Dear Pate Family Researchers, Can anyone on this list tell me with reasonable certainty whether John Thomas Pate was married to a woman named Henrietta Kirkland, and if so, who Henrietta's parents were? John Thomas Pate was the father of a Pate ancestor of mine named William Bennett Pate (married once to Victoria Love, and then to Maud Odom), a major land owner in Crisp and Turner counties. Jeremy Utt

Dear Pate Family Researchers, I am conducting genealogical research for a Sons of the American Revolution (SAR) Supplemental Application that I am going to submit on Rev. Jacob Parkerson. The James David Pate mentioned in the subject line is (I believe) the son of Tempty Parkerson (and her husband Rev. William Pate), and the grandson of Rev. Jacob Parkerson. Would anyone be able and willing to share 1850 U.S. Census information that shows the family of James David Pate and Jane Moore? I believe that I am descended from them through their son John Thomas Pate (first married, I believe, to Henrietta Kirkland). Jeremy Utt

Jinks they are buried in Vermilion Co ILL not Vermilion Co IN ILGraves2 Pate Cemetery Catlin Township Vermilion Co IL 124 graves CHARLES L PATE 07 MAR 1821-02 APR 1880 58y 10m 26d SARAH A PATE 13 OCT 1813-20 DEC 1875 62y 2m 7d This look like some of your research I am convinced that Charles Lynch Pate married Sarah A Stiers and that she was several years older than he.

Jinks: Some things to consider when sorting out the marriages of Charles L Pate recorded in Dearborn Co IN. There MAY have been two men, one named Charles LYNCH Pate and one named Charles LEWIS Pate Some geographic items--Dearborn Co IN was contiguous Switzerland Co IN from 1814 to 1844. After 1844 the two counties, in the SE corner of the state were divided by Ohio Co. Vermilion Co IN is on the other side of the state on the Western border. In my unproven notes I have Charles Lynch Pate 2nd md Sarah A Stiers in Dearborn Co IN 11 Aug 1847. Sarah A Stiers, per Stiers researchers was b 13 Oct 1813 in Clermont Co OHIO. She SUPPOSEDLY is buried in the Pate Cemetery in Vermilion Co IN Charles Lynch Pate supposedly had a dau named Lucinda who was b ca 1839-1840 1850 census of Switzerland Co IN, page 346 (Mt) Pleasant Twsp, site 314/314 has Lynch Pate 29 b IN ca 1821 [could this be Charles Lynch Pate?] Sarah Pate 36 b OH ca 1814 [could this be Sarah A Stiers b Oct 1813 in OH?] Lucinda Pate 11 b IN ca 1839 [could this be dau of (Charles) Lynch Pate and 1st ux?] George Henry Pate 8 b IN ca 1842 [is this a son of (Charles) Lynch Pate & 1st ux?] Laney Pate f 5 b IN ca 1845 [could this be dau of (Charles) Lynch Pate and 1st ux?] Charles R Pate 1 b IN ca 1849 [perhaps a son of (Charles) Lynch and Sarah Stiers?] If Charles Lynch Pate was the father of a daughter, named Lucinda b ca 1839-1840 he would have married her mother before ca 1837. This proposition brings into play two possible marriages. 11 Apr 1837 Charles L Pate & Eliza Bradley 15 Jul 1838 Charles L Pate & Jane March Consider the 1860 census of Dearborn Co IN page 252, Caesar Creek Twsp, site 31/31 C L Pate 40 b IN ca 1820 [ is this the Lynch Pate in the 1850 census b IN ca 1821 Sarah Pate 48 b OH ca 1812 [is this Sarah Stiers b OH Oct 1813 also in the 1850 census with Lynch Pate?] George H Pate 18 b IN ca 1842 [is this the George Henry Pate b ca 1842 in the 1850 census with Lynch Pate?] Leanny Pate f 16 b IN ca 1844 [is this the Laney Pate b ca 1845 in the 1850 census with Lynch Pate?] Ronnel R Pate 10 b IN ca 1850 [is this the Charles R Pate b ca 1849 in the 1850 census with Lynch Pate?] It is my GUESS that Charles Lynch Pate 1st md Eliza Bradley 11 Apr 1837 in Dearborn Co IN and it my strong OPINION that Charles Lynch Pate 2nd md Sarah Stiers 11 Aug 1847. Joel

