"One interesting person who would make any infamous list was a Robert Pate, who clobbered Queen Victoria with his cane." I bet if we could get a dna sample from his line I would find out I am related. LOL :) Dan (Benjamin Pate (circa dob 1776 NC)) ----- Original Message ----- From: AJ <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [PATE] Famous Pate's -- miscellanea Jerry, You asked about Danny Pate who races in the Tour de France. He is certainly a potential honoree, but see one of our guidelines below (which were published on the Listserve): "No living persons would be considered until after their careers (as the sources of their fame) were completed for athletes and entertainers, or until after retirement from active participation in any other profession." Strangely enough, the initial posting about the committee preparing a list of "Famous Pate's" seemed to generate little interest on the Listserve. Now that the list has been finalized, the interest level has risen. That's good because the object of the list, as explained, was to generate interest in our Pate family, hopefully leading to increased membership in our Pate DNA Project, more research on some of the persons listed, and more participation on this Listserve. The list is not permanently closed, since there are a number of living persons who could qualify under all the guidelines with the exception of the one quoted above. As Joel noted, and as I have noted in several postings to the Listserve, he, Troy Pate, and I formed the committee which prepared the final list. Joel was the person who first mentioned Henry Clay Pate, and after much discussion, we declined to add him to the list. There were a number of other people we considered, very respected and worthy persons, whom we did not add to the list, because we felt there should be a very high bar for inclusion as noted by our guidelines. We briefly entertained the idea of including some people who were famous only for being infamous. We quickly dismissed that idea, believing that we should honor only the best of our family, not the worst. One interesting person who would make any infamous list was a Robert Pate, who clobbered Queen Victoria with his cane. A military officer, he came from a very wealthy and distinguished family. I don't believe a reasonable answer was ever discovered for his motivation. After serving his time in exile, he became a very wealthy man. Here's more about this man and his bizarre action: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pate Here are some Pate's who are living examples of the truth of the saying that "Evil companions corrupt good morals." On these links, do a search for the name Pate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_DeCicco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bilotti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Orena http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine_Sessa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Persico I hope I don't get kneecapped (or worse) for posting these links. A. J. Pate ___________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:23:21 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Gerald Pait" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate To: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> I agree. He could be considered famous but from everything I have found, he is NOT a hero the family could be proud of. He was a very vindictive man, was not thought highly of by his peers and it wasn't until the last battle he fought in did Jeb Stuart decide he was a good soldier. Obviously, he is in our family history, but I do not support placing him in the same company as famous Pates. Maybe a new category of infamous Pates. I would like to ask if the young man who raced in the Tour de France is included on our list? Jerry Pait ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't think I have any one that meets the standard. But as you all know I have been hacked again. The Yahoo account is no longer active. They have refused to send me my address book. I had another good address but once I requested my address book and the request was denied they took that email address away. Now my [email protected] is good. The other one is [email protected] I wanted to use clovisworldtraveler as someone on the list serve suggested last time but thought better of that. -- Clovis Byars Herring

Did I mention the head injury....thanks for the reminder. -------Original Message------- From: AJ Date: 5/26/2010 11:00:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PATE] Famous Pate's -- miscellanea Jerry, You asked about Danny Pate who races in the Tour de France. He is certainly a potential honoree, but see one of our guidelines below (which were published on the Listserve): "No living persons would be considered until after their careers (as the sources of their fame) were completed for athletes and entertainers, or until after retirement from active participation in any other profession." Strangely enough, the initial posting about the committee preparing a list of "Famous Pate's" seemed to generate little interest on the Listserve. Now that the list has been finalized, the interest level has risen. That's good because the object of the list, as explained, was to generate interest in our Pate family, hopefully leading to increased membership in our Pate DNA Project, more research on some of the persons listed, and more participation on this Listserve. The list is not permanently closed, since there are a number of living persons who could qualify under all the guidelines with the exception of the one quoted above. As Joel noted, and as I have noted in several postings to the Listserve, he, Troy Pate, and I formed the committee which prepared the final list. Joel was the person who first mentioned Henry Clay Pate, and after much discussion, we declined to add him to the list. There were a number of other people we considered, very respected and worthy persons, whom we did not add to the list, because we felt there should be a very high bar for inclusion as noted by our guidelines. We briefly entertained the idea of including some people who were famous only for being infamous. We quickly dismissed that idea, believing that we should honor only the best of our family, not the worst. One interesting person who would make any infamous list was a Robert Pate, who clobbered Queen Victoria with his cane. A military officer, he came from a very wealthy and distinguished family. I don't believe a reasonable answer was ever discovered for his motivation. After serving his time in exile, he became a very wealthy man. Here's more about this man and his bizarre action: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pate