aprilwho@alltel.net wrote: >Hello, > >Just wondering if anyone else is looking for (or has) >information on Jeremiah Pate (4 Feb 1844) md. >Lucinda Blair (1 Aug 1850) in Sangamon Co. IL 24 Aug >1869? > >I have looked at the Pate Archives at rootsweb.com and >found three posts that were related: 19 Dec 2002 #163, >25 Feb 2000 # 43, and 14 Dec 2000 # 230. > >I'm (probably very obviously) new to family history >research and am wondering which of these two >sources is more reliable: a census transcription that I >found online at census-online.com or a copy of a death >certificate? The information that I have found in the >1880 Brown Co. IL Census for Elkhorn township >(which, by the way, spells the last name as PATES) >conflicts with Jeremiah Pate's death certificate >regarding his birthplace. I know death certificates are >considered secondary resources regarding >birthdate/places. Any comments? > >Thanks so much! >April > > > > > I have been trying to track a Jeremiah Pate from Illinois as well. Of the two I have looked at as possible matches, one came from Indiana and the other from Alabama and is last found in Greene County, Missouri. I am related to the one from Alabama, and can give you some more information if we have a match.. Stephen R. Sherrill

Hello, Just wondering if anyone else is looking for (or has) information on Jeremiah Pate (4 Feb 1844) md. Lucinda Blair (1 Aug 1850) in Sangamon Co. IL 24 Aug 1869? I have looked at the Pate Archives at rootsweb.com and found three posts that were related: 19 Dec 2002 #163, 25 Feb 2000 # 43, and 14 Dec 2000 # 230. I'm (probably very obviously) new to family history research and am wondering which of these two sources is more reliable: a census transcription that I found online at census-online.com or a copy of a death certificate? The information that I have found in the 1880 Brown Co. IL Census for Elkhorn township (which, by the way, spells the last name as PATES) conflicts with Jeremiah Pate's death certificate regarding his birthplace. I know death certificates are considered secondary resources regarding birthdate/places. Any comments? Thanks so much! April

Janice, Thanks for writing about your Jesse Pate. Family history says my Jesse Pate's birth yr was 1814 in NC. 1840 census sites him as born between 1800-1810 (age 30-40). But who knows if that is correct. I have been unable to find anything that might be a second source for a better estimate of his age as having been born in 1814, or 1800-1814. I think it is possible he came from TN and is a brother or cousin to William Riley Pate, Redding Pate, or Jacob Pate of southern IL. Thanks. Carol Janice Pate wrote: > ================================================= > > ====================================================== > > My great-grandfather, Jesse Pate, was born 8 Nov. 1820 in Buncombe > County, NC. The area later became Yancey County. He remained in > western NC dying in Cherokee County 24 Dec. 1903. > > I have seen where some researchers have listed his birth as 1814-1820 > and may be confusing two Jesses. I have been unable to find any PATEs > in Buncombe County prior to 1830, with the exception of Jesse's > father. John Pate served in Capt. Lowry's Co., of the NC Militia under > the name of John Randolph (his stepfather's surname). Between the > Compiled Military Service Record and the War of 1812 pension > application we can place him in Buncombe County (later Yancey) as > early as 3 June 1808. > > Janice Pate > > > >

================================================= X-Message: #4 Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:13:26 -0400 From: Carol <carol413@verizon.net> To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <427D59A6.4070406@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Davis W Pate 1823-1883 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Jinks I am (forever) trying to find something on my Jesse Pate. He married Loucretia Edwards in Macon Co, IL in 1836. They moved along with her parents to JoDavis Co, IL which was the Wisconsin Territory (1838). They all removed to Jackson Co, IA. Unfortunately, he died in 1848 and he only had two children. Not much family to follow. But, I am trying to find his parents. Supposedly, he was born in Buncombe, NC abt 1814. Anyway, Jacob Pate who removed from Dearborn Co, IN to JoDavis Co to Jones Co, IA. He married Emma Hamilton in 1832/33 (I have you as source on that). I have his birth year as Abt 1790. Jacob had a brother Henry who was in Dearborn Co, IN to Dubuque Co, IA in 1840. Both were vets of the War of 1812. I have nothing that proves that Jacob, Jesse and Henry are linked, but can't help but feel that they are. Still searching. Aanother reason I was so interested in Davis - one he was from Dearborn Co and because he was in Jewell Co, KS - you say in 1880. My 3gr grandfather Thomas Jefferson Wilson left Jackson Co, IA and removed to Jewell Co, KS. His family is listed in the 1880 census. Thomas was born in Decatur Co, IN. I have a couple family lines from that area of IN. Carol ====================================================== My great-grandfather, Jesse Pate, was born 8 Nov. 1820 in Buncombe County, NC. The area later became Yancey County. He remained in western NC dying in Cherokee County 24 Dec. 1903. I have seen where some researchers have listed his birth as 1814-1820 and may be confusing two Jesses. I have been unable to find any PATEs in Buncombe County prior to 1830, with the exception of Jesse's father. John Pate served in Capt. Lowry's Co., of the NC Militia under the name of John Randolph (his stepfather's surname). Between the Compiled Military Service Record and the War of 1812 pension application we can place him in Buncombe County (later Yancey) as early as 3 June 1808. Janice Pate Please respect the privacy of other people; do not submit information on living individuals without their permission.

These were half sisters to Robert Conaway Pate Daughters of (Robert) Hamilton Pate and 2nd Ux, Nancy Parker Sarah E Pate 18 md William I Waggoner 21 in Clay Co IL 31 Jul 1881 Malinda C Pate 16 md 1st Joseph Mulvaney 24 in Clay Co IL 23 Nov 1882 Malinda C Pate md 2nd James M Dernall 23 in Clay Co IL 31 Aug 1886 Mary Adaline Pate 24 md Thomas Richey 22 in Clay Co IL 5 Oct 1893

Joel, Thanks for answering. Davis Pate doesn't appear to be a help to me, as I had hoped. Thanks again. Carol Joel Pate wrote: >Carol: >Davis W Pate seems to be part of the Pate line that was in the Caesar Creek Twsp, Dearborn Co, IN and Catlin Twsp, Vermilion Co IL. He is buried in Ionia Twsp, Jewell Co KS. I found no evidence that he spent time in Iowa. > >He had a g/SNL, Mark Welch, and a g/DNL, Netta Hanson, who were born in Iowa, but these were the only Iowa connections I found. > >His individual summary from the GedCom file I am working on provides as follows- > > > >

