While doing some research at the library, I found some pieces of PATE info that I hope will be of help to someone. Typed with abbreviations as written. p 246, "The Georgia Land Lottery Papers, 1805-1914" Baldwin Co: Lot 181-2-3 Cherokee. Pers. came Samuel Pate to claim lot 181-2-3 as Ex'r. of the estate of Stephen Day, dec'd. Signed Samuel Pate before Alfred M. Horton, N. P., 16 Jan 1843. ---------------------- "Early Georgia Marriage Roundup" by Maddox p 179 Dooley Co, Early Marriage Book C Pate, Elijah A - Sallie Clements 2-20-1879 Pate, Joseph - Joine ? Davis 11-30-1876 Pate, Samuel - Nancy Pitts 7-28-1881 - - - - - p 139 Forsyth Co Pate, Butler - Elizar Blackwell 3-2-1845 - - - - - p 43 Macon Co Pate, Jacob - Frances Shepherd 1876 - - - - - p 326 Crawford Co Pate, Berry - Susan Connors 10-6-1836 - - - - - p 194 Irwin Co Pate, James D - Rachel E Wheddon 5-11-1865 Pate, James D - Elizabeth Clements 1-16-1870 - - - - - p 271 Stewart Co Pate, Thomas - Susan Williams 10-6-1831 Carol

i'll see if i can find out anything. sam

I am searching for the father and grandfather of Charles Raeburn Pate(1765-1836). I am descended from Isham Pate of Walker County Alabama. I would appreciate any information available. Clarence W. Pate

Charles Raeburn Pate(1765-1836). I am searching for the ancestors of Charles Raeburn Pate. I am descended from Isham Pate of Walker CountyuAlabama. Any information or direction anyone can provide will be appreciated. Clarence Wade Pate 1935

