Some where in the back of my mind I think Rebecca and Jennen Hulsey were married in Putnam Co. GA. I do believe that I have a copy of the marriage license. I will try to find time to check for it today. My husband has Alzheimer Disease so I do not have much computer time. Someone ask if I had the birth date of Edward Pate Jr. No, I did not find a date of birth for him. Margaret Lindly

Margaret: [From Hulsey researchers] Rebecca Pate married Jennens (Jennings) Hulsey on 13 Mar 1806 in Henry Co GA. Hulsey was b ca 1765 in Kings Mountain, NC and was a Revolutionary War soldier. Rebecca Pate was b ca 1788 in SC and died 31 Aug 1827 in DeKalb Co GA. Hulsey next married a Dixie Dodson. [I am uneasy about this data as Henry Co GA was not authorized and organized until 1821] Nancy Pate married Charles Hulsey on 28 Feb 1811 in Jasper Co GA. He was b ca 1761 in NC and died 1862 in Jefferson Co AL. [Source: LCCN 89-175308, Warren] The marriage date also is listed as 28 Feb 1813. Jasper Co GA was originally named Randolph Co/ The rename occurred in 1812 Randolph/Jasper and Putnam are adjoining counties My notes reflect that Peterson Pate married Rebecca Heath on 5 Jul 1810 in Putnam Co GA We learn a great deal about the PATE-HULSEY connections by looking at early Henry Co GA Deeds [I think most of the following was gathered by Lindy Hard] Henry Co GA deeds (1825?) - Henry Co GA, Deed Bk C/D, p 519. Henry Co, William PATE SR, sold to Charles HULSIE for the sum of $300, 202 1/2 acres, Dist 6, Lot #20. Wit; William HARDIN Clerk; and John M FORBES. Recorded 22 Nov 1825. (No sale date.) 21 Jan 1826 - Butts Co GA, Deed Bk A, p 170. Henry Co GA, 21 Jan 1826, between Chas HULSEY and James CLAYTON for $350, one half of land in 8th Dist of Henry Co, now Butts Co, part of Lot #221 containing 101 1/4 acres bounded by Masons. Wit; James FLETCHER, William PATE, James KIMBROUGH, JP. Signed: James HULSEY. [This deed was taken from GA Genealogical Magazine, #36, p 157, Spring 1970.] 20 Nov 1844 - Henry Co GA, Deed Bk K, p 380. State of Alabama, Cherokee Co. 20 Nov 1844. Charles HULSEY and his wife Nancy HULSEY relinquished to Nidom B [Needham Bart] HULSEY, for the sum of $1000, all their rights and interest in the Estate of William PATE, late of Henry Co GA as heirs to real and personal property thereunder. Wit: Edward HUGHES, John HUGHES JP, William HUGHES. Recorded 2 Dec 1844, John GODWIN, Clk. 11 Jan 1848 - Henry Co GA, Deed Bk L, p 506. Henry Co. 11 Jan 1848. We, the lawful legatees of the Estate of William PATE, deceased, sell unto David DAILY for the sum of $150, land lying in Lot #45, Dist 6. /s/ John PATE, Aaron PATE, Loret PATE, Charles HALSEY, William SHAW, William PATE, A G HULSEY, William M HULSEY, Elizabeth HAMBRICK, E J HULSEY, H COE, J A BARR, John SWANN, and Thomas PATE. Wit: Samuel COPELAND, William RUTLEDGE, G W ROWAN, John JOHNSON. Recorded 29 May 1849. C M SPEER, Clk End I have tried, not too successfully, to identify the legatees of William Pate who signed this deed William Pate Sr died intestate. the legatees of his estate all signed a deed for property, Lot 45 in Henry Co GA. The heirs signing the deed were: John Pate-------------a son married 1st to Armarinda Camp Aaron Pate-----------a son married to Keizah Camp Loret Pate------------unmarried dau or widowed DNL Charles Hulsey-----a SNL, in right of his wife, Nancy Pate William Shaw--------a SNL. in right of his wife Elizabeth Pate William Pate---------a son A G Hulsey------------perhaps a dau or a g/dau William M Hulsey----perhaps a SNL or a g/son Elizabeth Hambrick--perhaps a widowed dau E J Hulsey-------------perhaps Elizabeth Jane Pate or a g/dau H Coe ------------------perhaps a SNL J A Barr----------------perhaps a SNL John Swann-----------perhaps a SNL Thomas Pate----------a son married 2nd to Rutledge (see GA census and slave schedules Joel

