Joel, Thanks for the information. As you know, it's not my line. I'm just curious about the family. In studying the naming patterns, I can't help but notice that Sarah Pate Johnson's brother Elijah Bennett Pate names son William Allen Pate, b Jan 1843. Then she (SPJ) names son b 1 Jan 1843/1844 William Allen Pate Johnson. The confederate pension records will probably lead to correct death date for William Allen Pate Johnson & might also contain marriage date info. I will look them up the next time I go to Wallace State. Thanks for your help. Lindy Hard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:04 PM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] William Allen Pate JOHNSON

Dear Jinks, Forgot to thank you for your info. Is greatly appreciated. Tarrie ----- Original Message ----- From: Jinks Lee To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Perry Eason Pate Tarrie - in the 1880 Unicoi Co, TN census there is ED39/11 Moses Pate age 32 b. VA/father b. TN/mother b. TN Margarett Pate age 30 David N Pate age 10 William W Pate age 8 John Pate age 6 Hester E Pate age 4 ESOM P PATE age 2 Samuel B Pate age 2 mos Moses Pate & Margarett Pate and son, Nathan, were in1870 Carter Co, TN In 1910 Lenawee Co, MI ED 74/5A Perry E Pate age 31 b. TN/TN/TN Eliza E Pate age 31 Mary J Pate age 10 Loyd M Pate age 8 Bernie F Pate age 5 Lelia E Pate age 1y6m This shows Perry and Eliza have been md 12 years, had 7 children/5 still living it was his first marriage, and her 2nd marriage Hope this helps Jinks

Lindy: 1900 Clinch Co GA, Morgan District, page 265B site 16/16 William A Johnson 56 W/M Head md b Jan 1844 GA/GA/GA Elizabeth Johnson 69 W/F Wife md 33y 5/4 b Sep 1830 SC/SC/SC Dixon Griffis was at site 4/4 on the previous page 1910 Clinch Co GA, 1141 GMD, page 217, site 106/106 William A P Johnson 66 W/M Head md2 GA/NC/GA b 1844 Jennie Johnson 19 W/F Wife md2 GA/GA/GA He would have been age 76 in the 1920 census. I could find him. The GA Death Index has a William Johnson age not given died 14 May 1922 in Clinch Co cert 31682-D

I was looking at the Echols Co GA rootsweb archives for David Johnson/Sarah Pate family (William Pate line) and found the Muster Roll of Co G 50th Reg't GA Inf, CSA, Army of Northern VA, Clinch & Echols counties, Clinch Volunteers William A. P. Johnson [listed by John Ben Pate as William Allen Pate Johnson, b 21 Jan 1844, s/o David & Sarah Pate Johnson] This muster roll has him as Pvt 4 Mar 1862. Left command without permission & joined Co D, 9th Florida Inf 6 Oct 1862. Returned to this company... [has a good bit of info listed. Later received pension]... (Born in Dooly county, Ga. Jan 21, 1843. Died abt 1928.) Does anyone know if correct birth date is 1843 or 1844? Also, in this same company are: John Johnson, b1841 who left command & joined the same Co D 9th FL Inf Riley Johnson, discharged underaged... [later] enlisted Co I 4th Regt GA Inf 2 Jan 1863 Thomas Johnson William S Johnson, b 1843 left without permission & joined Co D 9th FL Inf Also, on the 1880 Census Clinch county GA in the household of Dickson Griffis is Sarah Johnson, age 61, mother-in-law. Is this Sarah Pate Johnson? Dickson Griffis M W 30 GA Farmer SC GA Nancy E Griffis F W 28 GA KH Sarah J Griffis F W 10 GA At home GA GA Maryan Griffis F W 9 GA GA GA Love T Griffis F W 5 GA GA GA Lucius C Griffis M W 4 GA GA GA Sarah Johnson F W 61 GA GA GA [census source: www.familysearch.org 1880 US census] Thanks for any help received. Lindy Hard