Hello everyone, Interesting discussion.. I would like to ask if anyone would send me the names, dates, locations, etc., of all the other siblings of Willoughby, son of Shadrack. This is what I have below. I only have the sons. I would like to point out that Penelope was known as Pennina "Penny" who married John Peelle not Peale. Peelle is the original family spelling that goes all the way back to at least 1673. My great granddad dropped the second "l" from his signature. I have a news paper article and picture of Pennina and five generations of girls taken in Indiana. Note that I have Shadrack as the son of Charles (1729) who was the brother to Col Thoroughgood (1735). I have seen the tombstoneof his son, another Colonel Thor bron 1780... Horace Descendants of Shadrack Pate Generation No. 1 1. Shadrack5 Pate (Charles4, Charles3, Thoroughgood2, Thomas1) was born 1765 in Wayne Co., NC1, and died 24 Mar 1837 in Wayne Co., NC2. He married Dicey Peacock, daughter of John Peacock and Priscilla Worrell. She was born 17653, and died Apr 1838 in Wayne Co., NC3. Children of Shadrack Pate and Dicey Peacock are: 2 i. Willoughby6 Pate, born 10 Jul 1790 in Patetown, Wayne Co., NC; died 26 Jul 1834 in Pate Cemetery, Richmond Co., NC. He married Aseneath "Teney" Smith Abt. 1809 in Near Gibson, Richmond Co., NC; born 28 Jul 1788; died 05 Dec 1855 in Pate Cemetery, Richmond Co., NC. Notes for Willoughby Pate: !Willoughby is supposedly buried at the old Willoughby Pate farm, owned or occupied in 1958 by Duncan D. Norton. The Willoughby Pate farm is not far from the old Thoroughgood Pate place, about 3 miles south of Gibson, NC. According to records Willoughby Pate was the first Trustee of old Piney Grove Church in 1833. 3 ii. Silas Daniel Pate, born 25 Mar 1794 in Wayne Co., NC; died 12 Sep 1858 in Wayne Co., NC. He married Christian Ammons; born Abt. 1794 in Wayne Co., NC; died Aft. Dec 1872 in Wayne Co., NC. 4 iii. Pennina "Penny" Pate, born 25 Aug 1795 in Wayne Co., NC4; died 28 Jul 1892 in Willow Grove Cemetery, Fountain City, Wayne Co., IN. She married John Peelle 06 Mar 1815 in Richmond Co., NC5; born 27 May 1791 in Wayne Co., NC6; died 20 Apr 1879 in Willow Grove Cemetery, Fountain City, Wayne Co., IN7. 5 iv. Shadrack "Shade" Pate, born 10 Mar 1807 in Wayne Co., NC8; died 11 Oct 1891 in Wayne Co., NC8. He married Penelope "Penny" Howell Abt. 1827; born 06 May 1813 in Wayne Co., NC8; died 11 Jul 1869 in Wayne Co., NC8. Endnotes 1. JESmith 2. Date will Pobated. 3. JESmith 4. Ruthanne Holder 5. Descendants fo Robert Peele I and Allied Families, Mary Spiron, 1993. 6. Family History 7. Ruthanne Holder 8. JESmith etcu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flores Family" <floresfamily@esn.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 9:01 AM Subject: RE: [PATE GENEALOGY] Willoughby Pate, son of Shadrack Pate > This is my family line. I have a lot of info. on this. My line is > through > the Shadrack and Willoughby Pate also. Willoughby's son Lewis had twins > and > my line is from the twin Martin Pate. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joel Pate [mailto:patej@nettally.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:06 PM > To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Willoughby Pate, son of Shadrack Pate > >>From MaryAnn Hormuth, a PATE-L subscriber, whose line includes: > > Shadrack Pate who had a son named > > Willoughby Pate, who had a son named > > Benagy "Ben" Pate who had had a son named > > William Nelson Pate who had a son named > > Andrew Liddon Pate, Sr. > > comes this question: > > > > "How sure are we that Shadrack is the father of Willoughby Pate?" > > > > I turned to two sources to try to find an answer to this question. > > > > Source 1: > > "PATE-ADAMS-NEWTON And Allied Families Principally In Richmond, Scotland > and > Robeson Counties In North Carolina And Marlboro County, South Carolina" by > Julia Claire Pate, 1958. > > > > Julia Claire Pate wrote, on page 3 of her book- > > "Tradition is that Thoroughgood Pate's first wife was Winifred > Stewart. By this marriage he had the following children: > > Willoughby Pate > > Samuel Pate > > Stephen Pate (who it is said went West) > > Thoroughgood Pate II" > > Julia Claire Pate offered nothing further to support this assertion. > > > > Source 2: > > "PATE PIONEERS ON THE PEE DEE RIVER" by J. R. Peacock, 1987. This > document > is a basic monograph with addenda released privately by Dr. Peacock. > > > > The question as to the parents of Willoughby Pate is dealt with in a most > detailed manner on page 11 of the basic monograph. A partial transcript > of > page 11 follows: > > > > Start > > "11 > > > > The writer is indebted to Mrs. Nancy Taylor of Rocky Mount NC for much of > the data on Shadrack. > > > > Shadrack lived most of his adult life in the Wayne County area known > as "the Slough". He married Dicey Peacock. Peacock families also lived > near the creek known as the Slough. > > > > The Census records of Wayne County for 1790 and 1800 indicate > Shadrack had at least four sons, possibly five. His will, written > 24May1837 > (Wayne County Loose Estate Records) names only one - Shadrack, Jr. He > named > his wife, Dicey, and daughters named Selah Pate, Dicey Phillips, Christo > Pate, Rebecca Wright, Penelopy Peale and Mary Robertson, in addition to > the > son Shadrack Jr. The reader will recall that Shadrack had sisters named > Rebecca and Mary. > > > > Genealogists enter into hot debate over the possibility of other > children when terms such as "all heirs" so not appear in old wills. There > is good evidence that this family did not feel compelled to name all > children. > > > > The will of the widow, Dicey, was dated Nov1838. She omitted two > daughters, Christo Pate and Penelope Peale, who are named in Shadrack's > will > only a year earlier. > > > > The assumption is made here that Shadrack and Dicey had sons named > Willoughby, John, Lewis, William and Shadrack Jr. Some basis for this > assumption will be offered for Willoughby because he moved to the area of > this subject, Pate Pioneers on the Pee Dee River, and because Julia Clair > Pate considered he to be a son of Thor. and Winefred. > > > > Willoughby appears in the records of Wayne County on four occasions. > Three of these were when he served as a witness to deeds for Shadrack. > One, > and possibly two, were prior to his marriage. The fourth record is the > 1810 > Census. The 1810 Census of Wayne County lists Shadrack, John, Lewis and > Willoughby in adjacent households. Other Pates in the County were > separated > by some distance. > > > > His sister, Penelope, appears to have married Willis Peale. Among > the names given to Willoughby's sons were Lewis and Willis. These would > be > for a brother and a brother-in-law. Among the names given to his > daughters > were Penelope and Mary. These were names of his sisters. > > > > The family bible of Willoughby is recorded in the files of Leonardo > Andrea, who was identified earlier. The sons were Currington, Benjamin, > Smithy, Lewis, Nicholas, Harris, Travis, and Willis. The daughters were > Sarah, Mary, Rebecca, Penelope and Julaney." > > End > > > > In my OPINION, Jim Peacock is correct in his analysis and conclusions. > Willoughby Pate was the son of Shadrach Pate and Dicey Peacock. > > > > Joel > > >

