Several computer "worms", which attack Microsoft Windows based computers via a flaw in Windows operating system, began widespread circulation on the Internet May 1, 2004. All of these "worms" contain "Sasser". The variants are: -W32.Sasser.Worm -W32.Sasser.B.Worm -W32.Sasser.C.Worm -W32.Sasser.D.Worm It is important to understand these things about the "worms" -THEY DO NOT ENTER YOU COMPUTER BY E-MAIL OR E-MAIL ATTACHMENTS -THERE IS A WAY TO PREVENT ATTACK OR INFECTION -THERE IS A WAY TO REMOVE THE WORM IF IT HAS ENTERED YOUR COMPUTER If your computer is using Windows XP or Windows 2000- Go to http://www.microsoft.com/security/incident/sasser.asp Follow the instructions: -To have your computer checked for infection. -To download any required security patch or update. -To remove infection by Sasser.Worm, B.Worm or C.Worm If your computer is using another Windows operating system, such as Windows 98- Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com Follow the instructions: -To scan for any "Critical Updates" available for your system -To install and activate any available "Critical Updates" If your computer has been infected by one of the Sasser worms there are removal tools available at: http://symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.sasser.removal.tool.html It is important that you have some type of virus protection software- -Installed and running on your computer and, -Updated as updates become available. Virus protection and firewall software programs have automated update features. Your subscription must be current and the automated update feature turned ON. References: http://www.microsoft.com/security/incident/sasser.asp http://www.microsoft.com/security/ http://symantec.com/avcenter/ http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/ http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/enterprise.htm

Well, the new ancestry "service" leaves a bad taste in my mouth. People submitted these trees to free-ly share information with others as I understand it. I know that this costs ancestry.com some money and they have done a wonderful job on other services (with the census data in particular), but still ... to charge for these trees that others researched and provided?????? And, yes, I know that the World Family Trees are much the same and are sold, but you know that before deciding to submit yours. Does anyone know about the Rootsweb WorldConnect project? Is it still active? Is it still "free"? How closely does it mirror the ancestry trees? Thanks, Sharon Fitzpatrick

I also have a bit of a problem with anyone charging for the information that's given to them, but it's a definite sign of the times and if it helps someone else, well......... The WorldConnect Project at Rootsweb seems to be very much alive and well. Hopefully it will remain free as promised. If anyone isn't familiar with it, go to http://wc.rootsweb.com. I'd say like Ancestry, the World Family Tree, or even the LDS files, the information at WorldConnect is as good as the research done before it was put there! I've found many good leads and made connections with 'cousins', as well as finding bad information. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Fitzpatrick To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Your Family Tree Well, the new ancestry "service" leaves a bad taste in my mouth. People submitted these trees to free-ly share information with others as I understand it. I know that this costs ancestry.com some money and they have done a wonderful job on other services (with the census data in particular), but still ... to charge for these trees that others researched and provided?????? And, yes, I know that the World Family Trees are much the same and are sold, but you know that before deciding to submit yours. Does anyone know about the Rootsweb WorldConnect project? Is it still active? Is it still "free"? How closely does it mirror the ancestry trees? Thanks, Sharon Fitzpatrick

I would hope that all, who have put their family tree on Ancestry, will leave them there for trails to follow in the hunt for our ancestors. Whether Ancestry charges for access or not, it is an important tool for all of us. I feel that Ancestry must survive for us to be able to use them for our research. IMOHO mema ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Annette Rose" <earphoto@inreach.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Your Family Tree > If you have submitted a family tree to Ancestry.com, you might want > to know of the change about to be implemented by them. The Family > Trees that have been donated to Ancestry for free distribution to > other > researchers are about to be sold by subscription: the OneWorldTree > Preview cost will be $49.95 for 14 months. If you'd prefer that your > information was not sold, there is a link below which will take you > to a set of instructions on opting out by deleting your tree. > After clicking on the link and arriving at the page, click on "What's > a preview?" near the top of the page. > Read thoroughly and then click on "View our checklist" (which appears > on #3). > Among other things, you will see the following sentence: > "If for any reason you do not want your tree to be part of the new > OneWorldTree service, you must delete it from the Ancestry World > Tree database by tentatively May 21, 2004." > This is the link: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/trees/owt/ > > >

