Annette - thanks for posting this Hudson/Pate info - I have a very good POSSIBILITY that has puzzled me for a long time -- William Pate md Agnes H Patton on 12 Mar 1859 in Ohio Co, KY. Agnes had evidently been married several times and couldn't remember which children belonged to which husband! In 1860 Ohio Co, KY, p 761, Buford (Bells Dist) HH 1222/1222 Wm Pate age 51 M b. KY Agnes Pate age 37 b. KY James M Pate age 16 b. KY Mary E Ritten age 10 b. ky Willis J Ritten age 8 b. KY James E Patten age 6 b. KY Granville H Patten age 3 b. KY Living nearby in HH 1226/1226 Thomas B Bell age 42 b. KY Mary E Bell age 31 William S Bell age 14 Robert H Bell age 12 Mary F Bell age 10 P 759, HH 1210/1210 Thomas Bell, Sr age 70 b. KY Samuel Bell age 38 b. KY HH 1212/1212 Thomas Bell, Jr age 43 Isabella Bell age 29 et al - children 1870 Ohio Co, KY, Buford (Bells Dist) HH 187/187 Wm Pate age 60 Agnes H Pate age 46 Willis H Bell age 19 Jas F Bell age 17 Granville H Bell age 13 Jesse R Pate age 7 1880 Ohio Co, KY, ED 46/24, Bartlett Agnes H Pate age 58 - widow Willis J Patten age 28 - son Granvil H Patten age 23 - son Jesse R Pate age 16 - son James Bell age 12 - nephew 1900 Ohio Co, KY, ED 101/6, Hartford Granvill H Patton age 43 Lissie Patton age 41 - wife Viola Patton age 13 - dau Agnus Pate age 77, Mother, widow, 8 children/3 living Since these 7 owned a 1/35 of estate (1/7 x 1/5 = 1/35) I would say they are PROBABLY sibs Mary W Hudson - w/o Robert Hudson Agnes Pate - w/o Wm Pate Elizabeth Patton - w/o James Patton John T Bell Ritta D Bell Josephene B Bell Delilah J Bell Were Mary W Hudson, Agnes Pate and Elizabeth Patton - nee BELL'S???? Does anyone have additional info on these families?? Jinks

Thought maybe someone might like this little bit of info. sent to our Hudson mail list. It was sent by JOANH954@aol.com who is a Hudson researcher. Another goodie from the Roots-List: ----------------------------------------------- Jefferson Democrat Hillsboro, Jefferson county, Missouri Part II FRIDAY, 14 JULY 1882 ORDER OF PUBLICATION - STATE OF MISSOURI - County of Jefferson - In the Circuit Court of said county, September term 1882.--in vacation June 26, 1882 - Thornton JARVIS, Plaintiff vs. Mary W. HUDSON and Robert HUDSON, her husband, Agnes PATE and William PATE, her husband, Elizabeth PATTON and James PATTON, her husband, John T. BELL and Ritta D. BELL, Josephene B. BELL and Delilah J. BELL and the unknown heirs of Samuel BELL, and the unknown heirs of Thomas BELL, defendant. At this day comes the plaintiff herein, by Attorney, W.H.H. THOMAS, and files his petition and affidavit, alleging among other things that Defendants, Mary W. HUDSON and Robert HUDSON, her husband, Agnes PATE and William PATE, her husband, Elizabeth PATTON and James PATTON, her husband, John T. BELL and Ritta D. BELL, and Delilah J. BELL are not residents of the State of Missouri, and the names of the heirs of Thomas BELL and Samuel BELL are not known to Plaintiff, hence cannot be named in the petition; whereupon, it is ordered by the clerk that said Defendants be notified by publication that Plaintiff has commenced a suit against them in this court, the object and general natrue of which is to obtain a decree of partition of the following described real estate situate in Jefferson county, State of Missouri, viz: The southwest quarter of section 19, in township 41, range 5 east of the 5th princiapl meridian, containing 60 & 76-100 acres, and if the said real estate can! not be divided, then for an order of sale thereof and division of the proceeds; Plaintiff further states in his petition that Samuel BELL and Thomas BELL have departed this life and the names of their heirs are unknown, thence cannot be inserted in the petition as aforesaid; that the unknown heirs of Samuel BELL, deceased, own one-fifth of said real estate; that the unknown heirs of Thomas BELL own one-fifth of said real estate; that Mary W. HUDSON, wife of Robert HUDSON, Agnes PATE, wife of William PATE, Elizabeth PATTON, wife of James PATTON, James T. BELL and Ritta D. BELL, Josephene B. BELL and Delilah J. BELL are each the owner of the one undivided thirty-fifth part of said real estate; and that unless the said Mary W. HUDSON and Robert HUDSON her husband, Agnes PATE and William PATE, her husband, Elizabeth PATTON and James PATTON her husband, John T. BELL and Ritta D. BELL, Josephene B. BELL and DElillah J. BELL and the unknown heirs of Samuel BELL and the unknown heirs of Thomas BELL shall be and appear atthis court at the next term thereof, to be begun and holden at the Court House in the town of Hillsboro in said county, on the second Monday of September next, and on or before the sixth day of said term, if the term shall so long continue--and if not, then on or before the last day of said term -- answer or plead to the petition in said cause the same will be taken as confessed and judgment will be rendered accordingly. And it is further ordered, that a copy hereof be published, according to law, in the Jefferson Democrat, a newspaper printed and published in said county and State. C. Tho. HORINE, Circuit Clerk. A true copy from the record. Witness my hand and the seal of the Circuit Court of Jefferson county, this 26th day of June, 1882. C. Tho. HORINE, Circuit Clerk. ============================= ==== HUDSON Mailing List ==== List owner: E. Annette Hudson Rose earphoto@inreach.com