Hansel W. Pate was born 31 Mar 1914 in OK and died 11 Nov 1978 in Tulare Co,..................I'm sorry that I didn't post this piece of data for your search.......................(sometimes his name didn't include the "James" thanx again for your help... deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Annette Rose" <earphoto@inreach.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] need help > Well, I am out here in Tulare county, CA.....can I help with this search? > What would you like me to do, maybe find an obit??? > > ear > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/92 - Release Date: 9/7/2005

yeah Joel, I shared with you on this ...........it's the sib of "Hank" and Ruby that I need......... thanx for the look ds ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] need help > Deborah: > > Some time back I worked up some data on James William Hansel "Hank" Pate. > See if any of this fits- > > James William Hansel "Hank" Pate, s/o George Edgar Pate and Lantie Cecile > Morris born Red Oak, OK 31 MAR 1914 died 11 NOV 1978 Visalia, Tulare > County > CA buried Rock Springs Cemetery Garland Co AR > > Lantie Cecile Morris See 1930 Jim Wells Co TX > > Sibs: > > Elsie Mae Pate Smith Constantine > > James Wm Hansel Pate > > Cordie Evelyn Pate West > > Iva Leona Pate Simeon > > Ada Marteen Pate McKinney > > George Edgar Pate, Jr. > > Charles Herbert Pate > > Billie Joe Pate > > Bobby Glen Pate (b.1930 after census) > > > > George Edgar Pate MAY be son of William H Pate and Nancie Pate. See 1910 > Latimer Co OK. Also check 1920 LeFlore Co OK and 1930 Jim Wells Co TX. > This Nancie Pate MAY PERHAPS be Nancy Emily Cogburn - see Montgomery Co AR > Pate Grooms. Does the name Theodore Clay Pate fit in this line? > > > > > > > > Joel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Godspells" <Godspells@cox.net> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] need help > > >> hi ear, >> wonderful to hear from you.........yes, if obit, or birth data of their >> female...or whatever you can find. >> >> James William Hansel Pate b. 1914, Red Oak, OK. d. there in >> Tulare/Visalia >> 1978 (one reference had 1976)...survived by wife, Ruby, and daughter >> (?).......... >> are you in this line somewhere, ear? >> >> thanx >> deborah >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "E. Annette Rose" <earphoto@inreach.com> >> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] need help >> >> >> > Well, I am out here in Tulare county, CA.....can I help with this > search? >> > What would you like me to do, maybe find an obit??? >> > >> > ear >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: >> > 9/5/2005 > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/92 - Release Date: 9/7/2005 > >

Deborah: Some time back I worked up some data on James William Hansel "Hank" Pate. See if any of this fits- James William Hansel "Hank" Pate, s/o George Edgar Pate and Lantie Cecile Morris born Red Oak, OK 31 MAR 1914 died 11 NOV 1978 Visalia, Tulare County CA buried Rock Springs Cemetery Garland Co AR Lantie Cecile Morris See 1930 Jim Wells Co TX Sibs: Elsie Mae Pate Smith Constantine James Wm Hansel Pate Cordie Evelyn Pate West Iva Leona Pate Simeon Ada Marteen Pate McKinney George Edgar Pate, Jr. Charles Herbert Pate Billie Joe Pate Bobby Glen Pate (b.1930 after census) George Edgar Pate MAY be son of William H Pate and Nancie Pate. See 1910 Latimer Co OK. Also check 1920 LeFlore Co OK and 1930 Jim Wells Co TX. This Nancie Pate MAY PERHAPS be Nancy Emily Cogburn - see Montgomery Co AR Pate Grooms. Does the name Theodore Clay Pate fit in this line? Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Godspells" <Godspells@cox.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] need help > hi ear, > wonderful to hear from you.........yes, if obit, or birth data of their > female...or whatever you can find. > > James William Hansel Pate b. 1914, Red Oak, OK. d. there in Tulare/Visalia > 1978 (one reference had 1976)...survived by wife, Ruby, and daughter > (?).......... > are you in this line somewhere, ear? > > thanx > deborah > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "E. Annette Rose" <earphoto@inreach.com> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] need help > > > > Well, I am out here in Tulare county, CA.....can I help with this search? > > What would you like me to do, maybe find an obit??? > > > > ear > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005 > >