Jinks I am not sure if you are seeking verification of these dates or something more. But have you checked the Indiana State Library Database: Marriages thru 1850? http://199.8.200.229/db/marriages_search.asp If you stick in Charles Pate it pulls up all the ones you have listed and their dates. (It is Charles Lewis married to Rebecca). I hope this is what you are seeking. Carol Jinks Lee wrote: >I've been trying to sort out the Charles L Pate's >in Dearborn - does anyone have access to the Dearborn Co, IN >marriages??? > I have several marriages for Charles L - and though maybe >if I had the witnesses, or additional data on the marriages, it >might help -- > >The following marriages are recorded in Dearborn >Co, IN > >11 Apr 1837 Charles L Pate & Eliza Bradley >15 Jul 1838 Charles L Pate & Jane March >22 Mar 1842 Charles L Pate & Sarah J Patterson >11 Aug 1847 Charles L Pate & Sarah Stiers/Stars >22 Mar 1849 Charles L Pate & Rebecca Moorehouse (think this > is Charles Lewis) > >Thanks for any help!! >Jinks > >Jinks Pate Lee >jinksp@juno.com >Pate Webpage >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm >My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16 > > > >

Carol - thanks for the reply - and I have checked the site you mentioned. What I really need are any witnesses, relationships, or remarks that may be noted on the marriage records. Jinks Jinks Pate Lee jinksp@juno.com Pate Webpage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16

I've been trying to sort out the Charles L Pate's in Dearborn - does anyone have access to the Dearborn Co, IN marriages??? I have several marriages for Charles L - and though maybe if I had the witnesses, or additional data on the marriages, it might help -- The following marriages are recorded in Dearborn Co, IN 11 Apr 1837 Charles L Pate & Eliza Bradley 15 Jul 1838 Charles L Pate & Jane March 22 Mar 1842 Charles L Pate & Sarah J Patterson 11 Aug 1847 Charles L Pate & Sarah Stiers/Stars 22 Mar 1849 Charles L Pate & Rebecca Moorehouse (think this is Charles Lewis) Thanks for any help!! Jinks Jinks Pate Lee jinksp@juno.com Pate Webpage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16

