Jeremy: I think that John Thomas Pate married Henrietta KIRKLAND in Wilcox Co GA 19 Jan 1867. The copy of the marriage license you have should give you a clue as to when and where it was issued and when the marriage ceremony was perform and by whom. I have information that indicates a John Owen(s) JIC (Judge of the Inferior Court) married them probably in Wilcox Co GA. It is entirely possible that the Clerk who issued the license recorded her surname as KIRKLING. These types of errors are why we have cousins who spell their surname as PAIT or PAYTE. I believe that Henrietta Kirkland was the daughter of Irwin Kirkland (b 16 Mar 1816-d ca 1867) and Cynthia Coleman (b 27 Sep 1816) Irwin Kirkland and Cynthia Coleman married in GA some time prior to the birth of Henrietta Kirkland in 1847. Henrietta Kirkland would have been approximately age 2 or 3 in the 1850 census of GA. Consider this household in the 1850 census of Emanuel Co GA Page 450B, Dist 28, site 94/94 [22 Aug 1850] Irvin Kirkland----------34 W/M b GA Sinthy Kirkland-------33 W/F b GA (Cynthia Coleman) Elizabeth Kirkland--10 W/F b GA Ivy Kirkland------------- 5 W/M b GA Henrietta Kirkland--- 2 W/F b GA Remer Kirkland------9m W/M b GA Also consider the 1870 census of Wilcox Co GA. If John Thomas Pate married Henrietta Kirkland on 1867 in Wilcox Co GA, they probably would have been enumerated in the 1870 census of Wilcox Co GA. Consider Page 211, House Creek Dist, site 363/360 John Pate------------22 W/M b GA 1848 Henrietta Pate-----21 W/F b GA 1849 Cinthia Pate--------- 2 W/F b GA 1868 In that era it was customary to name the first born daughter for the maternal grandmother. Cynthia Jane Pate b ca 1868 was named for her maternal grandmother, Cynthia Coleman. Researchers have surveyed cemeteries in Wilcox Co GA and have published the findings of that survey, in book form and on the Internet. Consider this entry from the survey of graves in the Oklahoma Baptist Church Cemetery in Wilcox Co GA- John Thomas Pate----22 Jan 1847-24 Feb 1924 Henrietta Pate-----------18 Jun 1847- 7 Jun 1906 I believe these dates to be an accurate representation of what was cut into the gravestones. I think that, if you research further, you will find that- Cynthia Jane Pate b 22 Apr 1868 d 11 Jul 1934 married 27 Jul 1883 in Dooly Co GA to Daniel Warren Spires b 30 Jul 1864 d 12 Feb 1939. Joel

Jeremy: Suggest that you read THE AMERICAN GENOLOGY OF THE PATE FAMILY by John Ben Pate. Find the paragraph that begins- "John Pate, son of Jacob Pate and brother to Rev. William Pate, was born in Gloucester County, Virginia, or Newbern, N. C., about 1760." In the booklet John Ben Pate lists the alleged children of Jacob Pate and his wife Zillah Broach. Among them were Rev William Pate allegedly born about 1750 and the above referenced John Pate born about 1760. It is important to know and understand that JACOB PATE DIED IN SURRY CO VA IN 1752. His Last Will and Testament was made 15 Jun 1752 and was filed for probate by his Executrix and Executor " my dear and loving wife and my trusty friend William Clinch " in Surry Co VA on 21 Nov 1752. Zillah Pate and William Clinch are named in the probate filing. You may obtain a certified copy of this LWT and probate filing from the Clerk of Court in Surry Co VA. The document is recorded in Will and Deed Book 9, Pages 810-811. Jacob Pate was NOT the father of John Pate born about 1760 as asserted in the booklet written by John Ben Pate. John Pate b about 1760 was NOT a brother of Rev William Pate. Most evidence points to Rev William Pate being born in NC 1770-1774, much too late for him to have been a Revolutionary War Soldier. I can not make a reasonable conclusion that there is a collateral relationship between Rev William Pate and John Pate b about 1760. None the less, the John Ben Pate booklet does contain some very useful information about the Pate family of Washington Co., GA. Your research would be better served if you focused on the descendants of Redding Pate 26 Apr 1786-28 Sep 1838. I would submit that Major John Haynes Pate (2 Nov 1831-17 Mar 1888) and Lieutenant Colonel John Hugh Pate are one and the same individuals. Major John Haynes Pate did receive a brevet promotion to Lieutenant Colonel. His service cards reflect- Company K, 49th Georgia Infantry Regiment, ANV, aka Pulaski Grays, recruited from Pulaski County GA. He enlisted as 2nd Lieutenant 4 Mar 1862, was elected 1st Lieutenant 22 Mar 1862, was elected Captain 27 Jun 1862, was elected Major 28 Jun 1863, and resigned 23 Feb 1864. John Haynes Pate did have a brother named Redding Hamilton Pate (Sr) (Jun 1834-Mar 1896). He was a Physician. His service record reflects- Staff and Company F, 5th Regiment, State Guards. Also Staff and Company F and Company K, 49th Georgia Infantry Regiment, Pulaski Grays, Pulaski County. Enlisted as Private Company K, 49th Infantry Regiment, 1 May 1862, appointed Asst. Surgeon 16 May 1862, resigned 16 July 1862. Recommended for appointment as Asst. Surgeon, 5th Regiment, Georgia Reserves. Appears on Register of Medical Purveyors Office at Macon, 10 Oct 1862 through 2 Nov 1864. Also listed as Robert H. Pate. There was a third brother, Anthony Cowart Pate (11 Apr 1836-13 Feb 1916), not named in your listing. His service record reflects- Company E, 5th Georgia Regiment, State Guards, Reserves. 1st Lieutenant. I have no dates. Anthony Cowart Pate was an attorney and later a judge. I would be reluctant to assert a claim of lineal or collateral relationship between John Haynes Pate, Redding Hamilton Pate, Anthony Cowart Pate and the descendants of Rev William Pate. Do they have a common ancestor? Perhaps. Can you provide reliable evidence as to that common ancestor? I can not. In my view the assertion of John Ben Pate that these Pates lines descend from Jacob Pate is fundamentally flawed and is erroneous. Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Utt" <jeremy_utt@hotmail.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:31 PM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] FW: Roster of Field, Staff and Band of the 49th Reg. Ga. Vol. Inf. ANV > Hi, > > Does anyone know anything about the genealogy of any of these Confederate > soldiers and/or army staff? A friend sent me these names: > > Pate, John Hugh - Lieutenant Colonel. > > Pate, John Haynes-Major. > > Pate, Redding Hamilton - Assistant Surgeon. > > These men were from Georgia (please see the subject line), and I believe > that I could have a collateral relationship to them. I am trying to find a > qualifying ancestor for the Military Order of the Stars and Bars (MOS&B), > and I need a relative (lineal or collateral). I know that a number of Pates > served in the War. > > Jeremy Utt > > > >

Hi, Does anyone know anything about the genealogy of any of these Confederate soldiers and/or army staff? A friend sent me these names: Pate, John Hugh - Lieutenant Colonel. Pate, John Haynes-Major. Pate, Redding Hamilton - Assistant Surgeon. These men were from Georgia (please see the subject line), and I believe that I could have a collateral relationship to them. I am trying to find a qualifying ancestor for the Military Order of the Stars and Bars (MOS&B), and I need a relative (lineal or collateral). I know that a number of Pates served in the War. Jeremy Utt

Joel, I received an envelope yesterday from a judge's office in Dooly Co., GA. Inside the envelope was a certified copy of the marriage record for a John Pate and a Henrietta "Kirkling". Unfortunately, the copy was very unclear, and the judge's office advised me to write to the Georgia State Library/Archives (whatever the name is). The date of the marriage seemed to be November 1864 (not the 1867 date that I had expected) . . . Does any of what I have told you ring a bell? Could Henrietta Kirkling have been Henrietta Kirkland? Are you familiar with the surname Kirkling (in Georgia)? Could the spelling possibly be a mistake? Jeremy Utt

