Benjamin Pate and Clarrissa Moore were my ggggrandparents. They did indeed have a daughter named Dion or Diane as sometimes spelled. also daughters Dolly, Elizabeth, Harriet and Rebecca. Diane married George Morgan. There were Evertts in this family and still are. They lived in Holmes co. fl. and Geneva co. al. Barbara

Lindy: My speculation of 1832 as the marriage date for Susan Diane Pate to James J Everett was based on the stated age ( b ca 1833) of the oldest child. It is certainly plausible that it was a second marriage for him. The use of the given name "Diane" in Pate families is a bit infrequent. Benjamin Pate of NC and Dale Co AL and his wife Clarissa Moore had a dau named Diane but the ages do not line up for her to be the Susan Diane Pate. Some of the Pate lines in Dale and Geneva Co AL have ties back to Thomas Co GA. More digging. Joel

Thanks Joel for the follow-up. I hit a brick wall on that family. Since the people supplying the data do not give the reason for their suspecting that the marriage took place c1832 in Henry Co GA, it may be misleading in looking for the Susan Diane Pate's ancestors. I had made a notation from my newspaper research that a J J Everett living in Thomas Co GA in 1853 acted as an agent in taking subscriptions for the Southern Baptist Messenger (Primitive Baptist Newspaper.) Checking the 1850 Thomas Co GA census (on a hunch that it might be the same J J Everett) p37A yields the James Everett family. James Everett 45 Farmer bGA Susan Everett 35 bNC Mary Everett 17 bFL Marshall Everett 12 bGA John Everett 10 Thomas Everett 8 Caroline Everett 3 Amanda Everett 2 Source of census: ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/thomas/census/1850/pg0029b.txt Note that Mary Everett, oldest child is born in FL. There is also the possibility that Susan is not the first wife. Thanks again, Lindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 7:59 AM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Susan Diane Pate md James J Everett > Lindy Hard this one may be of interest to you. We corresponded about this couple back in 2001 on PATE-L > > Part 1 > Following is from message # 935 from Everett forum at Genforum. Regina Markey is responding to Beverly McNease > (added notes in brackets) > Beverly, > This is my husband's direct line. > James J. Everett d 27 Oct 1858 > was married (about 1832 or earlier, probably in Henry Co GA) to > Susan Diana Pate b. 16 Nov 1815 NC (died 4 Oct 1898) > children: > Mary Ann Everett b. 17 Jun 1833 > James Everett b. 15 Aug 1836 > Marshall Nay Everett b. 6 Nov 1838 > John C. Everett b. 17 Dec 1840 > Thomas Jefferson Everett b. 3 Apr 1843 d. 2 Jan 1916 m Margaret Louvenie Fox > Caroline Columbia Everett b. 11 Sep 1845 d 23 Oct 1907 m. 18 Jan 1866 Little Berry Nix > Almadia Everett b. 11 Mar 1847 > Lemuel Pruitt Everett b. 13 Mar 1851 m. Ada Lee > Francis Marion Everett b. 8 Dec 1853 m. Anna > William Henry Pate Everett b. 11 Jan 1857 m. Mary Givens > All the children except for Francis and William (both male by the way) were born in Henry Co Ga. The last two were born in Bladen Springs, Choctaw Co. AL > (This most likely came from a Bible record.- I found nothing on a census scan in AL and GA - JMP) > > Part 2 > Seeking possible leads on the parents of Susan Diane Pate I checked the 1830 and 1840 census records for Henry Co GA. > 1830 > WILLIAM PATE-HENRY- Pg 219 > WILLIAM PATE JR-HENRY-Pg 237 >

Who were the parents of Margaret E Pate, born SC 1794, died MS 1872? She married William J Beck b 17 Jul 1792 supposedly in Morgan Co GA and died 1861 in Old Dominion MS. Morgan Co GA was created in 1805. They married in Morgan Co GA 9 Jun 1812 as Peggy Pate and William Beck Children: Thomas Pate Beck b ca 1815 in Morgan Co GA Jessie Meeks Beck (m) b 14 Mar 1822 Tuscaloosa Co AL William B Beck b 31 Aug 1823 Tuscaloosa Co AL This family was in the 1850 census of Itawamba Co MS as BECT Part of this family was in the 1860 census of Polk Co AR There is a War of 1812 record for William J Beck They apparently held property in Prentiss Co MS Margaret E "Peggy" Pate seems to fit the stream of PATE families that originated in SC, was in the Soap Creek area of Lincoln Co GA, then Morgan Co GA, then Tuscaloosa Co AL and on to Itawamba Co MS Joel