These are notes that I made last summer on a research trip to the Grayson County court house. I don't know the PATE families mentioned - just took notes while I was looking for PATE records of interest to me. James PATE paid $200 to Sarah Shields land was on the waters of Range Creek about 18 miles west of Sherman; part of William C. Denton land Feb 1875 B. L. PATE paid $1000 and $600 by note to Henry D and wife, S E, Pearce land was out of the J C Marshall headright survey, approximately 9 miles south of Sherman; 80 acres 4 Aug 1876 Evaline PATE paid $100 land was on the waters of Pawpaw being a part of the headright of W R Caruthers; lots number 1 and 2 of block number 15 in Layne's addition to the City of Denison 5 June 1876 filed 3 Sep 1877 James M. PATE of Grayson County, TX was paid $200 by Sarah Shields land was located on the water of Range Creek about 18 miles west of Sherman; William Denton survey 5 May 1877 Sharon Fitzpatrick

Hi, I remeber that Glenn B. Kemp was buried in Atmore,Al where he was born. Here is the Obit I found. Glenn B. Kemp Glenn Brockton Kemp, age 79, passed away peacefully at home on Saturday morning, May 5, 2001. He was born in Atmore, Ala., on Dec. 27, 1921. After attending Perkinston Junior College, Mr. Kemp enlisted in the Army Air Corps, where he served as a combat cargo pilot in India. He received the Distinguished Flying Cross with one oak leaf cluster, the Air Medal with two oak leaf clusters, and the Asiatic-Pacific Theater Medal with one Bronze Star. He flew 96 combat missions before being honorably discharged. Upon his return to the United States he attended the University of Alabama, where he graduated with a bachelor of arts degree in music. After working several years at White Sands Proving Ground, N.M., he spent his remaining work years with Vitro Services in Fort Walton Beach, Fla. Mr. Kemp was preceded in death by his parents, Rodolphus Lafayette Kemp and Leona Lee Smith Kemp; and four siblings, as well as a son, John Rodgers Kemp. Survivors include his wife of 49 years, Margaret Rodgers Kemp; sons, Charles and wife Mary of Kansas City, Kan., Thomas and wife Sally of Pinellas Park, Fla., and Robert of Fort Walton Beach. Grandchildren include Andrea Barfety and husband Franck of Mission, Kan., Grant and Spencer Kemp of Pinellas Park, Fla., and Hannah Kemp of Fort Walton Beach. He also has one great-granddaughter, Camille Barfety of Mission, Kan. Graveside services will be conducted at 11 a.m. Thursday, May 10, at Oak Hill Cemetery in Atmore with the Rev. Richard Troost officiating. In lieu of flowers, the family requests donations be made to Hospice of Northwest Florida, 101 Hart S

Ernie Two items- 1 I wonder if your Glenn B Kemp married the dau of William Rodgers and Vicey PATE Rodgers identified in the 1930 census as Docia Rogers. Docia is a nickname for Theodocia or Theodosia, a given name that recurs in the Robert F Pate family in the Pensacola area. Perhaps her name was Margaret Theodocia Rodgers or Theodocia Margaret Rodgers. Her age makes her the better candidate to be the wife of Glen Kemp. 2 Your Kemp family was up in Escambia Co ALABAMA, just north of Pensacola. I had them in FLORIDA in 1930, but they were in ALABAMA 1-Thomas C "Tom" PATE (Aug 1873-1945) sp-Mary T BECK (Mar 1877-1951) . . 2-Mary Louisa PATE (Feb 1893-) . . 2-Eugene E PATE (22 May 1895-bef 22 May 1896) . . 2-Anna M PATE (21 Jun 1897-Jan 1979) . . 2-Vicey N PATE (21 Jun 1899-17 May 1998) . . 2-Emily Elverta PATE (abt 1902-19 Feb 1917) . . 2-Robert E PATE (1 Nov 1903-29 Apr 1988) . . 2-Malcolm Henry PATE (17 Jan 1907-Aug 1982) . . 2-Christian PATE (3 Dec 1905-3 Dec 1905) . . 2-Bernard Austin PATE (11 Nov 1911-7 Nov 1974) . . 2-Aletha Augusta PATE (26 Nov 1914-1 Mar 1984) . . 2-James PATE (17 May 1919-17 May 1919) . . 2-Jessie (Jim) PATE (17 May 1919-17 May 1919) 1920 Census Escambia Co FLORIDA Enum District 33, sheet 15a, Pensacola, site 252/426- William Rogers 24 W/M Head MD Bayman FL/Swe/Fl 1896 Vicy Rogers 20 W/F Wife MD Fl/Al/Fl 1900 Marie Rogers 1 W/F Dau SGL 1Y 9M Fl/Fl/Fl 1919 Thomas C Pate was located at site 251/425 1930 Census Escambia Co FLORIDA Enum District 17-5, sheet 8B, Penascola, site 193/205 William Rogers 34 W/M Head MD Dock Labor Fl/Swe/FL 1896 Vicie L Rogers 30 W/F Wife MD Fl/Fl/Fl 1900 Marie Rogers 12 W/F Dau SGL Fl/Fl/Fl 1918 William H Rogers 8 W/M Son SGL Fl/Fl/Fl 1922 Dosia Rogers 6 W/F Dau SGL Fl/Fl/Fl 1924 Robert Rogers 3 W/M Son SGL Fl/Fl/Fl 1927 Rebecca Rogers 3m W/F Dau SGL Fl/Fl/Fl 1930 Her father, Thomas C Pate, was located 2 nearby at site 194/207 1930 Census Escambia Co ALABAMA Enum Dist 27-13, sheet 9A, Canoe, site 171/189 L Rodolph Kemp 50 1879 Head MS Leona Kemp 48 1881 Wife AL A L Kemp 23 1906 Son AL Cliett M Kemp 10 1919 Son AL Glenn Kemp 8 1921 Son AL Elizabeth Kemp 20 1909 DNL AL 1920 Census Escambia Co ALABAMA Enum Dist 93, sheet 12A, Atmore, site 226/256 Rudolph KEMP SSDI VICY L RODGERS 21 Jun 1899 - 17 May 1998 d Escambia Co FLORIDA GLENN B KEMP 27 Dec - 1921 05 May 2001 d Okaloosa Co FLORIDA CLIETT M KEMP 21 Sep 1919 - 20 Jun 1991 d Okaloosa Co FLORIDA