I'm glad I could contribute something. Seems to me I do remember hearing my in-laws say something about a meat market. I did know that Uncle Jim and Aunt Cassie cared for their mother after their father died. Do you have anything more on Georgia Ann Redd? How did you know about her being born in FL? We have nothing additional on her. Thanks again. Diana -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate [mailto:patej@nettally.com] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 3:03 PM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] The unmeshing of Maxie Pate Diana: Thanks for the added information on your Maxie Pate. I have had them all meshed together and tangled up. Your information helped me sort them out - 1. MAXIE PATE Sr md CATHERINE W HOLT in PULASKI Co 10 OCT 1833 HE was adopted son of Rev.William Pate and Temperance Parkerson Pate HE b 1 OCT 1807 d 1 APR 1872 She b 4 JUL 1817 d 8 JAN 1888. 2 MAXIE PATE JR md MARY PHILYAW in (COUNTY) (DATE 1876) He was son of Maxie Pate Sr and Catherine W Holt Pate He b 24 Mar 1856 d 19 Jun 1932 She b 13 Nov 1860, d 15 SEP 1933. 3 MAXIE PATE md ALMA RIDDLES in WORTH 22 MAR 1903 [Bk 4W, Pg 79] He was son of Johnathan P Pate and Georgia Anne Redd and grand s/o Maxie Pate Sr and Catherine W Holt HE b 5 JAN 1881 d 23 AUG 1956 SHE b 21 APR 1882, d 8 JUN 1949. Diana Georgia Ann Redd was probably born in Walton Co FL and was visiting family in Pulaski Co GA when she met Johnathan P Pate. Georgia Ann Redd Pate and her son James D Pate and her dau Cassie Cornelia Pate had a meat market in Tifton GA per the 1910 and 1920 census. All three of them, Georgia Ann Redd Pate, James D Pate and Cassie C Pate were enumerated in a household in the Cristobal District, Panama Canal Zone, in 1930. Joel

Jeremy: Following is a summary of what I have for the John Thomas Pate who married Henrietta Kirkland Name: John Thomas PATE Sex: Male Father: James David PATE (29 Jan 1817 - 28 Aug 1865) Mother: Mary Jane (Jincy) MOORE (12 Oct 1825 - 28 Apr 1887) Individual Facts Birth 22 Jan 1847 DOOLY CO. GA Census 1870 (age 23) Wilcox Co GA Census 1880 (age 33) Dooly Co GA Census 1900 (age 53) Dooly Co GA Death 24 Feb 1924 (age 77) GA Burial Oklahoma Cemetery, Wilcox Co., GA Marriages/Children 1. Henrietta KIRKLAND Marriage 19 Jan 1867 (age 19) DOOLY CO. GA Children Lee PATE ( - ) Cynthia Jane PATE (1868 - ) Elijah T PATE (14 Jul 1870 - 24 Feb 1941) William Bennett (Sheep) PATE (2 Dec 1872 - 5 Jan 1960) James B PATE (10 Sep 1874 - ) John PATE (abt 1875 - ) Notes (Individual) Census (1870): Page 211, House Creek, site 363/360 Census (1880): Page 641, ED 90, sheet 26, site 242/243 Census (1900): Enum Dist 91, sheet 27, 732 GMD, site 370/375 I have one note that indicates that J T Pate and Henrietta Kirkland were married in 1867 (no other date) in Wilcox Co GA by James Owen, JIC ( Judge, Inferior Court) It is possible that they drew a license in Dooly Co and married in Wilcox or visa versa. Both are buried in Oklahoma Cemetery in Wilcox Co GA (unconfirmed) I have no source or confirming documentation for the following Oklahoma Baptist Church Cemetery John Thomas Pate------------22 Jan 1847-24 Feb 1924 [Henrietta Thompson Pate---18 Jun 1847-7 Jun 1906] May be in another county James D Pate------------------29 Jan 1817-28 Aug 1865 Jane Moore Pate-------------12 Oct 1825-28 Apr 1877 I have nothing in the way of a CSA records for this John Thomas Pate if he was in fact born 22 Jan 1847 he was on the "cusp" or edge of the envelope age wise to have served in the early stages of the war. I checked the PATE-L archives (all postings to Pate-L are retained in a searchable archive) and found one mention of a letter from Jane (Jincy) Moore Pate to her husband, James D Pate, being sold on E-Bay around Oct 2002. Some one captured the content of the letter, but I have been unable to trace the letter or the sale of it further. Perhaps the correspondence was posted to the GenWeb archives. There MAY have been other letters between James D Pate and his wife Jane Jincy Moore Pate, but I have not been able to identify other correspondence. In terms of keeping up with all of the findings and information on your family tree, you may find it useful to obtain and install, on your computer, some type of family tree software. You may buy such software, but for beginners I would recommend PAF (Personal Ancestry File). The PAF is the 'granddaddy' of most family tree software. It was developed by the LDS and is a FREE down load from LDS. See following instructions- 1. Go here- http://www.lds.org/welcome 2. In the left frame, click on the words "Family History" 3. On the "Welcome" link bar, click on the "Order/Download - Products" link 4. On the next page, click on the "Software Downloads-Free" link 5. Click on the "Download" button next to item 77034999 Personal Ancestral File 5.2.18.0 0 - Multi-language (9.7 MB). 6. Follow the instructions as they appear on you computer screen. You will probably be instructed to turn you computer off and back on again. Do it and you have PAF installed and ready. These are old instructions and Version numbers may have been updated and changed, but the basics are still the same. Joel

Janet, Thank you for the FHC information. I will see what I can find out. It is interesting that you asked me about John Thomas Pate. I had not even considered the possibility that he might have been a Confederate soldier! He probably was of "a prime age" (as you suggest) for military service. I can imagine what life must have been like in Georgia in 1864 as General Sherman was on his infamous path of destruction during the so-called "March to the Sea". No wonder why Jane was so worried. Any information about John Thomas Pate's military service (if he served) would be appreciated. I believe that somebody sent me a transcription of a letter, but I can not remember at the moment. I have been getting so many "Pate genealogy" emails (I'm NOT complaining) that I have not been able to sort through everything yet. Do you have access to the "war letters" that you mentioned, or at least copies of the letters? I really want to get copies of any of the letters that I can. By the way, I have been informed that John Thomas Pate and Henrietta Kirkland married in 1867 in either Wilcox or Dooly Co., GA. I am investing this myself to see what is true. I have mailed "research requests" to the Dooly and Wilcox courthouses . . . Thanks for all of your help! Jeremy Utt

Diana: Thanks for the added information on your Maxie Pate. I have had them all meshed together and tangled up. Your information helped me sort them out - 1. MAXIE PATE Sr md CATHERINE W HOLT in PULASKI Co 10 OCT 1833 HE was adopted son of Rev.William Pate and Temperance Parkerson Pate HE b 1 OCT 1807 d 1 APR 1872 She b 4 JUL 1817 d 8 JAN 1888. 2 MAXIE PATE JR md MARY PHILYAW in (COUNTY) (DATE 1876) He was son of Maxie Pate Sr and Catherine W Holt Pate He b 24 Mar 1856 d 19 Jun 1932 She b 13 Nov 1860, d 15 SEP 1933. 3 MAXIE PATE md ALMA RIDDLES in WORTH 22 MAR 1903 [Bk 4W, Pg 79] He was son of Johnathan P Pate and Georgia Anne Redd and grand s/o Maxie Pate Sr and Catherine W Holt HE b 5 JAN 1881 d 23 AUG 1956 SHE b 21 APR 1882, d 8 JUN 1949. Diana Georgia Ann Redd was probably born in Walton Co FL and was visiting family in Pulaski Co GA when she met Johnathan P Pate. Georgia Ann Redd Pate and her son James D Pate and her dau Cassie Cornelia Pate had a meat market in Tifton GA per the 1910 and 1920 census. All three of them, Georgia Ann Redd Pate, James D Pate and Cassie C Pate were enumerated in a household in the Cristobal District, Panama Canal Zone, in 1930. Joel

Sorry Laurie you are not forgotten. Haven't got records out - but will do so in next fortnight since am now on vacation Regards Jan R -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Thompson [mailto:lthompson@terrafirma.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2004 11:50 AM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Laurie Thompson Jan . Looking back at old emails I came across yours . Did you ever check your records at home . I am also delighted to have another Pate researcher in Australia . His death certificate states 4 years in Launceston before Victoria . There several Pates living there in 1859 . I have also come to the conclusion that Edinburgh was not their family abode , could be just visiting . Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Robergé" <janr@plc.nsw.edu.au> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 11:23 AM Subject: RE: [PATE GENEALOGY] Laurie Thompson > Hi Laurie - I am from Australia and am a Pate by birth.Am ecstatic > that someone in the Pate line has finally tagged Australia because the > US material whilst incredibly interesting isn't relevant to me - > ancestry wise, though I in fact married an American from Virginia. > > I do not have all my records to hand at this exact moment - they are > at home (I am at work) My grandfather John William Pate came out from > England in 1890's when a baby.His father was Richard Pate - a labourer > - also English and his mother was English. I realise this is not your > John of course, but I do know Edinburgh was in my family geographical > tree. > > There were really only a couple of entry points to Australia in the > 1850's -1900. The present southern state of Victoria (capital > Melbourne) and the huge one - bigger than Texas - above it (New South Wales ... > Sydney is its capital)were originally one area till divided legally. > > Melbourne was a key entry point into the whole area - some ships came > via Perth the capital of the huge state of Western Australia)that runs > the entire north-south length of the whole western side of our > country. The Victorian goldfields were a major drawcard during the > 1850-60's with some extremely large nuggets found there. Therefore > Melbourne was a really busy port with goldiggers in all shapes and sizes. > > It was not at all unusual for people to enter through Melbourne but > journey up fairly quickly to the Sydney area.I can grab info on > descendants this week for you if you like. Would be delighted to help > you in any way I can from this end. > > Jan Roberg'e (nee Janette Lorraine Pate) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurie Thompson [mailto:lthompson@terrafirma.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2004 8:46 AM > To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] A request > > Hi all Pate Researchers . I am stuck on John Pate who was in Melbourne > Australia early 1860`s . His Victorian ( a state of Australia ) > marriage certificate dated 1863 stated he was born Edinburgh c1840 to > George , a Miller, and Bessie McKerrow or McAra . As there was several > questionable statements on the marriage certificate some of this > information could be suspect . I would like to correspond with > descendants or anyone who might help and ascertain ancestors .Family > stories are that he came out on a ship as an engineer so I assume a Steamship . > Thanks for reading this plea for help . Laurie > > >