Thank you so very much..... -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate <patej@nettally.com> Sent: Apr 11, 2005 1:34 PM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] LWT Edward Pate WILL OF EDWARD PATE, Sussex Co VA, made 29 OCT 1804, probated 4 APR 1805. Sussex Co Will Book F, Page 465 et seq In the name of God Amen, I EDWARD PATE, of the county of Sussex being at this time in a low state of health, but of sound mind and memory and knowing that it is ordained for Men once to die, and at what time it is uncertain, but being desirous to settle my worldly affairs do think proper to make this my last Will and Testament in the manner following: Imprimis. I commit my Soul unto the hands of the Almighty giver in hopes of a blessed immortality through the merits of a blessed redeemer and I desire that my body be discreetly buried at the discretion of my Executors. Item. I give and bequeath unto my beloved son, CORDY PATE, and to his heirs all that part of my land purchased of Nicholas Prince lying on the North side of the new road and whereon my said Son now lives containing 20 acres be the same more or less for which he is to be accountable to my Executors for the sum of 20 pounds also one feather bed which he now has in possession, to the value of 8 pounds which is also to account for in the same manner. Item. I give and bequeath unto my beloved daughter, REBECCAH PATE, one feather bed and furniture which she calls hers, for which she is to be accountable for at the price of 8 pounds. Item. I give and bequeath unto my daughter, LUCY PATE, one feather bed and furniture of her choice at the price of 8 pounds which she is also to be accountable for on a general Division. Item. It is my Will and desire that my two sons, EDWARD and HARTWELL be schooled two years each at the expense of my estate, and that my Executors pay for one years schooling for my Son, EDMUND, provided he wishes to go to school, if not that they pay him 40 shillings in lieu thereof. Item. As I have made several former gifts to my three sons, HARBERT, HARDY and HENRY, who are to responsible for them on a general settlement or division of my estate I do hereby confirm those gifts already made to them for which are as follows - to my son, HARBERT, one sorrel horse colt, of the value of 8 pounds, to my son, HARDY, one feather bed and furniture of the value of 8 pounds, to HENRY. one feather bed and furniture of the value of 8 pounds. Item. It is my Will and desire that my Executors retain in their hands 10 pounds of my daughter REBECCA PATE's part of my estate which I do hereby give to my grandchild, BURRELL PATE, son of my said daughter, REBECCA PATE, and which I do desire may be laid out in his education. Item. It is my Will and desire that my lands be sold by my Executors hereafter named who I do hereby vest with full power and authority to sell and convey the same in fee simple to the purchaser or purchasers on such credit as they may judge best. And I do desire that my two tracts of land be sold separately and not together and all the rest of my estate not before given away I desire may be sold and the money arising from such sale with the amount of legacys before given, be equally divided between all of my children to them and their heirs forever. Lastly, I do nominate and appoint my three sons, HARBERT PATE, HARDY PATE and CORDY PATE, Executors to this my last Will and Testament making and declaring all former wills void, by me heretofore made, and confirming this and no other to be my last Will and Testament. In Testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this 29th day of October 1804. Signed, sealed and Acknowledged in the presence of William (X) Pate Peterson Pate /s/ Edward (X) Pate (Seal) At a Court held for Sussex County on the 4th day of April 1805 the last Will and Testament of EDWARD PATE, dec'd, was presented unto Court by HARDY and CORDY PATE, two of the Executors therein names and the same was proved by the Oaths of WILLIAM PATE and PETERSON PATE, two of the subscribing witnesses and ordered to be recorded and on motion of said Executors who made Oath and gave Bond and Security agreeably to law, certificate is granted them for obtaining probate thereof in due form. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