Here are some Pate's who are living examples of the truth of the saying that "Evil companions corrupt good morals." On these links, do a search for the name Pate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_DeCicco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bilotti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Orena http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine_Sessa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Persico I hope I don't get kneecapped (or worse) for posting these links. A. J. Pate ___________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:23:21 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Gerald Pait" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate To: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> I agree. He could be considered famous but from everything I have found, he is NOT a hero the family could be proud of. He was a very vindictive man, was not thought highly of by his peers and it wasn't until the last battle he fought in did Jeb Stuart decide he was a good soldier. Obviously, he is in our family history, but I do not support placing him in the same company as famous Pates. Maybe a new category of infamous Pates. I would like to ask if the young man who raced in the Tour de France is included on our list? Jerry Pait ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jerry, You asked about Danny Pate who races in the Tour de France. He is certainly a potential honoree, but see one of our guidelines below (which were published on the Listserve): "No living persons would be considered until after their careers (as the sources of their fame) were completed for athletes and entertainers, or until after retirement from active participation in any other profession." Strangely enough, the initial posting about the committee preparing a list of "Famous Pate's" seemed to generate little interest on the Listserve. Now that the list has been finalized, the interest level has risen. That's good because the object of the list, as explained, was to generate interest in our Pate family, hopefully leading to increased membership in our Pate DNA Project, more research on some of the persons listed, and more participation on this Listserve. The list is not permanently closed, since there are a number of living persons who could qualify under all the guidelines with the exception of the one quoted above. As Joel noted, and as I have noted in several postings to the Listserve, he, Troy Pate, and I formed the committee which prepared the final list. Joel was the person who first mentioned Henry Clay Pate, and after much discussion, we declined to add him to the list. There were a number of other people we considered, very respected and worthy persons, whom we did not add to the list, because we felt there should be a very high bar for inclusion as noted by our guidelines. We briefly entertained the idea of including some people who were famous only for being infamous. We quickly dismissed that idea, believing that we should honor only the best of our family, not the worst. One interesting person who would make any infamous list was a Robert Pate, who clobbered Queen Victoria with his cane. A military officer, he came from a very wealthy and distinguished family. I don't believe a reasonable answer was ever discovered for his motivation. After serving his time in exile, he became a very wealthy man. Here's more about this man and his bizarre action: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pate Here are some Pate's who are living examples of the truth of the saying that "Evil companions corrupt good morals." On these links, do a search for the name Pate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_DeCicco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bilotti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Orena http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmine_Sessa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Persico I hope I don't get kneecapped (or worse) for posting these links. A. J. Pate ___________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:23:21 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Gerald Pait" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate To: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> I agree. He could be considered famous but from everything I have found, he is NOT a hero the family could be proud of. He was a very vindictive man, was not thought highly of by his peers and it wasn't until the last battle he fought in did Jeb Stuart decide he was a good soldier. Obviously, he is in our family history, but I do not support placing him in the same company as famous Pates. Maybe a new category of infamous Pates. I would like to ask if the young man who raced in the Tour de France is included on our list? Jerry Pait

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda La Hue Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] OBIT ~ Susan Jane (Brock) Pate - GA - Atten: Linda LaHue Joel, thank you very much. Linda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joel Pate Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] OBIT ~ Susan Jane (Brock) Pate - GA - Atten: Linda LaHue Linda LaHue Given the fact that Susan Jane Brock Pate was born and raised in Adrian, Lenawee County, Michigan and married into a Pate family there, the Pate family here is probably part of the John "Beelog" Pate line out of Yancey County NC Joel On 5/25/2010 2:17 PM, ThorPateLine wrote: > > Susan Jane (Brock) Pate > > > Susan Jane (Brock) Pate - SAVANNAH - Susan Jane (Brock) Pate passed away at > her home early Tuesday morning, May 11, 2010 after a six-month battle with > lung cancer. Susan was born and raised in the small town of Adrian, MI and > relocated to Savannah, GA in 1986 with her husband of forty-six years, > Kenneth Larry Pate and their two sons; Ken and Jeff. Susan worked at Candler > and Memorial hospitals as a physical therapy tech for a span of over twenty > years. Susan was a member of St. Peter the Apostle Catholic Church on > Wilmington Island, as well as a member of the Savannah Chapter Harley Owners > Group (HOG). Susan is preceded in death by her mother and father, Mrs. Alta > Brock and Mr. Ezra Brock. Her sister, Miss Marilyn Brock, and her brother, > Mr. Robert Brock. Susan is survived by her husband, Mr. Kenneth Larry Pate. > Her two sons, Kenneth Scott Pate and Jeffrey Todd Pate. A daughter-in-law, > Mrs. Jennifer Marie Pate and six grandchildren, Anthony, Taylor, > Sarah-Louise, Anna, Molly and Christian. Visitation will be held on > Thursday, May 13, 2010 from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. at the funeral home. A funeral > mass will be held on Friday, May 14, 2010 at 12 noon at St. Peter the > Apostle Catholic Church on Wilmington Island. In lieu of flowers, donations > may be made to Hospice Savannah, PO box 13190, Savannah, GA 31416 or to the > American Cancer Society , 6600 Abercorn St., Suite 206, Savannah, GA 31405. > Friends may sign the online register book at > www.stricklandandsonsfuneralhome.com Thomas C. Strickland& Sons Funeral > Homes West Chatham Chapel 901 W. Hwy 80 Pooler, GA 31322 912-748-2444 > Savannah Morning News May 12, 2010 Please sign our Obituary Guest Book at > savannahnow.com/obituaries . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cousin, This is what I have on the family of Seaborn Pate. He was the son of James M Pate,Sr and wife Mary. Nancy M Dinkins ----------------------------------- Descendants of James M Pate,Sr 1 [3] James M Pate,Sr d: 19 Sep 1831 in Fayette Co, Georgia Age at death: 56 est. . +Mary d: Bet. 1814 - 1816 Age at death: 37 est. ... 2 Sarah Jane Pate d: Abt. 1856 in Coosa Co, Alabama Age at death: 60 est. ....... +Squire Posey d: 06 Oct 1876 in Walker Co, Alabama Age at death: 89 est. ... 2 James M Pate,Jr d: 23 Jun 1856 in Randolph Co, Alabama Age at death: 56 ....... +Mirina A Gay d: 16 Jun 1876 in Randolph Co, Alabama Age at death: 73 ... 2 John Pate d: Abt. 1878 in Coosa Co, Alabama Age at death: 77 est. ....... +Evaline Bates d: Aft. 1870 in Coosa Co, Alabama Age at death: 59 est. ... 2 Phebe Pate d: Aft. 1870 in Jasper Co, Georgia Age at death: 68 est. ....... +Lewis Davis Yancey d: 06 Jun 1851 in Jasper Co, Georgia Age at death: 89 est. ... 2 Frances Pate d: 1834 Age at death: 31 est. ....... +Sampson D Harrison d: Aft. 1840 Age at death: 39 est. ... 2 Winneford Pate ....... +James E Bland ... 2 [1] Seaborn Pate d: 28 May 1888 in Brooks, Fayette, Georgia Age at death: 81 ....... +Mary Weathers d: 01 Aug 1857 in Fayette Co, Georgia Age at death: 46 est. ... *2nd Wife of [1] Seaborn Pate: ....... +Sarah Frances Elmore d: 06 Aug 1914 Age at death: 77 est. ... 2 [2] Charles W Pate d: Abt. 1877 in Coryell Co, Texas Age at death: 69 est. ....... +Charlotte Pritchett d: Abt. 1833 in Coweta Co, Georgia Age at death: 25 est. ... *2nd Wife of [2] Charles W Pate: ....... +Politian Samantha Hand ... *3rd Wife of [2] Charles W Pate: ....... +Nancy Latham ... 2 William H. Pate d: Aug 1854 in Fayette Co, Georgia/ Conway Co, Arkansas Age at death: 45 est. ....... +Rachel Pearce d: Bet. 1860 - 1870 in Jackson Co, Georgia Age at death: 49 est. ... 2 Thomas A Pate d: Jul 1865 in Coosa Co, Alabama Age at death: 51 est. ....... +Malinda Ann Pritchett d: 22 Sep 1882 in Hubbard, Hill, Texas Age at death: 63 est. *2nd Wife of [3] James M Pate,Sr: . +Mary Phillips d: Abt. 1821 Age at death: ? *3rd Wife of [3] James M Pate,Sr: . +Catherine Sayers-Harrison ----------------------------------- Descendants of Seaborn Pate 1 [1] Seaborn Pate d: 28 May 1888 in Brooks, Fayette, Georgia Age at death: 81 . +Mary Weathers d: 01 Aug 1857 in Fayette Co, Georgia Age at death: 46 est. ... 2 ? Pate ... 2 Henry Pate ....... +Emily Jane Pyron *2nd Wife of [1] Seaborn Pate: . +Sarah Frances Elmore d: 06 Aug 1914 Age at death: 77 est. ... 2 Anna P Pate ... 2 Giles Haralson Bartow Pate d: 08 Jun 1918 Age at death: 57 ....... +Lucy Frances Moore d: 14 Nov 1947 Age at death: 77 ........ 3 Odessa T Pate ........ 3 James Edcar Pate ........ 3 Seaborn L Pate ........ 3 Alice M Pate ........ 3 John B Pate ... 2 John Henderson Morgan Pate d: 01 Apr 1923 in Brooks, Fayette, Georgia Age at death: 60 ....... +Mattie L d: 04 Jul 1943 in Brooks, Fayette, Georgia Age at death: 70 ........ 3 Ruffus H Pate d: 08 May 1910 in Brooks, Fayette, Georgia Age at death: 18 ........ 3 Percy Pate ........ 3 Elsie Pate ........ 3 Lloyd Pate ... 2 George Elmo Pate d: 16 Aug 1949 Age at death: 83 ....... +Rosa Lee Couch ... 2 James Madison Pate d: 10 Aug 1898 in Brooks, Fayette, Georgia Age at death: 30 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "srwlnc1" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: [PATE] John Henderson Pate > Dear Pate Family, > > Hi, we do not have much info on our great and grandfather and grandmother > Pate and nothing beyond them :( Can ya'll help fill in the blanks? We live > about 6 miles from their graves, we have always known where they were > buried, just not a lot of info about them or earlier relatives. Our older > living relatives do not have much memory of the family. Thank you for help > in connecting us. I am new to this site and not sure about how to find > us:) > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > Susan and Ronald Henderson Whatley > > > > This is what I know for sure: > > > > Seaborn Pate > > Born: 27 May 1809 in Jasper, Georgia, USA > > Death: 28 May 1888 in Brooks GA Fayette Co > > > > John Henderson Pate (listed as John Henderson Morgan Pate on the 1880 > Census, which was news to everyone!) > > Born: 7 Feb 1863 in Georgia. > > Death: 1 April 1923 in Brooks Ga Fayette Co. > > > > Mattie Lou Shell Pate > > Born: 21 April 1873 in Georgia > > Death: 4 July 1943 in Brooks GA Fayette Co. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

DAR has the following on line regarding William Pate.: Future Applicants Must Prove Correct Service: The proof of service used to establish this person as a patriot is no longer valid. Subsequent evaluation of the proof of service may have determined that the proof is not acceptable under today's standards (examples: tombstone, obituary, undocumented genealogy or county history, family tradition); the service belongs to another person of the same name; the residence of this person during the Revolution is inconsistent with the service, or multiple people have claimed the same service. Future applicants must provide proof of service (and possibly residence) that meets current standards. Closed to New Applicants: This person could not have performed any service during the Revolution and/or they died without heirs. A person who was born during/after or died before the Revolution cannot have service. Future applicants must provide conclusive proof of the correct birth and/or death date of the ancestor and/or the lineage. Future Applicants Must Prove Correct Lineage: The proof of lineage used to establish this person as a patriot is no longer valid. No previously verified paper on this patriot may be used to document lineage. Future applicants must provide conclusive documentation demonstrating lineal descent from this ancestor. Documentation must meet current standards. Jacob Parkinson had a Revolutionary pension. His line is established. He is proved through James Holt md Mary Pate, David Johnson and Sarah Pate, and Cordial Pate. Ezekiel Tippett md Nancy Holt, d/o James, is proved. The Tippett record is for member Nat'l #: 680228.