I am informed that Marie Rodgers, dau of Vicy PATE Rodgers 1st married a Mr. Williams and 2nd to Unknown. She had no children. On rechecking the census records there is no evidence that her name was Margaret. Joel

Vicie Pate and William Rogers are buried in Clopton in unmarked graves. Her grandson or great grandson ran a car repair place on Longleaf Drive in Pensacola, I don't know their names or the name of the car repair. Vivie born cJune 1899, she died May 17, 1998. PATE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 PATE-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 2 Today's Topics: #1 [PATE] Looking for family of the P [Pooh4U386@aol.com] #2 Re: [PATE] Looking for family of t ["Joel Pate" ] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from PATE-D, send a message to PATE-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:30:05 EST From: Pooh4U386@aol.com To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE] Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and R.L. Kemp Fl,MS Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and Kemp. Most likely living in Fl or MS. Here is what I know. Pate Family- Had 8 kids 1. Unknown Girl Pate married an Unknown Rogers/Rodgers-Parents of below Margaret Rodgers 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. Rogers/Rodgers Family 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Margaret Rodgers married Glenn B. Kemp deceased s/o Rodolphus Lafayette Kemp Note: Unknown Pate Rodgers ( moms maiden name Pates had 8 kids ) Unknown Rodgers ( Rodgers had 9 kids ) Thanks email me directly at pooh4u386@aol.com Ernie Smith Charleston,SC ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:21:28 -0500 From: "Joel Pate" To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PATE] Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and R.L. Kemp Fl,MS L Rodolph Kemp was enumerated in the 1930 census of Escambia Co FL. Household included a Glenn Kemp age 8 See Enum Dist 27-13, sheet 9A, Pensacola (Canoe), site --/-- Glenn Kemp b ca 1922 Thomas C Pate of Escambia Co had a dau, Vicey N Pate, who married William Rodgers in Escambia Co prior to 1919. This Rodgers family appears in the 1920 and 1930 censuses of Escambia Co FL 1920- Enum Dist 33, sheet 15, Pensacola, site 251/426 1930-Enum Dist 17-15/8B, Pensacola, site 193/204 Oldest child of Vicey Pate Rodgers seems to be Marie or Margaret Marie Rodgers b ca 1919 Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:30 PM Subject: [PATE] Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and R.L. Kemp Fl,MS > Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and Kemp. Most likely living > in Fl or MS. Here is what I know. > > Pate Family- Had 8 kids > 1. Unknown Girl Pate married an Unknown Rogers/Rodgers-Parents of below > Margaret Rodgers > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > Rogers/Rodgers Family > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. Margaret Rodgers married Glenn B. Kemp deceased s/o Rodolphus Lafayette > Kemp > Note: > Unknown Pate Rodgers ( moms maiden name Pates had 8 kids ) > Unknown Rodgers ( Rodgers had 9 kids ) > > Thanks email me directly at pooh4u386@aol.com > > Ernie Smith > Charleston,SC > >