Summary - Lena Lorene PATE - 8 Jan 2006 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Name: Lena Lorene PATE Sex: Female Father: John Franklin PATE (18 Dec 1848 - 28 Oct 1903) Mother: Rachel Lucretia COBB (1848 - 17 Feb 1919) Individual Facts Birth 24 Apr 1885 GA Census 1900 (age 15) Holmes Co FL Census 1910 (age 25) Washington Co., FL Census 1920 (age 35) Houston Co AL Census 1930 (age 45) Houston Co AL Death May 1936 (age 51) Houston Co AL Marriages/Children 1. Homer B WILLIAMS Marriage 3 Apr 1904 (age 18) Houston Co AL Children Thuly WILLIAMS (1906 - ) Mennefee (Dick) WILLIAMS (1909 - ) Henry WILLIAMS (1911 - ) Notes (Individual) Census (1900): Enum Dist 49, Sheet 11 Census (1910): Enum Dist 119, sheet 9A, Fountain, site 126/129 Census (1920): Enum Dist 138, sheet 6A, Dothan, site 96/104 Census (1930): Enum Dist 35-6, sheet 8A, Dothan, site 161/167 Death (May 1936): Volume 24, Roll 3, Certificate 11972 Notes (Family #1) Marriage (3 Apr 1904): Book 1, Page 129 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindy Hard" <ssautyvalleyfarm@worldnet.att.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Lena Lorene Pate Williams > > Lena Pate Williams and Homer Williams and their three children are on the > 1920 census Houston Co AL, Series T625 Roll 17 p182. > > I looked back at the Southwest Georgian (Clay Co GA) newspaper column 22 Dec > 1927 which reported the stroke of great-grandmother Brooks (Louiza Jane Pate > Brooks wife of John Decalve Brooks.) In the same news column is an account > of Mr. and Mrs. Homer Williams and Mr. and Mrs. Jim Pate of Dothan, Ala > being visitors. Several other Pate relatives from Ashford and Dothan, Ala > visited the same week. I just didn't realize who Mr/Mrs Homer Williams > were. > > Seeing this I would say that the Lena Pate who married Homer B Williams 1904 > in Houston Co AL is for certain the daughter of John F Pate. > > Thanks again for helping clear up this mystery for me. > Lindy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lindy Hard" <ssautyvalleyfarm@worldnet.att.net> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > > > > > Lindy: > > > See if you can fit these three marriages in > > > Lena a Pate m Homer B Williams 3 Apr 1904 Houston Co AL Bk 1, Pg 129 > > > Leona Pate m Albert Hobbs 12 Jan 1918 Houston Co AL Bk 4, Pg 360 > > > Leona Pate m M T Brock 16 Feb 1935 Houston Co AL Bk , Pg 509 > > > > > > Joel > >

Lena Pate Williams and Homer Williams and their three children are on the 1920 census Houston Co AL, Series T625 Roll 17 p182. I looked back at the Southwest Georgian (Clay Co GA) newspaper column 22 Dec 1927 which reported the stroke of great-grandmother Brooks (Louiza Jane Pate Brooks wife of John Decalve Brooks.) In the same news column is an account of Mr. and Mrs. Homer Williams and Mr. and Mrs. Jim Pate of Dothan, Ala being visitors. Several other Pate relatives from Ashford and Dothan, Ala visited the same week. I just didn't realize who Mr/Mrs Homer Williams were. Seeing this I would say that the Lena Pate who married Homer B Williams 1904 in Houston Co AL is for certain the daughter of John F Pate. Thanks again for helping clear up this mystery for me. Lindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindy Hard" <ssautyvalleyfarm@worldnet.att.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > > Lindy: > > See if you can fit these three marriages in > > Lena a Pate m Homer B Williams 3 Apr 1904 Houston Co AL Bk 1, Pg 129 > > Leona Pate m Albert Hobbs 12 Jan 1918 Houston Co AL Bk 4, Pg 360 > > Leona Pate m M T Brock 16 Feb 1935 Houston Co AL Bk , Pg 509 > > > > Joel