Helen - Thanks very nuch for your prompt reply. You gave me some interesting suggestioins and I'll see where they lead me. Best regards to your family - John >

Tarrie - in the 1880 Unicoi Co, TN census there is ED39/11 Moses Pate age 32 b. VA/father b. TN/mother b. TN Margarett Pate age 30 David N Pate age 10 William W Pate age 8 John Pate age 6 Hester E Pate age 4 ESOM P PATE age 2 Samuel B Pate age 2 mos Moses Pate & Margarett Pate and son, Nathan, were in1870 Carter Co, TN In 1910 Lenawee Co, MI ED 74/5A Perry E Pate age 31 b. TN/TN/TN Eliza E Pate age 31 Mary J Pate age 10 Loyd M Pate age 8 Bernie F Pate age 5 Lelia E Pate age 1y6m This shows Perry and Eliza have been md 12 years, had 7 children/5 still living it was his first marriage, and her 2nd marriage Hope this helps Jinks

This old obituary provides very good information on the parents of Perry Eason Pate of Unicoi Co TN and Lenawee Co MI [From GARLAND-L] This is from an old Erwin newspaper abt January 20, 1926 She died in Cincinnati, Ohio Saturday January 16, 1926 LUVINA J. GARLAND B: June 8, 1848 Carter Co.,TN D: January 16,, 1926 Cincinnati, Ohio dau.of: John Gutridge Garland Susan Whitehead ####################################################### The funeral of Mrs. Vina Pate, which was arranged to occur at 10 o'clock a. m. Tuesday, was delayed a few hours, awaiting the arrival of a daughter and two sons from Adrian, Mich. On Tuesday afternoon a great number of people gathered to pay their last respects to Mrs. Lovena Pate, who died Saturday evening in Cincinnati, Ohio. The services were conducted by Rev. A. C. Sherwood of Erwin, Tenn., after which the body was laid to rest in the Swingle cemetery by the side of her late husband, Nathan Pate, who preceded her to the grave some five years and her mother Susan Garland, who was one hundred and four and one- half years old at the time of her death about six years ago. The flower-girls were: Mrs. A. D. Phillips,Misses Bertie Buchanan, Pearl and Ruby and Opal Britt, Hazel Erwin, Louise McInturff, Louise Street, Jessie Gauge and Kate and Florence Boothe. The pall-beares were from the young men of the town, Mr. Arthur Pate's friends. As the funeral procession passed down the street. it paused in silence for about five minutes in front of Mrs. Pate's old home. This mute tribute in remembrance of one who so loved and cherished her home and all that pertained to its comfort, its beauty, its duties and its scaredness was touching in the extreme, and it brought to mind how faithful she was in all these relations. It is no tax of memory to recall her ever watchful care of her aged mother and invalid husband for a number of years before their deaths. although frail herself at the time she never relaxed her diligence day or night to look after their safety and comfort. We do not hesitate in saying, we never saw such loyalty, such devotion, such faithfulness in any one as she exhibited under these trying circumstances as a daughter, a wife, a mother and a grandmother. And her helpfulness was not confined to the home. She was kind to friends, neighbors, acquaintances and strangers. It must be a fact that no one ever went to her home in blossom time, even to a tiny child, just large enough to grasp a flower in its tiny fist, and came away without a nose gay. Her flower garden was a wonder and a beauty never to be forgotten. How fitting the many and beautiful floral offerings at her burial. The deeased was Lovena Garland, daughter of John and Susan Garland, was born and reared in the Limestone Cove, was married in youth to Nathan Pate, and lived her long and useful life in this vicinity. She lived for may years in Unicoi, until the death of her husband. Since then she has lived part of the time here, part in Adrian, Mich. and part in Cincinnati, Ohio. At the time of her death she was making her home with her daughter, Mrs. John Sutphin in Cincinnati. On Friday, last the physicians, who were attending her in her illness, advised an operation to remove a thyroid tumor which was obstructing her breathing. This was offered as a mere chance of life. She was taken to the Jewish hospital on Saturday where the operation was performed, and while it afforded relief did not avail to prolong the life which was already spent and she passed away Saturday evening. The deceased was seventy-seven years old and was from her child- hood a member of the Christian church. She is survived by two daughters. Mrs. Fuller Miller of Adrian, Mich., Mrs. John Sutphin of Cincinnati, Ohio; four sons, Messers Perry and John Pate, of Adrian, Mich; George of Johnson City; A. R. Pate of Unicoi, and a great number of grandchildren and great grandchildren. ######################################################## Mrs. George Pate and daughters are guest of Mrs. Sallie Boothe and famly. Messrs. Perry and John Pate and Mesdames Miller and Sutphin are seeing old friends in Unicoi. They are here on account of the funeral of their mother, Mrs. Vina Pate. They will take leave the latter part of the week for their respective homes. All of Mrs. Pate's children were here except Mr. George Pate, who was in Florida and could not be reached in time. #######################################################