Vicie Pate and William Rogers are buried in Clopton in unmarked graves. Her grandson or great grandson ran a car repair place on Longleaf Drive in Pensacola, I don't know their names or the name of the car repair. Vivie born cJune 1899, she died May 17, 1998. PATE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 PATE-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 2 Today's Topics: #1 [PATE] Looking for family of the P [Pooh4U386@aol.com] #2 Re: [PATE] Looking for family of t ["Joel Pate" ] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from PATE-D, send a message to PATE-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:30:05 EST From: Pooh4U386@aol.com To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE] Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and R.L. Kemp Fl,MS Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and Kemp. Most likely living in Fl or MS. Here is what I know. Pate Family- Had 8 kids 1. Unknown Girl Pate married an Unknown Rogers/Rodgers-Parents of below Margaret Rodgers 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. Rogers/Rodgers Family 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Margaret Rodgers married Glenn B. Kemp deceased s/o Rodolphus Lafayette Kemp Note: Unknown Pate Rodgers ( moms maiden name Pates had 8 kids ) Unknown Rodgers ( Rodgers had 9 kids ) Thanks email me directly at pooh4u386@aol.com Ernie Smith Charleston,SC ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 09:21:28 -0500 From: "Joel Pate" To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PATE] Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and R.L. Kemp Fl,MS L Rodolph Kemp was enumerated in the 1930 census of Escambia Co FL. Household included a Glenn Kemp age 8 See Enum Dist 27-13, sheet 9A, Pensacola (Canoe), site --/-- Glenn Kemp b ca 1922 Thomas C Pate of Escambia Co had a dau, Vicey N Pate, who married William Rodgers in Escambia Co prior to 1919. This Rodgers family appears in the 1920 and 1930 censuses of Escambia Co FL 1920- Enum Dist 33, sheet 15, Pensacola, site 251/426 1930-Enum Dist 17-15/8B, Pensacola, site 193/204 Oldest child of Vicey Pate Rodgers seems to be Marie or Margaret Marie Rodgers b ca 1919 Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:30 PM Subject: [PATE] Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and R.L. Kemp Fl,MS > Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and Kemp. Most likely living > in Fl or MS. Here is what I know. > > Pate Family- Had 8 kids > 1. Unknown Girl Pate married an Unknown Rogers/Rodgers-Parents of below > Margaret Rodgers > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > Rogers/Rodgers Family > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. Margaret Rodgers married Glenn B. Kemp deceased s/o Rodolphus Lafayette > Kemp > Note: > Unknown Pate Rodgers ( moms maiden name Pates had 8 kids ) > Unknown Rodgers ( Rodgers had 9 kids ) > > Thanks email me directly at pooh4u386@aol.com > > Ernie Smith > Charleston,SC > >

L Rodolph Kemp was enumerated in the 1930 census of Escambia Co FL. Household included a Glenn Kemp age 8 See Enum Dist 27-13, sheet 9A, Pensacola (Canoe), site --/-- Glenn Kemp b ca 1922 Thomas C Pate of Escambia Co had a dau, Vicey N Pate, who married William Rodgers in Escambia Co prior to 1919. This Rodgers family appears in the 1920 and 1930 censuses of Escambia Co FL 1920- Enum Dist 33, sheet 15, Pensacola, site 251/426 1930-Enum Dist 17-15/8B, Pensacola, site 193/204 Oldest child of Vicey Pate Rodgers seems to be Marie or Margaret Marie Rodgers b ca 1919 Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pooh4U386@aol.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:30 PM Subject: [PATE] Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and R.L. Kemp Fl,MS > Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and Kemp. Most likely living > in Fl or MS. Here is what I know. > > Pate Family- Had 8 kids > 1. Unknown Girl Pate married an Unknown Rogers/Rodgers-Parents of below > Margaret Rodgers > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > Rogers/Rodgers Family > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. Margaret Rodgers married Glenn B. Kemp deceased s/o Rodolphus Lafayette > Kemp > Note: > Unknown Pate Rodgers ( moms maiden name Pates had 8 kids ) > Unknown Rodgers ( Rodgers had 9 kids ) > > Thanks email me directly at pooh4u386@aol.com > > Ernie Smith > Charleston,SC > >

Looking for family of the Pates,Rogers/Rodgers and Kemp. Most likely living in Fl or MS. Here is what I know. Pate Family- Had 8 kids 1. Unknown Girl Pate married an Unknown Rogers/Rodgers-Parents of below Margaret Rodgers 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. Rogers/Rodgers Family 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Margaret Rodgers married Glenn B. Kemp deceased s/o Rodolphus Lafayette Kemp Note: Unknown Pate Rodgers ( moms maiden name Pates had 8 kids ) Unknown Rodgers ( Rodgers had 9 kids ) Thanks email me directly at pooh4u386@aol.com Ernie Smith Charleston,SC

>From Helen Pate Ross- Jesse PATE married Mrs Elizabeth Allen SMITH 22 Nov 1857 in Williamson Co., TN. She was the widow of Luke L SMITH. This "blended" family obviously moved from Williamson Co to Obion Co between the 1860 census and the 1870 census. This Jesse was the son of Jesse Pate and Nancy Loftin.