Lindy Hard this one may be of interest to you. We corresponded about this couple back in 2001 on PATE-L Part 1 Following is from message # 935 from Everett forum at Genforum. Regina Markey is responding to Beverly McNease (added notes in brackets) Beverly, This is my husband's direct line. James J. Everett d 27 Oct 1858 was married (about 1832 or earlier, probably in Henry Co GA) to Susan Diana Pate b. 16 Nov 1815 NC (died 4 Oct 1898) children: Mary Ann Everett b. 17 Jun 1833 James Everett b. 15 Aug 1836 Marshall Nay Everett b. 6 Nov 1838 John C. Everett b. 17 Dec 1840 Thomas Jefferson Everett b. 3 Apr 1843 d. 2 Jan 1916 m Margaret Louvenie Fox Caroline Columbia Everett b. 11 Sep 1845 d 23 Oct 1907 m. 18 Jan 1866 Little Berry Nix Almadia Everett b. 11 Mar 1847 Lemuel Pruitt Everett b. 13 Mar 1851 m. Ada Lee Francis Marion Everett b. 8 Dec 1853 m. Anna William Henry Pate Everett b. 11 Jan 1857 m. Mary Givens All the children except for Francis and William (both male by the way) were born in Henry Co Ga. The last two were born in Bladen Springs, Choctaw Co. AL (This most likely came from a Bible record.- I found nothing on a census scan in AL and GA - JMP) Part 2 Seeking possible leads on the parents of Susan Diane Pate I checked the 1830 and 1840 census records for Henry Co GA. 1830 WILLIAM PATE-HENRY- Pg 219 WILLIAM PATE JR-HENRY-Pg 237 1840 AARON PATE - HENRY - Pg 349 - 525 GMD SEABORN PATE - HENRY - Pg 324 - 526 GMD WILLIAM PATE - HENRY - Pg 355 - 486 GMD Part 3 William Pate (Sr) seemed like a good lead- BUT there are several deed and estate records for William Pate Sr in Henry Co GA that seem to account for all of his children and sons in law. Henry Co GA deeds (1825?) - Henry Co GA, Deed Bk C/D, p 519. Henry Co, William PATE SR, sold to Charles HULSIE for the sum of $300, 202 1/2 acres, Dist 6, Lot #20. Wit; William HARDIN Clerk; and John M FORBES. Recorded 22 Nov 1825. (No sale date.) 21 Jan 1826 - Butts Co GA, Deed Bk A, p 170. Henry Co GA, 21 Jan 1826, between Chas HULSEY and James CLAYTON for $350, one half of land in 8th Dist of Henry Co, now Butts Co, part of Lot #221 containing 101 1/4 acres bounded by Masons. Wit; James FLETCHER, William PATE, James KIMBROUGH, JP. Signed: James HULSEY. [This deed was taken from GA Genealogical Magazine, #36, p 157, Spring 1970.] 20 Nov 1844 - Henry Co GA, Deed Bk K, p 380. State of Alabama, Cherokee Co. 20 Nov 1844. Charles HULSEY and his wife Nancy HULSEY relinquished to Nidom B [Needham Bart] HULSEY, for the sum of $1000, all their rights and interest in the Estate of William PATE, late of Henry Co GA as heirs to real and personal property thereunder. Wit: Edward HUGHES, John HUGHES JP, William HUGHES. Recorded 2 Dec 1844, John GODWIN, Clk. 11 Jan 1848 - Henry Co GA, Deed Bk L, p 506. Henry Co. 11 Jan 1848. We, the lawful legatees of the Estate of William PATE, deceased, sell unto David DAILY for the sum of $150, land lying in Lot #45, Dist 6. /s/ John PATE, Aaron PATE, Loret PATE, Charles HALSEY, William SHAW, William PATE, A G HULSEY, William M HULSEY, Elizabeth HAMBRICK, E J HULSEY, H COE, J A BARR, John SWANN, and Thomas PATE. Wit: Samuel COPELAND, William RUTLEDGE, G W ROWAN, John JOHNSON. Recorded 29 May 1849. C M SPEER, Clk William Pate Sr died intestate. the legatees of his estate all signed a deed for property, Lot 45 in Henry Co GA. The heirs signing the deed were: John Pate a son married to Armarinda Camp Aaron Pate a son married to Keizah Camp Loret Pate unmarried dau or widowed DNL Charles Hulsey a SNL, in right of his wife, Nancy Pate William Shaw a SNL. in right of his wife Elizabeth Pate William Pate a son A G Hulsey perhaps a dau William M Hulsey perhaps a SNL E J Hulsey perhaps Elizabeth Jane Pate H Coe perhaps a SNL J A Barr perhaps a SNL John Swann Perhaps a SNL Thomas Pate a son married 2nd to Rutledge (see GA census and slave schedules) No mention of Everett or Averett Part 4 Back to the puzzle board. Joel