Jinks: Back on 4/26/2005 your wrote-- Joel - think I can answer a couple of questions for you -- according to "FAMILY LORE" - Robert Hamilton Pate left his wife, Parthena, between 1855-60 - and married Nancy Parker in 1862. Robert H & Nancy had 3 girls, Sarah E, b. 14 Jan 1863; Malinda C, b. ca 1866 and Mary A, b. Aug 1869. Robert H Pate d. 2 May 1869, evidently right before Mary A's birth, if the year of her birth is correct. I do not find the widow, Nancy Pate until 1900 Clay Co, IL. Susan Cecilia "Lollie" Faudree - wife of Robert Conaway Pate - d. 8 Mar 1870 of typhoid fever, so she was probably not in the 1870 census. Robert C Pate & wife, Mary "Mamie" are in 1880 Madison Co, IL. Jinks Some notes on the three daughters of (Robert) Hamilton Pate and 2nd ux Nancy Parker Sarah Pate b 14 Jan 1863 - nothing further Malinda C Pate b 1866 md Joseph Mulvaney in Clay Co IL 23 Nov 1882 Mary A Pate b Aug 1869 md a Mr Magner well before Apr 1890 in Clay Co IL I've got about 15 pages of notes on this line and I'm still looking for a basic GedCom file on it. I'm lazy and don't want to pound all of this in a GedCom file it I can help it. Joel MALINDA C PATE md JOSEPH MULVANEY in CLAY Co IL 23 NOV 1882

Carol: Davis W Pate seems to be part of the Pate line that was in the Caesar Creek Twsp, Dearborn Co, IN and Catlin Twsp, Vermilion Co IL. He is buried in Ionia Twsp, Jewell Co KS. I found no evidence that he spent time in Iowa. He had a g/SNL, Mark Welch, and a g/DNL, Netta Hanson, who were born in Iowa, but these were the only Iowa connections I found. His individual summary from the GedCom file I am working on provides as follows- Joel Name: Davis W PATE Sex: Male Individual Facts Birth 23 Jun 1823 Dearborn Co., IN Census 1850 (age 27) Vermilion Co., IL Census 1860 (age 37) Vermilion Co., IL Census 1870 (age 47) Vermilion Co., IL Census 1880 (age 57) Jewell Co., KS Death 6 Apr 1883 (age 59) Jewell Co., KS Burial 8 Apr 1883 Jewell Co., KS Marriages/Children 1. Mary Ann PATTERSON Marriage 20 Jun 1841 (age 17) Vermilion Co., IL Children: Squire Johnson PATE (15 Oct 1845 - 8 Jan 1927) Lewis Franklin PATE (Feb 1847 - 30 Jun 1900) Elizabeth Indiana PATE (1 Feb 1848 - 26 Dec 1906) Agnes PATE (1850 - ) Bird PATE (20 Jul 1852 - 29 Sep 1901) Scott M PATE (19 Apr 1855 - 29 May 1927) 2. Sarah A SNOW Marriage 25 Oct 1860 (age 37) Vermilion Co., IL Divorce bef Nov 1878 (age 55) Children: Lucien PATE (1866 - bef 1880) Lizzie Leota PATE (12 Oct 1867 - ) 3. Berthula A Rebeckah JEFFERSON Marriage 27 Nov 1878 (age 55) Jewell Co., KS Notes (Individual) Census (1850): Page 363, Dist 21, site 119/119 Census (1860): Page 350-351, Catlin Twsp, Danville PO, site 709/709 Census (1870): Page 59, Catlin, site 11/11 Census (1880): Enum Dist 129, sheet 11, Ionia, site 105/105 Burial (8 Apr 1883): Ionia Cemetery, Jewell Co., KS

Jinks, I should have added that if Davis Pate was related to Jacob or Henry Pate, I am wondering if he removed to Jewell, KS from IA. Perhaps the Pate and Wilson families came together. I already know that the Barkley family moved with Thomas Wilson to Jewell. Carol Carol wrote: > Hi Jinks > > I am (forever) trying to find something on my Jesse Pate. He married > Loucretia Edwards in Macon Co, IL in 1836. They moved along with her > parents to JoDavis Co, IL which was the Wisconsin Territory (1838). > They all removed to Jackson Co, IA. Unfortunately, he died in 1848 > and he only had two children. Not much family to follow. But, I am > trying to find his parents. Supposedly, he was born in Buncombe, NC > abt 1814. > > Anyway, Jacob Pate who removed from Dearborn Co, IN to JoDavis Co to > Jones Co, IA. He married Emma Hamilton in 1832/33 (I have you as > source on that). I have his birth year as Abt 1790. Jacob had a > brother Henry who was in Dearborn Co, IN to Dubuque Co, IA in 1840. > Both were vets of the War of 1812. > > I have nothing that proves that Jacob, Jesse and Henry are linked, but > can't help but feel that they are. Still searching. > > Aanother reason I was so interested in Davis - one he was from > Dearborn Co and because he was in Jewell Co, KS - you say in 1880. My > 3gr grandfather Thomas Jefferson Wilson left Jackson Co, IA and > removed to Jewell Co, KS. His family is listed in the 1880 census. > Thomas was born in Decatur Co, IN. I have a couple family lines from > that area of IN. > > Carol > > Jinks Lee wrote: > >> Carol - noticed your note to Joel - Davis W Pate was b. 22 Jun 1823 >> in Dearborn Co, IN. He d. 16 Apr 1883 in >> Ionia, Jewell Co, KS. He was in Vermilion Co, IN from >> 1850 to 1870, and 1880 was in Jewell Co, KS. >> There were several Jacob's and Henry's in these >> families - do you have dates on the ones you are looking for?? >> Jinks >> >> Jinks Pate Lee >> jinksp@juno.com >> Pate Webpage >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm >> My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16 >> >> >> >> > > >