Joel, You mentioned some war-time correspondence between Mary Jane "Jincy" Moore Pate and her husband, James David Pate. Point Jeremy in the direction of that correspondence. They can supplement and occassionally substitute for lost marriage certificates, etc. The United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC) has accepted copies of 'time-sensative' documents as proof of marriage or birth. <http://www.hqudc.org/> The National Archives has Compiled Service Records for all Confederate States. (If the URL wraps to two lines copy and paste both into the address bar) <http://www.archives.gov/research_room/alic/reference_desk/military_resources/civil_war_service_records_pamphlets.html> Good luck Jeremy - I am sure your mother will enjoy being a member of UDC. Please respect the privacy of other people; do not submit information on living individuals without their permission.

Jan . Looking back at old emails I came across yours . Did you ever check your records at home . I am also delighted to have another Pate researcher in Australia . His death certificate states 4 years in Launceston before Victoria . There several Pates living there in 1859 . I have also come to the conclusion that Edinburgh was not their family abode , could be just visiting . Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Robergé" <janr@plc.nsw.edu.au> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 11:23 AM Subject: RE: [PATE GENEALOGY] Laurie Thompson > Hi Laurie - I am from Australia and am a Pate by birth.Am ecstatic that > someone in the Pate line has finally tagged Australia because the US > material whilst incredibly interesting isn't relevant to me - ancestry > wise, though I in fact married an American from Virginia. > > I do not have all my records to hand at this exact moment - they are at > home (I am at work) > My grandfather John William Pate came out from England in 1890's when a > baby.His father was Richard Pate - a labourer - also English and his > mother was English. I realise this is not your John of course, but I do > know Edinburgh was in my family geographical tree. > > There were really only a couple of entry points to Australia in the > 1850's -1900. The present southern state of Victoria (capital Melbourne) > and the huge one - bigger than Texas - above it (New South Wales ... > Sydney is its capital)were originally one area till divided legally. > > Melbourne was a key entry point into the whole area - some ships came via > Perth the capital of the huge state of Western Australia)that runs the > entire north-south length of the whole western side of our country. The > Victorian goldfields were a major drawcard during the 1850-60's with some > extremely large nuggets found there. Therefore Melbourne was a really busy > port with goldiggers in all shapes and sizes. > > It was not at all unusual for people to enter through Melbourne but > journey up fairly quickly to the Sydney area.I can grab info on > descendants this week for you if you like. Would be delighted to help you > in any way I can from this end. > > Jan Roberg'e (nee Janette Lorraine Pate) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurie Thompson [mailto:lthompson@terrafirma.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2004 8:46 AM > To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] A request > > Hi all Pate Researchers . I am stuck on John Pate who was in Melbourne > Australia early 1860`s . His Victorian ( a state of Australia ) marriage > certificate dated 1863 stated he was born Edinburgh c1840 to George , a > Miller, and Bessie McKerrow or McAra . As there was several questionable > statements on the marriage certificate some of this information could be > suspect . I would like to correspond with descendants or anyone who might > help and ascertain ancestors .Family stories are that he came out on a > ship as an engineer so I assume a Steamship . > Thanks for reading this plea for help . Laurie > > >