Will who ever sent in this obit post on Pate, please contact me off list. You are probably within the area code of 405, 918 or 580. Josephine Johanna Pate in a direct relative of my husband. ellen

Thanks Joel--I'll take a look. Ed > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > PATE - CANADAY > From: > "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> > Date: > Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:38:49 -0400 > To: > PATE-L@rootsweb.com > > >ED: >There is another Pate-Canaday link. Go to the Pate venue at GenForum and "jump" to message 2475. >Read up and down the string. This link may take you there. >http://genforum.genealogy.com/pate/messages/2475.html > >The Pate family involved is out of GA via Tuscaloosa/Pickens AL >Joel > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheridan" <kssooners@sbcglobal.net> To: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:13 AM Subject: Pate obit > from the DAILY OKLAHOMAN, Thursday, 21 October 2004: > > Bessie Irene Pate > Bessie Irene, 84, was born in Enid, OK to Alvin and Xina Wagner. She moved to OKC and graduated > from Capitol Hill H.S. in 1937. She later married Raymond L. Pate. A marriage that would last 65 > years. She is survived by her husband, Raymond; 2 children, a daughter, Donna Boyers and her > husband Jim, a son, Raymond Pate, Jr. and his wife Kathleen. She is also survived by 5 > grandchildren and 5 great grandchildren. Bessie attended the Fairview congregation of Jehovah's > Witnesses. She was dedicated and baptized in 1971 and served her God faithfully until her death. > Graveside services will be held 10:00 AM Thursday at Resthaven Memory Gardens. > > ===== > >

ED: There is another Pate-Canaday link. Go to the Pate venue at GenForum and "jump" to message 2475. Read up and down the string. This link may take you there. http://genforum.genealogy.com/pate/messages/2475.html The Pate family involved is out of GA via Tuscaloosa/Pickens AL Joel

CSWR---Thanks for that tidbit--don't suppose your CANADAY family shows any links to LINDSEYs or PATEs does it? Do appreciate the info--gives me a great lead! Thanks Ed > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Canaday PATE, Pickens Co. AL 1900 > From: > cswr <cswr@earthlink.net> > Date: > Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:47:46 -0700 > To: > PATE-L@rootsweb.com > > > Ed...this may be of interest to you: > > http://www.billputman.com/THE%20CANADAY%20FAMILY.htm > > Our Canaday Family most likely were Irish Quakers who came to America > to be able to practice their religion in a new country without > persecution. If they weren't Quakers back in Ireland, they soon became > so here in America. The Irish spelling of the name could have been > either Canaday or Kennedey, both pronounced about the same. > ========== > Ed-Janis wrote: > >> There is a Canaday PATE living in Pickens Co. AL (Raleigh PO) during >> the 1900 census. Can anyone identify his parents or which line he >> descends from? It's interesting to me because the LINDSEY family >> (James Franklin LINDSEY) had a son named Canaday...very unusual name. >> Any ideas where the name Canaday comes from? >> >> Thanks, >> Ed Waller >> >> >> >> >