Lindy: >From John Ben Pate--- John F. Pate married Cresa Cobb. Their children are as follows: Alice Culver (nee Pate), Jan. 22, 1870; Dr. Walter E. Pate, July 16, 1871; James Britt Pate, March 18, 1873; Steven Edward Pate, May 4, 1875; Patty Hugh Pate, April 12, 1878; Benjamin Swinney Pate, July 23, 1879; John F. Pate, May 28, 1881; Milly Leione Pate, Nov. 25, 1883; Lena Lorene Williams (nee Pate), April 24, 1885. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindy Hard" <ssautyvalleyfarm@worldnet.att.net> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > > Thanks Joel, Jinks & Pacia for all the replys. I was missing the 1910 > Houston census listing Alice Pate as a widow with the child dec'd. I guess > she just went back to being a Pate since she is on 3 censuses that way. > > Thanks also for the clarification on B. A. Pate of Holmes county FL. I'll > keep looking for Benjamin Swinney Pate. > > In my database I have that Lena Lorene Pate married a Williams (source not > identified but probably from the John Ben Pate data) so the 1904 Homer B > Williams marriage may be the correct one. > > Thanks again, > Lindy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > > > > Jinks: > > Good suggestion- > > 1910 Houston Co AL, Ashford, site 48/49 > > 1. Stephen E Pate 33 b AL Head Sgl - unmarried? > > 2. Crecy Pate 67 b GA Mother - Rachel Lucretia Cobb Pate > > 3. Alice Pate 48 b GA Sister widowed- Sarah Alice Pate md Culver > > She is a widow with 1/0 children - The dau Alice Culver must have died. > > 4. Leona Pate 21 b GA This May be Milly Leone Pate b 25 Nov 1883. She is > > sgl with 1/1 children perhaps that child was- > > 5. Wallace Pate 3 b AL Nephew to Stephen > > > > Lindy: > > See if you can fit these three marriages in > > Lena a Pate m Homer B Williams 3 Apr 1904 Houston Co AL Bk 1, Pg 129 > > Leona Pate m Albert Hobbs 12 Jan 1918 Houston Co AL Bk 4, Pg 360 > > Leona Pate m M T Brock 16 Feb 1935 Houston Co AL Bk , Pg 509 > > > > Joel > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jinks Lee" <jinksp@juno.com> > > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:24 AM > > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > > > > > > > > > > Joel - try ALICE CULVER - I show Sarah ALICE Pate (dau of > > > John F & Rachel L Pate) b. 1870 md -- Culver. In 1910 Houston > > > Co, AL she was living with her brother, Stephen Pate. > > > While there was no gr-dau, Alice Culver listed, she would have > > > been 19 yrs old, so possibly married. > > > Jinks > > > > > > Jinks Pate Lee > > > jinksp@juno.com > > > Pate Webpage > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm > > > My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16 > > > > >

I see now why I missed Stephen E Pate family on the 1910 census. Heritage Quest has him indexed as Stephen E Pote. I see Homer B Williams family with wife Lena on 1910 census Washington Co FL, Pct 22 Fountain. They have 2 children with strange names: Pheoley and Menefee. T624 Roll 169 p67 Thanks again, Lindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > Jinks: > Good suggestion- > 1910 Houston Co AL, Ashford, site 48/49 > 1. Stephen E Pate 33 b AL Head Sgl - unmarried? > 2. Crecy Pate 67 b GA Mother - Rachel Lucretia Cobb Pate > 3. Alice Pate 48 b GA Sister widowed- Sarah Alice Pate md Culver > She is a widow with 1/0 children - The dau Alice Culver must have died. > 4. Leona Pate 21 b GA This May be Milly Leone Pate b 25 Nov 1883. She is > sgl with 1/1 children perhaps that child was- > 5. Wallace Pate 3 b AL Nephew to Stephen > > Lindy: > See if you can fit these three marriages in > Lena a Pate m Homer B Williams 3 Apr 1904 Houston Co AL Bk 1, Pg 129 > Leona Pate m Albert Hobbs 12 Jan 1918 Houston Co AL Bk 4, Pg 360 > Leona Pate m M T Brock 16 Feb 1935 Houston Co AL Bk , Pg 509 > > Joel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jinks Lee" <jinksp@juno.com> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > > > > > > Joel - try ALICE CULVER - I show Sarah ALICE Pate (dau of > > John F & Rachel L Pate) b. 1870 md -- Culver. In 1910 Houston > > Co, AL she was living with her brother, Stephen Pate. > > While there was no gr-dau, Alice Culver listed, she would have > > been 19 yrs old, so possibly married. > > Jinks > > > > Jinks Pate Lee > > jinksp@juno.com > > Pate Webpage > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm > > My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16 > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1158 (20050629) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > >

Thanks Joel, Jinks & Pacia for all the replys. I was missing the 1910 Houston census listing Alice Pate as a widow with the child dec'd. I guess she just went back to being a Pate since she is on 3 censuses that way. Thanks also for the clarification on B. A. Pate of Holmes county FL. I'll keep looking for Benjamin Swinney Pate. In my database I have that Lena Lorene Pate married a Williams (source not identified but probably from the John Ben Pate data) so the 1904 Homer B Williams marriage may be the correct one. Thanks again, Lindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > Jinks: > Good suggestion- > 1910 Houston Co AL, Ashford, site 48/49 > 1. Stephen E Pate 33 b AL Head Sgl - unmarried? > 2. Crecy Pate 67 b GA Mother - Rachel Lucretia Cobb Pate > 3. Alice Pate 48 b GA Sister widowed- Sarah Alice Pate md Culver > She is a widow with 1/0 children - The dau Alice Culver must have died. > 4. Leona Pate 21 b GA This May be Milly Leone Pate b 25 Nov 1883. She is > sgl with 1/1 children perhaps that child was- > 5. Wallace Pate 3 b AL Nephew to Stephen > > Lindy: > See if you can fit these three marriages in > Lena a Pate m Homer B Williams 3 Apr 1904 Houston Co AL Bk 1, Pg 129 > Leona Pate m Albert Hobbs 12 Jan 1918 Houston Co AL Bk 4, Pg 360 > Leona Pate m M T Brock 16 Feb 1935 Houston Co AL Bk , Pg 509 > > Joel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jinks Lee" <jinksp@juno.com> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > > > > > > Joel - try ALICE CULVER - I show Sarah ALICE Pate (dau of > > John F & Rachel L Pate) b. 1870 md -- Culver. In 1910 Houston > > Co, AL she was living with her brother, Stephen Pate. > > While there was no gr-dau, Alice Culver listed, she would have > > been 19 yrs old, so possibly married. > > Jinks > > > > Jinks Pate Lee > > jinksp@juno.com > > Pate Webpage > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm > > My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16 > >

The Leona Pate m M T Bock 16 Feb 1935 was daughter of John Thomas Pate and Mary Yeomans Pate. don't know how this fits into your current look at! Pacia Pate Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <patej@nettally.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > Jinks: > Good suggestion- > 1910 Houston Co AL, Ashford, site 48/49 > 1. Stephen E Pate 33 b AL Head Sgl - unmarried? > 2. Crecy Pate 67 b GA Mother - Rachel Lucretia Cobb Pate > 3. Alice Pate 48 b GA Sister widowed- Sarah Alice Pate md Culver > She is a widow with 1/0 children - The dau Alice Culver must have died. > 4. Leona Pate 21 b GA This May be Milly Leone Pate b 25 Nov 1883. She is > sgl with 1/1 children perhaps that child was- > 5. Wallace Pate 3 b AL Nephew to Stephen > > Lindy: > See if you can fit these three marriages in > Lena a Pate m Homer B Williams 3 Apr 1904 Houston Co AL Bk 1, Pg 129 > Leona Pate m Albert Hobbs 12 Jan 1918 Houston Co AL Bk 4, Pg 360 > Leona Pate m M T Brock 16 Feb 1935 Houston Co AL Bk , Pg 509 > > Joel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jinks Lee" <jinksp@juno.com> > To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > > >> >> Joel - try ALICE CULVER - I show Sarah ALICE Pate (dau of >> John F & Rachel L Pate) b. 1870 md -- Culver. In 1910 Houston >> Co, AL she was living with her brother, Stephen Pate. >> While there was no gr-dau, Alice Culver listed, she would have >> been 19 yrs old, so possibly married. >> Jinks >> >> Jinks Pate Lee >> jinksp@juno.com >> Pate Webpage >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm >> My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16 >> >> > >