If you have submitted a family tree to Ancestry.com, you might want to know of the change about to be implemented by them. The Family Trees that have been donated to Ancestry for free distribution to other researchers are about to be sold by subscription: the OneWorldTree Preview cost will be $49.95 for 14 months. If you'd prefer that your information was not sold, there is a link below which will take you to a set of instructions on opting out by deleting your tree. After clicking on the link and arriving at the page, click on "What's a preview?" near the top of the page. Read thoroughly and then click on "View our checklist" (which appears on #3). Among other things, you will see the following sentence: "If for any reason you do not want your tree to be part of the new OneWorldTree service, you must delete it from the Ancestry World Tree database by tentatively May 21, 2004." This is the link: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/trees/owt/

If you have submitted a family tree to Ancestry.com, you might want to know of the change about to be implemented by them. The Family Trees that have been donated to Ancestry for free distribution to other researchers are about to be sold by subscription: the OneWorldTree Preview cost will be $49.95 for 14 months. If you'd prefer that your information was not sold, there is a link below which will take you to a set of instructions on opting out by deleting your tree. After clicking on the link and arriving at the page, click on "What's a preview?" near the top of the page. Read thoroughly and then click on "View our checklist" (which appears on #3). Among other things, you will see the following sentence: "If for any reason you do not want your tree to be part of the new OneWorldTree service, you must delete it from the Ancestry World Tree database by tentatively May 21, 2004." This is the link: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/trees/owt/

So sorry to hear about your mother. Patricia Pate Moser

Danny - thanks for informing us about your mother. I did not know her, but, I am *thrilled* that you are planning to take over her research. If there is anything anyone on this list can do to help you or your family, don't hesitate to contact us. Be sure to "subscribe" yourself, and keep in touch with us. How does PATE fit into your Mom's family? Carol Argonian7@aol.com wrote: >I apologize if this is against list policy, but my mother, Loda Gail CHAMPION >Potts, passed away last month (on March 29, 2004). > >I'm her youngest son, Danny, and while I doubt many of you knew her, I wanted >to take a moment and tell you that receiving e-mails from these genealogy >lists brought her a great deal of happiness. > >It's taken me about a month to get around to clearing out her e-mail inbox, >which is why news didn't come sooner. > >I'll be de-subbing this e-mail address (her's) from the list. I will be >taking over her family research work, and try to do at least *half* the job she >did. This e-mail address should still remain active for some time, and my sister >and I will be periodically checking it. > >Again, I'm sorry for the intrusion... I just wanted to be certain that the >word was out, just in case she's ever posted here. > >Thanks, > >Danny Potts > > > > -- God bless always - Carol, NW California Redwood-Pacific Coast Wanted - from Ostfriesland, Wuerttemberg, Texel Island and Rhein-Hunsrueck, Germany!! W A L T E R - C O R E L L - H U E L S M E I E R - R A U C H - R O D E W A L D - R E I C H E R T - W I S C H H A N - B A S T - V a n T A S S E L - R I D E R ========================================== Wanted - from Pope County, IL S I S T L E R - M A X W E L L - M I T C H E L L - D e H A R T - H O L L O W A Y - P A T E - R A G A I N (s) - W I L L I A M S O N - B U L L O C K - P A L M E R - L U N N - T H O M P S O N

I apologize if this is against list policy, but my mother, Loda Gail CHAMPION Potts, passed away last month (on March 29, 2004). I'm her youngest son, Danny, and while I doubt many of you knew her, I wanted to take a moment and tell you that receiving e-mails from these genealogy lists brought her a great deal of happiness. It's taken me about a month to get around to clearing out her e-mail inbox, which is why news didn't come sooner. I'll be de-subbing this e-mail address (her's) from the list. I will be taking over her family research work, and try to do at least *half* the job she did. This e-mail address should still remain active for some time, and my sister and I will be periodically checking it. Again, I'm sorry for the intrusion... I just wanted to be certain that the word was out, just in case she's ever posted here. Thanks, Danny Potts