This from new subscriber Tarrie Pate Dear Friends and Cousins, My name is Tarrie L. Pate. My Father was Elmer L. Pate born in 1914 in Adrian MI. My Grandfather, Perry Eason Pate was born in 1876 in Unicoi Co. TN. My Grandmother, Elizabeth was born in 1878 in NC, Her parents were Jefferson Jones and Mary Garland. My Grandparents were both married to other people(according to the 1930 census) but I don't know to whom. My Father's brothers and sisters were, Lloyd, Bernard, Ida, Hazel, Mabel, and Grace. Would appreciate any info you could give to me. Thanks a lot, Tarrie P.S. Somewhere along the line, there is supposed to be a Cherokee Indian connection

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looking for info on the Pate family in Wilson Co, Tn. in the 1800. The son's name was Noah. John Jackson

Hi Bob - good to hear from you - but I think the Breckinridge is definitely the COUNTY - not the town. The woods around Breckinridge Co were FULL of Pate's - they moved there in the early 1800's from VA, and I have quite a lot of info on that line. Jinks

Hi Jinks - I was checking the Kentucky State map trying to see where Breckenridge was located and noticed that I had two maps. The first map showed Breckenridge in Harrison Co., Ky, the second map showed Breckenridge Co. the problem was they are a long way apart. The county is located west of Elizabethtown and north of Bowling Green, the town is northeast of Lexington near Cythiana. This could expand the search for A.T. Pate or could just be a printing error. The map with the town was printed in 1994, the other was not dated. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jinks Lee" <jinksp@juno.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] A T Pate 64.5.1.9.5.1 > Does anyone have info on A (Amiel?) T Pate > b. 2 Nov 1894 in Breckinridge Co, KY?? > He was son of John William Pate b. 2 Jan 1870 and > Louisa Ella (McQuady) Pate > > Is he this A T Pate?? > 1920 Montgomery Co, OH > A T Pate age 26 b. KY > Beatrice L Pate age 27 b. KY > A T Pate, Jr age 3 b. OH > Harry H Pate age 9 mos b. OH > > Jinks >

Does anyone have info on A (Amiel?) T Pate b. 2 Nov 1894 in Breckinridge Co, KY?? He was son of John William Pate b. 2 Jan 1870 and Louisa Ella (McQuady) Pate Is he this A T Pate?? 1920 Montgomery Co, OH A T Pate age 26 b. KY Beatrice L Pate age 27 b. KY A T Pate, Jr age 3 b. OH Harry H Pate age 9 mos b. OH Jinks