In posting information on Randolph Pate b ca 1795 VA there was an error in one of the census enumeration. The error and the correction follow-- [Also see update] ERROR 1870 Obion Co Page 69 Union City, Site 72/72 Jesse Pate---------39 W/M b TN 1831 Elizabeth Pate-----40 W/F b TN 1830 William Pate-------20 W/M b TN 1850 Thomas Pate--------24 W/M b TN 1846 ERROR Luke L Pate--------18 W/M b TN 1852 Sarah Pate---------11 W/F b TN 1859 Lucy Pate---------- 7 W/F b TN 1863 Martha Pate-------- 5 W/F b TN 1865 Robert Pate-------- 2 W/F b TN 1868 CORRECTED 1870 Obion Co Page 69 Union City, Site 72/72 Jesse Pate---------39 W/M b TN 1831 Elizabeth Pate-----40 W/F b TN 1830 William Pate*------20 W/M b TN 1850 Susan Pate*--------24 W/F b TN 1846 Luke L Pate*--------18 W/M b TN 1852 Sarah Pate---------11 W/F b TN 1859 Lucy Pate---------- 7 W/F b TN 1863 Martha Pate-------- 5 W/F b TN 1865 Robert Pate-------- 2 W/F b TN 1868 UPDATE Jesse Pate age 39 recorded in the 1870 census of Obion Co TN, page 69, Union city, site 72/72 married Mrs Elizabeth Allen Smith in Williamson Co prior to 1860. She had several children from her previous marriage. These children were properly enumerated as surnamed Smith in the 1860 census of Williamson Co, TN 1860 Williamson Co, TN Page 212, Nolanville, site 454/441 J Pate--------27 W/M TN 1833 E Pate--------31 W/F TN 1829 Sue Smith-----15 W/F TN 1845 M Smith-------13 W/F TN 1847 W Smith-------11 W/M TN 1849 L L Smith----- 8 W/M TN 1852 Sarah Pate---- 1 W/F TN 1859 William Pate Susan Pate Luke L Pate reported in the 1870 census were in fact William Smith Susan Smith Luke L Smith Thanks Jinks. Joel

Helen: Regarding Randolph Pate b ca 1795 VA 1850 Williamson Co TN Page 295, Civil District 15, site 773/773 Randolph Pate-----55 W/M b VA 1795 Sarah Pate--------50 W/F b VA 1800 Hardin Pate-------22 W/M b TN 1828 Lucy J Pate-------23 W/F b TN 1827 Jesse Pate--------20 W/M b TN 1830 Parmelia Pate-----18 W/F b TN 1832 William Pate Jr---14 W/M b TN 1836 Daniel Pate-------12 W/M b TN 1838 Thomas Pate-------10 W/M b TN 1840 1860 Davidson Co TN, Page 158 Nashville site 918/918 Randolph Pate-----66 W/M b VA 1794 Sallie Pate-------68 W/F b NC 1792 Lucy Pate---------38 W/F b NC 1822 Augustus Pate-----32 W/M b NC 1828 Harding Pate------28 W/M b TN 1832 Permelia Pate-----27 W/M b TN 1833 I note the "shift" in birthplaces for the children and the "shift" in age for the spouse. The 1850 record makes me want to say that his name was William Randolph Pate. If the oft debated Anglo-Scots naming convention was at play in this family, and given the fact that the third son was a "Jr" it appears that it might have been, then "Hardin" is a candidate for Randolph's father's name. Is the Jesse in 1850 the Augustus in 1860? The given name Randolph may have come from an earlier Pate-Randolph marriage Moving forward to 1870 there are 5 households in near proximity in the Union City area of Obion Co TN that pique my interest- 1870 Obion Co Page 69 Union City, Site 72/72 Jesse Pate---------39 W/M b TN 1831 Elizabeth Pate-----40 W/F b TN 1830 William Pate-------20 W/M b TN 1850 Thomas Pate--------24 W/M b TN 1846 Luke L Pate--------18 W/M b TN 1852 Sarah Pate---------11 W/F b TN 1859 Lucy Pate---------- 7 W/F b TN 1863 Martha Pate-------- 5 W/F b TN 1865 Robert Pate-------- 2 W/F b TN 1868 Page 69 Union City, Site 73/73 Daniel Pate--------36 W/M b TN 1834 Nancy E Pate-------30 W/F b TN 1840 Ane E Pate---------10 W/F b TN 1860 Mary E Pate-------- 6 W/F b TN 1864 Charles Pate------- 3 W/M b TN 1867 Page 70 Union City, Site 77/77 Thomas Pate--------33 W/M b TN 1837 Sarah J Pate-------27 W/F b TN 1843 Josephine Pate-----11 W/F b TN 1859 James H Pate------- 8 W/M b TN 1862 Laura Pate--------- 3 W/F b TN 1867 Alice Pate---------2m W/F b TN 1870 Page 70 Union City, Site 81/81 Harvy Pate---------50 W/M b TN 1820 Lucy Pate----------40 W/F b TN 1830 Are Hardin in 1850, Harding in 1860 and Harvy in 1870 the same man? Are Harvy and Lucy Pate husband and wife or brother and sister? I would submit that they were siblings. Moving to the 1880 census - WOODLAND MILLS, OBION CO PAGE 33B Hardin Pate--------55 W/M Head TN/TN/TN 1825 Lucy Pate----------57 W/F Sister TN/TN/TN 1823 WOODLAND MILLS, OBION CO PAGE 25B Jessee Pate--------50 W/M Head TN/VA/VA 1830 Elizabeth Pate-----51 W/F Wife TN/TN/TN 1829 Sallie Pate--------21 W/F Dau TN/VA/TN 1859 Lucy Pate----------16 W/F Dau TN/VA/TN 1864 Martha Pate--------14 W/F Dau TN/VA/TN 1866 Robert Pate--------13 W/M Son TN/VA/TN 1867 Susan Smith--------30 W/F S/Dau TN/TN/TN 1850 I rest my case on the sibling relationship between Hardin and Lucy 1900 Obion Co ED 125, sheet 5, Civil District 10 site 35/36 Harden Pate--------60 W/M Head TN/VA/NC MTH 1840 Lucy Pate----------61 W/F Sist TN/VA/NC MAR 1839 Jessie Pate and family were at site 33/34 Joel