Yes, definitely - this Travis was in the Thor Pate line. Travis was the youngest of my grandfather's brothers. My great-grandfather was John Adams Pate - not John Adam Pate as it seems to have been documented by Jinks. My great-grandmother was Jeannette McCall Pate. (Jennie was her nickname). John Adams Pate and Jeannette McCall Pate had the following children: McCall Pate - b: 20 DEC 1870 in Marlboro Co., SC Alice Pate - b: 14 AUG 1872 in Marlboro Co., SC Ida Lee Pate - b: FEB 1875 in Marlboro Co.,SC Daniel Chisholm Pate - b: 18 JUN 1878 in Marlboro Co. SC Mary Pate - b: SEP 1879 in Marlboro Co.,SC Thomas Dick Pate - b: OCT 1881 in Marlboro Co., SC Travis Pate - b: 22 AUG 1890 in Chesterfield Co.,SC Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected] com" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:48 PM Subject: [PATE] Travis Pate 1890-1982 The 1958 book by Julia Claire Pate, on page 24, contains the following: Travis Pate , son of John Adam Pate and Jennie McCall Pate, b Aug. 22, 1890, at Cheraw, S.C. Received his education at Staunton Millitary Academy. Stauton, Va. and Hampden-Sidney College, Virginia. On July 6 1915, in New York City, N.Y., m. Lyle Ethel Glazier, of Richmond, Va. Rev. Dr. Martin officiating. A dtr: June Jeannette Pate b. June 25 1916, in New York City June married: 1st John Milton England 2nd Gerald J. Crowden. June and Mr. Crowden live at Long Beach, California Travis and Lyle live at234 West 5th St., Long Beach, Calif. The California Death Index contains these entries: Travis Pate b 08/22/1890 in SC, mother's maiden -McCall, d 20/02/1982, County 19 (Los Angeles) SSN 557-54-4367 Lyle E Pate b 07/06/1893 in NY, maiden name-Glazier d 10/03/1980, County 19 (Los Angeles) SSN -None This Travis Pate was, no doubt, part of the the Thoroughgood Pate line. Joel -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Right, Gerald... As is my 2nd cousin, Randolph McCall Pate. As is Aldolph Hitler. As is JFK As is Barack Hussein Obama. And without BAD who would you have the GOOD to compare with? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Pait" <[email protected]> To: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate Jack the ripper is on there also. -------Original Message------- From: ThorPateLine Date: 5/25/2010 2:44:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate If I might enter my 2 cents' worth here..... No matter what you all decide about Henry Clay Pate being included in your project of famous or infamous Pates, as I see it (and this is merely my humble opinion, folks!) as long as you can Google the name *Henry Clay Pate* and come up with well over 40,000 hits of documented historical information and blogging about this man on the internet, that makes him pretty famous --- no matter what kind of *shady character* he may have been! OK, so I spoke a plug nickel's worth..... LOL Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate When AJ mentions "we" as the compilers of the list of Famous Pates, I was part of that we. If my memory serves me correctly, and more and more it does not these days, I was the one who suggested Henry Clay Pate. By consensus we agreed not to include him. I like Henry Clay Pate. I have researched him to a great extent. I have compiled multiple pages of information about him. I assisted in the preparation of a paper presented to the New England Civil War Roundtable on him. I also assisted the Kansas Historical Society in trying (unsuccessfully) to locate a living descendant of Henry Clay Pate to attend a ceremony unveiling a marker near the pre-civil war battle site at Black Jack near Pottawatomie Creek [http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/blackjac.html]. I have several postings on Henry Clay Pate in the archives of the Pate List Serve. Each February, at our annual Lee-Jackson Banquet, I light and then extinguish two candles to commemorate two Confederate soldiers who gave their lives defending their country against the arrogance and tyranny of their nation. One candle is for my great great great grandfather, Thomas Pate, who died of wounds received in the Wilderness and the other is for Henry Clay Pate. By the measure we used, Henry Clay Pate is not famous; nor is he infamous. He was a bright, articulate, passionate, and energetic young man. He was a skilled writer, newspaper editor, weapons designer and later a brave and dedicated cavalry commander. He was a cousin to Jinks Pate Lee. His older brother, William D Pate was a West Virginia State Senator, who with his father. Edmund Pate founded and operated the Coal River Navigation Co. in West Virginia. Henry Clay Pate's younger brother, Ortho K Pate was an ordained Episcopal priest. All three were Confederate officers. Joel On 5/25/2010 9:41 AM, AJ wrote: > When we were compiling the list of Famous Pate's, Henry Clay Pate was > discussed as a possible honoree. Though he undoubtedly displayed bravery > on occasion, we felt that his overall record was rather checkered and > undistinguished. His main claim to fame was leading a military unit to > capture John Brown. The humiliating result was losing to John Brown's > smaller ragtag "army" in two hours and having to surrender himself. Those > interested can learn more about him here: > http://kansasboguslegislature.org/mo/pate_h_c.html This appears to be an > article biased against him, but nevertheless contains enough factual > information to arrive at a conclusion. > > A. J. Pate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/blackjac.html -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda LaHue Given the fact that Susan Jane Brock Pate was born and raised in Adrian, Lenawee County, Michigan and married into a Pate family there, the Pate family here is probably part of the John "Beelog" Pate line out of Yancey County NC Joel On 5/25/2010 2:17 PM, ThorPateLine wrote: > > Susan Jane (Brock) Pate > > > Susan Jane (Brock) Pate - SAVANNAH - Susan Jane (Brock) Pate passed away at > her home early Tuesday morning, May 11, 2010 after a six-month battle with > lung cancer. Susan was born and raised in the small town of Adrian, MI and > relocated to Savannah, GA in 1986 with her husband of forty-six years, > Kenneth Larry Pate and their two sons; Ken and Jeff. Susan worked at Candler > and Memorial hospitals as a physical therapy tech for a span of over twenty > years. Susan was a member of St. Peter the Apostle Catholic Church on > Wilmington Island, as well as a member of the Savannah