Max: Joel T Pate>Joel Lorene Pate>Sydney Joel Pate Geneva Co AL 1880 Page 652, ED 79/3 GENEVA, site 17/17 Benjamin Pate------59 W/M HEAD -----NC/NC/NC 1821 Claricy Pate-------61 W/F WIFE------NC/NC/NC 1819 Elizabeth McCrone--36 W/F DAU-------NC/NC/NC 1844 Dolly Pate---------22 W/F DAU-------NC/NC/NC 1858 Caroline McCrone---19 W/F G/DAU-----FL/NC/AL 1861 Mary E Pate-------- 9 W/F G/DAU-----AL/NC/-- 1871 Joel Pate---------- 3 W/M G/SON-----AL/NC/-- 1877 D John Faircloth---19 W/M FARM LAB--FL/GA/GA 1861 Geneva Co AL 1900 ED 72/28 WRIGHTS CRK, site 487/487 Joel Pate-----23 W/M HEAD MD-----AL/AL/AL NR 1877 Sarah Pate----22 W/F WIFE 6y 3/3-AL/AL/AL NR 1878 Delia Pate---- 5 W/F DAU---------AL/AL/AL NR 1895 Dollie I Pate- 4 W/F DAU---------AL/AL/AL NR 1896 Henry B Pate--8m W/M SON---------AL/AL/AL NR 1899 [Joel T Pate 1st md Sarah Baxley] Houston Co AL 1910 ED 139/3m PINEY GROVE, site 62/62 Joel Pate-------35 W/M HEAD --------AL/AL/AL 1875 Ida Pate--------30 W/F WIFE 17y 8/6-AL/AL/AL 1880 Dellie Pate-----15 W/F DAU----------AL/AL/AL 1895 Dollie J Pate---12 W/F DAU----------AL/AL/AL 1898 Dewey Pate------12 W/M SON----------AL/AL/AL 1898 Alex Pate------- 7 W/M SON----------AL/AL/AL 1903 Bonnie M Pate--- 3 W/F DAU----------AL/AL/AL 1907 Clarence L Pate-7m W/M SON----------AL/AL/AL 1909 Holmes Co FL 1920 ED 73/9B NEWTON, site 155/159 Ida L Pate------39 W/F HEAD WD --AL/AL/AL 1881 Malcom Pate*----20 W/M SON SGL --AL/AL/AL 1900 Claire Pate----- 9 W/F DAU SGL---AL/AL/AL 1911 Joel L Pate----- 8 W/M SON SGL---FL/AL/AL 1912 Sallie Pate----- 6 W/F DAU SGL---FL/AL/AL 1914 Lee Anna Pate--- 4m W/F DAU SGL---FL/AL/AL 1920 [Malcolm Shipes* 15 Apr 1898-Jun 1978] Holmes Co FL 1930 ED 30-14/1A, BONIFAY, site 9/9 Ida L Pate----48 W/F HEAD WD MD@23--AL/AL/AL 1882 Cassie L Pate-20 W/F DAU SGL -------FL/AL/AL 1910 Leorene Pate--17 W/M SON SGL -------FL/AL/AL 1913 Sallie Pate---15 W/F DAU SGL -------FL/AL/AL 1915 Leane Pate----13 W/F DAU SGL -------FL/AL/AL 1917 Holmes Co FL 1935 State census PRECINCT 12, PAGE 25, BONIFAY Lorene Pate---23 W/M FL HEAD--FARMER Clarsy Pate---25 W/F FL SIS---HOUSE WIFE Sally Pate----21 W/F FL SIS---STUDENT Joel Lorene Pate b 2 Apr 1912 d 30 Mar 1988 md Bonnie B Searcy b 17 Dec 1917 Washington Co FL 1945 State census CHIPLEY PRCT 13. PAGE --, LINE Larenane Pate*------34 W/M FL FARMER 1911 Bonnie Pate---------26 W/F FL HOUSE WIFE 1919 Sidney Joel Pate---- 7 W/M FL LABOR 1938 Franklin Earl Pate-- 3 W/M FL 1942