Check 1900 through 1920 for Stephen Pate in Merced Co. CA Margaret Lindly

This is my family line. I have a lot of info. on this. My line is through the Shadrack and Willoughby Pate also. Willoughby's son Lewis had twins and my line is from the twin Martin Pate. -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate [mailto:patej@nettally.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:06 PM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Willoughby Pate, son of Shadrack Pate >From MaryAnn Hormuth, a PATE-L subscriber, whose line includes: Shadrack Pate who had a son named Willoughby Pate, who had a son named Benagy "Ben" Pate who had had a son named William Nelson Pate who had a son named Andrew Liddon Pate, Sr. comes this question: "How sure are we that Shadrack is the father of Willoughby Pate?" I turned to two sources to try to find an answer to this question. Source 1: "PATE-ADAMS-NEWTON And Allied Families Principally In Richmond, Scotland and Robeson Counties In North Carolina And Marlboro County, South Carolina" by Julia Claire Pate, 1958. Julia Claire Pate wrote, on page 3 of her book- "Tradition is that Thoroughgood Pate's first wife was Winifred Stewart. By this marriage he had the following children: Willoughby Pate Samuel Pate Stephen Pate (who it is said went West) Thoroughgood Pate II" Julia Claire Pate offered nothing further to support this assertion. Source 2: "PATE PIONEERS ON THE PEE DEE RIVER" by J. R. Peacock, 1987. This document is a basic monograph with addenda released privately by Dr. Peacock. The question as to the parents of Willoughby Pate is dealt with in a most detailed manner on page 11 of the basic monograph. A partial transcript of page 11 follows: Start "11 The writer is indebted to Mrs. Nancy Taylor of Rocky Mount NC for much of the data on Shadrack. Shadrack lived most of his adult life in the Wayne County area known as "the Slough". He married Dicey Peacock. Peacock families also lived near the creek known as the Slough. The Census records of Wayne County for 1790 and 1800 indicate Shadrack had at least four sons, possibly five. His will, written 24May1837 (Wayne County Loose Estate Records) names only one - Shadrack, Jr. He named his wife, Dicey, and daughters named Selah Pate, Dicey Phillips, Christo Pate, Rebecca Wright, Penelopy Peale and Mary Robertson, in addition to the son Shadrack Jr. The reader will recall that Shadrack had sisters named Rebecca and Mary. Genealogists enter into hot debate over the possibility of other children when terms such as "all heirs" so not appear in old wills. There is good evidence that this family did not feel compelled to name all children. The will of the widow, Dicey, was dated Nov1838. She omitted two daughters, Christo Pate and Penelope Peale, who are named in Shadrack's will only a year earlier. The assumption is made here that Shadrack and Dicey had sons named Willoughby, John, Lewis, William and Shadrack Jr. Some basis for this assumption will be offered for Willoughby because he moved to the area of this subject, Pate Pioneers on the Pee Dee River, and because Julia Clair Pate considered he to be a son of Thor. and Winefred. Willoughby appears in the records of Wayne County on four occasions. Three of these were when he served as a witness to deeds for Shadrack. One, and possibly two, were prior to his marriage. The fourth record is the 1810 Census. The 1810 Census of Wayne County lists Shadrack, John, Lewis and Willoughby in adjacent households. Other Pates in the County were separated by some distance. His sister, Penelope, appears to have married Willis Peale. Among the names given to Willoughby's sons were Lewis and Willis. These would be for a brother and a brother-in-law. Among the names given to his daughters were Penelope and Mary. These were names of his sisters. The family bible of Willoughby is recorded in the files of Leonardo Andrea, who was identified earlier. The sons were Currington, Benjamin, Smithy, Lewis, Nicholas, Harris, Travis, and Willis. The daughters were Sarah, Mary, Rebecca, Penelope and Julaney." End In my OPINION, Jim Peacock is correct in his analysis and conclusions. Willoughby Pate was the son of Shadrach Pate and Dicey Peacock. Joel

hi ear, wonderful to hear from you.........yes, if obit, or birth data of their female...or whatever you can find. James William Hansel Pate b. 1914, Red Oak, OK. d. there in Tulare/Visalia 1978 (one reference had 1976)...survived by wife, Ruby, and daughter (?).......... are you in this line somewhere, ear? thanx deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Annette Rose" <earphoto@inreach.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] need help > Well, I am out here in Tulare county, CA.....can I help with this search? > What would you like me to do, maybe find an obit??? > > ear > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005

