed of to son Hansel Beckwith. To his son Amos Beckwith he gave and bequeathed one Negro man named Ned, one Negro girl named Grace and one hundred dollars. He further bequeathed that all his debts which are owing to him should be collected and all his just debts should be paid and the remaining part of his personal and perishable property should be sold and the monies arising therefrom and all the monies arising from my Estate after paying his just debts to be equally divided (except one hundred dollars which he before bequeathed to Amos Beckwith) between his three children Hansel, Sarah Pate and Rhoda Henderson. He further gave and bequeathed after the death of his wife Mourning to be equalle divided between his two children Amos Beckwith and Martha Jane Beckwith all his lands whereon he then lived at the time of his death. Lastly he constituted David S. Harllee and John Hamilton executors of his last Will and Testament. The above Nuncupative will was made and declared the 13th of February, one thousand eight hundred and twenty two (1822) in the forty seventh year of the American Independance in presence of us who have hereunto set our hands as witnesses to the same this 16th day of February 1822. Oaths etc. need to be added. (Will Book #7 Page 141 Marion County South Carolina) I know that the name Ridgill is associated with Sumter Co, SC and wondered if the Sarah Pate mentioned is the Sarah from this area????? Any information would be greatly appreciated.... Also there is mention of the following Pates on this site... Richmond Co. North Carolina Estate Records 1772-1933 Darby Sweaney,1821 final settlement was made and the recipiants were Thomas Pate, Sam'l Pate, Jacob Mangum, ? Ridgie? (Ridgell) John Matteson. Sarah Graves.and Mary Bit?? (illegible)... and executors were James Cole and Stephen Pate and everything was settled by Dec. of 1825. Will of Darby Sweeny Sr. 1. To grandson Siras Swinney 2. To grandson Elisha Pate 3.To daughter Hannah Cole 4.To my granddaughter Easter Pate the wife of Thomas Pate 5. To my negro woman Cate her freedom during her natural life, and if Cate should become helpless, those legatees who are in possession of her children and grandchildren shall maintain her.. All his stock of cattle ,horses,hogs,and sheep, plantation tools household and kitchen furniture to be to be sold and the money to be equally divided between my Samuel Pate ,Jacob Mangrum, Mary Betha as he also says Elizabeth Matheson, Sarah Graves and MARTHA RIDGELL.. Signed the 18th day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty.. Witnessed by Samuel Goodwin, Nathaniel Gibson, and Alfred Bennett I thought this was interesting also... Cindy McClay

Hi everyone. I came across this site and noticed it had a few grooms whose last name was Pate. I thought they might help some one. I am copying them with the email that was given by the person who submitted these. Teresa Michael Columbus [Clay] PATE married Modena Frances JONES, 1898, Walker Co., AL; clnholly@aol.com Newell W PATE married Harriett BROWN Dec 17,1829, Tuscaloosa Co. AL dechmil@aol.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

There are a few minor differences in spelling that I have found in the list you have sent, but I have not found anything through the children yet. Their son Jody was my great grandfather. I have noticed that you listed Handy as a nickname. I have him listed as Handy W. Peters. You spelled the name Milly with a Y on the end, we have it as Millie with the ie at the end. The children I have listed are: Elias who married Sarah first and Elizabeth Hicks second Marion Lee married Lela Grantham Jere married Alice Dean Rebecca never married Jim Frank married Dolly Dean Dallas married Bea Dean Jody married Ada Helms Lawerance Edgar married Jewel Sevell Rebecca had brain damage and was taken care of by her brother after her parents death. They are buried at Panther Creek Cemetary off of Geneva County Road 9. Thank you for sending this. I am now off to check this information out. Teresa Perhaps the names of the children of Elizabeth Milly Pate and A W Peters will offer a clue as to her father's name. Interestingly, the Peters household was at site 215/217. At site 210/212 we find Jeremiah Pate age 79, and his second wife, Malinda A E Stewart, age 46.1880 Geneva Co AL P 662, ED 79, sheet 24, site 215/217 HANDY PETERS 26 W/M HEAD FARMER FL/NC/AL 1856MILLY PETERS 30 W/F WIFE KPS HSE AL/AL/AL 1850ELIAS PETERS 6 W/M SON SGL AL/FL/AL 1874WM O PETERS 5 W/M SON SGL AL/FL/AL 1875REBECCA PETERS 3 W/F DAU SGL AL/FL/AL 1877AARON* PETERS 1 W/M SON SGL AL/FL/AL 1879[Elizabeth M Pate md A W 'Handy" Peters]______________________________ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Nancy A. "Polly" PATE married David Short FOWLER. This couple was in Tazewell Co VA after 1860. Any one got a lead on them? Joel