Hi Jinks I am (forever) trying to find something on my Jesse Pate. He married Loucretia Edwards in Macon Co, IL in 1836. They moved along with her parents to JoDavis Co, IL which was the Wisconsin Territory (1838). They all removed to Jackson Co, IA. Unfortunately, he died in 1848 and he only had two children. Not much family to follow. But, I am trying to find his parents. Supposedly, he was born in Buncombe, NC abt 1814. Anyway, Jacob Pate who removed from Dearborn Co, IN to JoDavis Co to Jones Co, IA. He married Emma Hamilton in 1832/33 (I have you as source on that). I have his birth year as Abt 1790. Jacob had a brother Henry who was in Dearborn Co, IN to Dubuque Co, IA in 1840. Both were vets of the War of 1812. I have nothing that proves that Jacob, Jesse and Henry are linked, but can't help but feel that they are. Still searching. Aanother reason I was so interested in Davis - one he was from Dearborn Co and because he was in Jewell Co, KS - you say in 1880. My 3gr grandfather Thomas Jefferson Wilson left Jackson Co, IA and removed to Jewell Co, KS. His family is listed in the 1880 census. Thomas was born in Decatur Co, IN. I have a couple family lines from that area of IN. Carol Jinks Lee wrote: >Carol - noticed your note to Joel - Davis W Pate was >b. 22 Jun 1823 in Dearborn Co, IN. He d. 16 Apr 1883 in >Ionia, Jewell Co, KS. He was in Vermilion Co, IN from >1850 to 1870, and 1880 was in Jewell Co, KS. > There were several Jacob's and Henry's in these >families - do you have dates on the ones you are >looking for?? >Jinks > >Jinks Pate Lee >jinksp@juno.com >Pate Webpage >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm >My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16 > > > >

Carol - noticed your note to Joel - Davis W Pate was b. 22 Jun 1823 in Dearborn Co, IN. He d. 16 Apr 1883 in Ionia, Jewell Co, KS. He was in Vermilion Co, IN from 1850 to 1870, and 1880 was in Jewell Co, KS. There were several Jacob's and Henry's in these families - do you have dates on the ones you are looking for?? Jinks Jinks Pate Lee jinksp@juno.com Pate Webpage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16

Hi Joel, Some questions regarding this line: Do you know where your Davis Pate might have been born? Is he connected to Jacob and Henry Pate of that area? Also, what time period was this family in Jewell, KS? And in what town of Jewell Co? Thanks. Carol Joel Pate wrote: >Following is a descendant chart for Davis W Pate. >Can you add or correct anything? >Especially interested in marriage and grave data. > >This line is rooted in >Dearborn Co IN -Vermilion Co IL-Jewell Co KS > >and spread to other places including: >Denver Co CO Shoshone Co ID Cook Co IL Kane Co IL >Fayette Co IL DuPage Co IL Ellsworth Co KS Cloud Co KS >Gray Co KS Humbolt Co KS Mitchell Co KS Osborne Co KS >Riley Co KS Shawnee Co KS St Clair Co MO Hamilton Co OH >Cherokee Co OK Jackson Co OK Tarrant Co TX Garfield Co WA >Hill Co WA Lewis Co WA Multnomah Co WA Whitman Co WA > >1-Davis W PATE (23 Jun 1823-6 Apr 1883) >sp-Mary Ann PATTERSON (25 Jul 1827-20 Apr 1860) >.2-Squire Johnson PATE (15 Oct 1845-8 Jan 1927) >.sp-Mary Catherine PATTERSON (26 Mar 1847-12 Apr 1883) >. 3-Thomas E PATE (Nov 1867-Oct 1868) >. 3-Davis W PATE (Apr 1871-8 Oct 1871) >. 3-Anna Laura PATE (10 Sep 1872-15 Sep 1933) >. sp-John Andrew Rosecrans Benefield Jackson SEARS (23 Nov 1865-21 Nov 1962) >. .4-Grace SEARS (23 Dec 1889-28 Jul 1964) >. .4-Lottie Mable SEARS (26 Jul 1892-9 Mar 1941) >. .4-John Milton SEARS (19 Feb 1894-May 1980) >. .4-Samuel Floyd SEARS (7 Mar 1896-19 Apr 1996) >. .4-Cecil Ellsworth SEARS (25 May 1900-9 Jun 1988) >. .4-Anna Pearl SEARS (17 Jan 1903-Dec 1983) >. .4-Lloyd Buford SEARS (21 Nov 1904-10 Mar 2000) >. .4-Harold Pate SEARS (18 Jan 1907-14 May 1989) >. .4-Fay Elmo SEARS (4 Dec 1908-19 Sep 1970) >. .4-Laura Mildred SEARS (29 Dec 1911-) >. .4-Merton SEARS (abt 1915-) >. .4-Meryl Lynn SEARS (29 Mar 1917-23 Oct 1983) >. 3-Samuel Scott PATE (10 May 1874-) >. sp-Elvere PARRISH (-) >. .4-Cecil PATE (-) >. .4-Carroll PATE (-) >. sp-Netta F HANSON (23 Nov 1874-) >. 3-Letty PATE (Dec 1880-1881) >. 3-PATE (abt 12 Apr 1883-18 Apr 1883) >.sp-Sarah Bell SEARS (-) >. 3-Ralph Amos PATE (12 Feb 1885-) >. sp-Anna M SELL (1887-) >. .4-Vernon W PATE (23 Aug 1906-Sep 1979) >. .sp-Bernice V UNKNOWN (11 Jan 1910-Dec 1987) >. .4-Ralph Amos PATE Jr (abt 1908-) >. .4-Annabelle PATE (4 May 1910-29 Apr 1982) >. .sp-Mr. SIEGAR (28 Feb 1906-) >. .sp-James Lauren COMBEST (25 Feb 1906-Oct 1981) >. .4-Arthur PATE (27 Oct 1913-Jan 1969) >. .4-Ruth PATE (abt 1915-) >. .4-Margaret PATE (abt 1917-) >. .4-David F PATE (19 Feb 1918-24 Jan 1998) >. 3-Ruby Agnes PATE (5 Apr 1887-) >. 3-Frederica Indiana PATE (7 Dec 1887-) >.2-Lewis Franklin PATE (Feb 1847-30 Jun 1900) >.sp-Eliza HOUSE (6 Jul 1851-4 Mar 1929) >. 3-Elmer PATE (May 1870-bef 1880) >. 3-Flora PATE (May 1870-) >. sp-Mark P WELCH (Dec 1866-) >. .4-Pearl WELCH (Sep 1889-) >. .4-Ada A WELCH (Jan 1891-) >. .4-Orna D WELCH (Jan 1893-) >. .4-Harry C WELCH (Mar 1899-) >. 3-Oscar PATE (1872-) >. sp-Litta UNKNOWN (1881-) >. .4-Estille PATE (abt 1900-) >. 3-Arthur PATE (Jun 1873-) >. sp-Nannie UNKNOWN (abt 1878-) >. .4-Vernon PATE (1900-) >. .4-Virginia A PATE (1902-) >. .4-Glea PATE (1909-) >. .sp-James G PINNEY (1905-) >. . 5-Bruce PINNEY (1928-) >. 3-Bird PATE (1 Jul 1881-28 Jan 1932) >. sp-Olive May MORROW (24 Nov 1881-11 Apr 1983) >. .4-Joseph Virgil PATE (20 Jul 1905-22 Mar 1978) >. .sp-Goldie Mae AULT (29 Apr 1914-29 Jun 1988) >. . 5-Richard PATE (abt 1931-abt 1939) >. . 5-Alice Loraine PATE (9 Aug 1934-23 Apr 1999) >. . sp-Virgil G SEAY (31 Jan 1916-17 Jan 1998) >. . 5-Melvin PATE (2 Jan 1942-1 Jun 2000) >. .4-Neil Franklin PATE (24 Jul 1917-16 Sep 1962) >. .4-Margaret Anne PATE (24 Oct 1920-25 Apr 1991) >. .sp-William H ORMSBEE Sr (2 Feb 1916-26 Jul 2000) >.2-Elizabeth Indiana PATE (1 Feb 1848-26 Dec 1906) >.sp-Ithamore Earll DOUGLASS (2 Nov 1844-26 Feb 1927) >. 3-Mary Delila DOUGLASS (18 Feb 1868-) >. 3-Steart DOUGLASS (22 Aug 1870-) >. 3-Alvus DOUGLASS (17 Sep 1873-) >. 3-George Pate DOUGLASS (1 Jul 1875-) >. 3-Agnes DOUGLASS (8 Jun 1877-) >. 3-Pearl May DOUGLASS (29 Sep 1883-) >.2-Agnes PATE (1850-) >.sp-David H RHODES (-) >.2-Bird PATE (20 Jul 1852-29 Sep 1901) >.sp-Clara Lucretia BANTA (1862-4 Dec 1905) >. 3-Hester Rachel (Hessie) PATE (7 Nov 1879-20 May 1928) >. sp-William Samuel FULLERTON (-) >. 3-Everett D PATE (Feb 1882-31 Jan 1902) >. 3-Florence Ethel PATE (Feb 1884-) >. 3-James Orville (Dick) PATE (8 Apr 1886-25 Oct 1934) >. 3-Ray Amory PATE (23 Apr 1889-25 Oct 1934) >. sp-Erma UNKNOWN (1892-) >. 3-Rae E (Roxy) PATE (23 Apr 1889-20 Aug 1970) >. 3-Agnes Elizabeth (Aggie) PATE (20 Jan 1891-3 Apr 1959) >. 3-Lenna Mary (Linnie) PATE (5 May 1893-May 1969) >. 3-Emery Frederick PATE (5 Feb 1896-8 Apr 1969) >. sp-Cloy UNKNOWN (1897-) >. .4-Charlotte PATE (abt 1921-) >. .4-Glen PATE (abt 1922-) >. .4-Joel Bird PATE (1 Jul 1923-11 Sep 1997) >. 3-Elmer Theodore PATE (5 Feb 1896-) >. 3-Birdie Isabelle PATE (1 Nov 1898-31 Mar 1947) >. sp-Charles N GRINSTEAD (1894-) >.2-Scott M PATE (19 Apr 1855-29 May 1927) >.sp-Alice Viola COOK (12 Jan 1856-14 Nov 1878) >. 3-Ira PATE (1878-1879) >.sp-Elizabeth F RHOADES (1858-1893) >. 3-Mabel L PATE (1885-) >. 3-Chester D PATE (1889-1892) >. 3-Elizabeth S PATE (aft 1889-) >.sp-Dora S McGehee WHITE (Feb 1870-18 Oct 1943) >sp-Sarah A SNOW (1825-aft 1880) >.2-Lucien PATE (1866-bef 1880) >.2-Lizzie Leota PATE (12 Oct 1867-) >sp-Berthula A Rebeckah JEFFERSON (27 Jun 1832-) > > > >