Thanks for the Information. YES this is our family and I have been to all of the gravesites. However, I did not have the marriage date. Thanks again for your trouble. I can clear up part of this for you. Our Maxie Pate was the son of Jonathan Pate and Georgia Anne Redd of Pulaski Co. It is and has been confusing for me because there were several other Maxie Pates before ours. Jonathan Pate was the son of MAXIE Pate and Catherine Holt (I believe Pulaski Co). That Maxie was the son of Rev. William Pate of Glouchester, VA and Tempty Parkerson who I believe were the 1st in Georgia. He is supposed to be buried at Warwick in Worth Co. We have not been able to Correctly connect Rev. William Pate to THOMAS, John, and SIR Richard who first came from England. I can send you the file that I have if you will send me your direct email. James D. (Daniel) Pate DOB 7/18/1891 and Cassie C.(Cornelia) Pate DOB 5/26/1893 were both SIBLINGS of Maxie Pate DOB 1/5/1881. Neither of them ever married nor had any children. They both went to Panama as young people and worked for the US Government at the Panama Canal until in the 1960's when they retired. Uncle "Jim" was a Chef for a lot of government dignitaries. Arthur A. Pate DOB 1/7/1905 was the 1st child of Maxie Pate and Alma Riddle Pate. He and Rufus Pate DOB 7/6/1909 were siblings. Rufus was my father-in-law and his wife was Vesta Westberry Pate. She is buried Next to Rufus. Maxie Pate and Alma Riddle Pate had the following 8 children: Arthur A. Married Lolita Brown of Missouri One Daughter - Virginia Pate Hiatt Died last year in IL Minnie Lee Married Addis Howard of Turner Co. 5/6 Children Died in 1970's Buried in Turner Co Richard Married Ada Jefferies in Ben Hill County 2 Sons & 1 Daughter Died abt 1990 buried next to parents in Evergreen Rufus Married Vesta Malinda Westberry of Wayne County 1 Son (Wayne Daniel - My husband) Frank Married Marie Freeman of Ben Hill Co 2 Daughters Died in 2002 and buried in St. Augustine FL Florence Virginia Married Lander Hornsby of Alabama NO Children Died in Aug., 2003 buried with husband at Evergreen JAMES ENSIGN Born 10/1919 Married 2 times 2 Daughters by 1st wife and 1 by last Died 2002/2003 buried in Tifton Nettie Mae Married Lloyd Brown of Ben Hill County. 2 Sons & 1 Daughter - Still Living Aunt Net is the only one still living. I have already gotten all of the information she could give me which was not a lot. James Hiatt, Jr. was the 1st child of Virginia Pate Hiatt and her husband, James Hiatt, SR. (of Peoria IL) He died of polio as a small child. He is the grandson of Arthur A. Pate. Virginia and her husband always lived in IL and had 5 additional children. Maxie Pate moved from Turner Co. to Ben Hill County in the late 1920's. Both he and his Wife Alma Riddle are buried at Evergreen in Ben Hill Co. along with their son Richard. It is just in a separate plot. Our "Maxie" had some additional siblings. This is all that Aunt Net could tell me: John, Emma Jean, and a William (Bill). Hope this helps. Diana Pate Fitztgerald -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate [mailto:patej@nettally.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 6:47 AM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] James Daniel Pate-Turner Co GA Diana: I have some records for the Evergreen Cemetery in Ben Hill Co GA that seem to fit your line. There MAY be errors in the transcription of the dates but what I have- two double graves - MAXIE PATE --------05 Jan 1881-23 Aug 1956 ALMA PATE ---------21 Apr 1882-08 Jun 1949 JAMES D. PATE ---18 Jul 1891-18 Nov 1961 CASSIE C. PATE --26 May-1893-[19 Apr 1979] also have ARTHUR A PATE--07 Jun 1905-20 Nov 1970 RUFUS PATE ------06 Jul 1909 22 Aug 1973 JAMES E HIATT JR --30 Jun 1952-15 Aug 1954 perhaps son of VIRGINIA PATE HIATT [19 Sep 1911-17 Apr 1995]SSDI These dates are consistent with dates found in the GA death certificate index and the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Given the fact that these graves seem to be in a family plot, I concluded that James D Pate 1891-1961 and Arthur A Pate 1905-1970 were sons of Maxie Pate 1881-1945 and Alma (?) Pate 1882-1849. Rufus Pate 1909-1973 also perhaps is a son of Maxie and Alma. I have a marriage record that seems to fit- [Maxie Pate md Alma Riddles 22 Mar 1903 Worth Co] and three census records that also seem to fit- 1910 Turner Co Enum Dist 173, sheet 14, Amboy, site 145/145 Maxie Pate-----29 W/M Head Md Farmer--GA/GA/GA 1881 Alma Pate------28 W/F Wife Md 7y 3/3-------GA/GA/GA 1882 Arthur Pate------6 W/M Son Sgl-----------------GA/GA/GA 1904 Minnie L Pate- 3 W/F Dau Sgl------------------GA/GA/GA 1907 Rufus Pate----8m W/M Son Sgl-----------------GA/GA/GA 1909 Married about 1903. 3 live births, 3 children still living Year of birth projected from stated age 1920 Turner Co Enum Dist 137, sheet 7A, Ashburn, 1624 GMD, site 151/162 Max Pate-------37 W/M Head ----------GA/US/US 1883 Alma Pate------36 W/F Wife------------GA/GA/GA 1884 Arthur Pate----15 W/M Son-------------GA/GA/GA 1905 Minnie Pate---13 W/F Dau--------------GA/GA/GA 1907 Rufus Pate-----10 W/M Son-------------GA/GA/GA 1910 Richard Pate--- 7 W/M Son------------GA/GA/GA 1913 Florence Pate- 5 W/F Dau--------------GA/GA/GA 1915 Frank Pate------ 3 W/M SON 3y 3m--GA/GA/GA 1917 Year of birth projected from stated age. 1930 Ben Hill Co Enum Dist 9-6, sheet 5a, Fitzgerald, site 85/100 Maxwell Pate---49 W/M Head Md @21 -GA/GA/GA 1881 Alma Pate--------48 W/F Wife Md @20--GA/GA/GA 1882 Florence Pate--15 W/F Dau Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1915 Frank Pate-------13 W/M Son Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1917 Jim Pate----------11 W/M Son Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1919 Nettie Pate------- 6 W/F Dau Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1924 Mary Riddles---65 W/F MNL Wd-------GA/GA/GA 1865 Maxie married at approximate age 21. Alma at approximate age 20. Mary Riddles was mother in law to Maxie (Maxwell). Maxwell is probably enumerator's take on Maxie. Going over all of this I see an error in my conclusions about James D Pate 1891-1961 being a son of Maxie and Alma Pate. Maxie Pate was clearly born about 1881. He had a son named James (Jim) whose birth appears to be about 1919 not 1891. Maxie Pate b abt 1881 married in 1903 did not have a son named James b abt 1891. The James D Pate 1891-1961 buried near Maxie Pate in Ben Hill County was not his son The Jim (James) Pate, age 11 b abt 1911, listed as a son of Maxie and Alma Pate in the 1930 census MAY PERHAPS be James Pate b 31 Aug 1918 d Apr 1986 [from SSDI]. He resided in Cordele, Crisp Co GA, at time of death. The GA Death certificate index has a James H Pate died 20 Apr 1986 in Dougherty Co GA residing in Crisp Co at time of death This appears to be James Hansel Pate b 31 Aug 1918 d 30 Apr 1986, per headstone in Arabi-Antioch cemetery in Crisp Co. James D Pate 1891-1961 bur Ben Hill Co GA near Maxie Pate 1881-1956 were not son and father. Were they perhaps brothers? I thought that the 1900 census of GA might yield some answers so I looked for a Maxie Pate b abt 1881 and did not find one. I looked for a James D Pate b abt 1891 and did not find him either. I did find three interesting households in Worth Co. Enum Dist 104, sheet 124, 1145 GMD, site 454/467 Jason M Pate (Head) b GA Aug 1858 Minnie E Pate (Wife) b GA May 1866 married for 18 years , abt 1882. I think that this is Jason Manasseh Pate Aug 1858-11 Jun 1930 who on 17 Jan 1883 in Worth Co GA married Minnie Emily Cone May 1866-11Nov 1930 Jason Manasseh Pate was a son of Maxie Pate and Kate Holt Enum Dist 10, sheet 30, 1145 GMD, site 564/577 Maxie Pate (Head) b GA Jan 1857 Mary J Pate (Wife) b GA Oct 1861 Lucy E Pate (Dau) b GA Aug 1877 I think that this is Maxie Pate Jr 24 Mar 1856-19 Jun 1932 his wife Mary Jane Philyaw 13 Nov 1860 - 15 Sep 1833 Maxie Pate (Jr) 1856-1932 was a son of Maxie Pate and Kate Holt next door at Enum Dist 10, sheet 30, 1145 GMD, site 565/578 James D Pate b GA Feb 1880 Sarah H Pate b GA Mar 1878 Eva Pate b GA Jun 1899 I think this is James Daniel Pate b Feb 1880 d ? and his wife Sarah H Simpson b Mar 1878 d ? James D Pate married Sarah H Simpson 8 Sep 1899 in Worth Co GA I think that he is James Daniel Pate son of Maxie Pate Jr and Mary Jane Philyaw. Turning back to the 1920 census of Turner Co GA we find Enum Dist 143, sheet 16A, Hobby, site 278/288 Maxie M Pate (head) b ca 1858 Mary Pate (wife) b ca 1848 Enum Dist 143, sheet 17A, Hobby, site 297/307 J Daniel Pate (head) b ca 1881 Sarah H Pate (wife) b ca 1881 Evey Pate (dau) b ca 1900 In my opinion Maxie Pate and Alma Riddles did not have a son named James Daniel Pate, but Maxie Pate Jr and Mary Philyaw did have a son named James Daniel Pate. Joel x