Chapter Harley Owners > Group (HOG). Susan is preceded in death by her mother and father, Mrs. Alta > Brock and Mr. Ezra Brock. Her sister, Miss Marilyn Brock, and her brother, > Mr. Robert Brock. Susan is survived by her husband, Mr. Kenneth Larry Pate. > Her two sons, Kenneth Scott Pate and Jeffrey Todd Pate. A daughter-in-law, > Mrs. Jennifer Marie Pate and six grandchildren, Anthony, Taylor, > Sarah-Louise, Anna, Molly and Christian. Visitation will be held on > Thursday, May 13, 2010 from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. at the funeral home. A funeral > mass will be held on Friday, May 14, 2010 at 12 noon at St. Peter the > Apostle Catholic Church on Wilmington Island. In lieu of flowers, donations > may be made to Hospice Savannah, PO box 13190, Savannah, GA 31416 or to the > American Cancer Society , 6600 Abercorn St., Suite 206, Savannah, GA 31405. > Friends may sign the online register book at > www.stricklandandsonsfuneralhome.com Thomas C. Strickland& Sons Funeral > Homes West Chatham Chapel 901 W. Hwy 80 Pooler, GA 31322 912-748-2444 > Savannah Morning News May 12, 2010 Please sign our Obituary Guest Book at > savannahnow.com/obituaries . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers

The 1958 book by Julia Claire Pate, on page 24, contains the following: Travis Pate , son of John Adam Pate and Jennie McCall Pate, b Aug. 22, 1890, at Cheraw, S.C. Received his education at Staunton Millitary Academy. Stauton, Va. and Hampden-Sidney College, Virginia. On July 6 1915, in New York City, N.Y., m. Lyle Ethel Glazier, of Richmond, Va. Rev. Dr. Martin officiating. A dtr: June Jeannette Pate b. June 25 1916, in New York City June married: 1st John Milton England 2nd Gerald J. Crowden. June and Mr. Crowden live at Long Beach, California Travis and Lyle live at234 West 5th St., Long Beach, Calif. The California Death Index contains these entries: Travis Pate b 08/22/1890 in SC, mother's maiden -McCall, d 20/02/1982, County 19 (Los Angeles) SSN 557-54-4367 Lyle E Pate b 07/06/1893 in NY, maiden name-Glazier d 10/03/1980, County 19 (Los Angeles) SSN -None This Travis Pate was, no doubt, part of the the Thoroughgood Pate line. Joel -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers

Joel, thank you very much. Linda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joel Pate Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] OBIT ~ Susan Jane (Brock) Pate - GA - Atten: Linda LaHue Linda LaHue Given the fact that Susan Jane Brock Pate was born and raised in Adrian, Lenawee County, Michigan and married into a Pate family there, the Pate family here is probably part of the John "Beelog" Pate line out of Yancey County NC Joel On 5/25/2010 2:17 PM, ThorPateLine wrote: > > Susan Jane (Brock) Pate > > > Susan Jane (Brock) Pate - SAVANNAH - Susan Jane (Brock) Pate passed away at > her home early Tuesday morning, May 11, 2010 after a six-month battle with > lung cancer. Susan was born and raised in the small town of Adrian, MI and > relocated to Savannah, GA in 1986 with her husband of forty-six years, > Kenneth Larry Pate and their two sons; Ken and Jeff. Susan worked at Candler > and Memorial hospitals as a physical therapy tech for a span of over twenty > years. Susan was a member of St. Peter the Apostle Catholic Church on > Wilmington Island, as well as a member of the Savannah Chapter Harley Owners > Group (HOG). Susan is preceded in death by her mother and father, Mrs. Alta > Brock and Mr. Ezra Brock. Her sister, Miss Marilyn Brock, and her brother, > Mr. Robert Brock. Susan is survived by her husband, Mr. Kenneth Larry Pate. > Her two sons, Kenneth Scott Pate and Jeffrey Todd Pate. A daughter-in-law, > Mrs. Jennifer Marie Pate and six grandchildren, Anthony, Taylor, > Sarah-Louise, Anna, Molly and Christian. Visitation will be held on > Thursday, May 13, 2010 from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. at the funeral home. A funeral > mass will be held on Friday, May 14, 2010 at 12 noon at St. Peter the > Apostle Catholic Church on Wilmington Island. In lieu of flowers, donations > may be made to Hospice Savannah, PO box 13190, Savannah, GA 31416 or to the > American Cancer Society , 6600 Abercorn St., Suite 206, Savannah, GA 31405. > Friends may sign the online register book at > www.stricklandandsonsfuneralhome.com Thomas C. Strickland& Sons Funeral > Homes West Chatham Chapel 901 W. Hwy 80 Pooler, GA 31322 912-748-2444 > Savannah Morning News May 12, 2010 Please sign our Obituary Guest Book at > savannahnow.com/obituaries . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jack the ripper is on there also. -------Original Message------- From: ThorPateLine Date: 5/25/2010 2:44:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate If I might enter my 2 cents' worth here..... No matter what you all decide about Henry Clay Pate being included in your project of famous or infamous Pates, as I see it (and this is merely my humble opinion, folks!) as long as you can Google the name *Henry Clay Pate* and come up with well over 40,000 hits of documented historical information and blogging about this man on the internet, that makes him pretty famous --- no matter what kind of *shady character* he may have been! OK, so I spoke a plug nickel's worth..... LOL Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate When AJ mentions "we" as the compilers of the list of Famous Pates, I was part of that we. If my memory serves me correctly, and more and more it does not these days, I was the one who suggested Henry Clay Pate. By consensus we agreed not to include him. I like Henry Clay Pate. I have researched him to a great extent. I have compiled multiple pages of information about him. I assisted in the preparation of a paper presented to the New England Civil War Roundtable on him. I also assisted the Kansas Historical Society in trying (unsuccessfully) to locate a living descendant of Henry Clay Pate to attend a ceremony unveiling a marker near the pre-civil war battle site at Black Jack near Pottawatomie Creek [http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/blackjac.html]. I have several postings on Henry Clay Pate in the archives of the Pate List Serve. Each February, at our annual Lee-Jackson Banquet, I light and then extinguish two candles to commemorate two Confederate soldiers who gave their lives defending their country against the arrogance and tyranny of their nation. One candle is for my great great great grandfather, Thomas Pate, who