Following is a descendant chart for Davis W Pate. Can you add or correct anything? Especially interested in marriage and grave data. This line is rooted in Dearborn Co IN -Vermilion Co IL-Jewell Co KS and spread to other places including: Denver Co CO Shoshone Co ID Cook Co IL Kane Co IL Fayette Co IL DuPage Co IL Ellsworth Co KS Cloud Co KS Gray Co KS Humbolt Co KS Mitchell Co KS Osborne Co KS Riley Co KS Shawnee Co KS St Clair Co MO Hamilton Co OH Cherokee Co OK Jackson Co OK Tarrant Co TX Garfield Co WA Hill Co WA Lewis Co WA Multnomah Co WA Whitman Co WA 1-Davis W PATE (23 Jun 1823-6 Apr 1883) sp-Mary Ann PATTERSON (25 Jul 1827-20 Apr 1860) .2-Squire Johnson PATE (15 Oct 1845-8 Jan 1927) .sp-Mary Catherine PATTERSON (26 Mar 1847-12 Apr 1883) . 3-Thomas E PATE (Nov 1867-Oct 1868) . 3-Davis W PATE (Apr 1871-8 Oct 1871) . 3-Anna Laura PATE (10 Sep 1872-15 Sep 1933) . sp-John Andrew Rosecrans Benefield Jackson SEARS (23 Nov 1865-21 Nov 1962) . .4-Grace SEARS (23 Dec 1889-28 Jul 1964) . .4-Lottie Mable SEARS (26 Jul 1892-9 Mar 1941) . .4-John Milton SEARS (19 Feb 1894-May 1980) . .4-Samuel Floyd SEARS (7 Mar 1896-19 Apr 1996) . .4-Cecil Ellsworth SEARS (25 May 1900-9 Jun 1988) . .4-Anna Pearl SEARS (17 Jan 1903-Dec 1983) . .4-Lloyd Buford SEARS (21 Nov 1904-10 Mar 2000) . .4-Harold Pate SEARS (18 Jan 1907-14 May 1989) . .4-Fay Elmo SEARS (4 Dec 1908-19 Sep 1970) . .4-Laura Mildred SEARS (29 Dec 1911-) . .4-Merton SEARS (abt 1915-) . .4-Meryl Lynn SEARS (29 Mar 1917-23 Oct 1983) . 3-Samuel Scott PATE (10 May 1874-) . sp-Elvere PARRISH (-) . .4-Cecil PATE (-) . .4-Carroll PATE (-) . sp-Netta F HANSON (23 Nov 1874-) . 3-Letty PATE (Dec 1880-1881) . 3-PATE (abt 12 Apr 1883-18 Apr 1883) .sp-Sarah Bell SEARS (-) . 3-Ralph Amos PATE (12 Feb 1885-) . sp-Anna M SELL (1887-) . .4-Vernon W PATE (23 Aug 1906-Sep 1979) . .sp-Bernice V UNKNOWN (11 Jan 1910-Dec 1987) . .4-Ralph Amos PATE Jr (abt 1908-) . .4-Annabelle PATE (4 May 1910-29 Apr 1982) . .sp-Mr. SIEGAR (28 Feb 1906-) . .sp-James Lauren COMBEST (25 Feb 1906-Oct 1981) . .4-Arthur PATE (27 Oct 1913-Jan 1969) . .4-Ruth PATE (abt 1915-) . .4-Margaret PATE (abt 1917-) . .4-David F PATE (19 Feb 1918-24 Jan 1998) . 3-Ruby Agnes PATE (5 Apr 1887-) . 3-Frederica Indiana PATE (7 Dec 1887-) .2-Lewis Franklin PATE (Feb 1847-30 Jun 1900) .sp-Eliza HOUSE (6 Jul 1851-4 Mar 1929) . 3-Elmer PATE (May 1870-bef 1880) . 3-Flora PATE (May 1870-) . sp-Mark P WELCH (Dec 1866-) . .4-Pearl WELCH (Sep 1889-) . .4-Ada A WELCH (Jan 1891-) . .4-Orna D WELCH (Jan 1893-) . .4-Harry C WELCH (Mar 1899-) . 3-Oscar PATE (1872-) . sp-Litta UNKNOWN (1881-) . .4-Estille PATE (abt 1900-) . 3-Arthur PATE (Jun 1873-) . sp-Nannie UNKNOWN (abt 1878-) . .4-Vernon PATE (1900-) . .4-Virginia A PATE (1902-) . .4-Glea PATE (1909-) . .sp-James G PINNEY (1905-) . . 5-Bruce PINNEY (1928-) . 3-Bird PATE (1 Jul 1881-28 Jan 1932) . sp-Olive May MORROW (24 Nov 1881-11 Apr 1983) . .4-Joseph Virgil PATE (20 Jul 1905-22 Mar 1978) . .sp-Goldie Mae AULT (29 Apr 1914-29 Jun 1988) . . 5-Richard PATE (abt 1931-abt 1939) . . 5-Alice Loraine PATE (9 Aug 1934-23 Apr 1999) . . sp-Virgil G SEAY (31 Jan 1916-17 Jan 1998) . . 5-Melvin PATE (2 Jan 1942-1 Jun 2000) . .4-Neil Franklin PATE (24 Jul 1917-16 Sep 1962) . .4-Margaret Anne PATE (24 Oct 1920-25 Apr 1991) . .sp-William H ORMSBEE Sr (2 Feb 1916-26 Jul 2000) .2-Elizabeth Indiana PATE (1 Feb 1848-26 Dec 1906) .sp-Ithamore Earll DOUGLASS (2 Nov 1844-26 Feb 1927) . 3-Mary Delila DOUGLASS (18 Feb 1868-) . 3-Steart DOUGLASS (22 Aug 1870-) . 3-Alvus DOUGLASS (17 Sep 1873-) . 3-George Pate DOUGLASS (1 Jul 1875-) . 3-Agnes DOUGLASS (8 Jun 1877-) . 3-Pearl May DOUGLASS (29 Sep 1883-) .2-Agnes PATE (1850-) .sp-David H RHODES (-) .2-Bird PATE (20 Jul 1852-29 Sep 1901) .sp-Clara Lucretia BANTA (1862-4 Dec 1905) . 3-Hester Rachel (Hessie) PATE (7 Nov 1879-20 May 1928) . sp-William Samuel FULLERTON (-) . 3-Everett D PATE (Feb 1882-31 Jan 1902) . 3-Florence Ethel PATE (Feb 1884-) . 3-James Orville (Dick) PATE (8 Apr 1886-25 Oct 1934) . 3-Ray Amory PATE (23 Apr 1889-25 Oct 1934) . sp-Erma UNKNOWN (1892-) . 3-Rae E (Roxy) PATE (23 Apr 1889-20 Aug 1970) . 3-Agnes Elizabeth (Aggie) PATE (20 Jan 1891-3 Apr 1959) . 3-Lenna Mary (Linnie) PATE (5 May 1893-May 1969) . 3-Emery Frederick PATE (5 Feb 1896-8 Apr 1969) . sp-Cloy UNKNOWN (1897-) . .4-Charlotte PATE (abt 1921-) . .4-Glen PATE (abt 1922-) . .4-Joel Bird PATE (1 Jul 1923-11 Sep 1997) . 3-Elmer Theodore PATE (5 Feb 1896-) . 3-Birdie Isabelle PATE (1 Nov 1898-31 Mar 1947) . sp-Charles N GRINSTEAD (1894-) .2-Scott M PATE (19 Apr 1855-29 May 1927) .sp-Alice Viola COOK (12 Jan 1856-14 Nov 1878) . 3-Ira PATE (1878-1879) .sp-Elizabeth F RHOADES (1858-1893) . 3-Mabel L PATE (1885-) . 3-Chester D PATE (1889-1892) . 3-Elizabeth S PATE (aft 1889-) .sp-Dora S McGehee WHITE (Feb 1870-18 Oct 1943) sp-Sarah A SNOW (1825-aft 1880) .2-Lucien PATE (1866-bef 1880) .2-Lizzie Leota PATE (12 Oct 1867-) sp-Berthula A Rebeckah JEFFERSON (27 Jun 1832-)