Diana: I have some records for the Evergreen Cemetery in Ben Hill Co GA that seem to fit your line. There MAY be errors in the transcription of the dates but what I have- two double graves - MAXIE PATE --------05 Jan 1881-23 Aug 1956 ALMA PATE ---------21 Apr 1882-08 Jun 1949 JAMES D. PATE ---18 Jul 1891-18 Nov 1961 CASSIE C. PATE --26 May-1893-[19 Apr 1979] also have ARTHUR A PATE--07 Jun 1905-20 Nov 1970 RUFUS PATE ------06 Jul 1909 22 Aug 1973 JAMES E HIATT JR --30 Jun 1952-15 Aug 1954 perhaps son of VIRGINIA PATE HIATT [19 Sep 1911-17 Apr 1995]SSDI These dates are consistent with dates found in the GA death certificate index and the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Given the fact that these graves seem to be in a family plot, I concluded that James D Pate 1891-1961 and Arthur A Pate 1905-1970 were sons of Maxie Pate 1881-1945 and Alma (?) Pate 1882-1849. Rufus Pate 1909-1973 also perhaps is a son of Maxie and Alma. I have a marriage record that seems to fit- [Maxie Pate md Alma Riddles 22 Mar 1903 Worth Co] and three census records that also seem to fit- 1910 Turner Co Enum Dist 173, sheet 14, Amboy, site 145/145 Maxie Pate-----29 W/M Head Md Farmer--GA/GA/GA 1881 Alma Pate------28 W/F Wife Md 7y 3/3-------GA/GA/GA 1882 Arthur Pate------6 W/M Son Sgl-----------------GA/GA/GA 1904 Minnie L Pate- 3 W/F Dau Sgl------------------GA/GA/GA 1907 Rufus Pate----8m W/M Son Sgl-----------------GA/GA/GA 1909 Married about 1903. 3 live births, 3 children still living Year of birth projected from stated age 1920 Turner Co Enum Dist 137, sheet 7A, Ashburn, 1624 GMD, site 151/162 Max Pate-------37 W/M Head ----------GA/US/US 1883 Alma Pate------36 W/F Wife------------GA/GA/GA 1884 Arthur Pate----15 W/M Son-------------GA/GA/GA 1905 Minnie Pate---13 W/F Dau--------------GA/GA/GA 1907 Rufus Pate-----10 W/M Son-------------GA/GA/GA 1910 Richard Pate--- 7 W/M Son------------GA/GA/GA 1913 Florence Pate- 5 W/F Dau--------------GA/GA/GA 1915 Frank Pate------ 3 W/M SON 3y 3m--GA/GA/GA 1917 Year of birth projected from stated age. 1930 Ben Hill Co Enum Dist 9-6, sheet 5a, Fitzgerald, site 85/100 Maxwell Pate---49 W/M Head Md @21 -GA/GA/GA 1881 Alma Pate--------48 W/F Wife Md @20--GA/GA/GA 1882 Florence Pate--15 W/F Dau Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1915 Frank Pate-------13 W/M Son Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1917 Jim Pate----------11 W/M Son Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1919 Nettie Pate------- 6 W/F Dau Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1924 Mary Riddles---65 W/F MNL Wd-------GA/GA/GA 1865 Maxie married at approximate age 21. Alma at approximate age 20. Mary Riddles was mother in law to Maxie (Maxwell). Maxwell is probably enumerator's take on Maxie. Going over all of this I see an error in my conclusions about James D Pate 1891-1961 being a son of Maxie and Alma Pate. Maxie Pate was clearly born about 1881. He had a son named James (Jim) whose birth appears to be about 1919 not 1891. Maxie Pate b abt 1881 married in 1903 did not have a son named James b abt 1891. The James D Pate 1891-1961 buried near Maxie Pate in Ben Hill County was not his son The Jim (James) Pate, age 11 b abt 1911, listed as a son of Maxie and Alma Pate in the 1930 census MAY PERHAPS be James Pate b 31 Aug 1918 d Apr 1986 [from SSDI]. He resided in Cordele, Crisp Co GA, at time of death. The GA Death certificate index has a James H Pate died 20 Apr 1986 in Dougherty Co GA residing in Crisp Co at time of death This appears to be James Hansel Pate b 31 Aug 1918 d 30 Apr 1986, per headstone in Arabi-Antioch cemetery in Crisp Co. James D Pate 1891-1961 bur Ben Hill Co GA near Maxie Pate 1881-1956 were not son and father. Were they perhaps brothers? I thought that the 1900 census of GA might yield some answers so I looked for a Maxie Pate b abt 1881 and did not find one. I looked for a James D Pate b abt 1891 and did not find him either. I did find three interesting households in Worth Co. Enum Dist 104, sheet 124, 1145 GMD, site 454/467 Jason M Pate (Head) b GA Aug 1858 Minnie E Pate (Wife) b GA May 1866 married for 18 years , abt 1882. I think that this is Jason Manasseh Pate Aug 1858-11 Jun 1930 who on 17 Jan 1883 in Worth Co GA married Minnie Emily Cone May 1866-11Nov 1930 Jason Manasseh Pate was a son of Maxie Pate and Kate Holt Enum Dist 10, sheet 30, 1145 GMD, site 564/577 Maxie Pate (Head) b GA Jan 1857 Mary J Pate (Wife) b GA Oct 1861 Lucy E Pate (Dau) b GA Aug 1877 I think that this is Maxie Pate Jr 24 Mar 1856-19 Jun 1932 his wife Mary Jane Philyaw 13 Nov 1860 - 15 Sep 1833 Maxie Pate (Jr) 1856-1932 was a son of Maxie Pate and Kate Holt next door at Enum Dist 10, sheet 30, 1145 GMD, site 565/578 James D Pate b GA Feb 1880 Sarah H Pate b GA Mar 1878 Eva Pate b GA Jun 1899 I think this is James Daniel Pate b Feb 1880 d ? and his wife Sarah H Simpson b Mar 1878 d ? James D Pate married Sarah H Simpson 8 Sep 1899 in Worth Co GA I think that he is James Daniel Pate son of Maxie Pate Jr and Mary Jane Philyaw. Turning again to the 1920 census of Turner Co GA we find Enum Dist 143, sheet 16A, Hobby, site 278/288 Maxie M Pate (head) b ca 1858 Mary Pate (wife) b ca 1848 Enum Dist 143, sheet 17A, Hobby, site 297/307 J Daniel Pate (head) b ca 1881 Sarah A Pate (wife) b ca 1881 Evey Pate (dau) b ca 1900 It would seem that Maxie Pate and Alma Riddles did not have a son named James Daniel Pate but Maxie Pate Jr and Mary Philyaw did. Joel

Diana: I have some records for the Evergreen Cemetery in Ben Hill Co GA that seem to fit your line. There MAY be errors in the transcription of the dates but what I have- two double graves - MAXIE PATE --------05 Jan 1881-23 Aug 1956 ALMA PATE ---------21 Apr 1882-08 Jun 1949 JAMES D. PATE ---18 Jul 1891-18 Nov 1961 CASSIE C. PATE --26 May-1893-[19 Apr 1979] also have ARTHUR A PATE--07 Jun 1905-20 Nov 1970 RUFUS PATE ------06 Jul 1909 22 Aug 1973 JAMES E HIATT JR --30 Jun 1952-15 Aug 1954 perhaps son of VIRGINIA PATE HIATT [19 Sep 1911-17 Apr 1995]SSDI These dates are consistent with dates found in the GA death certificate index and the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Given the fact that these graves seem to be in a family plot, I concluded that James D Pate 1891-1961 and Arthur A Pate 1905-1970 were sons of Maxie Pate 1881-1945 and Alma (?) Pate 1882-1849. Rufus Pate 1909-1973 also perhaps is a son of Maxie and Alma. I have a marriage record that seems to fit- [Maxie Pate md Alma Riddles 22 Mar 1903 Worth Co] and three census records that also seem to fit- 1910 Turner Co Enum Dist 173, sheet 14, Amboy, site 145/145 Maxie Pate-----29 W/M Head Md Farmer--GA/GA/GA 1881 Alma Pate------28 W/F Wife Md 7y 3/3-------GA/GA/GA 1882 Arthur Pate------6 W/M Son Sgl-----------------GA/GA/GA 1904 Minnie L Pate- 3 W/F Dau Sgl------------------GA/GA/GA 1907 Rufus Pate----8m W/M Son Sgl-----------------GA/GA/GA 1909 Married about 1903. 3 live births, 3 children still living Year of birth projected from stated age 1920 Turner Co Enum Dist 137, sheet 7A, Ashburn, 1624 GMD, site 151/162 Max Pate-------37 W/M Head ----------GA/US/US 1883 Alma Pate------36 W/F Wife------------GA/GA/GA 1884 Arthur Pate----15 W/M Son-------------GA/GA/GA 1905 Minnie Pate---13 W/F Dau--------------GA/GA/GA 1907 Rufus Pate-----10 W/M Son-------------GA/GA/GA 1910 Richard Pate--- 7 W/M Son------------GA/GA/GA 1913 Florence Pate- 5 W/F Dau--------------GA/GA/GA 1915 Frank Pate------ 3 W/M SON 3y 3m--GA/GA/GA 1917 Year of birth projected from stated age. 1930 Ben Hill Co Enum Dist 9-6, sheet 5a, Fitzgerald, site 85/100 Maxwell Pate---49 W/M Head Md @21 -GA/GA/GA 1881 Alma Pate--------48 W/F Wife Md @20--GA/GA/GA 1882 Florence Pate--15 W/F Dau Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1915 Frank Pate-------13 W/M Son Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1917 Jim Pate----------11 W/M Son Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1919 Nettie Pate------- 6 W/F Dau Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1924 Mary Riddles---65 W/F MNL Wd-------GA/GA/GA 1865 Maxie married at approximate age 21. Alma at approximate age 20. Mary Riddles was mother in law to Maxie (Maxwell). Maxwell is probably enumerator's take on Maxie. Going over all of this I see an error in my conclusions about James D Pate 1891-1961 being a son of Maxie and Alma Pate. Maxie Pate was clearly born about 1881. He had a son named James (Jim) whose birth appears to be about 1919 not 1891. Maxie Pate b abt 1881 married in 1903 did not have a son named James b abt 1891. The James D Pate 1891-1961 buried near Maxie Pate in Ben Hill County was not his son The Jim (James) Pate, age 11 b abt 1911, listed as a son of Maxie and Alma Pate in the 1930 census MAY PERHAPS be James Pate b 31 Aug 1918 d Apr 1986 [from SSDI]. He resided in Cordele, Crisp Co GA, at time of death. The GA Death certificate index has a James H Pate died 20 Apr 1986 in Dougherty Co GA residing in Crisp Co at time of death This appears to be James Hansel Pate b 31 Aug 1918 d 30 Apr 1986, per headstone in Arabi-Antioch cemetery in Crisp Co. James D Pate 1891-1961 bur Ben Hill Co GA near Maxie Pate 1881-1956 were not son and father. Were they perhaps brothers? I thought that the 1900 census of GA might yield some answers so I looked for a Maxie Pate b abt 1881 and did not find one. I looked for a James D Pate b abt 1891 and did not find him either. I did find three interesting households in Worth Co. Enum Dist 104, sheet 124, 1145 GMD, site 454/467 Jason M Pate (Head) b GA Aug 1858 Minnie E Pate (Wife) b GA May 1866 married for 18 years , abt 1882. I think that this is Jason Manasseh Pate Aug 1858-11 Jun 1930 who on 17 Jan 1883 in Worth Co GA married Minnie Emily Cone May 1866-11Nov 1930 Jason Manasseh Pate was a son of Maxie Pate and Kate Holt Enum Dist 10, sheet 30, 1145 GMD, site 564/577 Maxie Pate (Head) b GA Jan 1857 Mary J Pate (Wife) b GA Oct 1861 Lucy E Pate (Dau) b GA Aug 1877 I think that this is Maxie Pate Jr 24 Mar 1856-19 Jun 1932 his wife Mary Jane Philyaw 13 Nov 1860 - 15 Sep 1833 Maxie Pate (Jr) 1856-1932 was a son of Maxie Pate and Kate Holt next door at Enum Dist 10, sheet 30, 1145 GMD, site 565/578 James D Pate b GA Feb 1880 Sarah H Pate b GA Mar 1878 Eva Pate b GA Jun 1899 I think this is James Daniel Pate b Feb 1880 d ? and his wife Sarah H Simpson b Mar 1878 d ? James D Pate married Sarah H Simpson 8 Sep 1899 in Worth Co GA I think that he is James Daniel Pate son of Maxie Pate Jr and Mary Jane Philyaw. Turning again to the 1920 census of Turner Co GA we find Enum Dist 143, sheet 16A, Hobby, site 278/288 Maxie M Pate (head) b ca 1858 Mary Pate (wife) b ca 1848 Enum Dist 143, sheet 17A, Hobby, site 297/307 J Daniel Pate (head) b ca 1881 Sarah A Pate (wife) b ca 1881 Evey Pate (dau) b ca 1900 It would seem that Maxie Pate and Alma Riddles did not have a son named James Daniel Pate but Maxie Pate Jr and Mary Philyaw did. Joel x