died of wounds received in the Wilderness and the other is for Henry Clay Pate. By the measure we used, Henry Clay Pate is not famous; nor is he infamous. He was a bright, articulate, passionate, and energetic young man. He was a skilled writer, newspaper editor, weapons designer and later a brave and dedicated cavalry commander. He was a cousin to Jinks Pate Lee. His older brother, William D Pate was a West Virginia State Senator, who with his father. Edmund Pate founded and operated the Coal River Navigation Co. in West Virginia. Henry Clay Pate's younger brother, Ortho K Pate was an ordained Episcopal priest. All three were Confederate officers. Joel On 5/25/2010 9:41 AM, AJ wrote: > When we were compiling the list of Famous Pate's, Henry Clay Pate was > discussed as a possible honoree. Though he undoubtedly displayed bravery > on occasion, we felt that his overall record was rather checkered and > undistinguished. His main claim to fame was leading a military unit to > capture John Brown. The humiliating result was losing to John Brown's > smaller ragtag "army" in two hours and having to surrender himself. Those > interested can learn more about him here: > http://kansasboguslegislature.org/mo/pate_h_c.html This appears to be an > article biased against him, but nevertheless contains enough factual > information to arrive at a conclusion. > > A. J. Pate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/blackjac.html -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If I might enter my 2 cents' worth here..... No matter what you all decide about Henry Clay Pate being included in your project of famous or infamous Pates, as I see it (and this is merely my humble opinion, folks!) as long as you can Google the name *Henry Clay Pate* and come up with well over 40,000 hits of documented historical information and blogging about this man on the internet, that makes him pretty famous --- no matter what kind of *shady character* he may have been! OK, so I spoke a plug nickel's worth..... LOL Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate When AJ mentions "we" as the compilers of the list of Famous Pates, I was part of that we. If my memory serves me correctly, and more and more it does not these days, I was the one who suggested Henry Clay Pate. By consensus we agreed not to include him. I like Henry Clay Pate. I have researched him to a great extent. I have compiled multiple pages of information about him. I assisted in the preparation of a paper presented to the New England Civil War Roundtable on him. I also assisted the Kansas Historical Society in trying (unsuccessfully) to locate a living descendant of Henry Clay Pate to attend a ceremony unveiling a marker near the pre-civil war battle site at Black Jack near Pottawatomie Creek [http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/blackjac.html]. I have several postings on Henry Clay Pate in the archives of the Pate List Serve. Each February, at our annual Lee-Jackson Banquet, I light and then extinguish two candles to commemorate two Confederate soldiers who gave their lives defending their country against the arrogance and tyranny of their nation. One candle is for my great great great grandfather, Thomas Pate, who died of wounds received in the Wilderness and the other is for Henry Clay Pate. By the measure we used, Henry Clay Pate is not famous; nor is he infamous. He was a bright, articulate, passionate, and energetic young man. He was a skilled writer, newspaper editor, weapons designer and later a brave and dedicated cavalry commander. He was a cousin to Jinks Pate Lee. His older brother, William D Pate was a West Virginia State Senator, who with his father. Edmund Pate founded and operated the Coal River Navigation Co. in West Virginia. Henry Clay Pate's younger brother, Ortho K Pate was an ordained Episcopal priest. All three were Confederate officers. Joel On 5/25/2010 9:41 AM, AJ wrote: > When we were compiling the list of Famous Pate's, Henry Clay Pate was > discussed as a possible honoree. Though he undoubtedly displayed bravery > on occasion, we felt that his overall record was rather checkered and > undistinguished. His main claim to fame was leading a military unit to > capture John Brown. The humiliating result was losing to John Brown's > smaller ragtag "army" in two hours and having to surrender himself. Those > interested can learn more about him here: > http://kansasboguslegislature.org/mo/pate_h_c.html This appears to be an > article biased against him, but nevertheless contains enough factual > information to arrive at a conclusion. > > A. J. Pate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/blackjac.html -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan Jane (Brock) Pate Susan Jane (Brock) Pate - SAVANNAH - Susan Jane (Brock) Pate passed away at her home early Tuesday morning, May 11, 2010 after a six-month battle with lung cancer. Susan was born and raised in the small town of Adrian, MI and relocated to Savannah, GA in 1986 with her husband of forty-six years, Kenneth Larry Pate and their two sons; Ken and Jeff. Susan worked at Candler and Memorial hospitals as a physical therapy tech for a span of over twenty years. Susan was a member of St. Peter the Apostle Catholic Church on Wilmington Island, as well as a member of the Savannah Chapter Harley Owners Group (HOG). Susan is preceded in death by her mother and father, Mrs. Alta Brock and Mr. Ezra Brock. Her sister, Miss Marilyn Brock, and her brother, Mr. Robert Brock. Susan is survived by her husband, Mr. Kenneth Larry Pate. Her two sons, Kenneth Scott Pate and Jeffrey Todd Pate. A daughter-in-law, Mrs. Jennifer Marie Pate and six grandchildren, Anthony, Taylor, Sarah-Louise, Anna, Molly and Christian. Visitation will be held on Thursday, May 13, 2010 from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. at the funeral home. A funeral mass will be held on Friday, May 14, 2010 at 12 noon at St. Peter the Apostle Catholic Church on Wilmington Island. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to Hospice Savannah, PO box 13190, Savannah, GA 31416 or to the American Cancer Society , 6600 Abercorn St., Suite 206, Savannah, GA 31405. Friends may sign the online register book at www.stricklandandsonsfuneralhome.com Thomas C. Strickland & Sons Funeral Homes West Chatham Chapel 901 W. Hwy 80 Pooler, GA 31322 912-748-2444 Savannah Morning News May 12, 2010 Please sign our Obituary Guest Book at savannahnow.com/obituaries .