Does anyone have any information about the names of the immediate family of Jeremiah Pate (parents or Siblings)? My Pate releatives lived in Bedford, VA during this timeframe. Regards, Chris Pate --- Karen Borden <karenborden@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > I just ran across a Pate marriage and thought > perhaps it may be of interest to someone. This > marriage is shown in a book titled, "Our Kin", the > genealogies of some of the early families who made > history in the founding and development of Bedford > Co VA, c1930 by Mary Ackerly. > > The passage speaks of a John Ragland who came to > Virginia about 1720 and settled upon Mechamps Creek. > > John Ragland md Anne Beaufort > Their nine children: > John, who married Nancy Dudley of Hanover in 1759 > William, who married a Miss Lipscomb > Samuel > James, who married Catherine Davis > Evan, who married ------ and settled in Halifax > County > Pettus, who married Elizabeth, daughter of John > Davis of Hanover County > Martha, who married Thomas Tinsley > Frances, who married Jeremiah Pate > --------, who married a Mr. Bowe. > >

Hi All, I just ran across a Pate marriage and thought perhaps it may be of interest to someone. This marriage is shown in a book titled, "Our Kin", the genealogies of some of the early families who made history in the founding and development of Bedford Co VA, c1930 by Mary Ackerly. The passage speaks of a John Ragland who came to Virginia about 1720 and settled upon Mechamps Creek. John Ragland md Anne Beaufort Their nine children: John, who married Nancy Dudley of Hanover in 1759 William, who married a Miss Lipscomb Samuel James, who married Catherine Davis Evan, who married ------ and settled in Halifax County Pettus, who married Elizabeth, daughter of John Davis of Hanover County Martha, who married Thomas Tinsley Frances, who married Jeremiah Pate --------, who married a Mr. Bowe.

Joel - think I can answer a couple of questions for you -- according to "FAMILY LORE" - Robert Hamilton Pate left his wife, Parthena, between 1855-60 - and married Nancy Parker in 1862. Robert H & Nancy had 3 girls, Sarah E, b. 14 Jan 1863; Malinda C, b. ca 1866 and Mary A, b. Aug 1869. Robert H Pate d. 2 May 1869, evidently right before Mary A's birth, if the year of her birth is correct. I do not find the widow, Nancy Pate until 1900 Clay Co, IL. Susan Cecilia "Lollie" Faudree - wife of Robert Conaway Pate - d. 8 Mar 1870 of typhoid fever, so she was probably not in the 1870 census. Robert C Pate & wife, Mary "Mamie" are in 1880 Madison Co, IL. Jinks Jinks Pate Lee jinksp@juno.com Pate Webpage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16

Joel I am impressed to say the least. I found an obscure article written about Robert C. Pate in Mexico. I will find the web address and foreword it to you. It was quite detailed. Notes: Robert H. Pate and His father both work at scullin steel co. in st. Louis located on Manchester Blvd. Robert H. Pate was indeed married twice as you had indicated with two children from the first marriage before my grandmother. I went to the library downtown and printed out the sept 4th 1914 article about the gambling king. Robert H. Pate ,Robert L. Pate and some of their relatives are buried in the Cavelry Cemetery in St. Louis off of I-70. For others I have found a Pate Family in Monroe County Illinois across the river from St. Louis, buried in an old "Black Cemetery" They where white and are buried on the outer edge of the old cemetery near the Mississippi. It is Jonathan M. Pate and his two young daughters who died shortly after he was buried and their mother remarried. The wife's name was Anna who married Thomas Bevers and became Anna Bevers. The two daughters were Mary and Parmecai Pate both died around 10 years old I have a copy of the estate sale that Thomas Bevers held on August 2nd 1862. Thank you so very much for your detailed work Say a prayer for Jinks Michael