Meredith, thanks so much for the info. I will have to check my records. I know Thomas & Jeremiah are in my line. My g g g grandfather was James Madison Sr born in Va or N C. in abt 1765. My folks did live in Tn. Hopefully we can make a connection. Monta ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Sheridan Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 6:11 AM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE] "Tn, First Settlers and Soldiers" Book This information is from Margaret Patton. She ways that the book does not have much on the Pates but this is what was there: Joseph Pate, In the yr 1800 shows with 550 acres of land on the Chucky River in Cpt J Kesterson' Company of Taxables, Gr Tn. He owned 2 slaves. Mathew Pate NC Grant #1913, 1787-1788 100 a North side of the Nolichucky River. Mathew Pate, In 1800 shows on the Cucky River Cpt J Kesterson Co . He owned 7 slaves. Mathew Pate In the yr 1785 shows with 375 a of land on the Nolichucky River, Cpt Henry Conway's Co State of Franklin todays Gr TN Mathew Pate with Jeremiah and Thomas Pate show with 500 ac on the Chucky River, Gr Tn, in the 1798 Cpt William Whites CO. Is the Joseph Pate the Joseph that is seen in Madison Co, Al in 1808? MeredithGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Max - in 1920 Holmes Co, FL census Ida L Pate age 39, widow b. AL Malcolm Pate age 20 b. AL Claris Pate age 9 b. AL Joel L Pate age 8 b. FL Sallie Pate age 6 b. FL Lee Anna Pat age 4 yr 5 mo b. FL Ida L Pate is POSSIBLY the widow of Joel Pate who was in1910 Houston Co, AL Jinks

Hello all, I am trying to identify "Mr. Pate" Mr. Pate md Mrs. <Pate> - Joel Loren Pate 2 Apr 1912 Holmes Co FL - 27 mar 1988 Houston Co AL, bd. in Washington Co FL md Bonnie __________ (survived husband) - - son Pate (survived father) - - son Pate (survived father) - Clarsey Pate (survived brother) md Mr. Searcy Thanks, Max

This was sent on by Gary Essary. Roane Co Deeds 1808-1812. Bill of sale by Mathew Pate to Jeremiah Pate. $200 a Negro man named Frank. Witness John Edmonds and Stephen Pate 9 Oct 1809 pg 232 and Wm Lee was on the Clinch River.Roane Co Tn 1813. This is where Ona Essary Pate's father John Essary is living. Ona is the one who traveled to Dyer Co Tn at 16 and married William Pate. She seemed to travel alone. Does anyone know of a Pate Essary marriage or connection before this time? Meredith

This information is from Margaret Patton. She ways that the book does not have much on the Pates but this is what was there: Joseph Pate, In the yr 1800 shows with 550 acres of land on the Chucky River in Cpt J Kesterson' Company of Taxables, Gr Tn. He owned 2 slaves. Mathew Pate NC Grant #1913, 1787-1788 100 a North side of the Nolichucky River. Mathew Pate, In 1800 shows on the Cucky River Cpt J Kesterson Co . He owned 7 slaves. Mathew Pate In the yr 1785 shows with 375 a of land on the Nolichucky River, Cpt Henry Conway's Co State of Franklin todays Gr TN Mathew Pate with Jeremiah and Thomas Pate show with 500 ac on the Chucky River, Gr Tn, in the 1798 Cpt William Whites CO. Is the Joseph Pate the Joseph that is seen in Madison Co, Al in 1808? Meredith

Byrd Pate b AL Aug 1859 appears as the head of household in the 1900 census of Cape Girardeau Co, MO. Per the census, his parents were also born in AL. He married ca 1877 to a Mary ___?____. They had 8 children by 1900, 6 of them were alive at census time. Five were living with them. Also living with them were two nephews, both surnamed Atchley. His widow appears in the 1910 and 1920 censuses of Scott Co MO. Any one have a clue on him, his origin and perhaps an alternate name? Was he perhaps out of Coosa County AL? Was Mary born an Atchley? Joel

In the continuing search for John, David, and William Pate who were named in an 1851 relief bill in the US House of Representatives, the House Journal indicated that they were from Illinois. The Regimental rosters for IL units in the Mexican War contained four PATE names. See below. Nothing on John or David Pate. It MAY be that they served but were not properly recorded and paid Joseph, Lewis and Simeon Pate were in State units, William Pate was in a Federal unit. There were two men named William Pate who were from IL and who served in the Mexican war and who later drew a pension. William Pate served E Co 14 US Inf drew a pension (Cert # 18287) in Texas. ( Jink's file MIL19TX.X3) William Simpson Pate served D Co US Mounted Rifles, drew pension (Cert # 7337) in Illinois. (Jink's file MIL191L.X4) PATE, JOSEPH PVT ---A Co - 2 IL INF - ALTON PATE, LEWIS PVT ----H Co - 2 IL FOOT - NASHVILLE PATE, SIMEON PVT ---H Co - 2 IL FOOT - NASHVILLE PATE, WILLIAM PVT --E Co - 14 US INF

A wonderful narrative about this couple, their origins, families and pioneering adventures is available at this web site. http://sloco.net/FamIndex/Pate.html Joel

Joel, Thanks for posting the link to the story about my great grandfather. This is the David Pate who I have been trying to trace for years. I would like to think he is the David Pate referred to in your recent posting from the Journal of the House of Representives because he is about the right age and from Illinois, but I can make no real connection. The search continues, Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:16 PM Subject: [PATE] David Pate and Susan Mary Lassiter > A wonderful narrative about this couple, their origins, families and pioneering adventures is available at this web site. > > http://sloco.net/FamIndex/Pate.html > > Joel >