>From MaryAnn Hormuth, a PATE-L subscriber, whose line includes: Shadrack Pate who had a son named Willoughby Pate, who had a son named Benagy "Ben" Pate who had had a son named William Nelson Pate who had a son named Andrew Liddon Pate, Sr. comes this question: "How sure are we that Shadrack is the father of Willoughby Pate?" I turned to two sources to try to find an answer to this question. Source 1: "PATE-ADAMS-NEWTON And Allied Families Principally In Richmond, Scotland and Robeson Counties In North Carolina And Marlboro County, South Carolina" by Julia Claire Pate, 1958. Julia Claire Pate wrote, on page 3 of her book- "Tradition is that Thoroughgood Pate's first wife was Winifred Stewart. By this marriage he had the following children: Willoughby Pate Samuel Pate Stephen Pate (who it is said went West) Thoroughgood Pate II" Julia Claire Pate offered nothing further to support this assertion. Source 2: "PATE PIONEERS ON THE PEE DEE RIVER" by J. R. Peacock, 1987. This document is a basic monograph with addenda released privately by Dr. Peacock. The question as to the parents of Willoughby Pate is dealt with in a most detailed manner on page 11 of the basic monograph. A partial transcript of page 11 follows: Start "11 The writer is indebted to Mrs. Nancy Taylor of Rocky Mount NC for much of the data on Shadrack. Shadrack lived most of his adult life in the Wayne County area known as "the Slough". He married Dicey Peacock. Peacock families also lived near the creek known as the Slough. The Census records of Wayne County for 1790 and 1800 indicate Shadrack had at least four sons, possibly five. His will, written 24May1837 (Wayne County Loose Estate Records) names only one - Shadrack, Jr. He named his wife, Dicey, and daughters named Selah Pate, Dicey Phillips, Christo Pate, Rebecca Wright, Penelopy Peale and Mary Robertson, in addition to the son Shadrack Jr. The reader will recall that Shadrack had sisters named Rebecca and Mary. Genealogists enter into hot debate over the possibility of other children when terms such as "all heirs" so not appear in old wills. There is good evidence that this family did not feel compelled to name all children. The will of the widow, Dicey, was dated Nov1838. She omitted two daughters, Christo Pate and Penelope Peale, who are named in Shadrack's will only a year earlier. The assumption is made here that Shadrack and Dicey had sons named Willoughby, John, Lewis, William and Shadrack Jr. Some basis for this assumption will be offered for Willoughby because he moved to the area of this subject, Pate Pioneers on the Pee Dee River, and because Julia Clair Pate considered he to be a son of Thor. and Winefred. Willoughby appears in the records of Wayne County on four occasions. Three of these were when he served as a witness to deeds for Shadrack. One, and possibly two, were prior to his marriage. The fourth record is the 1810 Census. The 1810 Census of Wayne County lists Shadrack, John, Lewis and Willoughby in adjacent households. Other Pates in the County were separated by some distance. His sister, Penelope, appears to have married Willis Peale. Among the names given to Willoughby's sons were Lewis and Willis. These would be for a brother and a brother-in-law. Among the names given to his daughters were Penelope and Mary. These were names of his sisters. The family bible of Willoughby is recorded in the files of Leonardo Andrea, who was identified earlier. The sons were Currington, Benjamin, Smithy, Lewis, Nicholas, Harris, Travis, and Willis. The daughters were Sarah, Mary, Rebecca, Penelope and Julaney." End In my OPINION, Jim Peacock is correct in his analysis and conclusions. Willoughby Pate was the son of Shadrach Pate and Dicey Peacock. Joel

Hi Rebecca, yes, I have all this, it's just the daughter they had, that I'm trying to find out about.........are you in this line too? thank you deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Hall" <rhall@cisaz.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: RE: [PATE GENEALOGY] need help > Deborah, > > Hansel W. Pate was born 31 Mar 1914 in OK and died 11 Nov 1978 in Tulare > Co, > CA. I have an address/phone number for Ruby from 2002: 16108 Three Rivers > Rd, Biloxi MS 39532-9263, (228)396-5221. Maybe this will help. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Godspells [mailto:Godspells@cox.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 6:01 PM > To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] need help > > trying to locate a relative in the Biloxi, MS---victim area.....she is a > great aunt....present name is Ruby Qualls..........now, only facts: > > James William Hansel PATE, b.1914, OK....md. Ruby (?)--don't have date, > but > could have been OK/AR/TX marriage. > James died in Tulare/Visalia/CA, 1976-78, buried there too I > think.....James > > & Ruby had one daughter, and I would like to know her name, because Ruby > was > > living only steps away from this only daughter in Biloxi. > Ruby had remarried, and now is divorced, thus the name "Qualls". I don't > have ex-husband's name either. > > I have placed Ruby's name & address on the web for this search, and > another > of our relatives, called it in to MS authorities. > > if anyone has access to any of these state births database, and can find > any > > thing to help....then thanx a bunch... > > deborah > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005 > >