Michael: In my OPINION- You ancestor, Robert Conaway Pate 6 Dec 1838 - 4 Sep 1914, was the son of (Robert) Hamilton Pate and Parthenia Conaway. You will see the name Parthenia used for female descendants of this family. (Robert) Hamilton Pate married Parthenia Conaway in Dearborn Co IN 23 May 1833. See Dearborn Co IN Marriages, Book 2, Page 412. The 5 Sep 1914 obituary of Robert C Pate in the St. Louis (MO) Dispatch refers to Dillboro and Lawrenceville, IN. These are apparently two townships in Dearborn Co, IN and are actually Dillsboro and Lawrenceburg. Dillsboro is in southern Dearborn Co IN on US Highway 50 north of Laughley River, which is the county line between Dearborn and Ohio counties. Lawrenceburg is in west-central Dearborn Co near the Ohio River. There is a Lawrenceville in Dearborn Co, IN on the I-74 corridor. I believe that the PATE families in question were in the southern end of Dearborn Co during the 1835-1855 era, BUT they could have also been in other townships in Dearborn Co. (Robert) Hamilton Pate was enumerated in the 1840 census of Dearborn Co IN, page 92, line 8, No Township Listed. As you know, there was no family detail provided in the 1840 and earlier federal decennial censuses. Only the heads of household were identified by name. There were six individuals numbered in the household of Hamilton Pate in the 1840, five males and one female. Two males age 5 or less, 1 male age 5 to 10, 1 male age 15 to 20 and 1 male age 20 to 30, The sole female was age 20 to 30. The 1850 census of Ohio Co IN gives us a much better view of this family. We see, at page 335, 2nd District, site 582/600 Hamilton Pate-34 W/M--OH 1816 Parthena Pate-38 W/F--NY 1821 Charles Pate--15 W/M--IN 1835 James R Pate--13 W/M--IN 1837 Robert Pate---11 W/M--IN 1839 Eda Pate------ 5 W/F--IN 1845 Hamilton Pate- 3 W/M--IN 1847 William Pate-- 1 W/M--IN 1849 Robert C Pate at age 11 was still living with his father and mother. I would surmise that (Robert) Hamilton Pate, the father of Robert Conaway Pate died after the 1850 census and before the 1860 census. Robert Conaway Pate married the first of his three wives, Adaline B English, in Dearborn Co IN 15 Apr 1857. See Dearborn Co IN Marriages, Book 9, Page 318. Family history indicates that Robert Conaway Pate subsequently married Lola Fandree (date and location not yet verified) and that he finally married Mary A Cullinan 21 Mar 1875 in St Louis Co, MO. Robert Conaway Pate and his wife Adaline B English were enumerated in the 1860 census of Dearborn Co IN. See Page 77, Lawrenceburg Twsp, site 518/567-8 There two families in one household. Michael Echart--27 W/M--France 1833 Susan Echart----21 W/F--Ire 1839 Charles Echart-- 3 W/M--IN 1857 Robert C Pate---21 W/M--IN 1839 Adeline Pate----19 W/F--IN 1841 Michael Echart was a shoemaker by trade. Robert C Pate was a telegrapher. I have no research on the relationship of these two young families. As noted earlier, I believe that (Robert) Hamilton Pate, the father of Robert Conaway Pate, died after the 1850 census. This is, in part, supported by the 1860 census of Dearborn Co IN, Page 243, Clay Township site 254/254 John Conaway-------50 W/M--0H 1810 Amirck Conaway-----45 W/F--IN 1815 Susuan Conaway-----24 W/F--IN 1834 Rachel Conaway-----22 W/F--IN 1838 James Conaway------14 W/M--IN 1846 Sencalaty Conaway--12 W/F--IN 1848 Samuel Conoway-----10 W/M--IN 1850 Penethany Pate-----45 W/F--IN 1815 Eathan Pate--------18 W/F--IN 1842 Hamilton Pate------14 W/M--IN 1846 William Pate-------12 W/M--IN 1848 Pennathay Pate----- 8 W/F--IN 1852 Henry C Pate------- 5 W/M--IN 1855 Apparently, Parthenia Conaway Pate, widow of (Robert) Hamilton Pate, was residing with a brother, John Conaway, and his family. This may be the uncle with whom Robert Conaway Pate resided Robert Conaway Pate had a younger brother named Hamilton Pate who was born about 1846. This Hamilton Pate shows up in both the 1850 and 1860 census as outlined. There is a Clay Co IN marriage record that raises some questions. The marriage, recorded at Clay Co Marriages Book B, Page 212 on 30 Mar 1862 was between Hamilton Pate and Nancy Jane Parker. Was this Hamilton Pate the father of Robert Conaway Pate, the younger brother of Robert Conaway Pate or another kinsman of Robert Conaway Pate? There are some military records that indicate that Robert Conaway Pate served as a Lieutenant with Company K, 142nd Indiana Infantry Regiment, US Volunteers, in the Civil War. I have no research on the individual or regimental histories of this unit. One last note on Hamilton Pate, the younger brother of Robert Conaway Pate. The 1870 census of Ohio Co IN, page 418B, Union Twsp, Hartford PO, site 34/36 has this household. Milley Alden-----19 W/F --------------IN 1853 Hamilton Pate----24 W/M Farmer--------IN 1846 Margaret Pate----25 W/F Keeps House---IN 1845 Daniel Pate------2m W/M [Mar]---------IN 1870 Ellinor Werts----45 W/F House Keeper--IN 1825 Is this Hamilton Pate the younger brother of Robert Conaway Pate or perhaps some other Hamilton Pate? Back to Robert Conaway Pate and on to St Louis, MO. We know from a couple of sources that Robert Conaway Pate arrived in St Louis Co MO about 1867, following the close of the Civil War. We also know that he had some connection with a Hotel-Saloon-Gambling Hall known as the Planters House or Planters Hotel. Interesting census enumeration in 1870 in St. Louis County/City. Page 253A, St Louis, East Division, 6th Ward, Planter House Hotel R C Pate------34 W/M Saloon Keeper---NY 1836 