Jinks Pate Lee posted on her RootsWeb/FreePages web site her file P63.4 in June of 1999. This is part of Jink's family line (Now her file P1) The parents of Allen Pate 1796-1853 seem to be Benjamin Allen Pate c 1770-1825 and Judith (nee) Pate c 1770- c 1805 - 1st cousins *P64.3Allen* *25 Jun 1999* *P64.3 DESCENDANT CHART* *1--Allen A PATE (Mar 1796-11 Nov 1853)* *sp Mary "Polly" ORAM (About 1797) md 7 Jan 1819* * 2--Melvina PATE (Nov 1820)* * sp Marlin YOUNG (About 1818) md 30 Jul 1839* * 2--Benjamin Allen PATE (16 Jan 1822-28 Jul 1892)* * sp Permelia V- ELSWICK-PICKETT (16 Apr 1822-27 Jul 1876) md 2 Nov 1843* * 3--William L PATE (27 Jul 1844-9 Aug 1904)* * sp Frances E M THAYER (May 1848) md 22 Dec 1866* * 3--Eunace "Nica" PATE (1847)* * 3--Mary Ann PATE (4 Feb 1850-1906)* * sp Thomas Nicklas JACKSON (About 1848) md 24 Sep 1872* * 3--Marshall 0 PATE (Jan 1854)* * sp Celia Anna (??)-PATE (Oct 1865)* * 3--Alice C PATE (1856)* * sp Joseph P LOYD (About 1855) md 1 Feb 1877* * 3--John Lowry PATE (3 Jun 1858-20 Mar 1912)* * sp Dovie Alice RAGLE (17 Nov 1874-25 Oct 1923) md 30 Oct 1892* * 3--Addy E PATE (Aug 1860)* * 3--Noah S PATE (Oct 1863-10 Jun 1904)* * sp Minnie DEARMIN (Oct 1867) md 19 Sep 1886* * 2-- John Oram PATE (13 Sep 1824)* * 2-- Minor PATE (26 Feb 1826-4 Jan 1897)* * sp Martha SHANKLIN (6 Apr 1821-19 Nov 1901) md 12 Nov 1846* * 3--John Allen PATE (12 Oct 1847-4 Feb 1913)* * sp Lillie S (??)-PATE (Jan 1862)* * 3--William Nero PATE (May 1850)* * 3--James Oram PATE (3 Sep 1852-18 Apr 1925)* * sp Sarah F (??)-PATE (About 1853) md About 1874* * sp Emma F (??)-PATE (Sep 1863)* * 3--Margaret J PATE (About 1853-19 Nov 1889)* * 3--Charlotte Cordelia PATE (6 Jun 1856-14 Feb 1900)* * sp Millard Fillmore SMILEY (7 Jul 1856-20 Jul 1932) md 10 Feb 1877* * 3--Minor Franklin PATE (28 Mar 1858-4 Jul 1933)* * sp Mary Hasseltine BAXTER (Mar 1865-16 Jun 1908) md 17 Jun 1890* * sp Lula D CLEMENS (1878-10 Mar 1931) md 10 Oct 1910* * 3--Mary E PATE (1863)* * sp Wiley ANDERSON (About 1859)* * 2--James M PATE (10 Jan 1828-1 Jun 1848)* * 2--Elizabeth PATE (1829)* * 2--Mary Ann PATE (9 Dec 1831)* * sp John B SPALDING (24 Sep 1826) md 11 Feb 1850* * 2--William W PATE (24 Jan 1833-1911)* * sp Eliza TOON (3 Jun 1834-20 Nov 1876) md 24 Dec 1854* * 3--Howard A PATE (Jan 1856-1923)* * 3--Laura Etta PATE (26 Feb 1860-26 Mar 1922)* * sp Price Davis FARMER (About 1858) md About 1886* * 3--William W "Willey" PATE Jr (Oct 1861)* * sp Mary E (??)-PATE (Sep 1871) md About 1891* * 3--Louis PATE (About 1863)* * sp Alice G (??)-BUTLER (About 1834)* * 2--Judith PATE (23 Jan 1835)* * 2--Richard V- PATE (31 Jan 1837) * * sp Martha RHINEY (Aug 1839) md 22 Apr 1862* * 3--Joseph W PATE (About 1864) * * sp Malissa A ADAMS (About 1868) md 2 Aug 1887* * 3--Harriet R PATE (About 1866) * * sp John B MC KEE (About 1865) md 29 Jan 1885* *This family was in 1820 & 1830 Breckinridge Co, KY; 1840 Lawrence Co, IN; 1850 & 1860 Martin Co, IN and 1880 Daviess Co, KY* * * * * JMP -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers

I've ordered two DAR application record copies. Both lady's names are not visible online. One common ancestor was John Tippett, my Great Grandfather, a descendant of both Rev. William Pate and Jacob Parkerson. The other goes back another generation to Hardy Tippett, my Great Great Grandfather, also a descendant of Rev. William Pate and Jacob Parkerson. In summary, my line runs from Robinson to Wilson to Tippett to Holt to Pate to Parkerson. I am assisting my daughter, niece, and cousins apply for DAR membership. I would be happy to share my research and efforts with any that are interested.

When AJ mentions "we" as the compilers of the list of Famous Pates, I was part of that we. If my memory serves me correctly, and more and more it does not these days, I was the one who suggested Henry Clay Pate. By consensus we agreed not to include him. I like Henry Clay Pate. I have researched him to a great extent. I have compiled multiple pages of information about him. I assisted in the preparation of a paper presented to the New England Civil War Roundtable on him. I also assisted the Kansas Historical Society in trying (unsuccessfully) to locate a living descendant of Henry Clay Pate to attend a ceremony unveiling a marker near the pre-civil war battle site at Black Jack near Pottawatomie Creek [http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/blackjac.html]. I have several postings on Henry Clay Pate in the archives of the Pate List Serve. Each February, at our annual Lee-Jackson Banquet, I light and then extinguish two candles to commemorate two Confederate soldiers who gave their lives defending their country against the arrogance and tyranny of their nation. One candle is for my great great great grandfather, Thomas Pate, who died of wounds received in the Wilderness and the other is for Henry Clay Pate. By the measure we used, Henry Clay Pate is not famous; nor is he infamous. He was a bright, articulate, passionate, and energetic young man. He was a skilled writer, newspaper editor, weapons designer and later a brave and dedicated cavalry commander. He was a cousin to Jinks Pate Lee. His older brother, William D Pate was a West Virginia State Senator, who with his father. Edmund Pate founded and operated the Coal River Navigation Co. in West Virginia. Henry Clay Pate's younger brother, Ortho K Pate was an ordained Episcopal priest. All three were Confederate officers. Joel On 5/25/2010 9:41 AM, AJ wrote: > When we were compiling the list of Famous Pate's, Henry Clay Pate was discussed as a possible honoree. Though he undoubtedly displayed bravery on occasion, we felt that his overall record was rather checkered and undistinguished. His main claim to fame was leading a military unit to capture John Brown. The humiliating result was losing to John Brown's smaller ragtag "army" in two hours and having to surrender himself. Those interested can learn more about him here: http://kansasboguslegislature.org/mo/pate_h_c.html This appears to be an article biased against him, but nevertheless contains enough factual information to arrive at a conclusion. > > A. J. Pate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/blackjac.html -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers

The following is excerpted from the website of Linda Anderson Knapp <http://lindaknapp0.tripod.com/ourfamilytreestwo/id2.html> http://lindaknapp0.tripod.com/ourfamilytreestwo/id2.html "Allen Pate was born on 21 Mar 1796 in Bedford Co., Virginia, died on 10 Dec 1852 in Brown Twp., Martin Co., Indiana and was buried in Williams Cem., Brown Tp., Martin Co., Indiana." "Allen married Mary Oram, daughter of Samuel Oram and Mary, on 8 Jan 1819 in Breckinridge Co., KY. Mary was born about 1800 in Clark Co., Kentucky, died about 1882 in Martin Co., Indiana and was buried in Williams Cem., Brown Tp., Martin Co., Indiana. Their children were: i. Melvina Pate (born on 1 Aug 1819 in Breckinridge Co., Kentucky - died on 27 Aug 1868 in Indiana) 14 ii. Benjamin Allen Pate (born on 28 Jul 1822 in Breckinridge Co., Kentucky - died on 9 Feb 1892 in Indiana) iii. John Oram Pate (born on 23 Sep 1823 in Breckinridge Co., Kentucky - died on 26 Jun 1847 in Lawrence Co., Indiana) iv. Minor Pate (born on 26 Feb 1826 in Breckinridge Co., Kentucky - died on 4 Jan 1897 in Green Co., Indiana) v. James M. Pate (born on 10 Jan 1828 in Breckinridge Co., Kentucky - died on 1 Jun 1848 in Lawrence Co., Indiana) vi. Elizabeth Pate (born in 1829 in Breckinridge Co., Kentucky -) vii. Mary Ann Pate (born on 9 Dec 1831 in Kentucky Or Indiana - died on 24 Mar 1916 in Indiana) viii. William W. Pate (born on 24 Jan 1833 in Kentucky Or Indiana -) ix. Judith P. Pate (born on 23 Jan 1835 in Lawrence Co., Indiana - died before 1880 in Indiana) x. Richard M. Pate (born on 31 Jan 1837 in Lawrence Co., Indiana - died after 1880)" Does anyone know who the parents of this Allen Pate (1796-1852) were? I've searched Pate-L and can't find a quick answer! :) I'm very interested in this Pate family, as they are nearby some BLAIR families in this part of Indiana, which is where my Gg-grandmother Lucinda Blair Pate lived in during the infant years of her life; and, again there seems to be that Breckinridge Co. KY connection, too. Thanks in advance for any replies, April

Is 1SG Lloyd Pate on the list. He deserves it.   ________________________________ From: ThorPateLine <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 2:09:57 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate Right, Gerald... As is my 2nd cousin, Randolph McCall Pate. As is Aldolph Hitler. As is JFK As is Barack Hussein Obama. And without BAD who would you have the GOOD to compare with? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Pait" <[email protected]> To: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate Jack the ripper is on there also. -------Original Message------- From: ThorPateLine Date: 5/25/2010 2:44:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate If I might enter my 2 cents' worth here..... No matter what you all decide about Henry Clay Pate being included in your project of famous or infamous Pates, as I see it (and this is merely my humble opinion, folks!)  as long as you can Google the name *Henry Clay Pate* and come up with well over 40,000 hits of documented historical information and blogging about this man on the internet, that makes him pretty famous --- no matter what kind of *shady character* he may have been! OK, so I spoke a plug nickel's worth.....  LOL Laynie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Pate" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [PATE] Henry Clay Pate When AJ mentions "we" as the compilers of the list of Famous Pates, I was part of that we.  If my memory serves me correctly, and more and more it does not these days, I was the one who suggested Henry Clay Pate.  By consensus we agreed not to include him.  I like Henry Clay Pate.  I have researched him to a great extent.  I have compiled multiple pages of information about him.  I assisted in the preparation of a paper presented to the New England Civil War Roundtable on him.  I also assisted the Kansas Historical Society in trying (unsuccessfully) to locate a living descendant of Henry Clay Pate to attend a ceremony unveiling a marker near the pre-civil war battle site at Black Jack near Pottawatomie Creek [http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/blackjac.html].  I have several postings on Henry Clay Pate in the archives of the Pate List Serve.  Each February, at our annual Lee-Jackson Banquet, I light and then extinguish two candles to commemorate two Confederate soldiers who gave their lives defending their country against the arrogance and tyranny of their nation.  One candle is for my great great great grandfather, Thomas Pate, who died of wounds received in the Wilderness and the other is for Henry Clay Pate.  By the measure we used, Henry Clay Pate is not famous; nor is he infamous.  He was a bright, articulate, passionate, and energetic young man.  He was a skilled writer, newspaper editor, weapons designer and later a brave and dedicated cavalry commander.  He was a cousin to Jinks Pate Lee.  His older brother, William D Pate was a West Virginia State Senator, who with his father. Edmund Pate founded and operated the Coal River Navigation Co. in West Virginia.  Henry Clay Pate's younger brother, Ortho K Pate was an ordained Episcopal priest.  All three were Confederate officers. Joel On 5/25/2010 9:41 AM, AJ wrote: > When we were compiling the list of Famous Pate's, Henry Clay Pate was > discussed as a possible honoree.  Though he undoubtedly displayed bravery > on occasion, we felt that his overall record was rather checkered and > undistinguished.  His main claim to fame was leading a military unit to > capture John Brown.  The humiliating result was losing to John Brown's > smaller ragtag "army" in two hours and having to surrender himself.  Those > interested can learn more about him here: > http://kansasboguslegislature.org/mo/pate_h_c.html  This appears to be an > article biased against him, but nevertheless contains enough factual > information to arrive at a conclusion. > > A. J. Pate > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > http://skyways.lib.ks.us/history/blackjac.html -- PATE DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pate-dna-project Sharing Our Past, Our Present and Our Future PATE LIST SERVE [email protected] A free E-Mail Forum for PATE Researchers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message