Last October Joel asked if anyone had access to "Stephen F. Austin's Register of Families" edited by Villamae Williams and could post the PATE information from that source. I located the book at the Texas State Library in Austin today. Some interesting background information: "Article J of the massive colonization law of the State of Coahuila and Texas dated March 24, 1825, required that "any foreigner, already in the limits of the state of Coahila and Texas, who wishes to settle himself in it, shall make a declaration of that effect before the Ayuntamiento of the place which he selects as his residence." To complete the process of settlements, a local official had to administer to the foreigner an oath of allegiance to both the religion and laws of Mexico. Afterward, he recorded that the oath had been taken. More importantly for research, he was required to gather pertinent information on the immigrant. This included name, marital and/or family status, place of birth and/or place from where moved, and occupation." p. iii, David B. Gracy II, Texas State Archives The bad news is that there was only one PATE listed (but maybe the above will help if you have other lines who were in Texas early). PATE, John 1826 single moved from Mississippi Sharon Fitzpatrick PS I also copied down PATE references from the Henry County Georgia Land Records Volumes I, II and III. But it looks as if many of these records have already been posted to the list. If there is any interest, let me know and I will post my notes.

Please change my e-mail address from mickeymichaelfax@aol.com to mickeymichael@comcast.net Thaks Michael

Donna: The 1860 census of Warren Co MO has- Page 141, Elkhorn Twsp, Warrenton PO site 85/85 John W Pate----------52 W/M --TN 1808 Martha Pate-----------38 W/F ---KY 1822 James M Pate--------20 W/M --KY 1840 Martha Ann Pate----16 W/F --KY 1844 Matilda Pate-----------12 W/F --MO 1848 John L Pate----------- 10 W/M --MO 1850 Sarah E Pate----------- 8 W/F ---MO 1852 Baxter Marvin Pate- 4 W/M --MO 1856 The surname PATE is assigned on the basis of ditto marks. The given name for the head of household is very definitely John W. I checked it several times. I have Nolen as any alternate name, but I have no source documentation or references as to why. I have three marriages for James M Pate James Marion Pate md 1 Fredericka C Roemer in WARREN Co 03 MAR 1870 James Marion Pate md 2 Emaline Bell Skinner in (COUNTY) (DATE) James Marion Pate md 3 Carrie (NAME) in (PLATTE) (DATE) [Order not certain] The family seems to have been in three households in the 1870 census of Warren Co MO Page 718, Elkhorn Twsp, Warrenton PO site74/62 Page 718, Elkhorn Twsp, Warrenton PO site75/63 Page 718, Elkhorn Twsp, Warrenton PO site76/64 Back up a couple of pages to Page 716, Elkhorn Twsp, Warrenton PO site35/30 and you will see Baxter Pate age 16 living with a Falbreth family. In 1880 Baxter Pate was enumerated in St Louis, St Louis Co, MO (twice). Enum Dist 54, sheet 18, St Louis, site 91/136 and Enum Dist 22, sheet 21, St Louis, site 104/251 By looking at both enumeration profiles we learn that he has married, Fanny, and has a 2 year old son, Edward. He was a Railroad conductor. In 1880 James Marion Pate was enumerated in Platte Co MO Enum Dist 90, sheet 1, Preston, site 11/11, stamped page 82 JAMES M PATE---39 W/M HEAD MINISTER----KY/KY/KY 1841 CARIE PATE--------29 W/F WIFE ---------------------MO/MO/MO 1851 MATILDA PATE--- 9 W/F DAU-----------------------MO/KY/MO 1871 MARY PATE-------- 8 W/F DAU-----------------------MO/KY/MO 1872 HATTIE PATE------ 5 W/F DAU-----------------------MO/KY/MO 1875 JAMES PATE JR---4M W/M SON--------------------MO/KY/MO JAN 1880 Martha Matilda Pate was enumerated in Warren Co MO in 1880 AND in 1900 In the 1900 census of Camden Co MO there is a James M Pate age 60 b ca 1840 who shows KY/KY/KY as his place of birth and his parents place of birth. See Camden Co MO Enum Dist 2, sheet 13, Adair, site 267/269, stamped page 22 His wife of 14 years is shown as Evaline B Pate, perhaps Emaline Belle Skinner James M Pate-----60 W/M Head Md Pensioner----KY/KY/KY Feb 1840 Evaline B Pate----39 W/F Wife Md 14y 4/4-----------IL/OH/OH May 1861 Bertha B Pate-----13 W/F Dau Sgl-----------------------MO/KY/IL Jan 1887 William P Pate---- 9 W/M Son Sgl----------------------MO/KY/IL May1891 Laura B Pate------- 7 W/F Dau Sgl-----------------------MO/KY/IL Feb 1893 Louis Bryan Pate- 2 W/M Son Sgl-----------------------MO/KY/IL Jun 1897 1910, 1920 and 1930 Camden Co MO unfinished research- 1910 Enum Dist 28, sheet 2A, Adair, site 36/26, stamped page 178 JAMES M PATE -----70 W/M HEAD MD2 FARMER KY/TN/KY 1840 EMELINE B PATE--- 49 W/F WIFE MD1 25y 6/5 IL/KY/IN 1861 WILLIAM R PATE --18 W/M SON MO/KY/IL 1892 LAURA B PATE -----16 W/F DAU MO/KY/IL 1894 LEWIS B PATE -----12 W/M SON MO/KY/IL 1898 USTUCE O PATE --- 7 W/M SON MO/KY/IL 1903 1920 J M Pate 79 W/M KY Emeline B Pate 57 W/F WIFE MD IL Evert Otis Pate 17 W/M SON SGL MO 1930 ED 15-1/1A JAMES W PATE----90 W/M KY----ADAIR ED 15-1/1B WILLIAM R PATE----38 W/M MO--ADAIR JESSIE J PATE----32 W/M MO THELMA L PATE----14 W/F MO JAMES E PATE----11 W/M MO WILDA E PATE---- 5 W/F MO WILLIAM L PATE----3y 4m W/M MO ED 15-14/1A EUSTACE O PATE----27 W/M MO--ADAIR NETHEL E PATE----26 W/F MO LOWELL V PATE---- 6 W/M MO EUSTACE O PATE---- 4 W/M MO JESSE E PATE----11m W/M MO