Henry Pate----42 W/M Saloon Keeper---NY 1828 It is my belief that this was Robert Conaway Pate and an older cousin named Daniel Henry Pate or Henry Daniel Pate. The NY place of birth was probably an erroneous notation. Where was Lola Fandree? I haven't a clue. St Louis Co MO marriage records Robert C Pate md Mary A Cullinan in St Louis Co 21 Mar 1875. Record not yet verified. The 1880 Census of St Louis County/City MO is a confusing mess. Lots of missed families. Some families were recorded twice and even three times. I've found nothing in the 1880 census on Robert C Pate, but I did find these rather odd records that show a link between the PATE and CULLINAN surnames ED 57/4, St Louis, site 22/37 Henry Pate------25 W/M Head MD Bartender---IN/IN/IN 1855 Hannah Pate-----22 W/F Wife MD-------------MN/IRE/IRE 1858 Blanch Pate----- 1 W/F Dau SGL-------------MO/IN/MN 1879 Sarah Cullinan--18 W/F Sist SGL------------MN/IRE/IRE 1862 ALSO ED 21/39, St Louis 4th Ward , site 236/312 Henry Pate-----------26 W/M Head Clerk--------IN/IN/IN 1854 Annie Pate-----------22 W/F Wife Keeps House--PA/PA/PA 1858 Blanche Pate--------- 1 W/F Dau --------------MO/IN/PA 1879 Ernestina Cullinen---26 W/F Si/N/L------------NY/NY/NY 1854 ALSO page 446 Henry Pate------25 W/M Head Bartender----IN/IN/IN 1855 Hannah Pate-----22 W/F Wife Keeps House--MN/IRE/IRE 1858 Sarah Cullimen--18 W/F Si/N/L------------MN/IRE/IRE 1862 Blanch Pate----- 1 W/F Dau --------------MO/IN/MN 1879 Yours research indicates that Robert Conaway Pate and Lola Fandree had a son named Robert L Pate (b 14 Feb 1874 d 1924) and that this Robert L Pate married Katherine J Heatherman (b 2 May 1870 d 1943) in St Louis Co MO. Robert L Pate married Katherine J Heatherman abt 1891 in St Louis Co MO. Robert L Pate (1874-1924) lived in St Louis Co MO, briefly in Mexico with his father, Robert Conaway Pate (1836-1914), in St Francois Co MO and briefly in Oklahoma. The 1900 census of St Francois Co MO, Page 80, Enumeration Dist 92, sheet 25, Pendeleton Twsp, site 476/485 has the following Robert Pate-------30 W/M HEAD MD DAY LABOR--MO/IN/MO FEB 1870 Katherine J Pate--30 W/F WIFE MD 9y 3/3-----MO/IRE/IRE MAY 1870 Carmelita L Pate-- 4 W/F DAU SGL------------MO/MO/MO SEP 1895 Robert H Pate----- 3 W/M SON SGL------------MEX/MO/MO JAN 1897 Parthenia E Pate--1m W/F DAU SGL------------MEX/MO/MO APR 1900 William Kelly-----21 W/M NEPH SGL LABOR-----MO/ENG/ENG OCT 1878 Two children, Robert Heatherman Pate (b Jan 1897) and Parthenia E Pate (b Apr 1900) were born in Mexico during the time Robert L Pate was there with his father Robert Conaway Pate. The 1910 census of St Louis co MO, page 17, Enumeration Dist 373, sheet 4, St Louis Independent City, site 76/81 has the following Robert L Pate----40 W/M HEAD MD INSURANCE AGT---MO/IN/OH 1870 Catherene J Pate-40 W/F WIFE MD 19 6/6----------MO/MO/MO 1870 Carmelita L Pate-14 W/F DAU SGL-----------------MO/MO/MO 1896 Robert H Pate----13 W/M SON SGL-----------------MX/MO/MO 1897 Parthenia Pate--- 8 W/F DAU SGL-----------------MX/MO/MO 1902 William C Pate--- 7 W/M SON SGL-----------------MO/MO/MO 1903 Marie K Pate----- 5 W/F DAU SGL-----------------MO/MO/MO 1905 Loretta A Pate--- 2 W/F DAU SGL-----------------INDTER/MO/MO 1908 Daughter Loretta A Pate was born during a time when Robert H Pate and family were residing in Oklahoma (Indian Territory). They did return to St Louis Co MO and lived at 6224 Bertold Street in St Louis. The 1920 census of St Louis Co MO, Enumeration Dist 469, sheet 6A, St Louis Independent City, site 104/134 has the following Robert L Pate-----49 W/M HEAD MD SHPG CLK STEEL CO---MO/VA/IN 1871 Katherine J Pate--49 W/F WIFE MD --------------------MO/IRE/IRE 18 Robert H Pate-----22 W/M SON SGL BKKPR STEEL CO------MX/MO/MO 1898 Pathenia Pate-----19 W/F DAU SGL BKKPR DY GOODS------MX/MO/MO 1901 William C Pate----17 W/M SON SGL --------------------MO/MO/MO 1903 Marie R Pate------15 W/F DAU SGL --------------------MO/MO/MO 1905 Laretta Pate------12 W/F DAU SGL --------------------OK/MO/MO 1908 Your grandfather, Robert Heatherman Pate (1897-1975) principally was employed in the steel industry. He perhaps married twice. First to Bernice (b MO) abt 1928 and second to Gurtrude Arnett (b TX). Some 1930 census records ED 96-153/12, St Louis IC, site 170/196 Katherine Pate--60 W/F HEAD WD MD @20--------------MO/ENG/ENG 1870 William J Pate--27 W/M SON SGL CASHIER STEEL CO----MO/MO/MO 1893 Maria K Pate----25 W/F DAU SGL STENO PHONE CO------MO/MO/MO 1895 6224 BERTOLD STREET ED 96-155/5B, St Louis IC, site 71/86 Robert Pate----33 W/M HEAD MD @30 TIMEKEEPER STEEL CO---MX/MO/MO 1897 Bernice Pate---23 W/F WIFE MD @21-----------------------MO/KY/KY 1907 4927A WISE AVENUE [MX-MEXICO-AM CIT] ED 96-204/1A, St Louis IC, site Catholic convent/school Parthenia Pate---29 W/F INMATE TEACHER PARISH SCHOOL---MEX/MO/MO 1901 DOMINICAN SISTERS [MEX-AM CIT] Notes There may be typo and transcription errors as well as omissions in the foregoing. For example, a child born and died between census enumeration may have been omitted. Some events have not yet been documented or verified. I have a very little bit of post 1930 data on this line, but because some individuals are still living, that data will not be presented in a public venue. You inquired if this line was French or Irish. In my view this line was English and Virginian in origin. There were two major Pate lines from France that settled in Indiana, but these families were in Monroe and Harrison counties, not Dearborn County. Joel