The will did not always named the husband of their daughters. Take Thomas Pate died 1773 named his daughter as Mary Turner & Elizabeth Freeman. thanks to that I have never been able to find out who their husbands. Strange no one is researching William & Rebecca. Then they mostly married 1st cousins. What John Pate that we didn't find a marriage for is related to REbecca. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:54 AM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Edward Pate-Rebecca Pate-Burrell Pate of Sussex Co VA > > Jinks: > It is clear from Northampton Co NC census data that Burrell(Burwell) S Pate was born abt 1804. The g/f of Burrell Pate, Edward Pate, specially named him in his LWT, which was written 29 Oct 1804 in Sussex Co VA. Clearly, Burrell Pate was born and named prior to 29 Oct 1804. > > The only sequence of events I can conjure up to make is fit goes like this- > 1 John Pate, a cousin of Rebecca Pate, a daughter of Edward Pate, impregnates her in late 1803 or early 1804. Imagine that! > > 2. Prior to the 12 May 1804 marriage of John Pate and Rebecca Pate, her early pregnancy is discovered. This kind of forces the issue of Rebecca's marriage, even to a close cousin. This also assumes (bad thing to do) that the Rebecca Pate who married John Pate 12 May 1804 was the daughter of Edward pate who wrote his LWT 29 Oct 1804. > > 3. Edward Pate, in his 29 Oct 1804 LWT, made his bequest to his dau, Rebecca Pate. Customarily, he would have made his bequest to his son-in-law, in "the right of" his dau. If Rebecca Pate, dau of Edward Pate and mother of Burrell Pate, was the same Rebecca Pate who married John Pate 12 May 1804, why was he, John Pate, not named in the LWT of Edward Pate? Perhaps this John Pate was deceased or perhaps Edward Pate view this John Pate as an unwelcome interloper and deliberately bypassed him when writing his will. > > 4. Rebecca Pate, dau of Edward Pate, could have borne Burrell Pate out of wed lock and the Rebecca Pate who married John Pate was a different Rebecca Pate. > > At any rate, I haven't a clue as to the parents of this John Pate. > > After looking at this again, I am comfortable with the conclusion (better than an assumption) that the Rebecca Haile who married William Pate 26 Sep 1783 in Southampton Co VA, was NOT the Rebecca Pate named in the 29 Oct 1804 LWT of Edward Pate. > > Which gets us back to Helen's original question- who were this William Pate and Rebecca Hail and what became of them? > JMP >

This is speculation only. Is it possible that Rebecca Hail Pate died and William Pate married Catherine? And the daughter Rebecca may have been the daughter of William and Rebecca Hail Pate. This Rebecca married Jennens "Jinsey" Hulsey in Putnam Co. GA. ( Can't find the date right this minute, but it was close to the time that Peterson Pate married Rebecca Heath in Putnam Co. GA). Margaret Lindly

William Pate born about 1760 Sussex Co. VA, married Rebecca Hail 26 September 1783 Sussex Co. VA. William was the son of Thomas Pate born 24 August 1739 Albermarle Parish Surry Co. VA. Thomas Pate was chr'nd on 23 December 1739 at Albermarle Parish in Surry Co. VA which is now Sussex Co. VA. He died about 1821 Sussex Co. VA. Thomas married Mary Felts about 1759 VA. Thomas Pate was the son of Thomas Pate born 1705 and Mary Thomas. The children of Thomas Pate (1739 - about 1821) and Mary Felts Pate were: William (about 1760) Lydia ( 1762) Winney (1763) Elizabeth (1764) Thomas (1767) Jesse (1768 - or 1771) Sussanah "SuKy" 1770) Jordan (1773) So, far some of this is speculation and has been open to errors. This information has been collected over 50 years on this family and we have never been able to completely nail it all down. We know that Thomas Pate (1739) is the son of Thomas Pate (1705 - 1774). Thomas Pate (1705 - 1774) was the brother of Edward Pate (1742 - 1805). We are reasonably sure that Thomas Pate (1739) is the father of William Pate (about 1760 VA) and that we are almost certain that this William Pate is the father of Peterson Pate ( January 1785 Sussex Co. VA - died before 29 May 1848 Anderson Co. TX) This Peterson Pate married Rebecca Heath 5 July 1810 Putnam Co. GA. We believe that William and his son Peterson witnessed the Will of Edward Pate ( 1742 - 1805 ). We know that Peterson Pate had a son named William and a son among others named Elijah Moseley Pate. We know Elijah Pate was the father of Amanda Jane Pate, Marion Franklin Pate and Wiley Edward Pate. We know that Wiley Edward Pate had son William Monroe Pate. We know that William Monroe Pate had a daughter named Margaret A. Pate. Margaret Lindly