Good morning all, Has anyone ever determined Samuel and Hugh Pate of the above named counties parentage? I believe they could possibly be brothers to my Nancy Pate (born 1800 TN) who married James Lindsey in Jefferson Co, TN June 1, 1819. And they are possibly the brothers to Lucinda Pate who married a cousin, Jeremiah Pate then Jacob Richards. (Per a Pate list member-Karen). James and Nancy Lindsey had sons Hugh, John, Samuel and Evan Lindsey and relocated to Coosa Co, AL in 1840 as did Jacob and Lucinda Richards with her son Emanuel Pate. Numerous land records tie the two families together in Coosa. Providence Babtist Church records in Jefferson Co, TN name many early Pates including Samuel who was a minister at Providence. Also mentioned are John Lindsey Sr. (probable father to James Lindsey), his known son John Lindsey Jr. and wife Elizabeth Atchley, Isaac Richards, (probable father of Jacob Richards, husband of Lucinda Pate) and Isaac Richards also appears to be the brother of Lydia Atchley, who is Elizabeth Atchley's mother. The earliest Pate mentioned at Providence is Sarah Pate in 1797, then an I. Pate in 1801. In 1803 Elizabeth and Fraley Pate are received into the church. Hannah Pate shows up in 1804. (Samuel Pate was married to Hannah Canterbury but her birth year is 1799). Elizabeth Pate is also mentioned in 1804 and Hannah and Sarah Pate again later in the year. In 1812 Samuel and Lucy Pate are received by experience. 1813 has Samuel in trouble for something I won't repeat. 1814 Lucy Pate is in trouble for whipping a neighbors boy. 1816 Hannah Pate is rec'd by recantation and Susannah Pate is dismissed. 1820 Hannah Pate Sr. is mentioned on the member list and Lucy Pate is excluded. 1821 Lucy Pate is in trouble again and is excommunicated. 1822 Hannah Pate Jr. is rec'd by experience. While John Lindsey Sr. is "distressed" with Sister Pate. 1824 the church welcomes back Samuel Pate. 1825 Roger Pate is asked to speak to a fellow member and Samuel Pate announces his calling to preach. 1827 Samuel and wife Hannah are mentioned on the member list as is another Hannah Pate. 1833 Thomas Pate is rec'd by experience. 1836 Thomas and wife Jane are dismissed. 1837 Thomas wishes to preach. 1838 Jane Pate is dismissed and Thomas is preaching out of the bounds of the church. 1839 Thomas is drinking. 1840 Hannah is mad at a fellow member. 1842 Josephine Pate is rec'd by experience as is Elizabeth Pate. 1847 Eliz is dismissed by letter. 1849 Emeline Pate is rec'd by experience as is Charles E. Pate. 1855 Charles E. is the clerk of the church. 1869 Charles Pate and wife Martha E. Pate are dismissed by letter. And in 1852 the church met at the home of William Pate. (I did not list all the Samuel Pate references as they were numerous...he was very involved with the church in the years after his calling) Dumplin Church records (Jefferson Co) mention James Pate in 1846 rec'd by experience. In 1849 James Pate and Rebecca and Mary Ann Lindsey request letters of dismission as they are going to a new church with Rebecca Jones. 1859 John and Elizabeth Pate are on the member list. The new church, Jones Chapel Babtist Church mentions Rachel, Adaline and Kasaner Pate on the 1849 member list. James Pate's name is crossed out and Dis 185? is written next to his name. Calvin Pate is also crossed out with Dec'd 1862 written next to his name. Then in the minutes Kasaner Pate, Mary Ann Lindsey and Caroline Pate all rec'd by letter in 1849. 1852 James Pate dismissed by letter. 1854 Caroline Pate in now Caroline Lindsey and is excommunicated due to a serious infraction. 1854 Calvin Pate is rec'd by letter. 1862 Calvin Pate died June 30th, 1862. All the church references seem to point to the families of Samuel and Hugh and they have family names in common with the other Pates in Jefferson Co; Jacob Pate and his sons Bird and Daniel but I can find no connection with them at this point. Any ideas? Many thanks for any reply! Best regards, Diana Dobbins