Thanks Joel and Jinks--that's great info to start! Appreciate the help! Ed > > > > > > >Ed: >Welcome. I think that Canaday Pate was born after the 1860 census of >Tuscaloosa Co AL. He was enumerated in the 1870 census of Tuscaloosa Co AL >as "Keneda" in the household of Charles R Pate, page 273, Sipsey Twsp, site >34/36. He appears as "Kenedy" in the 1880 census of Tuscaloosa Co AL in the >household of (Charles) Raburn Pate, page 622, Enum Dist 156, sheet 9, >Tuscaloosa, site 75/76. C. A. Pate married Ida Bellew Elledge 15 Oct 1886 >in Pickens Co AL. See Pickens Marriage records Book B, Page 357. I would >surmise that he died between 1902 and 1910. His widow and family were >enumerated in the 1910 census of Tuscaloosa Co AL, Enum Dist 155, sheet 15, >Precinct 16, site 52/53. His ninth and last child, Dolly Pate, b 23 Jul >1903, was listed in the enumeration. I would think that he was alive during >the first half of 1902. Canaday and Ida B Pate had son named Murray R. >(perhaps Raeburn) Pate. Murray R Pate was enumerated in the 1930 census of >Tuscaloosa. He had a 10 year old son named Charles R Pate. I would >conclude that Canaday A. Pate was the son of Charles Raeburn Pate and Mary >"Polly" Shirley. Where the name Canaday came from is unknown. It is, no >doubt, a surname. Perhaps it comes from the Shirley line. I believe that >Ida B Pate died 16 Jan 1943 in Pickens Co AL- AL Death Certificate Index. >My research on Pate graves in Tuscaloosa, Pickens and Walker Co AL >continues. >Joel >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ed-Janis" <ed-Janis@comcast.net> >To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 10:54 PM >Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Canaday PATE, Pickens Co. AL 1900 > > > > >>There is a Canaday PATE living in Pickens Co. AL (Raleigh PO) during the >>1900 census. Can anyone identify his parents or which line he descends >>from? It's interesting to me because the LINDSEY family (James Franklin >>LINDSEY) had a son named Canaday...very unusual name. Any ideas where >>the name Canaday comes from? >> >>Thanks, >>Ed Waller >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] PATEs of Washington Co., Illinois > From: > "lunar@ipa.net" <lunar@ipa.net> > Date: > Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:24:58 -0500 > To: > PATE-L@rootsweb.com > > > I don't see a connection at this point, but who knows? > > bruce.mckown@att.net wrote: > >> Also look in Union County Illinois as there maybe a connection there >> for you. I am searching for Johanna Pate (born 15 Sep 1856, Union >> County, IL) and her brother, William B. Pate (born abt 1851, Union >> Co, ILL and the B. in his name may be for the name Bissell and they >> were both born in Union County, ILL. The best I have found for them >> so far has been their father was Joseph Pate and this really makes >> sense since I have found Johanna in several place where her name was >> Josephine which indicates she could have been named after her >> father. It seems that the mother of these two had at least three >> husbands and their father also had a couple of wives. Live goes on >> but searching becomes more difficult doesn't it. ellen >> The name Bissell I found in some papers that his sisters' >> granddaughter left. >> >> > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Canaday PATE, Pickens Co. AL 1900 > From: > Jinks Lee <jinksp@juno.com> > Date: > Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:30:11 -0500 > To: > PATE-L@rootsweb.com > > >Ed & Joel - an interesting note I found on this Canady/Canedy >Pate is from the book "Pickens Co, AL Cemetery Records" >by the Pickens Co Gen Society > >Pate Town/Nebo Cemetery, Gordo, AL >John Pate, b. 30 Nov 1852, d. 6 Feb 1906 >Killed by his brother,Can Pate, in dispute over land line > >Walter G Pate (son of John Pate-1852) >Pate Town/Nebo Cemetery, Gordo, AL >Walter Pate, b. 9 Mar 1885, d. 10 Feb 1906 >s/o John & Emma Pate, shot by his Uncle, the same >time his father was shot > >Jinks > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Canaday PATE, Pickens Co. AL 1900 > From: > "lunar@ipa.net" <lunar@ipa.net> > Date: > Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:33:08 -0500 > To: > PATE-L@rootsweb.com > > > Oh my, I'll bet that was quite a sensation! There will be newspaper > articles about that. > > Jinks Lee wrote: > >> Ed & Joel - an interesting note I found on this Canady/Canedy >> Pate is from the book "Pickens Co, AL Cemetery Records" >> by the Pickens Co Gen Society >> >> Pate Town/Nebo Cemetery, Gordo, AL >> John Pate, b. 30 Nov 1852, d. 6 Feb 1906 >> Killed by his brother,Can Pate, in dispute over land line >> >> Walter G Pate (son of John Pate-1852) >> Pate Town/Nebo Cemetery, Gordo, AL >> Walter Pate, b. 9 Mar 1885, d. 10 Feb 1906 >> s/o John & Emma Pate, shot by his Uncle, the same >> time his father was shot >> >> Jinks >> >>