Joel so excited to get back in the Pate loop. I don't know if these are the same Pate's or not. My Pate's were in Coosa Co al Hatchett Creek DIV in 1850. John Pate was my gg grandfathher born 180l in NC or Va and married Evaline Bates in Ga. She was born in 1812. I also, show them in Coosa Co Al 2nd Sub-Div Mt Olive P. O. PG 324 in 1860. They lived all over Al but I am having trouble making connedtions. His father was James M & Mary unknow. I cannot found whose James M father was. PLease help. P.S I don't do so well working with one hand. So excuse the mistakes.Monta web.com Subject: [PATE] Levander Garland Pate Bev: Levander Garland Pate is really a SC rather than a NC name. I have a number of references for the name. There are some interesting Stubbs and Pate family lines involved. Julia Claire Pate wrote that -- Elizabeth Pate, dau of Lt Col Thoroughgood Pate I and Francis Bright, md John Weldon Stubbs. Elizabeth Pate Stubbs 1809-1878 and John Weldon Stubbs 1807-1884 had issue, among whom was Martha Francis Stubbs. "Martha F. Stubbs md Levander Garland Pate, a prominent merchant of Sumter, S.C." Levander G Pate appears in the 1860 census of Sumter Co SC. Page 176, site 25/24, Sumter PO. L G Pate appears in the 1870 census of Sumter co SC. Page 321, site 106/116, Sumter PO. In 1880 it is Lavander Pate at ED 127, sheet 28, site 220/220, Sumter PO. This couple does not appear in the 1900 SC census but there are descendants in several households in Sumter Co. She perhaps died in 1902. Same is true for 1910, 1920 and 1930. One list of their children: John Thomas Pate or Thomas John Pate Samuel Levander Pate James Frank Pate Lilly Pate Lou (Luticia) M Pate Martha Pate Blanche Pate JoelGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Bev: Levander Garland Pate is really a SC rather than a NC name. I have a number of references for the name. There are some interesting Stubbs and Pate family lines involved. Julia Claire Pate wrote that -- Elizabeth Pate, dau of Lt Col Thoroughgood Pate I and Francis Bright, md John Weldon Stubbs. Elizabeth Pate Stubbs 1809-1878 and John Weldon Stubbs 1807-1884 had issue, among whom was Martha Francis Stubbs. "Martha F. Stubbs md Levander Garland Pate, a prominent merchant of Sumter, S.C." Levander G Pate appears in the 1860 census of Sumter Co SC. Page 176, site 25/24, Sumter PO. L G Pate appears in the 1870 census of Sumter co SC. Page 321, site 106/116, Sumter PO. In 1880 it is Lavander Pate at ED 127, sheet 28, site 220/220, Sumter PO. This couple does not appear in the 1900 SC census but there are descendants in several households in Sumter Co. She perhaps died in 1902. Same is true for 1910, 1920 and 1930. One list of their children: John Thomas Pate or Thomas John Pate Samuel Levander Pate James Frank Pate Lilly Pate Lou (Luticia) M Pate Martha Pate Blanche Pate Joel

Bev: Where did you see it used? There are a couple of possibilities. The one that comes to mind first is- Lusilious Green Pate b 18 Nov 1826 in IL s/o Hiram King Tyre Pate. Lucinda Amanda Lindsay who married Harrison Pate of the Tuscaloosa AL Pates was recorded one time as Mrs L G Pate (CSA Pension app). My search ferret got 63 hits on "l g pate" in my files (most of those will be things like samueL G Pate or newelL G Pate). Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Aytes-Bowhall" <ay8tes2@highland.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: [PATE] L. G. Pate > Okay, help me remember what L.G. stands for! It was a popular name in > Pate family, sigh. > > Thanks, Bev > > >

Okay, help me remember what L.G. stands for! It was a popular name in Pate family, sigh. Thanks, Bev