So far this is all I have found on Burwell (Burell) Pate . He was born 1805 - 1815 where and when unknown, most likely VA . He was the son of John Pate born 1780 and Rebecca Pate born 1785 VA. John and Rebecca were married 12 May 1812 Sussex Co. VA. Rebecca daughter of Edward Pate (1742 - 1805) and Lucretia Adams (1750 VA - ?). Edwards children: Harbert, Hardy, Cordy, Edmund, Rebecca, Lucy, Henry, Hartwell, and Edward. Edwards will was 22 February 1773 Augusta Co. VA. Edwars will made probate 29 October 29 October 1804. Probate continued to 4 April 1805 Sussex Co. VA. This will was witnessed by William Pate ( whom I believe to be Peterson's Father) and Peterson Pate. Peterson Pate was my great great grandfather on my paternal side and my great great great grandfather on my maternal side. Edward was the son of Thomas 1705 VA - 1774 VA and Mary ( maiden name unknown). This is the only Burwell (Burell) Pate I have in my records at this time. Margaret Lindly

Jinks: It is clear from Northampton Co NC census data that Burrell(Burwell) S Pate was born abt 1804. The g/f of Burrell Pate, Edward Pate, specially named him in his LWT, which was written 29 Oct 1804 in Sussex Co VA. Clearly, Burrell Pate was born and named prior to 29 Oct 1804. The only sequence of events I can conjure up to make is fit goes like this- 1 John Pate, a cousin of Rebecca Pate, a daughter of Edward Pate, impregnates her in late 1803 or early 1804. Imagine that! 2. Prior to the 12 May 1804 marriage of John Pate and Rebecca Pate, her early pregnancy is discovered. This kind of forces the issue of Rebecca's marriage, even to a close cousin. This also assumes (bad thing to do) that the Rebecca Pate who married John Pate 12 May 1804 was the daughter of Edward pate who wrote his LWT 29 Oct 1804. 3. Edward Pate, in his 29 Oct 1804 LWT, made his bequest to his dau, Rebecca Pate. Customarily, he would have made his bequest to his son-in-law, in "the right of" his dau. If Rebecca Pate, dau of Edward Pate and mother of Burrell Pate, was the same Rebecca Pate who married John Pate 12 May 1804, why was he, John Pate, not named in the LWT of Edward Pate? Perhaps this John Pate was deceased or perhaps Edward Pate view this John Pate as an unwelcome interloper and deliberately bypassed him when writing his will. 4. Rebecca Pate, dau of Edward Pate, could have borne Burrell Pate out of wed lock and the Rebecca Pate who married John Pate was a different Rebecca Pate. At any rate, I haven't a clue as to the parents of this John Pate. After looking at this again, I am comfortable with the conclusion (better than an assumption) that the Rebecca Haile who married William Pate 26 Sep 1783 in Southampton Co VA, was NOT the Rebecca Pate named in the 29 Oct 1804 LWT of Edward Pate. Which gets us back to Helen's original question- who were this William Pate and Rebecca Hail and what became of them? JMP

This is taken from the Sunday, April 10, 2005, The Paducah Sun in Paducah, KY. William Austin Pate Jr. William Austin Pate Jr., 79, of Paducah died of heart failure at 8:30 p.m. April 8, 2005, at home. He served as a member of the U.S. Navy from 1943-1946 assigned to U.S.S. Wainwright. He retired from BF Goodrich. His parents were William Austin Pate Sr and Elizabeth Monica Mattingly. Sue C. Pate, his beloved wife of 52 years died in 1999. He is survived by his children/spouses Don and Linda Pate, And and David King, Bill and Yvonne Pate, Linda and Keith Howe and Alice and Jim Sherer. His grandchildren are Scott, Mathew Bethany, Patrick, Alex, Thomas and Christopher. His great-grandchild is Abby. His grandchildren Michael and Logan are deceased. Viewing will be 5-8 p.m. Sunday April 10, 2005 at Lindsey Funeral Home, 226 N. 4th St., Paducah, Ky. Funeral services will be held 10 a.m. Monday, April 11, 2005, at St Francis de Sales Church at 116 S. 6th, Paducah, Ky. He will be buried beside his beloved wife at Fooks Cemetery on Mt. Moriah Road in Benton, Ky., following services. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