Some of you may have seen the article about this in recent newspapers. The internet address has also been sent to through several rootsweb lists. A search of the Nationwide Gravesite Locator for Pate gives 252 names and places of burial. Its interesting. http://www.cem.va.gov/ Lindy

Joel - I've tried to send you a note twice to your address - and it is being returned - what's up??? J

Yes, I have it. Do you need it? -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate [mailto:patej@nettally.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:35 PM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] William Bruen Pate Coni: Your grand father William Bruen or Bruin Pate [5 Mar 1858-20 Mar 1936], have you taken you tree up one level to his parents? Joel

Coni: Your grand father William Bruen or Bruin Pate [5 Mar 1858-20 Mar 1936], have you taken you tree up one level to his parents? Joel

Bob I would suggest that you go to the US GenWeb site for Wyandotte County Kansas (Kansas City, KS) and Jackson County Missouri (Kansas City, MO). There is a Kansas, IL in Edgar County. Check the sites for "Lookup volunteers". These folks may be able to point you to some records or even look them up for you. Start here: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks.html You may want to explore the State Archives and Libraries of IL- http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/library/home.html or better http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/archives.html MO- http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/Default.asp/ or http://www.sos.mo.gov/library/ KS- http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/ Click: "Genealogy Resources" link Most states have a Death Index (really an index of death certificates) and many have marriage and divorce indexes. These are usually on some type of micro image format and in printed book form. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:45 AM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Re: [PATE] My Grandfather > Hi Joel - Concerning your reply of Nov. 2003. There have been so many if's > in finding my grandfather Robert H. Pate. If anyone could check records for > Kansas City Missouri, and/or Kansas City Illinois after 1930 either marriage > or death or any other type record it would really help me eliminate that > area. As to his work I just don't know what he could do since my father was > so young when he left. I do know that my father W.B. Pate and his brother > Raymond did some railroad work as laborers when they were in their teens. > Thank You for having this venue for all of us looking into our past. > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> > To: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net>; <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE] My Grandfather > > > > Bob: > > Robert H Pate age 54 and family were enumerated in Curry, Putnam Co West > > Virginia in the 1930 census. The enumeration was made 19 Apr 1930. > > Citation: Enumeration District 40-5, sheet 7B, Curry Twsp, site 128/128. > > I'd say that he was in Curry, WV for at least the first quarter of 1930. > > His occupation was listed as Farmer, apparently self employed on a truck > > farm. > > > > Here is a wild lead for you- > > The English and Canadians had decennial censuses, BUT they made them, not > on > > the decade year, e.g., 1850, but on the first year, e.g., 1851. I think > > that the pattern has continued. So there MAY be a Canadian census for > 1931. > > IF so and IF it is available and IF Robert H Pate was in Canada and IF he > > was enumerated, you MAY be able to trace him. > > > > Do you know if he continued working at farming or related work? > > > > Joel > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net> > > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:55 PM > > Subject: [PATE] My Grandfather > > > > > > > I posted this information a couple of years ago and have exhausted most > of > > the ways to locate him. Jinks has looked a few times and thought it > would > > be good to re-visit, maybe someone can help now. > > > > > > My grandfather Robert Harvey Pate was b.12-22-1876 in Wv. He married > > Gillie Paul, his father was Jabe B.L. Pate b. 3-3-1847, in Va., his > mother > > was Martha Perkins b. 1848-1850. > > > Robert and Gillie had 11 children. About 1930 he left his family and > his > > farm to find work. Some older aunts and uncles indicated that he might > have > > called from Kansas or Missouri (Kansas City). There was also a rumor that > > he had called from Canada. > > > If anyone has found a Pate about that age and cannot connect him to a > > family or if their family started about 1930 or later please contact me. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > Bob Pate + rpate@bellsouth.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Willie Bryan Pate 1907-1976 lived all of his life in WV. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coni Davis" <conid@bobcats.k12.ar.us> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:04 AM Subject: RE: [PATE GENEALOGY] Re: [PATE] My Grandfather > What did your W.B. Pate stand for? My grandfather was W. B. Pate, William Bruin Pate. He was called Uncle Billy. He lived in Arkansas. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Pate [mailto:rpate@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:46 AM > To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Re: [PATE] My Grandfather > > Hi Joel - Concerning your reply of Nov. 2003. There have been so many if's > in finding my grandfather Robert H. Pate. If anyone could check records for > Kansas City Missouri, and/or Kansas City Illinois after 1930 either marriage > or death or any other type record it would really help me eliminate that > area. As to his work I just don't know what he could do since my father was > so young when he left. I do know that my father W.B. Pate and his brother > Raymond did some railroad work as laborers when they were in their teens. > Thank You for having this venue for all of us looking into our past. > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> > To: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net>; <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE] My Grandfather > > > > Bob: > > Robert H Pate age 54 and family were enumerated in Curry, Putnam Co West > > Virginia in the 1930 census. The enumeration was made 19 Apr 1930. > > Citation: Enumeration District 40-5, sheet 7B, Curry Twsp, site 128/128. > > I'd say that he was in Curry, WV for at least the first quarter of 1930. > > His occupation was listed as Farmer, apparently self employed on a truck > > farm. > > > > Here is a wild lead for you- > > The English and Canadians had decennial censuses, BUT they made them, not > on > > the decade year, e.g., 1850, but on the first year, e.g., 1851. I think > > that the pattern has continued. So there MAY be a Canadian census for > 1931. > > IF so and IF it is available and IF Robert H Pate was in Canada and IF he > > was enumerated, you MAY be able to trace him. > > > > Do you know if he continued working at farming or related work? > > > > Joel > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net> > > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:55 PM > > Subject: [PATE] My Grandfather > > > > > > > I posted this information a couple of years ago and have exhausted most > of > > the ways to locate him. Jinks has looked a few times and thought it > would > > be good to re-visit, maybe someone can help now. > > > > > > My grandfather Robert Harvey Pate was b.12-22-1876 in Wv. He married > > Gillie Paul, his father was Jabe B.L. Pate b. 3-3-1847, in Va., his > mother > > was Martha Perkins b. 1848-1850. > > > Robert and Gillie had 11 children. About 1930 he left his family and > his > > farm to find work. Some older aunts and uncles indicated that he might > have > > called from Kansas or Missouri (Kansas City). There was also a rumor that > > he had called from Canada. > > > If anyone has found a Pate about that age and cannot connect him to a > > family or if their family started about 1930 or later please contact me. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > Bob Pate + rpate@bellsouth.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I really meant Kansas City, Kansas, not Illinois. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:45 AM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Re: [PATE] My Grandfather > Hi Joel - Concerning your reply of Nov. 2003. There have been so many if's > in finding my grandfather Robert H. Pate. If anyone could check records for > Kansas City Missouri, and/or Kansas City Illinois after 1930 either marriage > or death or any other type record it would really help me eliminate that > area. As to his work I just don't know what he could do since my father was > so young when he left. I do know that my father W.B. Pate and his brother > Raymond did some railroad work as laborers when they were in their teens. > Thank You for having this venue for all of us looking into our past. > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> > To: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net>; <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE] My Grandfather > > > > Bob: > > Robert H Pate age 54 and family were enumerated in Curry, Putnam Co West > > Virginia in the 1930 census. The enumeration was made 19 Apr 1930. > > Citation: Enumeration District 40-5, sheet 7B, Curry Twsp, site 128/128. > > I'd say that he was in Curry, WV for at least the first quarter of 1930. > > His occupation was listed as Farmer, apparently self employed on a truck > > farm. > > > > Here is a wild lead for you- > > The English and Canadians had decennial censuses, BUT they made them, not > on > > the decade year, e.g., 1850, but on the first year, e.g., 1851. I think > > that the pattern has continued. So there MAY be a Canadian census for > 1931. > > IF so and IF it is available and IF Robert H Pate was in Canada and IF he > > was enumerated, you MAY be able to trace him. > > > > Do you know if he continued working at farming or related work? > > > > Joel > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net> > > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:55 