Donna Some questions: Did this family move to Warren Co MO? Was he Nolen Pate enumerated as John W Pate in the 1860 census of Warren Co MO? Was James Pate the same James Marion Pate who in Mar 1869 married Frederika Caroline Roemer in Warren Co MO? [She was also known as Rika or Rike] Was there one child, a son named Baxter Pate or Baxter Marvin Pate b MO ca 1856? Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: <DCuillard@aol.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:21 AM Subject: [PATE] Nolen Pate & Martha > Seeking info on Nolen Pate, born abt 1808 in Tennessee. > He married Martha Mathilda. > They had the following known children: > James born in Bolinggreen, Kentucky > Martha - born Missouri > Malinda - born Missouri > John - born Missouri > Sarah - born Missouri > Bertha - born Missouri > Thank you. > Donna > >

Seeking info on Nolen Pate, born abt 1808 in Tennessee. He married Martha Mathilda. They had the following known children: James born in Bolinggreen, Kentucky Martha - born Missouri Malinda - born Missouri John - born Missouri Sarah - born Missouri Bertha - born Missouri Thank you. Donna

>From a new subscriber I'm trying to do research on my husband's papaw. His name was William Roy Pate. He lived in or around Knoxville TN. He worked on Market Square in Knoxville selling flowers, probably in the 60's or 70's. We don't have any dates on birth or death. We only found out about him recently. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Does anyone have an age listed for Mary W Hudson? Or is there a marriage record for Mary and Robert Hudson? My reason for asking these questions is that I am still seeking the wife of John Pate[?], [Mary?] who became a widow or divorcee and then remarried. Still looking primarily in MO. Grace Kayser In a message dated 1/14/04 12:04:51 PM Central Standard Time, PATE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Since these 7 owned a 1/35 of estate (1/7 x 1/5 = 1/35) I would say they are PROBABLY sibs Mary W Hudson - w/o Robert Hudson Agnes Pate - w/o Wm Pate Elizabeth Patton - w/o James Patton John T Bell Ritta D Bell Josephene B Bell Delilah J Bell Were Mary W Hudson, Agnes Pate and Elizabeth Patton - nee BELL'S???? Does anyone have additional info on these families?? Jinks