Jinks: Good suggestion- 1910 Houston Co AL, Ashford, site 48/49 1. Stephen E Pate 33 b AL Head Sgl - unmarried? 2. Crecy Pate 67 b GA Mother - Rachel Lucretia Cobb Pate 3. Alice Pate 48 b GA Sister widowed- Sarah Alice Pate md Culver She is a widow with 1/0 children - The dau Alice Culver must have died. 4. Leona Pate 21 b GA This May be Milly Leone Pate b 25 Nov 1883. She is sgl with 1/1 children perhaps that child was- 5. Wallace Pate 3 b AL Nephew to Stephen Lindy: See if you can fit these three marriages in Lena a Pate m Homer B Williams 3 Apr 1904 Houston Co AL Bk 1, Pg 129 Leona Pate m Albert Hobbs 12 Jan 1918 Houston Co AL Bk 4, Pg 360 Leona Pate m M T Brock 16 Feb 1935 Houston Co AL Bk , Pg 509 Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jinks Lee" <jinksp@juno.com> To: <PATE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [PATE GENEALOGY] Benjamin Swinney Pate > > Joel - try ALICE CULVER - I show Sarah ALICE Pate (dau of > John F & Rachel L Pate) b. 1870 md -- Culver. In 1910 Houston > Co, AL she was living with her brother, Stephen Pate. > While there was no gr-dau, Alice Culver listed, she would have > been 19 yrs old, so possibly married. > Jinks > > Jinks Pate Lee > jinksp@juno.com > Pate Webpage > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm > My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16 > >

Joel - try ALICE CULVER - I show Sarah ALICE Pate (dau of John F & Rachel L Pate) b. 1870 md -- Culver. In 1910 Houston Co, AL she was living with her brother, Stephen Pate. While there was no gr-dau, Alice Culver listed, she would have been 19 yrs old, so possibly married. Jinks Jinks Pate Lee jinksp@juno.com Pate Webpage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~patefamily/index.htm My Direct Line: Desc Charts P-64 & P-16

Could Benjamin Swinney Pates Name been spelled as Benjamin Sweeney Pate? I think this comes from a Darby Sweeney. Just a guess I know this name was used as a middle name in some of the Pates. Barbara Joel Pate <patej@nettally.com> wrote: Lindy: The B A Pate in the 1920 Holmes Co FL census is Bennett A Pate son of James S Pate and Olivia Wilcox. He appears as Bennie A Pate in the 1900 Washington Co FL census. He was not Benjamin Swinney Pate son of John Franklin Pate and Rachel Lucretia Cobb. I don't know what became of Benjamin Swinney Pate The 9 year old g/dau, Alice Cullifer, b GA in the 1900 Holmes Co Census of the household of John F Pate has always puzzled me. She MAY be a dau of a widowed or divorced Alice Pate. I've tried it as Culliver and Cullifer, but got nothing. Couple of dates for you [Alice Pate b 22 Jan 1870] [Lena Lorene Pate 24 Apr 1885] John Franklin Pate and Rachel Lucretia Cobb Pate are buried at Liberty (PB ?) Church Cemetery in Houston Co AL. One or both of their graves are marked. Joel --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less

Lindy: The B A Pate in the 1920 Holmes Co FL census is Bennett A Pate son of James S Pate and Olivia Wilcox. He appears as Bennie A Pate in the 1900 Washington Co FL census. He was not Benjamin Swinney Pate son of John Franklin Pate and Rachel Lucretia Cobb. I don't know what became of Benjamin Swinney Pate The 9 year old g/dau, Alice Cullifer, b GA in the 1900 Holmes Co Census of the household of John F Pate has always puzzled me. She MAY be a dau of a widowed or divorced Alice Pate. I've tried it as Culliver and Cullifer, but got nothing. Couple of dates for you [Alice Pate b 22 Jan 1870] [Lena Lorene Pate 24 Apr 1885] John Franklin Pate and Rachel Lucretia Cobb Pate are buried at Liberty (PB ?) Church Cemetery in Houston Co AL. One or both of their graves are marked. Joel