Diana: I have some records for the Evergreen Cemetery in Ben Hill Co GA that seem to fit your line. There MAY be errors in the transcription of the dates but what I have- two double graves - MAXIE PATE --------05 Jan 1881-23 Aug 1956 ALMA PATE ---------21 Apr 1882-08 Jun 1949 JAMES D. PATE ---18 Jul 1891-18 Nov 1961 CASSIE C. PATE --26 May-1893-[19 Apr 1979] also have ARTHUR A PATE--07 Jun 1905-20 Nov 1970 RUFUS PATE ------06 Jul 1909 22 Aug 1973 JAMES E HIATT JR --30 Jun 1952-15 Aug 1954 perhaps son of VIRGINIA PATE HIATT [19 Sep 1911-17 Apr 1995]SSDI These dates are consistent with dates found in the GA death certificate index and the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Given the fact that these graves seem to be in a family plot, I concluded that James D Pate 1891-1961 and Arthur A Pate 1905-1970 were sons of Maxie Pate 1881-1945 and Alma (?) Pate 1882-1849. Rufus Pate 1909-1973 also perhaps is a son of Maxie and Alma. I have a marriage record that seems to fit- [Maxie Pate md Alma Riddles 22 Mar 1903 Worth Co] and three census records that also seem to fit- 1910 Turner Co Enum Dist 173, sheet 14, Amboy, site 145/145 Maxie Pate-----29 W/M Head Md Farmer--GA/GA/GA 1881 Alma Pate------28 W/F Wife Md 7y 3/3-------GA/GA/GA 1882 Arthur Pate------6 W/M Son Sgl-----------------GA/GA/GA 1904 Minnie L Pate- 3 W/F Dau Sgl------------------GA/GA/GA 1907 Rufus Pate----8m W/M Son Sgl-----------------GA/GA/GA 1909 Married about 1903. 3 live births, 3 children still living Year of birth projected from stated age 1920 Turner Co Enum Dist 137, sheet 7A, Ashburn, 1624 GMD, site 151/162 Max Pate-------37 W/M Head ----------GA/US/US 1883 Alma Pate------36 W/F Wife------------GA/GA/GA 1884 Arthur Pate----15 W/M Son-------------GA/GA/GA 1905 Minnie Pate---13 W/F Dau--------------GA/GA/GA 1907 Rufus Pate-----10 W/M Son-------------GA/GA/GA 1910 Richard Pate--- 7 W/M Son------------GA/GA/GA 1913 Florence Pate- 5 W/F Dau--------------GA/GA/GA 1915 Frank Pate------ 3 W/M SON 3y 3m--GA/GA/GA 1917 Year of birth projected from stated age. 1930 Ben Hill Co Enum Dist 9-6, sheet 5a, Fitzgerald, site 85/100 Maxwell Pate---49 W/M Head Md @21 -GA/GA/GA 1881 Alma Pate--------48 W/F Wife Md @20--GA/GA/GA 1882 Florence Pate--15 W/F Dau Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1915 Frank Pate-------13 W/M Son Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1917 Jim Pate----------11 W/M Son Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1919 Nettie Pate------- 6 W/F Dau Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1924 Mary Riddles---65 W/F MNL Wd-------GA/GA/GA 1865 Maxie married at approximate age 21. Alma at approximate age 20. Mary Riddles was mother in law to Maxie (Maxwell). Maxwell is probably enumerator's take on Maxie. Going over all of this I see an error in my conclusions about James D Pate 1891-1961 being a son of Maxie and Alma Pate. Maxie Pate was clearly born about 1881. He had a son named James (Jim) whose birth appears to be about 1919 not 1891. Maxie Pate b abt 1881 married in 1903 did not have a son named James b abt 1891. The James D Pate 1891-1961 buried near Maxie Pate in Ben Hill County was not his son The Jim (James) Pate, age 11 b abt 1911, listed as a son of Maxie and Alma Pate in the 1930 census MAY PERHAPS be James Pate b 31 Aug 1918 d Apr 1986 [from SSDI]. He resided in Cordele, Crisp Co GA, at time of death. The GA Death certificate index has a James H Pate died 20 Apr 1986 in Dougherty Co GA residing in Crisp Co at time of death This appears to be James Hansel Pate b 31 Aug 1918 d 30 Apr 1986, per headstone in Arabi-Antioch cemetery in Crisp Co. James D Pate 1891-1961 bur Ben Hill Co GA near Maxie Pate 1881-1956 were not son and father. Were they perhaps brothers? I thought that the 1900 census of GA might yield some answers so I looked for a Maxie Pate b abt 1881 and did not find one. I looked for a James D Pate b abt 1891 and did not find him either. I did find three interesting households in Worth Co. Enum Dist 104, sheet 124, 1145 GMD, site 454/467 Jason M Pate (Head) b GA Aug 1858 Minnie E Pate (Wife) b GA May 1866 married for 18 years , abt 1882. I think that this is Jason Manasseh Pate Aug 1858-11 Jun 1930 who on 17 Jan 1883 in Worth Co GA married Minnie Emily Cone May 1866-11Nov 1930 Jason Manasseh Pate was a son of Maxie Pate and Kate Holt Enum Dist 10, sheet 30, 1145 GMD, site 564/577 Maxie Pate (Head) b GA Jan 1857 Mary J Pate (Wife) b GA Oct 1861 Lucy E Pate (Dau) b GA Aug 1877 I think that this is Maxie Pate Jr 24 Mar 1856-19 Jun 1932 his wife Mary Jane Philyaw 13 Nov 1860 - 15 Sep 1833 Maxie Pate (Jr) 1856-1932 was a son of Maxie Pate and Kate Holt next door at Enum Dist 10, sheet 30, 1145 GMD, site 565/578 James D Pate b GA Feb 1880 Sarah H Pate b GA Mar 1878 Eva Pate b GA Jun 1899 I think this is James Daniel Pate b Feb 1880 d ? and his wife Sarah H Simpson b Mar 1878 d ? James D Pate married Sarah H Simpson 8 Sep 1899 in Worth Co GA I think that he is James Daniel Pate son of Maxie Pate Jr and Mary Jane Philyaw. Turning again to the 1920 census of Turner Co GA we find Enum Dist 143, sheet 16A, Hobby, site 278/288 Maxie M Pate (head) b ca 1858 Mary Pate (wife) b ca 1848 Enum Dist 143, sheet 17A, Hobby, site 297/307 J Daniel Pate (head) b ca 1881 Sarah A Pate (wife) b ca 1881 Evey Pate (dau) b ca 1900 It would seem that Maxie Pate and Alma Riddles did not have a son named James Daniel Pate but Maxie Pate Jr and Mary Philyaw did. Joel x