Where did you find this! I had heard stories. A small note for your amusement, the name of my company is Lion enterprises llc. Good thing I don't Gamble I continue to appreciate your dedication Thanks hon. Michael S. Pate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:55 PM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Robert C Pate - St Louis, MO > The following 1914 news article may be of interest- > > R.C. Pate Dead > "Gambling King" Lost Big Fortune Made thousands in St. Louis in day when "lid was off," but luck changed! > > Robert C. Pate, who made and lost a fortune in St. Louis as a horse owner, racetrack promoter, > bookmaker, and gambling house proprietor, died at his home, 1908 La Salle Street yesterday. > Though he had long been suffering from cancer of the tongue, said to have been caused by excessive > cigar smoking, the immediate cause of death was bronchitis. He was 75 years old. > > In recent years his main financial dependence has been a pension paid to him by the Government in recognition of his service as a Union officer in the Civil War. He was Captain of the thirty-seventh Indiana Infantry. > > An operation performed a year ago had impaired Pate's speech to such an extent that what he said was understood only by his wife, who nursed him through his long illness and was at his bedside when he died. > > KNOWN AS "GAMBLING KING" > > In the old wide-open days of St. Louis prior to the early 80's, Pate was known throughout the Southwest, and South as the "Gambling King of St. Louis." Laws were not stringent in those days and the privilege of running gambling games was > purchasable. To further his interests along this line Pate became active in politics and became so influential that it was common gossip that he controlled many public officials. In consequence his gambling ventures were seldom molested. > > He was a power in the days of Pool Alley, when the bookmakers infested the narrow by-ways between Seventh and Eighth streets, Olive and Pine streets. For many years one of the largest of the pool rooms there had a flamboyant sign > over the door proclaiming it "Pate's Turf Exchange." > > LOST FORTUNE IN RACE VENTURES > > At one time Pate was reputed to have several hundred thousand dollars, but he lost most of the money in racetrack ventures in St. Louis and Mexico after gambling houses, which he controlled, were closed by the Johnson anti-gambling law in 1882. There were nearly 60 indictments against him when he gave up the fight in St. Louis and went to Mexico to open a > racetrack. > > For several years after this he continued to operate racetracks and poolrooms in St. Louis. He was financially interested in the Kinloch and Union racetracks, which were put out of business by the repeal of the Breeder's law when Joseph W. > Folk was Governor. > > When Pate went to Mexico after being put out of business in St. Louis he obtained from President > Dias a concession to operate a racetrack. He afterwards told friends he lost several hundred thousand dollars there. > > CAME HERE IN 1867 > > As an added attraction at his Mexican track he once pitted an African lion against a fighting bull. The animals fought to a finish in a steel cage in view of a large audience. The bull won. Pate had bet heavily on the lion. > > Pate was the son of a wealthy farmer. He ran away from home at Dillsboro, Ind. when 10 years old and never returned. Until about 20 years old he lived with an uncle at Lawrenceville, Ind. He came to St. Louis in 1867. After conducting > gambling games on steamboats he opened houses in St. Louis. > > He married Miss Lollie Faudree at Hamilton, Ohio in 1868. She died two years later. In 1875 he married Miss Mary A. Cullinane of St. Louis. Robert Pate, a son by the first marriage, and Mrs. Shellie Turner, a daughter by the second, > are living. Three other children died. > > WANTED TO MEET OLD FRIENDS > > Shortly before the opening of the World's Fair, Pate returned to St. Louis from Mexico and planned to open a gambling house, thinking the city would be wide-open during the fair. He guessed wrong. After he had fitted up luxurious > gaming rooms at 112 South Fourth Street the police backed up a battery of moving vans and carted away the gorgeous furniture. Pate's guess had been as wrong as when he backed the African lion against the Mexican bull. > > Pate and his wife in recent years have lived in rooming houses in various parts of town. Mrs. Pate today told a Post-Dispatch reporter that in his last illness Pate expressed two desires. One was to go back to Mexico and again enter the horseracing game there and the other was to go to the Laclede Hotel and meet friends of other days who once gathered there. She had > been planning to hire an automobile and take him to the Laclede. > > Twenty-five years ago Pate and his family lived in what was considered one of the finest St. Louis suburban homes. It was on the Baden bluffs overlooking the river, north of the city limits. This home, originally built by D. A. January, was said to have cost more than $100,000.00, with the furnishings. Pate was a lavish entertainer there in the days of his prosperity. > > PAID $30,000 FOR HOME > > Maj. Charles G. Gonter, 89 years old, who knew Pate in the gambler's prosperous days was one of the old acquaintances whom Pate longed to meet at the Laclede Hotel. Major Gonter today told a Post-Dispatch reporter of Pate's purchase of the January farm in Baden. Jim Robinson, a famous circus man and noted bareback rider owned the estate and had transformed it into a training ground for his horses. > > Pate visited the place as Robinson's guest. He bought it from Robinson for $30,000 in cash. A few days later Pate took his wife to the Robinson estate. After a tour of inspection Mrs. Pate sighed and expressed a wish that she could have such a home. "You have, my dear," said Pate. "This place is ours" and he showed her the deed of sale. Later he mortgaged the place and lost it in financing his Mexican racing venture. > > - St. Louis Post Dispatch, September 5, 1914 > >