Thank you Janice, it just had a funny smell when I read the offer. This list is just wonderful for any type information related to family history. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Pate" <pate_news@hotmail.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 7:13 AM Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] MyTrees.com >I looked into MyTrees.com and after spending two hours looking for their >privacy policy or physical address I quit. Having PO Box addresses and no >Privacy Policy sends up a RED FLAG. > > MyTrees is connected to Kindred Connections which has several "paid" sites > containing little more than links to free sites. > > See what the Genealogy Hall of Shame has to say about MyTrees.com. > > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/shame/promises.htm#mytrees > > > > > > > Please respect the privacy of other people; do not submit information on > living individuals without their permission. > >

Dear Jinks, You are in my prayers, as well. Tarrie Pate ----- Original Message ----- From: Jinks Lee To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Pate/Hail Hi Margaret - haven't heard from you in a while - I'm still kicking too - but just learned I have ovarian cancer, so am going thru chemo, etc - so far, so good!! No real problems. I've been going back over my files and trying to update where I can. One thing we were discussing was the marriage of L A Pate & C C Surles. I finally found some census records on them, if you don't have them 1910 Henderson Co, TX JOHN C Surles, age 54, md (2) 29 yrs; TX/TN/TN Lucy A Surles, age 54, md (1) 29 yrs; TX/GA/GA Andrew D Surles, age 19 Willie V Surles, age 17 (female) 1920 Henderson Co, TX CHRISTOPHER C Surles, age 63; TX/TN/TN Lucy A Surles, age 63; TX/US/US I could not find the family in 1900. Can't imagine why he was listed as John, then as Christopher, or maybe he had 3 "front" names. Also in the 1880 Henderson Co, TX Thomas Miller, age 23 Amanda Miller, age 30, wife Lucy Pate, age 22, sis-in-law Mittie Pate, age 14, sis-in-law (I was given her name as Mary Almittie Pate - md William V Holt -see 1900 census Ella Pate, age 11, step dau Jefferson Pate, age 9, step son Ophilla Pate, age 7, step dau J B Pate, age 5, step son Lucy & Mittie would be sisters of Amanda's first husband, Green Berry Pate - the step children would be children of Amanda & Green Berry Pate. Think we had quite a discussion on these families- what do you think on this?? Jinks Jinks Pate Lee jinksp@juno.com Pate Webpage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16