Ed...this may be of interest to you: http://www.billputman.com/THE%20CANADAY%20FAMILY.htm Our Canaday Family most likely were Irish Quakers who came to America to be able to practice their religion in a new country without persecution. If they weren't Quakers back in Ireland, they soon became so here in America. The Irish spelling of the name could have been either Canaday or Kennedey, both pronounced about the same. ========== Ed-Janis wrote: > There is a Canaday PATE living in Pickens Co. AL (Raleigh PO) during > the 1900 census. Can anyone identify his parents or which line he > descends from? It's interesting to me because the LINDSEY family > (James Franklin LINDSEY) had a son named Canaday...very unusual name. > Any ideas where the name Canaday comes from? > > Thanks, > Ed Waller > > > > -- Love is when you go out to eat and give somebody most of your French Fries without making them give you any of theirs. (Chrissy- age 6) `,` Carol WALTER-Robinson, NW CA Pacific Coast `,` `,` Research in Pope County, IL & Ostfriesland, Germany `,` `,`,`,`,`,` http://thefamilywalter.com/index.html ,`,`,`

Oh my, I'll bet that was quite a sensation! There will be newspaper articles about that. Jinks Lee wrote: > Ed & Joel - an interesting note I found on this Canady/Canedy > Pate is from the book "Pickens Co, AL Cemetery Records" > by the Pickens Co Gen Society > > Pate Town/Nebo Cemetery, Gordo, AL > John Pate, b. 30 Nov 1852, d. 6 Feb 1906 > Killed by his brother,Can Pate, in dispute over land line > > Walter G Pate (son of John Pate-1852) > Pate Town/Nebo Cemetery, Gordo, AL > Walter Pate, b. 9 Mar 1885, d. 10 Feb 1906 > s/o John & Emma Pate, shot by his Uncle, the same > time his father was shot > > Jinks > >

Ed & Joel - an interesting note I found on this Canady/Canedy Pate is from the book "Pickens Co, AL Cemetery Records" by the Pickens Co Gen Society Pate Town/Nebo Cemetery, Gordo, AL John Pate, b. 30 Nov 1852, d. 6 Feb 1906 Killed by his brother,Can Pate, in dispute over land line Walter G Pate (son of John Pate-1852) Pate Town/Nebo Cemetery, Gordo, AL Walter Pate, b. 9 Mar 1885, d. 10 Feb 1906 s/o John & Emma Pate, shot by his Uncle, the same time his father was shot Jinks

I don't see a connection at this point, but who knows? bruce.mckown@att.net wrote: > Also look in Union County Illinois as there maybe a connection there for you. I am searching for Johanna Pate (born 15 Sep 1856, Union County, IL) and her brother, William B. Pate (born abt 1851, Union Co, ILL and the B. in his name may be for the name Bissell and they were both born in Union County, ILL. The best I have found for them so far has been their father was Joseph Pate and this really makes sense since I have found Johanna in several place where her name was Josephine which indicates she could have been named after her father. It seems that the mother of these two had at least three husbands and their father also had a couple of wives. > Live goes on but searching becomes more difficult doesn't it. ellen > The name Bissell I found in some papers that his sisters' granddaughter left. > >