Diana: I have some records for the Evergreen Cemetery in Ben Hill Co GA that seem to fit your line. There MAY be errors in the transcription of the dates but what I have- two double graves - MAXIE PATE --------05 Jan 1881-23 Aug 1956 ALMA PATE ---------21 Apr 1882-08 Jun 1949 JAMES D. PATE ---18 Jul 1891-18 Nov 1961 CASSIE C. PATE --26 May-1893-[19 Apr 1979] also have ARTHUR A PATE--07 Jun 1905-20 Nov 1970 RUFUS PATE ------06 Jul 1909 22 Aug 1973 JAMES E HIATT JR --30 Jun 1952-15 Aug 1954 perhaps son of VIRGINIA PATE HIATT [19 Sep 1911-17 Apr 1995]SSDI These dates are consistent with dates found in the GA death certificate index and the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Given the fact that these graves seem to be in a family plot, I concluded that James D Pate 1891-1961 and Arthur A Pate 1905-1970 were sons of Maxie Pate 1881-1945 and Alma (?) Pate 1882-1849. Rufus Pate 1909-1973 also perhaps is a son of Maxie and Alma. I have a marriage record that seems to fit- [Maxie Pate md Alma Riddles 22 Mar 1903 Worth Co] and three census records that also seem to fit- 1910 Turner Co Enum Dist 173, sheet 14, Amboy, site 145/145 Maxie Pate-----29 W/M Head Md Farmer--GA/GA/GA 1881 Alma Pate------28 W/F Wife Md 7y 3/3-------GA/GA/GA 1882 Arthur Pate------6 W/M Son Sgl-----------------GA/GA/GA 1904 Minnie L Pate- 3 W/F Dau Sgl------------------GA/GA/GA 1907 Rufus Pate----8m W/M Son Sgl-----------------GA/GA/GA 1909 Married about 1903. 3 live births, 3 children still living Year of birth projected from stated age 1920 Turner Co Enum Dist 137, sheet 7A, Ashburn, 1624 GMD, site 151/162 Max Pate-------37 W/M Head ----------GA/US/US 1883 Alma Pate------36 W/F Wife------------GA/GA/GA 1884 Arthur Pate----15 W/M Son-------------GA/GA/GA 1905 Minnie Pate---13 W/F Dau--------------GA/GA/GA 1907 Rufus Pate-----10 W/M Son-------------GA/GA/GA 1910 Richard Pate--- 7 W/M Son------------GA/GA/GA 1913 Florence Pate- 5 W/F Dau--------------GA/GA/GA 1915 Frank Pate------ 3 W/M SON 3y 3m--GA/GA/GA 1917 Year of birth projected from stated age. 1930 Ben Hill Co Enum Dist 9-6, sheet 5a, Fitzgerald, site 85/100 Maxwell Pate---49 W/M Head Md @21 -GA/GA/GA 1881 Alma Pate--------48 W/F Wife Md @20--GA/GA/GA 1882 Florence Pate--15 W/F Dau Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1915 Frank Pate-------13 W/M Son Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1917 Jim Pate----------11 W/M Son Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1919 Nettie Pate------- 6 W/F Dau Sgl------GA/GA/GA 1924 Mary Riddles---65 W/F MNL Wd-------GA/GA/GA 1865 Maxie married at approximate age 21. Alma at approximate age 20. Mary Riddles was mother in law to Maxie (Maxwell). Maxwell is probably enumerator's take on Maxie. Going over all of this I see an error in my conclusions about James D Pate 1891-1961 being a son of Maxie and Alma Pate. Maxie Pate was clearly born about 1881. He had a son named James (Jim) whose birth appears to be about 1919 not 1891. Maxie Pate b abt 1881 married in 1903 did not have a son named James b abt 1891. The James D Pate 1891-1961 buried near Maxie Pate in Ben Hill County was not his son The Jim (James) Pate, age 11 b abt 1911, listed as a son of Maxie and Alma Pate in the 1930 census MAY PERHAPS be James Pate b 31 Aug 1918 d Apr 1986 [from SSDI]. He resided in Cordele, Crisp Co GA, at time of death. The GA Death certificate index has a James H Pate died 20 Apr 1986 in Dougherty Co GA residing in Crisp Co at time of death This appears to be James Hansel Pate b 31 Aug 1918 d 30 Apr 1986, per headstone in Arabi-Antioch cemetery in Crisp Co. James D Pate 1891-1961 bur Ben Hill Co GA near Maxie Pate 1881-1956 were not son and father. Were they perhaps brothers? I thought that the 1900 census of GA might yield some answers so I looked for a Maxie Pate b abt 1881 and did not find one. I looked for a James D Pate b abt 1891 and did not find him either. I did find three interesting households in Worth Co. Enum Dist 104, sheet 124, 1145 GMD, site 454/467 Jason M Pate (Head) b GA Aug 1858 Minnie E Pate (Wife) b GA May 1866 married for 18 years , abt 1882. I think that this is Jason Manasseh Pate Aug 1858-11 Jun 1930 who on 17 Jan 1883 in Worth Co GA married Minnie Emily Cone May 1866-11Nov 1930 Jason Manasseh Pate was a son of Maxie Pate and Kate Holt Enum Dist 10, sheet 30, 1145 GMD, site 564/577 Maxie Pate (Head) b GA Jan 1857 Mary J Pate (Wife) b GA Oct 1861 Lucy E Pate (Dau) b GA Aug 1877 I think that this is Maxie Pate Jr 24 Mar 1856-19 Jun 1932 his wife Mary Jane Philyaw 13 Nov 1860 - 15 Sep 1833 Maxie Pate (Jr) 1856-1932 was a son of Maxie Pate and Kate Holt next door at Enum Dist 10, sheet 30, 1145 GMD, site 565/578 James D Pate b GA Feb 1880 Sarah H Pate b GA Mar 1878 Eva Pate b GA Jun 1899 I think this is James Daniel Pate b Feb 1880 d ? and his wife Sarah H Simpson b Mar 1878 d ? James D Pate married Sarah H Simpson 8 Sep 1899 in Worth Co GA I think that he is James Daniel Pate son of Maxie Pate Jr and Mary Jane Philyaw. Turning back to the 1920 census of Turner Co GA we find Enum Dist 143, sheet 16A, Hobby, site 278/288 Maxie M Pate (head) b ca 1858 Mary Pate (wife) b ca 1848 Enum Dist 143, sheet 17A, Hobby, site 297/307 J Daniel Pate (head) b ca 1881 Sarah H Pate (wife) b ca 1881 Evey Pate (dau) b ca 1900 In my opinion Maxie Pate and Alma Riddles did not have a son named James Daniel Pate, but Maxie Pate Jr and Mary Philyaw did have a son named James Daniel Pate. Joel x

Jeremy: James Daniel Pate 1845-1917 was a nephew of James David Pate 1817-1865. James Daniel Pate 1845-1917 was a grand son of Rev William Pate and his 2nd wife, Temperance Parkerson. James David Pate 1817-1865 was a son of Rev William Pate and his 2nd wife, Temperance Pate. Both James Daniel Pate 1845-1917 and James David Pate 1817-1865 MAY be "qualifying" ancestors for SCV or DOC membership purposes for you or your mother. Joel

Jeremy: Do not confuse James Daniel Pate 15 Apr 1845-22 Jun 1917 and James David Pate 28 Jan 1817-28 Aug 1865. James Daniel Pate served in Company F, 25th GA Provost Guards and James David Pate served in Company E, 5th GA Reserves. James Daniel Pate received a pension for his Confederate service. The second wife of James Daniel Pate, Laura McKenzie McDonald, applied for and received a Widow's Pension for the Confederate service of James Daniel Pate. She was residing in Fulton Co GA at the time she applied. Copies of their respective applications are available at the GA State Archives in Atlanta. James David Pate and his wife Mary Jane "Jincy" Moore both died before the establishment of the Confederate Pension program in GA. Following is a summary of facts regarding James Daniel Pate drawn from my GedCom files. BTW the Mary Smith mentioned in this summary was probably a sister to the Jonathan Smith mentioned in the war time correspondence between Mary Jane "Jincy" Moore Pate and her husband, James David Pate. Summary - James Daniel PATE ------------------------------------------------------------------ Name: James Daniel PATE Sex: Male Father: Edwin Elijah Bennett PATE (15 Apr 1815 - 13 Nov 1889) Mother: Mary SMITH (15 Feb 1820 - 8 Dec 1884) Individual Facts Birth 15 Apr 1845 Dooly Co GA Census 1850 (age 5) Dooly Co GA Census 1860 (age 15) Dooly Co GA Military bet 1861-1865 (age 16) Private, Co F, 25th GA Provost Guards; Pulaski Co., GA. Census 1880 (age 35) Dooly Co GA Census 1900 (age 55) Dooly Co GA Death 22 Jun 1917 (age 72) GA Marriages/Children 1. Rachel Elizabeth WHIDDON Marriage 11 May 1865 (age 20) IRWIN CO. GA Children Mary Ann Nancy PATE (1866 - 23 Mar 1923) John William PATE (12 Oct 1867 - 31 Dec 1927) Zackery Taylor PATE (26 Jul 1871 - 7 Dec 1938) James D PATE (1876 - 22 Jan 1917) Jane PATE (1878 - ) Ida E PATE (1880 - ) 2. Laura McKenzie MCDONALD Marriage 20 Aug 1885 (age 40) DOOLY CO. GA Children Elbert Ebb PATE (19 Nov 1880 - 14 Mar 1972) Thurman PATE (1885 - ) Notes (Individual) Census (1850): Page 238, site 155/155 Dooly Co Census (1860): Page 523, site 746/742, Gum Creek, Dooly Co Census (1880): Page 613, ED 22, sheet 47, Dist 14, site 440/443, Dooly Co Census (1900): Enum Dist 91, sheet 18, Arabi, site 356/361