From the Moultrie (GA) Observer online: "Odessa Blalock West ALBANY -- Odessa Blalock West, 97, of 1904 Palmyra Road, Albany, died Friday, Dec. 26, 2003, at Palmyra Nursing Home. Funeral services will be at 2 p.m. Tuesday, Dec. 30, at Banks Funeral Home Chapel in Sylvester. Interment will be in Mt. Pisgah Cemetery. The Rev. C.R. Gamble will officiate. Mrs. West was born Aug. 5, 1906, in Muscogee County, Ga., to William Patrick Blalock and Mattie Carrie Pate Blalock. She lived in Colquitt and Worth counties most of her life and retired from Riverside Manufacturing Co. in Moultrie after more than 20 years. She was a Primitive Baptist. She was preceded in death by her two husbands, Johnny Hinman and A.P. West, and by two sons, William Leroy Hinman and John Andrew Hinman. Survivors include a son and daughter-in-law, Lloyd and Pearl Hinman of Albany; one sister, Mary Sellers of Moultrie; 12 grandchildren; 26 great-grandchildren; and a number of great-great-grandchildren. The family will receive friends from 6-8 p.m. Monday, Dec. 29, at Banks Funeral Home. Banks Funeral Home of Sylvester is in charge of arrangements." Odessa's maternal grandfather was Benjamin Thomas "Tom" PATE, son of Thomas & Mary Ann (HIGDON) PATE of Muscogee Co, GA. Tom's wife was Georgia Ann "Sis" SIZEMORE, daughter of James Marion & Caroline (PATE) SIZEMORE. Odessa's paternal grandmother, Celia Ann (RYALS) BLAYLOCK, m2. John Washington PATE, son of John & Martha Ann (WEATHERS) PATE of Chattahoochee Co, GA. John & Martha Ann were also the parents of Caroline (PATE) SIZEMORE. - John in TX

Diana - this is my direct line - these Pate's were in Smith & Jackson Cos, TN - came there from Bedford Co, VA. The suit actually started in Bedford Co - and Anthony Pate seems to be related to Uriah Stone in some way, which I haven't figured out. I found this info on a scrap of paper in the Nashville Archives - and have tried to find something else on it, but so far have had no luck Jinks

Good morning all, Got the below info in response to a query on my Stone line and thought it might help someone on this list. Anyone know what county in TN these Pates were from? Diana In a message dated 12/28/2003 9:07:40 PM Mountain Standard Time, tracymkirk@charter.net writes: > MIDDLE TENN. SUPERIOR COURT RECORDS, TENN. ARCHIVES,LOOSE PAPERS IN MSS. > DIVISlON, > CARD INDEX FILE. > MARBLE STONER, Adm. > vs. > WILLEROY PATE, MILLEY PATE, STEPHEN PATE, JNO ANDERSON &RHODA, > his wife, JAS C. FERGUSON &LAURY (?) his wife, JAS CARTER & > JANE, his wife, JOHN THOMASON &AGNES, his wife, BOOKE PATE & > SABE PATE; a/ANTHONY PATE, dec'd > Be it remembered that at August Term 1827 of the Supreme Court of error & > appeall > held for the third judicial circuit at the court house in Sparta &on the > 31st day > of August 1827 this cause came to be heard before the Honorable Robert > Whyte, Jacob > Peck &Henry Crabb(?) the presiding judges &was heard upon the bill of the > complt > thro answer, replications exhibitsthe testimony taken in the cause and > arguments of > counsel on both sides when it appeared to the court that ANTHONY PATE the > ancestor > of debts employed the sd MARBLE STONE in l795 to purchase URIAH STONES > interest in > the negroes in the bill mentioned - that the sd MARBLE made sd purchase in > that year > pursuant to his agreement with sd ANTHONY - that the suit in Va. was carried > on for > sd ANTHONY's benefit - that he paid MARBLE STONE for making sd purchase from > URIAH > STONE this sd ANTHONY's trustee &agent - &that in atro(?) paid sd MARBLE the > consideration advanced the sd URIAH for his equity of redemption in the > negroes and > this court being of opinion that the assignment procured by MARBLE STONE > from URIAH > STONE in 1806 as alledged in his bill &the interest acquired by it enured to > the > benefit of ANTHONY PATES representatives the debts in this suit - whereupon > the > court doth order adjudge &decree that the bill of the (??) be issued with > costs & > that execution issue > Recorded Augt 1827 >