Well, I am out here in Tulare county, CA.....can I help with this search? What would you like me to do, maybe find an obit??? ear

trying to locate a relative in the Biloxi, MS---victim area.....she is a great aunt....present name is Ruby Qualls..........now, only facts: James William Hansel PATE, b.1914, OK....md. Ruby (?)--don't have date, but could have been OK/AR/TX marriage. James died in Tulare/Visalia/CA, 1976-78, buried there too I think.....James & Ruby had one daughter, and I would like to know her name, because Ruby was living only steps away from this only daughter in Biloxi. Ruby had remarried, and now is divorced, thus the name "Qualls". I don't have ex-husband's name either. I have placed Ruby's name & address on the web for this search, and another of our relatives, called it in to MS authorities. if anyone has access to any of these state births database, and can find any thing to help....then thanx a bunch... deborah -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005

Deborah, Hansel W. Pate was born 31 Mar 1914 in OK and died 11 Nov 1978 in Tulare Co, CA. I have an address/phone number for Ruby from 2002: 16108 Three Rivers Rd, Biloxi MS 39532-9263, (228)396-5221. Maybe this will help. -----Original Message----- From: Godspells [mailto:Godspells@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 6:01 PM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] need help trying to locate a relative in the Biloxi, MS---victim area.....she is a great aunt....present name is Ruby Qualls..........now, only facts: James William Hansel PATE, b.1914, OK....md. Ruby (?)--don't have date, but could have been OK/AR/TX marriage. James died in Tulare/Visalia/CA, 1976-78, buried there too I think.....James & Ruby had one daughter, and I would like to know her name, because Ruby was living only steps away from this only daughter in Biloxi. Ruby had remarried, and now is divorced, thus the name "Qualls". I don't have ex-husband's name either. I have placed Ruby's name & address on the web for this search, and another of our relatives, called it in to MS authorities. if anyone has access to any of these state births database, and can find any thing to help....then thanx a bunch... deborah -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/2005