The clause from the 1804-1805 LWT of Edward Pate of Sussex Co VA that addresses his dau, Rebecca and her son Burrell provides- Item. It is my Will and desire that my Executors retain in their hands 10 pounds of my daughter REBECCA PATE's part of my estate which I do hereby give to my grandchild, BURRELL PATE, son of my said daughter, REBECCA PATE, and which I do desire may be laid out in his education. What conclusion can be drawn from this clause? Questions: 1. Was PATE both Rebecca's maiden and married name? 2. If so, who was her PATE husband. 3. Who was the father of Burrell Pate? 4. Did Burrell Pate use PATE as a surname because his father was unknown or at least unnamed? 5. Was this Burrell Pate the same as Burwell S Pate who married Nancy IVEY in Southampton Co VA 4 Nov 1820? Burrell Pate and Nancy Anne Ivey relocated about 20 miles south into Northampton Co NC and raised a large family. There were traces of this line in Northampton Co NC as late as 1930. Joel

Joel - what about the marriage in Sussex Co, VA 12 May 1804 for John Pate & Rebecca Pate??? If these are parents of Burrell Pate - who are John Pate's parents??? Jinks Pate Lee jinksp@juno.com Pate Webpage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16

WILL OF EDWARD PATE, Sussex Co VA, made 29 OCT 1804, probated 4 APR 1805. Sussex Co Will Book F, Page 465 et seq In the name of God Amen, I EDWARD PATE, of the county of Sussex being at this time in a low state of health, but of sound mind and memory and knowing that it is ordained for Men once to die, and at what time it is uncertain, but being desirous to settle my worldly affairs do think proper to make this my last Will and Testament in the manner following: Imprimis. I commit my Soul unto the hands of the Almighty giver in hopes of a blessed immortality through the merits of a blessed redeemer and I desire that my body be discreetly buried at the discretion of my Executors. Item. I give and bequeath unto my beloved son, CORDY PATE, and to his heirs all that part of my land purchased of Nicholas Prince lying on the North side of the new road and whereon my said Son now lives containing 20 acres be the same more or less for which he is to be accountable to my Executors for the sum of 20 pounds also one feather bed which he now has in possession, to the value of 8 pounds which is also to account for in the same manner. Item. I give and bequeath unto my beloved daughter, REBECCAH PATE, one feather bed and furniture which she calls hers, for which she is to be accountable for at the price of 8 pounds. Item. I give and bequeath unto my daughter, LUCY PATE, one feather bed and furniture of her choice at the price of 8 pounds which she is also to be accountable for on a general Division. Item. It is my Will and desire that my two sons, EDWARD and HARTWELL be schooled two years each at the expense of my estate, and that my Executors pay for one years schooling for my Son, EDMUND, provided he wishes to go to school, if not that they pay him 40 shillings in lieu thereof. Item. As I have made several former gifts to my three sons, HARBERT, HARDY and HENRY, who are to responsible for them on a general settlement or division of my estate I do hereby confirm those gifts already made to them for which are as follows - to my son, HARBERT, one sorrel horse colt, of the value of 8 pounds, to my son, HARDY, one feather bed and furniture of the value of 8 pounds, to HENRY. one feather bed and furniture of the value of 8 pounds. Item. It is my Will and desire that my Executors retain in their hands 10 pounds of my daughter REBECCA PATE's part of my estate which I do hereby give to my grandchild, BURRELL PATE, son of my said daughter, REBECCA PATE, and which I do desire may be laid out in his education. Item. It is my Will and desire that my lands be sold by my Executors hereafter named who I do hereby vest with full power and authority to sell and convey the same in fee simple to the purchaser or purchasers on such credit as they may judge best. And I do desire that my two tracts of land be sold separately and not together and all the rest of my estate not before given away I desire may be sold and the money arising from such sale with the amount of legacys before given, be equally divided between all of my children to them and their heirs forever. Lastly, I do nominate and appoint my three sons, HARBERT PATE, HARDY PATE and CORDY PATE, Executors to this my last Will and Testament making and declaring all former wills void, by me heretofore made, and confirming this and no other to be my last Will and Testament. In Testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this 29th day of October 1804. Signed, sealed and Acknowledged in the presence of William (X) Pate Peterson Pate /s/ Edward (X) Pate (Seal) At a Court held for Sussex County on the 4th day of April 1805 the last Will and Testament of EDWARD PATE, dec'd, was presented unto Court by HARDY and CORDY PATE, two of the Executors therein names and the same was proved by the Oaths of WILLIAM PATE and PETERSON PATE, two of the subscribing witnesses and ordered to be recorded and on motion of said Executors who made Oath and gave Bond and Security agreeably to law, certificate is granted them for obtaining probate thereof in due form.