PM > > Subject: [PATE] My Grandfather > > > > > > > I posted this information a couple of years ago and have exhausted most > of > > the ways to locate him. Jinks has looked a few times and thought it > would > > be good to re-visit, maybe someone can help now. > > > > > > My grandfather Robert Harvey Pate was b.12-22-1876 in Wv. He married > > Gillie Paul, his father was Jabe B.L. Pate b. 3-3-1847, in Va., his > mother > > was Martha Perkins b. 1848-1850. > > > Robert and Gillie had 11 children. About 1930 he left his family and > his > > farm to find work. Some older aunts and uncles indicated that he might > have > > called from Kansas or Missouri (Kansas City). There was also a rumor that > > he had called from Canada. > > > If anyone has found a Pate about that age and cannot connect him to a > > family or if their family started about 1930 or later please contact me. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > Bob Pate + rpate@bellsouth.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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What did your W.B. Pate stand for? My grandfather was W. B. Pate, William Bruin Pate. He was called Uncle Billy. He lived in Arkansas. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pate [mailto:rpate@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:46 AM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Re: [PATE] My Grandfather Hi Joel - Concerning your reply of Nov. 2003. There have been so many if's in finding my grandfather Robert H. Pate. If anyone could check records for Kansas City Missouri, and/or Kansas City Illinois after 1930 either marriage or death or any other type record it would really help me eliminate that area. As to his work I just don't know what he could do since my father was so young when he left. I do know that my father W.B. Pate and his brother Raymond did some railroad work as laborers when they were in their teens. Thank You for having this venue for all of us looking into our past. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net>; <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] My Grandfather > Bob: > Robert H Pate age 54 and family were enumerated in Curry, Putnam Co West > Virginia in the 1930 census. The enumeration was made 19 Apr 1930. > Citation: Enumeration District 40-5, sheet 7B, Curry Twsp, site 128/128. > I'd say that he was in Curry, WV for at least the first quarter of 1930. > His occupation was listed as Farmer, apparently self employed on a truck > farm. > > Here is a wild lead for you- > The English and Canadians had decennial censuses, BUT they made them, not on > the decade year, e.g., 1850, but on the first year, e.g., 1851. I think > that the pattern has continued. So there MAY be a Canadian census for 1931. > IF so and IF it is available and IF Robert H Pate was in Canada and IF he > was enumerated, you MAY be able to trace him. > > Do you know if he continued working at farming or related work? > > Joel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Pate" <rpate@bellsouth.net> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:55 PM > Subject: [PATE] My Grandfather > > > > I posted this information a couple of years ago and have exhausted most of > the ways to locate him. Jinks has looked a few times and thought it would > be good to re-visit, maybe someone can help now. > > > > My grandfather Robert Harvey Pate was b.12-22-1876 in Wv. He married > Gillie Paul, his father was Jabe B.L. Pate b. 3-3-1847, in Va., his mother > was Martha Perkins b. 1848-1850. > > Robert and Gillie had 11 children. About 1930 he left his family and his > farm to find work. Some older aunts and uncles indicated that he might have > called from Kansas or Missouri (Kansas City). There was also a rumor that > he had called from Canada. > > If anyone has found a Pate about that age and cannot connect him to a > family or if their family started about 1930 or later please contact me. > > > > Thank you > > > > Bob Pate + rpate@bellsouth.net > > > > > > > > >

Joel...thank you very much! Your work is appreciated more than you'll ever know! Alverne On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:12:09 -0400 "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> writes: > Currently there are 210 researchers subscribed of PATE-L/PATE-D. > Five (5) subscribers use Juno.com as their e-mail editor. > > If any of you receive an e-mail, with one or more attachments, from > Juno.com warning you that your service is to be disabled because of > improper use, DO NOT OPEN the attachments. DO NOT PROVIDE personal > information. > > You are urged to forward the e-mail to abuse@Juno.com and to delete > the e-mail from your e-mail "Inbox" folder and then delete the > "Deleted" file folder contents. > > > This scam is known as phishing. The bad guys are fishing for > personal information like credit card numbers, social security > numbers, addresses, passwords and the like. They can use this data > to steal your identity and good credit. > > Be cautious. > > Joel Pate > Administrator PATE-L > Tallahassee, FL > > > >