John: Back in October you posted an inquiry (message #2618) on the PATE venue at GenForum regarding three PATE members of the 6th Mississippi Cavalry (Confederate). The three: William Pate John Pate James Pate The Consolidated Confederate Roster has service card images for: William Pate Company A, 6th Mississippi Cavalry Battn. John Pate Company A, 6th Mississippi Cavalry Battn. James Pate Company A, 6th Mississippi Cavalry Battn. I would suggest that you go to the Internet source where you found the roster and see if this unit, Company A, was principally recruited from Tishomingo Co MS. If so, I would suggest that PEHAPS these three MIGHT POSSIBLY be brothers, being the sons of Jackson and Mariah Pate of Tishomingo Co MS. A review of the 1850 and 1860 censuses of Tishomingo tends to support this SPECULATION. 1850 Tishomingo Co MS Page 1, District 4, site 4/4 JACKSON PATE 45 W/M TN 1805 MARIAH PATE 36 W/F TN 1814WILLIAM PATE 13 W/M AL 1837 MARY PATE 11 W/F MS 1839JOHN PATE 7 W/M MS 1843JAMES PATE 5 W/M MS 1845 [Mary Jane Pate perhaps md Billings] William Pate PERHAPS was James William Henderson Pate who married Rebecca Washburn 28 Sep 1858 in Tishomingo Two 1860 Tishomingo Co census enumerations- Page 452, Burnsville Twsp, site 3043/3043 MARIAH PATE 47 W/F VA 1813 JOHN B PATE 18 W/M AL 1842 JAMES M PATE 14 W/M MS 1846 [Perhaps wid/o Jackson Pate see 1850] Page 452, Burnsville Twsp, site 3045/3045 WILLIAM H PATE 23 W/M AL 1837 REBECCA PATE 21 W/F MS 1839 MARY J PATE 1 W/F MS 1859 [Perhaps James William Henderson Pate and Rebecca Washburn md 28 Sep 1858 Tishomingo Co] I can find no further trace of these men in the Tishomingo and Itawamba Co censuses. Just a GUESS, but I think they were all GTT. Go back to the Consolidated Confederate Roster for another look and you will find a service card for a C L Pate Company __, 6th Mississippi Cavalry Battn. I SUSPECT that this was a man named Christianberry Lee Pate who was born, probably in Itawamba Co MS in 1847. He was later in Tishomingo Co 1900 CHISSOM B PATE 52 W/M MS 09/1847 ED 116/20 TISHOMINGO - BEAT 5 1880 CHRISON T PATE 32 W/M MS ED 199/18 TISHOMINGO - BEAT 5 1860 CRESENBERY L PATE 12 W/M MS ITAWAMBA CO P 224 RYANS WELL site 1485/1485 I have some notes that indicate C L PATE or perhaps his widow applied for a Confederate Pension in 1913 from Tishomingo Co. C L Pate perhaps died in 1911 and is buried in Tishomingo Co C L Pate was from the Tuscaloosa AL Pate lines. This rather spotty and unproven military record does support the speculation that Tishomingo Co was a principal recruiting area for the 6th Mississippi Cavalry Bttn. Merry Christmas Joel

Kim, I lost your email.........got a lead on Zue Pate! Jim Davis jipa@olcwireless.net is married to Zue's great great grand daughter and has photos taken 1916 of the five Pate sisters. He wants you to join in on this chase along with us. You might want to contact him? For the list, Missouri Pate is my grandmother's sister. (Carrie Pate ) Zue abandoned her family and ran away with a Pentecostal preacher named Dave West. Now we need to 'find' records, possibly in the Wichita Falls, Texas area? I know there is at least one other of us out there, and the fellow I am in contact has much info on the Hagain family.......that was Zue's offical married name. Don'tcha just love the Internet! Happy Holidays to all, ear in California earphoto@inreach.com

Max: Joel Pate 1806-1871 had a son, Joel Pate b 10 Apr 1848 in Dale Co AL d 3 Jan 1910 in Washington Co FL. Joel Pate 1848-1910 married Sarah A Hewett (Hewlett) 7 Aug 1865. They appear in the 1900 census of Holmes Co FL at ED 48, sheet 31, Hathaway Mill, site 564/564. Do you have any evidence that they divorced in 1908? I have his death as 8 Jan 1910 and hers as 1930. Joel