Diana, Any help will be much appreciated. Please not that I believe I am descended from a "James David Pate", NOT a "James Daniel Pate". However, I could be wrong. If a Pate researcher can tell me for sure that "James David Pate" married a (Mary) Jane "Jincy" Moore, and had a son named John Thomas Pate, I would greatly appreciate it. Jeremy ******************************************************************************* >From: "Diana Pate" <dannypate@alltel.net> >Reply-To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com >To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [PATE GENEALOGY] Re: CSA Co. E, 5th Georgia Reserves >Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:03:22 -0500 > >I do not have a lot, but I will share what I have with you if you will >email me directly. Our Pate line came from Pulaski County to >Worth/Turner County. I wish I could get to my old Pate History Book >that is packed up in storage. I might be able to help with some of >this. > >Diana > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeremy Utt [mailto:jeremy_utt@hotmail.com] >Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 8:30 AM >To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Re: CSA Co. E, 5th Georgia Reserves > >Gentlemen, > >Basically, I am just trying to find out if my ancestor "James D. Pate" >(most >likely, "James David Pate") was a Confederate soldier. I believe that >this >man might have served in Co. E, 5th Georgia Reserves. James D. Pate was > >most likely from Wilcox Co., GA (but he could have been from Pulaski >Co., >GA, I think). His wife's name was (Mary) Jane "Jincy" Moore. His >mother, >who I believe was still living at the time of his probable military >service, >was named Temperance Parkerson Pate (maiden name Parkerson). James D. >Pate >did not live long after the War. I believe he died in August 1865. > >What I am trying to do is find concrete evidence that shows that James >D. >Pate was a Confederate soldier. If I am successful, my mother may be >able >to join the UDC. However, we really just want to know one way or the >other. > >Thanks, >Jeremy B. Utt >************************************************************************ >******* > > >From: "Randy & Risa Young" <randyyoung@mchsi.com> > >To: "Jim Pierce" > ><j244@bellsouth.net>,<TSM773@aol.com>,<jeremy_utt@hotmail.com>,<hjtemp@ >sbcglobal.net>,<mortarmike@valornet.com>,<wbts@erols.com>,<eharding2@cox >.net>,<gf3smred@peaknet.net>,<hbouldin@farmerstel.com>,<confed@worldnet. >att.net>,<Kylebs62@aol.com>,<ncpitts@onlyinternet.net>,<Bamareb55@aol.co >m>,<cenantua@yahoo.com>,<starsandbars3333@earthlink.net>,<ColorSgt13NC@w >mconnect.com>,<rajones@esper.com>,<slritchie@netzero.net>,<terry_wabnitz >_scv@yahoo.com>,<faber@bayou.com> > >Subject: Re: CSA Co. E, 5th Georgia Reserves > >Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:39:15 -0500 > > > >Folks, > > > >I've done my bit of digging here in Georgia, and have yet to find >anything > >that hasn't already been shared. > > > >Anything else we are specifically looking for here?? > > > >Randy Young > >Founder/President, South Georgia Relic Resource Library, Inc. > >Lt. Commander, W.D. Mitchell Sons of Confederate Veterans Camp #163 > >Fmr. SCV Georgia Division Education Chairman > >Thomasville, Georgia > > > >http://home.mchsi.com/~randyyoung/sgrrl1.htm > > > >"My heart is filled with gratitude to Almighty God for his unspeakable > >mercies with which He has blessed us in this day. For those He granted >us > >from the beginning of life, and particularly for those He has >vouchsafed us > >during the past year [of war]. What should have become of us without >His > >crowning help and protection? > >"Oh, if our people would only recognize it and cease from self-boasting >and > >adulation, how strong would be my belief in the final success and >happiness > >to our country! But what a cruel thing is war; to separate and destroy > >families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has >granted > >us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for >our > >neighbors, to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world! > >"I pray that on this day when only peace and good-will are preached to > >mankind, better thoughts may fill the hearts of our enemies, and turn >them > >to peace." > >- General Robert E. Lee, Christmas, 1863 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jim Pierce > > To: TSM773@aol.com ; jeremy_utt@hotmail.com ; hjtemp@sbcglobal.net ; > > >mortarmike@valornet.com ; wbts@erols.com ; eharding2@cox.net ; > >gf3smred@peaknet.net ; hbouldin@farmerstel.com ; >confed@worldnet.att.net ; > >Kylebs62@aol.com ; ncpitts@onlyinternet.net ; randyyoung@mchsi.com ; > >Bamareb55@aol.com ; cenantua@yahoo.com ; starsandbars3333@earthlink.net >; > >ColorSgt13NC@wmconnect.com ; rajones@esper.com ; slritchie@netzero.net >; > >terry_wabnitz_scv@yahoo.com ; faber@bayou.com > > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:54 AM > > Subject: Re: CSA Co. E, 5th Georgia Reserves > > > > > > Jeremy and Al, > > > > Further research may reveal that the record for James Daniel may be >for > >the same man who served in the 5th. It is possible he joined up with a > >local unit that was disbanded before official recognition and then >joined > >again in the 5th Reserves, which never saw combat. > > Records I sent in my first reply substantiate that possibility. > > jim pierce > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: TSM773@aol.com > > To: jeremy_utt@hotmail.com ; hjtemp@sbcglobal.net ; > >mortarmike@valornet.com ; TSM773@aol.com ; wbts@erols.com ; > >eharding2@cox.net ; gf3smred@peaknet.net ; hbouldin@farmerstel.com ; > >confed@worldnet.att.net ; j244@bellsouth.net ; Kylebs62@aol.com ; > >ncpitts@onlyinternet.net ; randyyoung@mchsi.com ; Bamareb55@aol.com ; > >cenantua@yahoo.com ; starsandbars3333@earthlink.net ; > >ColorSgt13NC@wmconnect.com ; rajones@esper.com ; slritchie@netzero.net >; > >terry_wabnitz_scv@yahoo.com ; faber@bayou.com > > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:43 PM > > Subject: Re: CSA Co. E, 5th Georgia Reserves > > > > > > Jeremy, > > Do you know what county in Ga. he lived in or what his wife's >name > >was? I find a James Daniel Pate who served in Co.F 25th Georgia Prov >Grds. > >His wife, Laura Pate drew a widows pension in Fulton Co. Ga. > > > > Al Medcalf > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.0 - Release Date: 12/9/04 > >No virus found in this outgoing message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.0 - Release Date: 12/9/04 > > > >

Jim, I have not seen the service records for James Pate. Please note that this James Pate is probably not "James Daniel Pate". If he is, then I will have to deal with that situation if (or when) it arises. I believe that this James Pate is "James David Pate". If this is NOT true, I hope that I will find out soon. Jeremy ******************************************************************************* >From: Jim Templin <hjtemp@sbcglobal.net> >To: Jeremy_utt@hotmail.com, Al Medcalf <TSM773@aol.com>, "David Hammett, >Jr." <wbts@erols.com>, Edward Harding <eharding2@cox.net>, "Gale F. Red" ><gf3smred@peaknet.net>, Harold Bouldin <hbouldin@farmerstel.com>, "I. >Herman Johnson" <confed@att.net>, Jim Templin <hjtemp@sbcglobal.net>, Jim >Pierce <j244@bellsouth.net>, Kyle Sims <kylebs62@aol.com>, Michael Dunagan ><mortarmike@valornet.com>, Neal Pitts <ncpitts@onlyinternet.net>, Randy >Kerlin <Bamareb55@aol.com>, Randy Young <randyyoung@mchsi.com>, Robert >Stephens <starsandbars3333@earthlink.net>, "Rodney P. Williams" ><ColorSgt13NC@wmconnect.com>, Ron Jones <rajones@esper.com>, Steve Ritchie ><slritchie@netzero.net>, Terry Wabnitz <terry_wabnitz_scv@yahoo.com>, Tom >Faber <faber@bayou.com> >Subject: Family Genealogy >Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:53:34 -0800 (PST) > >Jeremy, I agree that John Thomas Pate is the son of James and Jane Pate >from looking at the censuses. Now all we have to prove is that James was >the soldier. Have you seen the service records of James Pate? It should >tell where he mustered in, and if it is close to Wilcox Co., this may be as >much proof as you will ever get. >Jim Templin