Bob: Robert H Pate age 54 and family were enumerated in Curry, Putnam Co West Virginia in the 1930 census. The enumeration was made 19 Apr 1930. Citation: Enumeration District 40-5, sheet 7B, Curry Twsp, site 128/128. I'd say that he was in Curry, WV for at least the first quarter of 1930. His occupation was listed as Farmer, apparently self employed on a truck farm. Here is a wild lead for you- The English and Canadians had decennial censuses, BUT they made them, not on the decade year, e.g., 1850, but on the first year, e.g., 1851. I think that the pattern has continued. So there MAY be a Canadian census for 1931. IF so and IF it is available and IF Robert H Pate was in Canada and IF he was enumerated, you MAY be able to trace him. Do you know if he continued working at farming or related work? Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: [PATE] My Grandfather > I posted this information a couple of years ago and have exhausted most of the ways to locate him. Jinks has looked a few times and thought it would be good to re-visit, maybe someone can help now. > > My grandfather Robert Harvey Pate was b.12-22-1876 in Wv. He married Gillie Paul, his father was Jabe B.L. Pate b. 3-3-1847, in Va., his mother was Martha Perkins b. 1848-1850. > Robert and Gillie had 11 children. About 1930 he left his family and his farm to find work. Some older aunts and uncles indicated that he might have called from Kansas or Missouri (Kansas City). There was also a rumor that he had called from Canada. > If anyone has found a Pate about that age and cannot connect him to a family or if their family started about 1930 or later please contact me. > > Thank you > > Bob Pate + rpate@bellsouth.net > > >

A GedCom file was just mailed to Beverly. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:33 PM Subject: Fw: [PATE] Need some help > Joel - Maybe you have the records Beverley is looking for. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Beverly Aytes-Bowhall > To: Bob Pate > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE] Need some help > > > Bob, > > I finally found some paperwork with the info on it, thank goodness for paper back ups! > > I have Jeremiah Elijah Pate bn nov 6, 1952 in Miller co, Ga to William H. Pate and Sarah M. ?. > > William H. Pate was bn in NC, possibly Robeson Co. > > Bev > > Bob Pate wrote: > > Where were your ancestors from? > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beverly Aytes-Bowhall" <ay8tes2@Highland.Net> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 8:49 AM > Subject: [PATE] Need some help > > > Hi All, > > I need some help here; my computer died and took with it all my family > tree info which also included the Jeremiah Elijah Pate/Thomasson tree. > > Is there any kinfolk out there that can help me, a gedcom emailed would > be a blessing. I have a new and very empty computer at the moment. > Some kind person did send me my Carpenter line using gedcom, and it > worked. > Thank you, Bev > > > > > > >

I posted this information a couple of years ago and have exhausted most of the ways to locate him. Jinks has looked a few times and thought it would be good to re-visit, maybe someone can help now. My grandfather Robert Harvey Pate was b.12-22-1876 in Wv. He married Gillie Paul, his father was Jabe B.L. Pate b. 3-3-1847, in Va., his mother was Martha Perkins b. 1848-1850. Robert and Gillie had 11 children. About 1930 he left his family and his farm to find work. Some older aunts and uncles indicated that he might have called from Kansas or Missouri (Kansas City). There was also a rumor that he had called from Canada. If anyone has found a Pate about that age and cannot connect him to a family or if their family started about 1930 or later please contact me. Thank you Bob Pate + rpate@bellsouth.net

Joel - Maybe you have the records Beverley is looking for. ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Aytes-Bowhall To: Bob Pate Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] Need some help Bob, I finally found some paperwork with the info on it, thank goodness for paper back ups! I have Jeremiah Elijah Pate bn nov 6, 1952 in Miller co, Ga to William H. Pate and Sarah M. ?. William H. Pate was bn in NC, possibly Robeson Co. Bev Bob Pate wrote: Where were your ancestors from? Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Aytes-Bowhall" <ay8tes2@Highland.Net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 8:49 AM Subject: [PATE] Need some help Hi All, I need some help here; my computer died and took with it all my family tree info which also included the Jeremiah Elijah Pate/Thomasson tree. Is there any kinfolk out there that can help me, a gedcom emailed would be a blessing. I have a new and very empty computer at the moment. Some kind person did send me my Carpenter line using gedcom, and it worked. Thank you, Bev

Hi All, I need some help here; my computer died and took with it all my family tree info which also included the Jeremiah Elijah Pate/Thomasson tree. Is there any kinfolk out there that can help me, a gedcom emailed would be a blessing. I have a new and very empty computer at the moment. Some kind person did send me my Carpenter line using gedcom, and it worked. Thank you, Bev

John The earlier House Journal entry indicates that the three were from Illinois, the second entry indicates that the relief bill was expanded to include- 1. three Pate men from Illinois 2. W T Sherman 3. Unnamed officers and men of the GA Battn The problem with pension records is that they are for surviving soldiers who lived long enough to meet the pension law provisions. If a soldier served in 1846-1848 and died in 1872, he was never eligible for a pension that was authorized in 1880 or later. The better foundation record would be the regimental or battalion enlistment and pay rosters ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAT & JOHN" <PJTAP@webtv.net> To: <patej@nettally.com> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 6:55 AM Subject: John,David & John > House Journal...2/18/1851.. > Petition of John ,William & David,W.T. Sherman and Officers and > soiulders of the " Georgia battatlion", in the late war with > Mexico...... > > Swabbie > > >