Hello All, I'm looking for add'l info on and desc of Joel Pate and Elizabeth Sloan of GA - FL. If nothing else, maybe there will be something here to help someone. Max Descendants of Joel Pate ------------------------ 1-Joel Pate b. 1806, GA., d. 30 Jan 1871 +Elizabeth Sloan b. 1809, GA., d. 6 Mar 1883 |--2-John Pate b. 6 Oct 1829, GA. |--2-Nancy Pate b. 18 Sep 1831, GA., d. 7 Feb 1897 | +William Rufus Franklin Potter b. 1829, FL., d. 19 Sep 1863, Chickamaunga, | GA. | |--3-Alexander Potter b. 1861, FL. | +Mr. Unknown (Potter?) | |--3-Beulah Potter b. 1867, FL. | |--3-Virginia Potter b. 1873, FL. | |--3-Angus Potter b. 1870, FL. |--2-Bennett Pate b. 12 Sep 1833, GA., d. 21 Jun 1864 | +Amey Yates b. 28 Mar 1841, Washington Co., FL., d. 20 Nov 1875, Washington | Co., FL. | |--3-James L. Pate b. 5 Feb 1857, FL., d. 21 Nov 1893, (Bethel | | Primitive Baptist Church Cem., Caryville, Washington, FL.) | |--3-Angus McKinnon Pate b. 27 Mar 1859, FL., d. 24 May 1940, Bonifay, | | Holmes, FL. | |--3-Nancy Elizabeth Pate b. 13 Jan 1862, d. 14 Mar 1958, (Pleasant Grove | | United Methodist Church Cem., Washington Co., FL.) | |--3-Amy Jane Pate b. 8 Jul 1864, FL., d. 27 Feb 1948, Vernon, Washington, | | FL. |--2-Susan Pate b. 19 Dec 1835, GA., d. 15 May 1892, Washington Co., FL. | +Gadi Yates b. 30 Nov 1833, Washington Co., FL., d. 12 Feb 1912, Bonifay, | Holmes, FL. | |--3-James Gadi Yates b. 17 Aug 1854, Washington Co., FL., d. 31 Jan 1919, | | (Bethel Primitive Baptist Church Cem., Caryville, Washington, FL.) | |--3-John Yates b. 2 Mar 1857, Washington Co., FL., d. 8 Mar 1892, (Bethel | | Primitive Baptist Church Cem., Caryville, Washington, FL.) | |--3-William Gadi Yates b. 25 Nov 1858, Washington Co., FL., d. 5 Dec 1920, | | FL. | |--3-Levi Yates b. 25 May 1861, Washington Co., FL., d. 21 Nov 1938, (Bethel | | Primitive Baptist Church Cem., Caryville, Washington, FL.) | |--3-Sarah Ann Yates b. 1864, Washington Co., FL. | |--3-Amy Malinda Yates b. 13 Mar 1866, Washington Co., FL., d. 1 Apr 1873, | | (Bethel Primitive Baptist Church Cem., Caryville, Washington, FL.) | |--3-Elizabeth Yates b. 1870, Washington Co., FL. | |--3-Amanda "Amy" Yates b. 20 Dec 1872, Washington Co., FL., d. 15 Oct 1953, | | Bonifay, Holmes, FL. | |--3-Joseph W Yates b. 15 Jun 1875, Washington Co., FL., d. 9 Mar 1892, | | (Bethel Primitive Baptist Church Cem., Caryville, Washington, FL.) | |--3-Mary Yates b. 1877, Washington Co., FL. | |--3-Bennett "Ben" Yates b. 18 Sep 1877, Washington Co., FL., d. 5 Nov 1964, | | Bonifay, Holmes, FL. | |--3-Eliza Yates b. Oct 1880, Washington Co., FL. |--2-David Pate b. 22 Jun 1838, GA., d. Aft 1 Jun 1880 | +Eliza Cravey b. 1841, GA., d. Aft 1 Jun 1880 | |--3-Mahalea Elizabeth Pate b. 17 Jun 1860, FL., d. 24 Oct 1924 | |--3-John Pate b. Jun 1862, FL., d. 1942 | |--3-Rudolph J. Pate b. Jun 1866, FL., d. Aft 1 Jan 1920 |--2-Lucinda Pate b. 12 Nov 1840, GA., d. 5 Sep 1864 | +Levi Yates b. 11 Jul 1836, Washington Co., FL., d. 28 Feb 1908, Washington | Co., FL. | |--3-Mary Jane Yates b. 14 Aug 1859, FL., d. 26 Jul 1864 | |--3-Joel Levi Yates b. 14 Sep 1861, d. 30 Jun 1864 | |--3-Benett Yates b. 25 Sep 1862, d. 15 Jun 1868 |--2-Elizabeth Pate b. 1 Jul 1843, AL., d. Aft 12 Jan 1886 | +Levi Yates b. 11 Jul 1836, Washington Co., FL., d. 28 Feb 1908, Washington | Co., FL. | |--3-Effie Jane Yates b. 7 Sep 1866, Washington Co., FL., d. 11 Jun 1948, | | Chipley, Washington, FL. | |--3-Thomas Wilson Yates b. 1 Apr 1869, Washington Co., FL., d. 25 Jan 1953, | | Caryville, Washington, FL. | |--3-Lucinda Yates b. 22 Feb 1871, Washington Co., FL., d. 6 May 1889, | | Washington Co., FL. | |--3-Alexander D. "Elick" Yates b. 15 Oct 1873, Holmes Co., FL., d. 20 Feb | | 1953, St. Petersburg, Pinellas, FL. | |--3-James Henry Davison Yates b. 5 Jun 1876, d. Aft 1 Jun 1880 | |--3-Nancy Elizabeth Yates b. 23 Feb 1878, Holmes Co., FL., d. 22 Dec 1952, | | Bonifay, Holmes, FL. | |--3-William Call "Will" Yates b. 25 Jun 1881, Washington Co., FL., d. 16 | | Aug 1972, Pensacola, Escambia, FL. | |--3-Daniel McKinnon "Dan" Yates b. 13 Jan 1886, Holmes Co., FL., d. 10 Dec | | 1955, Holmes Co., FL. |--2-Rudolph F. Pate b. 3 Jul 1846, Coffee Co, AL., d. 28 Jun 1864, FL. |--2-Joel Pate b. 10 Apr 1848, Dale Co., AL., d. 3 Jan 1910, Caryville, | Washington, FL. +Sarah A. Hewlett b. Dec 1847, FL., d. Aft May 1886 |--3-Rudolph Pate b. 26 May 1886, FL., d. 1934, (Bethel Primitive Baptist | Church Cem., Caryville, Washington, FL.)