Ed: Welcome. I think that Canaday Pate was born after the 1860 census of Tuscaloosa Co AL. He was enumerated in the 1870 census of Tuscaloosa Co AL as "Keneda" in the household of Charles R Pate, page 273, Sipsey Twsp, site 34/36. He appears as "Kenedy" in the 1880 census of Tuscaloosa Co AL in the household of (Charles) Raburn Pate, page 622, Enum Dist 156, sheet 9, Tuscaloosa, site 75/76. C. A. Pate married Ida Bellew Elledge 15 Oct 1886 in Pickens Co AL. See Pickens Marriage records Book B, Page 357. I would surmise that he died between 1902 and 1910. His widow and family were enumerated in the 1910 census of Tuscaloosa Co AL, Enum Dist 155, sheet 15, Precinct 16, site 52/53. His ninth and last child, Dolly Pate, b 23 Jul 1903, was listed in the enumeration. I would think that he was alive during the first half of 1902. Canaday and Ida B Pate had son named Murray R. (perhaps Raeburn) Pate. Murray R Pate was enumerated in the 1930 census of Tuscaloosa. He had a 10 year old son named Charles R Pate. I would conclude that Canaday A. Pate was the son of Charles Raeburn Pate and Mary "Polly" Shirley. Where the name Canaday came from is unknown. It is, no doubt, a surname. Perhaps it comes from the Shirley line. I believe that Ida B Pate died 16 Jan 1943 in Pickens Co AL- AL Death Certificate Index. My research on Pate graves in Tuscaloosa, Pickens and Walker Co AL continues. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed-Janis" <ed-Janis@comcast.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 10:54 PM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Canaday PATE, Pickens Co. AL 1900 > There is a Canaday PATE living in Pickens Co. AL (Raleigh PO) during the > 1900 census. Can anyone identify his parents or which line he descends > from? It's interesting to me because the LINDSEY family (James Franklin > LINDSEY) had a son named Canaday...very unusual name. Any ideas where > the name Canaday comes from? > > Thanks, > Ed Waller > > > > >

There is a Canaday PATE living in Pickens Co. AL (Raleigh PO) during the 1900 census. Can anyone identify his parents or which line he descends from? It's interesting to me because the LINDSEY family (James Franklin LINDSEY) had a son named Canaday...very unusual name. Any ideas where the name Canaday comes from? Thanks, Ed Waller

Good evening--I'm new to the list, so wanted to 'register' my PATE connections. I am interested in the PATE line as it connects to the LINDSEY family in the Tuscaloosa area of Alabama. I know of at least 3 connections: Jesse Harrison PATE mar Lucinda LINDSEY in 1846, Tuscaloosa Co. AL; Henry Jefferson PATE mar Sebrew "Sibba" LINDSEY in 1848 in Tuscaloosa Co. AL; Roena "Polly" PATE (dau of Chas R. PATE) mar James Franklin LINDSEY cir 1875 in Tuscaloosa Co. AL. Interested in anything anyone out there wishes to share--and absolutely willing to share what I have as well. Thanks, Ed Waller

Hello Ellen and Joel . There can be several reason to substantiate a second marriage . 1. the minister might not be registered . 2. Married in wife`s town and married again in father`s town . This could be the case for you are talking 2 states . This was quite common in England and in Australia when say a parent also immigrated later . Laurie

Hadn't thought of that angle before but do know that in some states (in the past) one could get a license in one county and marry in someother county. Laws vary and change over time and we always learn new things as we continue to search. A couple of years ago we were in Iowa doing some research and couldn't find marriage records that we knew the couple married there and had always lived there. One of the clerks gave us food for thought, only a few miles into the next state and marriage license there were much less expensive then in that particular county. I have a piece of material that I found on last trip and will try to post this week. A court action on a divorce of a Pate. Everyone please keep posting on our Pate ancestors and we may be able to help fill in our gaps. ellen -------------- Original message from "Laurie Thompson" : -------------- > Hello Ellen and Joel . There can be several reason to substantiate a second > marriage . > 1. the minister might not be registered . > 2. Married in wife`s town and married again in father`s town . This could be the > case for you are talking 2 states . This was quite common in England and in > Australia when say a parent also immigrated later . Laurie >