Alexander Pate born Oct 1818, probably in Robeson Co NC, died Dec 1906 in Geneva Co AL or Holmes Co FL had three spouses or wives: 1st he married or had a liaison with an unknown female, perhaps a Native American, in the Thomas Co GA area. No marriage record has been found. This union occurred prior to 1832 and resulted in the birth of one child, a daughter name Theresa Ann Pate b 9 Jun 1832. 2nd he married Clarissa Dees in Thomas Co GA 28 Dec 1837. They had children. 3rd he married Jo Ann Conley in Geneva Co AL 21 Feb 1876. They had children. THERESA ANN PATE also known as THURSIE or THURSEY PATE 9 Jun 1832 - 30 May 1897 first married ROBERT C FLOYD before 1849 probably in AL. Theresa Ann Pate and Robert C Floyd had issue: Elizabeth Floyd b ca 1848-49 James A Floyd b ca 1852 1850 PIKE CO AL Page 199b, Southern District, site 468/468 ROBERT C FLOYD---28 W/M ---GA 1822 THIRSEY A FLOYD--18 W/F ---GA 1832 ELIZABETH FLOYD-- 1 W/F----AL 1849 MARY PATE-------- 9 W/F----NC 1841 [Mary Pate perhaps Mary Margaret Pate, a sister of Thirsey Ann Pate Floyd] THERESA ANN PATE FLOYD second married JOHN RUFUS RETHERFORD 25 Nov 1833-1914 prior to 1858. Retherford also spelled Rutherford. Theresa Ann Pate Floyd and John Rufus Retherford had issue: Henry Frederick Rutherford 1858-1938 John Chester Rutherford b ca 1863 James Monroe Rutherford b ca 1868 William Tell Rutherford b ca 1870 Samuel Aaron Rutherford b ca 1875 Census and military data:-- 1860 DALE CO AL Page 710, Newton, site 1425/1425 JOHN RUTHERFORD---------------26 W/M---GA 1834 THERSEY A RUTHERFORD----------27 W/F---GA 1833 ELIZABETH RUTHERFORD (FLOYD)--12 W/F---AL 1848 JAMES A RUTHERFORD (FLOYD)---- 8 W/M---AL 1852 HENRY F RUTHERFORD------------ 2 W/M---AL 1858 John Rufus Retherford served as a Private, 53rd AL Partisan Ranger Regiment, Captain McCall's Company, in the Civil War 1880 DALE CO AL Page 600A, Enum District 62, sheet 33, Gilleys, site 295/295 RUFUS RUTHERFORD-----46 W/M HEAD MD FARMER---------------GA/SC/SC 1834 THERESA RUTHERFORD---48 W/F WIFE MD KEEPS HOUSE Bedridden-GA/NC/NC 1832 JOHN RUTHERFORD------17 W/M SON SGL LABORER---------------AL/GA/GA 1863 JAMES RUTHERFORD-----13 W/M SON SGL LABORER---------------AL/GA/AL 1868 WILLIAM RUTHERFORD---10 W/M SON SGL LABORER---------------AL/GA/NC 1870 AARON RUTHERFORD----- 5 W/M SON SGL AT HOME---------------AL/GA/NC 1875 1880 DALE CO AL Page 600A, Enum District 62, sheet 33, Gilleys, site 298/298 HENRY RUTHERFORD---22 W/M HEAD MD LABORER------AL/GA/GA 1858 CALLIE RUTHERFORD--18 W/F WIFE MD KEEPING HSE--AL/GA/GA 1832 Elizabeth Floyd, d/o Theresa Ann Pate and Robert C Floyd, perhaps married John Wallis in Dale Co AL 1880 DALE CO AL, Enum District 66, sheet 35, Barnes Cross Roads, site 312/312 JOHN WALLIS-------31 W/M HEAD MD FARMING--------AL/SC/GA 1849 ELIZABETH WALLIS--32 W/F WIFE MD KEEPING HOUSE--AL/UNK/SC 1848 ELIZA J WALLIS----12 W/F DAU SGL ---------------AL/AL/AL 1868 JOHN M WALLIS-----10 W/M SON SGL ---------------AL/AL/AL 1870 CALLIE D WALLIS--- 7 W/F DAU SGL ---------------AL/AL/AL 1873 GILLIE WALLIS----- 4 W/F DAU SGL ---------------AL/AL/AL 1876 1900 HOLMES CO FL, Enum District 47, sheet 26A, Wards Mill, site 417/420 JOHN M RETHERFORD----33 W/M HEAD MD FARMER----AL/AL/AL AUG 1866 ELIZA J RETHERFORD---35 W/F WIFE MD 15y 11/8--AL/GA/AL MAY 1865 NOLIE A RETHERFORD---14 W/F DAU SGL ----------AL/AL/AL DEC 1885 ULONIE RETHERFORD----12 W/F DAU SGL ----------AL/AL/AL DEC 1887 EULA J RETHERFORD ---11 W/F DAU SGL ----------AL/AL/AL JAN 1889 NETTIE RETHERFORD---- 9 W/F DAU SGL ----------AL/AL/AL AUG 1890 JEWEL RETHERFORD----- 7 W/F DAU SGL ----------AL/AL/AL NOV 1892 DINCUS W RETHERFORD-- 6 W/M SON SGL ----------AL/AL/AL MAR 1894 LUCY RETHERFORD------ 4 W/F DAU SGL-----------AL/AL/AL FEB 1896 JOHN S RETHERFORD---- 1 W/M SON SGL-----------AL/AL/AL DEC 1898 1900 HOLMES CO FL, Enum District 47, sheet 26A, Wards Mill, site 418/421 HENRY F RETHERFORD----42 W/M HEAD MD FARMER--AL/AL/AL NOV 1857 DAISY C RETHERFORD----40 W/F WIFE MD 25 5/5--AL/GA/AL MAY 1850 ALICE C RETHERFORD----16 W/F DAU SGL --------AL/AL/AL OCT 1883 JAMES M RETHERFORD----13 W/M SON SGL --------AL/AL/AL SEP 1876 CHARLES H RETHERFORD -11 W/M SON SGL --------AL/AL/AL JUL 1888 LUTA S RETHERFORD----- 9 W/F DAU SGL --------AL/AL/AL NOV 1890 JOHN RETHERFORD-------66 W/M FATHER WD ------AL/GA/SC NOV 1833 1910 HOLMES CO FL CHARLIE H RETHERFORD 21 @ED 44/1, BAY VIEW 1/1 JAMES B RETHERFORD 23 @ED 44/1, BAY VIEW 2/2 1930 HOLMES CO FL DINK W RETHERFORD 38 AL @ED 30-22/3B, IZAGORA, 35/36 JAMES M RETHERFORD 63 AL @ED 30-23/3B, IZAGORA, 54/55