Where may I get a copy of Edward's probated will 1805??? deborah -----Original Message----- From: Helen Pate Ross <ross@empowering.com> Sent: Apr 10, 2005 8:28 AM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Pate/Hail REbeccah Pate aughter of Edward Pate had a son Burrell no mention of who his father was . Edwards will was probated Apr 1805 I am updating my old files and hoing someone has found more than we had before. Anything newer on Jordan? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Pate/Hail > Helen: > There was a John Pate who married a Rebecca Pate in Sussex Co VA 12 May > 1804. I have often wondered if she was Rebecca Hail(es) Pate, widow of > William Pate or perhaps if she was Rebecca Pate, dau of Edward and Lucretia > Pate of Sussex Co. Kinchen Felts was the bondsman for the 1804 marriage > license. > Puzzlement > Joel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen Pate Ross" <ross@empowering.com> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:31 PM > Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Pate/Hail > > > > William Pate married Rebecca Hail Sep 26 1782 in Sussex Co VA. Who were > their children? Where did they live and die? > > Helen > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

The following 1914 news article may be of interest- R.C. Pate Dead "Gambling King" Lost Big Fortune Made thousands in St. Louis in day when "lid was off," but luck changed! Robert C. Pate, who made and lost a fortune in St. Louis as a horse owner, racetrack promoter, bookmaker, and gambling house proprietor, died at his home, 1908 La Salle Street yesterday. Though he had long been suffering from cancer of the tongue, said to have been caused by excessive cigar smoking, the immediate cause of death was bronchitis. He was 75 years old. In recent years his main financial dependence has been a pension paid to him by the Government in recognition of his service as a Union officer in the Civil War. He was Captain of the thirty-seventh Indiana Infantry. An operation performed a year ago had impaired Pate's speech to such an extent that what he said was understood only by his wife, who nursed him through his long illness and was at his bedside when he died. KNOWN AS "GAMBLING KING" In the old wide-open days of St. Louis prior to the early 80's, Pate was known throughout the Southwest, and South as the "Gambling King of St. Louis." Laws were not stringent in those days and the privilege of running gambling games was purchasable. To further his interests along this line Pate became active in politics and became so influential that it was common gossip that he controlled many public officials. In consequence his gambling ventures were seldom molested. He was a power in the days of Pool Alley, when the bookmakers infested the narrow by-ways between Seventh and Eighth streets, Olive and Pine streets. For many years one of the largest of the pool rooms there had a flamboyant sign over the door proclaiming it "Pate's Turf Exchange." LOST FORTUNE IN RACE VENTURES At one time Pate was reputed to have several hundred thousand dollars, but he lost most of the money in racetrack ventures in St. Louis and Mexico after gambling houses, which he controlled, were closed by the Johnson anti-gambling law in 1882. There were nearly 60 indictments against him when he gave up the fight in St. Louis and went to Mexico to open a racetrack. For several years after this he continued to operate racetracks and poolrooms in St. Louis. He was financially interested in the Kinloch and Union racetracks, which were put out of business by the repeal of the Breeder's law when Joseph W. Folk was Governor. When Pate went to Mexico after being put out of business in St. Louis he obtained from President Dias a concession to operate a racetrack. He afterwards told friends he lost several hundred thousand dollars there. CAME HERE IN 1867 As an added attraction at his Mexican track he once pitted an African lion against a fighting bull. The animals fought to a finish in a steel cage in view of a large audience. The bull won. Pate had bet heavily on the lion. Pate was the son of a wealthy farmer. He ran away from home at Dillsboro, Ind. when 10 years old and never returned. Until about 20 years old he lived with an uncle at Lawrenceville, Ind. He came to St. Louis in 1867. After conducting gambling games on steamboats he opened houses in St. Louis. He married Miss Lollie Faudree at Hamilton, Ohio in 1868. She died two years later. In 1875 he married Miss Mary A. Cullinane of St. Louis. Robert Pate, a son by the first marriage, and Mrs. Shellie Turner, a daughter by the second, are living. Three other children died. WANTED TO MEET OLD FRIENDS Shortly before the opening of the World's Fair, Pate returned to St. Louis from Mexico and planned to open a gambling house, thinking the city would be wide-open during the fair. He guessed wrong. After he had fitted up luxurious gaming rooms at 112 South Fourth Street the police backed up a battery of moving vans and carted away the gorgeous furniture. Pate's guess had been as wrong as when he backed the African lion against the Mexican bull. Pate and his wife in recent years have lived in rooming houses in various parts of town. Mrs. Pate today told a Post-Dispatch reporter that in his last illness Pate expressed two desires. One was to go back to Mexico and again enter the horseracing game there and the other was to go to the Laclede Hotel and meet friends of other days who once gathered there. She had been planning to hire an automobile and take him to the Laclede. Twenty-five years ago Pate and his family lived in what was considered one of the finest St. Louis suburban homes. It was on the Baden bluffs overlooking the river, north of the city limits. This home, originally built by D. A. January, was said to have cost more than $100,000.00, with the furnishings. Pate was a lavish entertainer there in the days of his prosperity. PAID $30,000 FOR HOME Maj. Charles G. Gonter, 89 years old, who knew Pate in the gambler's prosperous days was one of the old acquaintances whom Pate longed to meet at the Laclede Hotel. Major Gonter today told a Post-Dispatch reporter of Pate's purchase of the January farm in Baden. Jim Robinson, a famous circus man and noted bareback rider owned the estate and had transformed it into a training ground for his horses. Pate visited the place as Robinson's guest. He bought it from Robinson for $30,000 in cash. A few days later Pate took his wife to the Robinson estate. After a tour of inspection Mrs. Pate sighed and expressed a wish that she could have such a home. "You have, my dear," said Pate. "This place is ours" and he showed her the deed of sale. Later he mortgaged the place and lost it in financing his Mexican racing venture. - St. Louis Post Dispatch, September 5, 1914