Hello everyone, I've been looking at the John Franklin Pate family in greater depth. This is John Franklin Pate (18 Dec 1848 Stewart Co GA- 28 Oct 1903 Houston Co AL,) son of Stephen S Pate & Margaret McKinnon. JFP is located on the 1870 census Randolph Co GA, 1880 Census Clay Co GA and I have now located them on the 1900 Census Holmes Co FL (may be old news to some of you, but is new to me since I have not looked at them in depth before now.) [T623 Roll 171 p105] Who does the granddaughter Alice Cullefer b Apr 1891 belong to? Did Alice Pate marry and then divorce? Has anyone followed JFP son Benjamin S [purportedly Swinney] Pate? I would like some type of proof for his middle name. On this 1900 census Holmes Co FL, he is in his father's household as Benjamin S, age 21. I can't find him on the 1910 census, but on the 1920 census Holmes Co FL there is a B A Pate, age 41 with wife Francis 33, and three daughters. Could this be Benjamin S Pate? [T625 Roll 223 p201] John F Pate, Jr remained in Holmes Co FL for a while and is on the 1910 census there with wife Pearl and 3 children [Series T624 Roll 162 p88.] He is on the 1920 census Houston Co AL census with different (younger) wife [T625 Roll 17 p174.] The other sons Walter Eugene, James B, Steven Edward, Patrick Hugh all moved on from Holmes Co FL to Houston Co AL. Does anyone know anything about the JFP daughters Milly Leoine and Lena Lorene? The oldest JFP daughter Alice Pate is on the 1920 Houston Co AL census, age 50, in brother Britt Pate's household. [Series T625 Roll 17 p169] Thanks for any further help anyone may give. Lindy

Let's try this again. This obit appeared in the Paducah Sun in Paducah, KY earlier in the month of Dec. O'Neal Pate Hickman, KY---Services for O'Neal Pate, 76, of Hickman will be at 1 p.m. Wednesday at Thomas Chapel Church with the Rev. James Roberson and Gladys Turner officiating. Burial will be in Hickman City Cemetery. Mr. Pate died Thursday at Methodist University Hospital in Memphis, TN. A native of McKenzie, TN, he was a retired employee at Johnson Controls Inc. and a Korean War veteran. He was a member of Thomas Chapel Church, where he was a deacon. Surviving are a daughter, Sharon Waters of Toledo, Ohio; three grandchildren; and four great- grandchildren. He was preceded in death by a sister and brother. His parents were Troy Pate and Gladys Henderson Pate. Friends may call from 6 to 8 p.m. today at Strong Funeral Home. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.

My husband had an Aunt named Minnie Lee Pate, and she was born in Turner Co, GA about that same time period. However, she married a man named Addis HOWARD. They lived and died in Turner Co. Interesting co-incidence. Diana Pate Fitzgerald, GA -----Original Message----- From: Joel Pate [mailto:patej@nettally.com] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 11:34 PM To: PATE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PATE GENEALOGY] Minnie Lee Pate Joiner-Geneva Co AL Barbara Peters, a returning PATE-L subscriber posted the following inquiry: Does anyone know who Minnie L. Pate born about 1898 family was. She lived in Geneva co and married Homer Sterling Joiner. Barbara: This Minnie Lee Pate perhaps is the dau of John Thomas Pate and Mary J Yeomans who married in Geneva Co AL about 1893. See 1900 Geneva Co AL census, Enum Dist 73, sheet 8, Pates Cross Roads, site 137/137. This enumeration list an old brother, Alley M Pate age 6 and a younger brother Portor (Porter) Pate age 2. Also see 1930 census of Geneva Co AL, Enum Dist 31-7, sheet 3b, Lowery and Davis Schoolhouse Precinct, site 55/55 Homer Joiner age 35 Head Minnie Joiner age 34 Wife Willie A Joiner age 15 son Mary Lou Joiner 12 dau Same family was enumerated in the 1920 census of Genva Co AL. See Enum Dist 107, sheet 7A, Tates Schoolhouse, site 113/115 I would GUESS that Minnie Lee Pate married Homer Sterling Joiner in Geneva Co AL about 1913-1914 Joel