BENSON-PATE-UZZELL-JOHNSON -- NC-TN-AR-MO-IN-TX 1790-1860 I am new to this list. I will apologize right up front for the ultra-long post but I hope those who have had an interest in reading it will be able to provide a lead for me or suggestions for further research. I will be most happy to share what I have. I am searching for my elusive 2nd great grandfather, CULLEN BENSON, born December 21, 1818??? in MO???. My research for Cullen Benson has placed him in NC, MO, TN, AR, IN and TX. I have a wealth of information on him after he came to Texas but prior to that time, it is guess work, with some very strong clues. I believe that he has some connection to the UZZELL family (possibly his mother or grandmother) since he named his first child William UZZEL Benson (the ZZ later changed to SS). Census records of Cullen Benson say he was born in MO. I know that some Uzzell families went to MO and some were acquainted with Bensons either in MO or in Old Dobbs and Wayne County, NC, but I have never been able to tie them together or my Cullen Benson to MO. Cullen Benson also had children named Thomas E., James Henry and Nancy Agnes, all names that appear in the UZZELL family. While Thomas, James and Nancy are pretty common names, CULLEN and UZZELL are not. There is also a William Henry Benson in Johnston Co., NC 1850 census with children that have very similiar names as my Cullen Benson, i.e., John Uzell, William Cullen, James Richard, and Nancy. In addition, Cullen and a James Benson, whom I believe to be his brother, both married into the PATE family in Hardeman Co., TN. There were also PATE families in early Wayne Co., NC. Exhausting all my leads in the Benson line, I have begun to look at other families and locations where he may have lived for clues on connections to a family, thus my post to this list. Here is what I know of my Cullen Benson and those that I “believe” are my Cullen Benson from the earliest known record: 1. 1835 - Hardeman Co., TN marriage records show a Cullin Benson marriage to Edny PATE bondsman Uzzell Benson. I do not know if this marriage was solemnized. 2. 1836 Cullin Benson is shown as the bondsman for the marriage of James Benson to Elizabeth PATE 3. 1839 - Hardeman Co., TN marriage records show a Cullen Benson marriage to a Margaret Parmer. This marriage was not solemnized in Hardeman Co. according to the County Clerk. 4. 1840 census for Hardeman Co, TN shows a Cullin Benson 30-40? with one female 20-30. Living in adjacent McNairy Co., TN are Uzzell, James R., Wright, and the elder, Etheldred/Eldred/Etheal D./Dred Benson, all of whom I believe are related in some way to Cullen Benson in Hardeman County, TN. They were all shown in later census records as being born in NC. The “elder” Benson is shown as Dred Benson in the 1800 Wayne Co. NC census 26-44 yrs, along with William, Willes, John and Hestre Benson . In 1810 Sampson NC as Dred 26-44 yrs. No record found for 1820. By 1830 he was in Hardeman Co., TN listed as Ethael D. 50-60 yrs. and in 1840 in McNairy Co., TN as Etheldred 60-70 yrs with a wife 50-60 yrs., the last record I can find. DID HE MARRY AN UZZELL? 5. 1844 Cullen Benson shows up in Saline Co., AR-marriage to Jane Johnson. I have a certified copy of this record from the County Clerk. 6. About 1846, Cullen Benson joins the service to fight in the Mexican War in AR (I have not found this record. A fellow Benson researcher provided this information. If anyone can confirm this I would be most grateful. He did serve but I have yet to determine what state he actually joined the military. His last wife, Nancy Noble Benson's application for pension for his service in the Mexican War indicates he joined to serve in the Mexican war in IN. I haven't been able to confirm that either. 7. 1850 Saline Co., AR census for Jane Benson shows her as a “widow”, living with a Hubbard family (probably her parents. I believe Johnson was her last name from a previous marriage since she had 4 children when she married Cullen Benson.) 8. 1850 Victoria Co., TX marriage records show Cullen Benson’s marriage to Nancy Noble(my line) 9. 1850 census for Victoria Co., TX shows Cullen Benson to be born in MO age 30 with wife Nancy J. age 23 10. 1860 Cullen Benson is in Burnet Co. TX, living next to his father-in-law and brother-in-laws. All are horse and cattle ranchers 11. 1864 Cullen is scalped and killed by Kiowa Indians while chopping wood on his land in Hoover's Valley, Burnet Co., TX Thanks in advance for any help. It is much appreciated. There just has to be a marriage between the Benson and Uzzell lines somewhere around the late 1700s to early 1800s to about 1815. There are just too many Benson lines that have children with UZZELL in their names around that time. HELP!!! Alice Benson in Austin, Texas a descendant of...... Jesse Dea Benson, Jr. Jesse Dea Benson, Sr. William Uzzel/Ussel Benson Cullen Benson

J Thanks JMP You can still use pateJ@nettally.com. I just have to go around to Linda's computer now and open my mail box ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Jinks Lee <jinksp@juno.com> Reply-To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:19:45 -0500 >Joel asked me to post a note to all of you -- he is >having computer problems and will be off line for >a few days while he is getting a new computer >and recovering all his files. After which, he will >be back in full force!! > >Jinks Pate Lee >jinksp@juno.com >Pate Webpage >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm >My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16 > >

Good to see your name online...How are you doing now? Is the treatments over and working for you? Dene