Where did they live & die? ----- Original Message ----- From: <MargaretLindly@aol.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Pate/Hail > Peterson Pate was their son. > > Margaret Lindly >

Peterson Pate was their son. Margaret Lindly

REbeccah Pate aughter of Edward Pate had a son Burrell no mention of who his father was . Edwards will was probated Apr 1805 I am updating my old files and hoing someone has found more than we had before. Anything newer on Jordan? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Pate/Hail > Helen: > There was a John Pate who married a Rebecca Pate in Sussex Co VA 12 May > 1804. I have often wondered if she was Rebecca Hail(es) Pate, widow of > William Pate or perhaps if she was Rebecca Pate, dau of Edward and Lucretia > Pate of Sussex Co. Kinchen Felts was the bondsman for the 1804 marriage > license. > Puzzlement > Joel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen Pate Ross" <ross@empowering.com> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:31 PM > Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Pate/Hail > > > > William Pate married Rebecca Hail Sep 26 1782 in Sussex Co VA. Who were > their children? Where did they live and die? > > Helen > > > > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Pate/Hail > Helen: > There was a John Pate who married a Rebecca Pate in Sussex Co VA 12 May > 1804. I have often wondered if she was Rebecca Hail(es) Pate, widow of > William Pate or perhaps if she was Rebecca Pate, dau of Edward and Lucretia > Pate of Sussex Co. Kinchen Felts was the bondsman for the 1804 marriage > license. > Puzzlement > Joel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen Pate Ross" <ross@empowering.com> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:31 PM > Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Pate/Hail > > > > William Pate married Rebecca Hail Sep 26 1782 in Sussex Co VA. Who were > their children? Where did they live and die? > > Helen > > > > > > > > > >

Helen: There was a John Pate who married a Rebecca Pate in Sussex Co VA 12 May 1804. I have often wondered if she was Rebecca Hail(es) Pate, widow of William Pate or perhaps if she was Rebecca Pate, dau of Edward and Lucretia Pate of Sussex Co. Kinchen Felts was the bondsman for the 1804 marriage license. Puzzlement Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Pate Ross" <ross@empowering.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Pate/Hail > William Pate married Rebecca Hail Sep 26 1782 in Sussex Co VA. Who were their children? Where did they live and die? > Helen > > >